Paris in jail: It's about damn time.
Cyrian space
07-05-2007, 22:22
Paris hilton is in jail. She violated her probation after driving drunk. I say it's about damn time we got this menace off of our streets.
http://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=2caefe97-1dff-48ed-9fb2-6a9fd9161d11&k=57184
Bet she's got a private cell.
Finally, the streets are safe to walk at night.
IL Ruffino
07-05-2007, 22:26
I bet your main reason for celebrating her punishment is because she's a "rich snob" right?
When you have a reason better than "she has money", I stop rolling my eyes.
Ashmoria
07-05-2007, 22:26
she not in jail yet.
the poor thing was almost in tears over the unfairness of it all. how was she to know that having her license revoked meant she wasnt allowed to drive?
she is appealling.
Philosopy
07-05-2007, 22:27
The girl thought she was above the law, and could buy whatever she wanted. It's about time she was shown that she must live by the same rules as everyone else.
Xenophobialand
07-05-2007, 22:27
I was under the impression she has another month before serving, during which time her lawyer will appeal.
And why exactly does Paris deserve jail time again?
Call to power
07-05-2007, 22:28
oh great another prison movie :p
IL Ruffino
07-05-2007, 22:29
And why exactly does Paris deserve jail time again?
Because she has money, of course.
Infinite Revolution
07-05-2007, 22:29
it's about time a celebratory was made properly accountable for their actions.
Cannot think of a name
07-05-2007, 22:30
I bet your main reason for celebrating her punishment is because she's a "rich snob" right?
When you have a reason better than "she has money", I stop rolling my eyes.
Because she is a horrible human being with an abused sense of entitlement and in sore need of a reminder that she is in fact a member of a society and not above it?
The girl thought she was above the law, and could buy whatever she wanted. It's about time she was shown that she must live by the same rules as everyone else.
This will only help her career I bet. :headbang:
Philosopy
07-05-2007, 22:31
This will only help her career I bet. :headbang:
She has a career?
I was under the impression she has another month before serving, during which time her lawyer will appeal.
And why exactly does Paris deserve jail time again?
Drunk driving, violating probation. You know the sort of thing any regular person would be locked up for.
IL Ruffino
07-05-2007, 22:33
Because she is a horrible human being with an abused sense of entitlement and in sore need of a reminder that she is in fact a member of a society and not above it?
"Rich snob"
She has a career?
She is an author. :p
The_pantless_hero
07-05-2007, 22:35
She has a career?
Celebrityism.
She has a career?
Starring in awful movies, yup. And simply getting to have a camera pointed at her. I guess career may be too strong a word but I'm sure that going to jail will only help keep her famous, not hurt her in the slightest. She will be able to continue the stereotype of dumb slutty blonde without the slightest hiccup.
And why exactly does Paris deserve jail time
again?
Because she broke the law and then was released on certain conditions, which she violated. She had her chance to avoid jail, but she blew it.
She's only going for what, 45 days? It's not like it's a life sentence and in theory, it could teach her that the world does not revolve around her, which would be nice.
Morganatron
07-05-2007, 22:38
Not to mention her pop album, perfume, handbag line, tv series...etc.
Not to mention her pop album, perfume, handbag line, tv series...etc.
Let's not forget one of her more popular films...
:D
IL Ruffino
07-05-2007, 22:40
Not to mention her pop album, perfume, handbag line, tv series...etc.
I quite like her cologne for men.
Cannot think of a name
07-05-2007, 22:43
"Rich snob"
Combating perceived reductivness by being reductive?
Turn it around, why doesn't she deserve jail for violating parole and drunk driving? Why would anyone in that position merit your defense?
HGTV Watchers
07-05-2007, 22:43
About damn time.
and this is why.
I don't follow celebrity gossip. I think its damn pointless. However when I was watching South Park and they were totally making fun of her I decided to do my own research into Paris Hilton. SHE IS A IDIOT!
I dont hate her because she is rich. I hate her because she has a overwhelming sense of entitlement, no brains, and she is a whore.
Besides she got her license taken away and she decided to drive anyways. Thats asking to be taken to prison. I hope she doesn't get a private cell.
Xenophobialand
07-05-2007, 22:43
Because she broke the law and then was released on certain conditions, which she violated. She had her chance to avoid jail, but she blew it.
She's only going for what, 45 days? It's not like it's a life sentence and in theory, it could teach her that the world does not revolve around her, which would be nice.
I should have been clearer. I know that she's been put in jail, I know why she's been put in jail, and I personally approve that she's been put in jail.
What I was really asking was why the glee in putting her in jail? Why the "about damn time"?
IL Ruffino
07-05-2007, 22:45
Combating perceived reductivness by being reductive?
Turn it around, why doesn't she deserve jail for violating parole and drunk driving? Why would anyone in that position merit your defense?
She broke the law, that's the correct answer. Not "She thinks she's better than everyone else."
Infinite Revolution
07-05-2007, 22:55
"Rich snob"
her relative wealth is unimportant. it is her attitude that is objectionable.
Cannot think of a name
07-05-2007, 22:58
She broke the law, that's the correct answer. Not "She thinks she's better than everyone else."
If she were dead poor I would still be glad someone of her personality and attitude was about to receive a wake up call (while I don't neccisarily wish jail on anyone, even with some one who is acidic as she is), the only difference is that I wouldn't actually know about her.
She shallows the waters and is a negative influence on society as a whole as she enforces the notion of hierarchy of the rich and creates an aspiration figure of disregard and conspicuous consumption. I don't have a problem per se with wealth, I do as seeing wealth as privilege. She embodies the worst of modern priority and worship of excess.
If a normal person is arrested for drunk driving and violating parole, that was a stupid thing to do and an unfortunate but reasonable result. If someone who believes them self above the standards of the society around them by right of birth and enforces the notion that the rich are better is in the same situation I will rejoice that at least here, we do live in a level society. To see her let off would validate her sense of entitlement and affirm that we do live in separate and unequal societies. While that is true, it is good to see that they can intersect. So I celebrate what I see as a victory, one that I would prefer not be necessary.
The Nazz
08-05-2007, 00:01
she not in jail yet.
the poor thing was almost in tears over the unfairness of it all. how was she to know that having her license revoked meant she wasnt allowed to drive?
she is appealling.
I will be seriously surprised if she ever does a day in an actual cell. People with that kind of money don't generally spend time in jail for this kind of stuff.
She has a career?
Prostitution.
Jeruselem
08-05-2007, 00:09
Bubba the Ape and Paris Hilton in the TV series "The Prison Life"! :p
The_pantless_hero
08-05-2007, 00:13
I don't follow celebrity gossip. I think its damn pointless. However when I was watching South Park and they were totally making fun of her I decided to do my own research into Paris Hilton. SHE IS A IDIOT!
Says the guy who failed grammar class...
Pepe Dominguez
08-05-2007, 00:14
her relative wealth is unimportant. it is her attitude that is objectionable.
Exactly. I've met plenty of relatively rich people who have no problem abiding by the law.. that's not the issue. It might sweeten the plum to some spectators that a rich person might spend time in actual prison (sort of), but she sure as hell wasn't targeted because she was rich. Martha Stewart, maybe.. but not Paris Hilton.. :p
Gauthier
08-05-2007, 00:19
Why not convert Paris Hilton into a penetentiary?
God knows she's had plenty of men inside her walls. :D
Cyrian space
08-05-2007, 00:26
I bet your main reason for celebrating her punishment is because she's a "rich snob" right?
When you have a reason better than "she has money", I stop rolling my eyes.
It's more than her having money. It's her being bathed with undeserved attention, getting on TV despite a lack of talent, and generally being a bratty little whore. Granted, the prime cause of all of these is money, but if they were symptoms of something else, instead, I would still loathe her for them.
Sumamba Buwhan
08-05-2007, 00:40
I was glad to hear that she was getting some jail time for her actions. Admittedly I thought that because she was rich, that she was going to get off with a slap on the wrist. I heard her mother chuckled when the judge said she was goign to get jailtime and asked for the judges autograph. HAH!
Gauthier
08-05-2007, 00:43
It's more than her having money. It's her being bathed with undeserved attention, getting on TV despite a lack of talent, and generally being a bratty little whore. Granted, the prime cause of all of these is money, but if they were symptoms of something else, instead, I would still loathe her for them.
The popularity of Paris Hilton and "Reality Shows" in general are a reflection of how shallow exhibitionism has become high culture in the American public. Very sad.
New Stalinberg
08-05-2007, 01:05
We can only hope someone will kill her while she's in jail.
Johnny B Goode
08-05-2007, 01:10
Paris hilton is in jail. She violated her probation after driving drunk. I say it's about damn time we got this menace off of our streets.
http://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=2caefe97-1dff-48ed-9fb2-6a9fd9161d11&k=57184
Yes!
Aurania-Shifre
08-05-2007, 01:24
yeah 'cuz y'know if i violated my drunk driving probation it be "Finally this damn menace is off our streets!" :rolleyes:
everone's making a big deal just because she a Celeb otherwise life goes on
Cannot think of a name
08-05-2007, 01:34
yeah 'cuz y'know if i violated my drunk driving probation it be "Finally this damn menace is off our streets!" :rolleyes:
everone's making a big deal just because she a Celeb otherwise life goes on
An acidic celebrity. You can be rich, you can be a celebrity, or you can be poor. Won't matter much, except again in the last instance I wouldn't know-but if I knew you and knew you to be an acidic pain in the ass and then knew that you were going to do a short time in jail I might have a similar reaction.
Gauthier
08-05-2007, 01:38
An acidic celebrity. You can be rich, you can be a celebrity, or you can be poor. Won't matter much, except again in the last instance I wouldn't know-but if I knew you and knew you to be an acidic pain in the ass and then knew that you were going to do a short time in jail I might have a similar reaction.
Like Sanjaya. Except she's been around a lot longer and nobody can vote her off the cameras.
Free Soviets
08-05-2007, 01:43
I will be seriously surprised if she ever does a day in an actual cell. People with that kind of money don't generally spend time in jail for this kind of stuff.
shit, they barely do time if they fucking shoot somebody. which, for those of you playing along at home, is why some are all like "hooray!" at the news. fucking rich privileged assholes get away with shit all the time. the more frequently they have to pay at least as badly as guys like me for their wrongs, the better.
Radical Centrists
08-05-2007, 01:44
It's not so much that I'm happy she's (theoretically) going to jail, it's more that I'd be really disappointed if she didn't. Drunk driving and a subsequent parole violation would land anyone in prison - as it should. If she were an exception to that, I would resent her getting special consideration because of her wealth or reputation. However, she is apparently getting exactly what the law dictates she should and thus, all is well.
Her personality and her money has nothing to do with it. I know plenty of poor people more fucked in the head then she appears to be... It isn't consideration for jail time.
Why not convert Paris Hilton into a penetentiary?
God knows she's had plenty of men inside her walls. :D
OH MY GOD! :eek:
Stop the presses! A woman... Having SEX!?! The whore! Obviously she must be raped and stoned for this horrible offense!
How dare she!
:headbang:
Gauthier
08-05-2007, 01:46
shit, they barely do time if they fucking shoot somebody. which, for those of you playing along at home, is why some are all like "hooray!" at the news. fucking rich privileged assholes get away with shit all the time. the more frequently they have to pay at least as badly as guys like me for their wrongs, the better.
Actually, the judge clamped down on her and so Paris is going to have to spend time in an actual County. She won't even be allowed to pay for a luxury holding cell like some people are allowed to do in those parts.
Thewayoftheclosedfist
08-05-2007, 01:51
"Rich snob"
She is an author. :p
:eek: , WHAT YOU SAY?!!?
she can read???!!!
yeah 'cuz y'know if i violated my drunk driving probation it be "Finally this damn menace is off our streets!" :rolleyes:
everone's making a big deal just because she a Celeb otherwise life goes on
And if she wasn't sentenced? Just got another ticket for her to throw money at, I'd be real suprised if there weren't 1,000 'i told you so' threads about how celeb's are above the law. It's sad that she seems to have turned into some kind of matyr dealy. But really she fucked up and shes getting punished for it, welcome to the real world.
Widfarend
08-05-2007, 01:51
:eek: , WHAT YOU SAY?!!?
she can read???!!!
Maybe.
She can write.
Why not convert Paris Hilton into a penetentiary?
God knows she's had plenty of men inside her walls. :D
You win the thread, but not the spelling contest.
I wish it was for longer than 45 days. 10 years for Paris Hilton! :sniper:
Maybe.
She can write.
"That's not writing. That's typing"
-Some guy about some classic of American literature about roads.
Cannot think of a name
08-05-2007, 02:24
"That's not writing. That's typing"
-Some guy about some classic of American literature about roads.
I'm going to pretend I got that reference and didn't look it up because it is something I really should have known and list it as one of the reasons I kinda don't like that 'some guy.'
Hynation
08-05-2007, 02:28
Finally, the streets are safe to walk at night.
No...remember Lindsay is still out there...
Gauthier
08-05-2007, 02:46
You win the thread, but not the spelling contest.
I dunno, with Paris, PENE-tentiary sounds appropriate.
:D
I dunno, with Paris, PENE-tentiary sounds appropriate.
:D
Boooooo....
:p
The_pantless_hero
08-05-2007, 03:30
No...remember Lindsay is still out there...
And Britney.
Soviet Haaregrad
08-05-2007, 11:19
I hope some fat, bearded, buzz-cut dyke makes Paris her bitch. And I hope someone whoops her ass in the shower with a bar of soap in a sock. And mostly, I hope the camera crew video taping her new reality show 'Paris Goes To Jail' get their cameras stolen and smashed. Maybe a random shivving would add some excitement in episode 3.
Barringtonia
08-05-2007, 11:29
OH MY GOD! :eek:
Stop the presses! A woman... Having SEX!?! The whore! Obviously she must be raped and stoned for this horrible offense!
How dare she!
:headbang:
Thank you - some people need to get a grip
I hope some fat, bearded, buzz-cut dyke makes Paris her bitch. And I hope someone whoops her ass in the shower with a bar of soap in a sock. And mostly, I hope the camera crew video taping her new reality show 'Paris Goes To Jail' get their cameras stolen and smashed. Maybe a random shivving would add some excitement in episode 3.
Especially you.
I haven't tried yet, but I don't think I could bring myself to care about Paris HIlton going to jail anymore than I could care about that guys I passed in the street this morning going to jail.
Proggresica
08-05-2007, 12:31
she not in jail yet.
the poor thing was almost in tears over the unfairness of it all. how was she to know that having her license revoked meant she wasnt allowed to drive?
I'm guessing you're being sarcastic, but in case you're not: she signed a letter stating that she was aware of this.
she is appealling.
Not to me.
I bet your main reason for celebrating her punishment is because she's a "rich snob" right?
When you have a reason better than "she has money", I stop rolling my eyes.
Although I find her morally reprehensible and think she's a twat these are not my reasons for enjoying her going to jail. She committed a crime, and one that took the lives of two of my friends in the span of two days. She then violated the conditions of her punishment for that crime and deserves to go to jail just as Jow Blowhard would. Add that to my personal opinion that she's helping to perpetuate the schema in our society that produces an "army of skanks" who believe they are above the law and lack social responsibility. The fact that she's a spoiled bitch has nothing to do with why she should go to jail. It does have to do with the concept that I'd like to see her hate F'd by a train of "pipe hitting niggas" to quote Pulp Fiction. Although she'd probably enjoy that very much.
I was under the impression she has another month before serving, during which time her lawyer will appeal.
And why exactly does Paris deserve jail time again?
she violated her probation for a DWI. Last time I checked DWI was a crime, and the criminal justice systems frowns on your saying "fuck you and your punishment." Besides that she's just a piece of common, white trash with money.
We can only hope someone will kill her while she's in jail.
now that's uncalled for.
Ulrichland
08-05-2007, 13:32
Sado-lesbian Prison Rape Time!
What I was really asking was why the glee in putting her in jail? Why the "about damn time"?
Other than being an irritating, spoiled rich bitch? Spewing out awful movies and an ear bleeding record? Thinking her money and fame means she can do whatever she wants without fear of consequence? You mean other than this?
IL Ruffino
08-05-2007, 14:35
Other than being an irritating, spoiled rich bitch? Spewing out awful movies and an ear bleeding record? Thinking her money and fame means she can do whatever she wants without fear of consequence? You mean other than this?
Yeah.
Being rich isn't a crime. Being a bad singer isn't a crime. Thinking you're above the law isn't a crime. Breaking the law is.
All the anti-elitist bullshit in this thread.. honestly. :rolleyes:
Siempreciego
08-05-2007, 15:24
oh great another prison movie :p
On the next season of "The Real Life" Paris does jail.
damnit the jokes been made already....
Anyone think she'll say something stupid to one of the guards and get extra time or thrown into solitary.
Bosco stix
08-05-2007, 15:34
Yeah.
Being rich isn't a crime. Being a bad singer isn't a crime. Thinking you're above the law isn't a crime. Breaking the law is.
All the anti-elitist bullshit in this thread.. honestly. :rolleyes:
Which is why she is going to jail, ruffmeister.
IL Ruffino
08-05-2007, 15:35
Which is why she is going to jail, ruffmeister.
But they don't care about that. They're just glad some annoying little twit is going to jail.
The_pantless_hero
08-05-2007, 15:36
Yeah.
Being rich isn't a crime. Being a bad singer isn't a crime. Thinking you're above the law isn't a crime. Breaking the law is.
All the anti-elitist bullshit in this thread.. honestly. :rolleyes:
If only being an anti-elitist elitist was an offense punishable by jail time...
Bosco stix
08-05-2007, 15:37
Why not convert Paris Hilton into a penetentiary?
God knows she's had plenty of men inside her walls. :D
I think you have not only won the thread, but also my heart :D
Fartsniffage
08-05-2007, 15:37
But they don't care about that. They're just glad some annoying little twit is going to jail.
What is wrong with being glad that an annoying twit is going to jail for a bit?
IL Ruffino
08-05-2007, 15:39
What is wrong with being glad that an annoying twit is going to jail for a bit?
Because you're ignoring the crime.
Fartsniffage
08-05-2007, 15:44
Because you're ignoring the crime.
Maybe I'm missing something here, surely ignoring the crime would involve not wanting her to go to jail?
Bosco stix
08-05-2007, 15:44
But they don't care about that. They're just glad some annoying little twit is going to jail.
To be honest, she deserves to be stoned to death, like all those other rich twats out there that haven't done anything to get their fortunes.
To be honest, she deserves to be stoned to death, like all those other rich twats out there that haven't done anything to get their fortunes.
Since when has not doing anything with your fortune been a capital offence?
Yeah.
Being rich isn't a crime. Being a bad singer isn't a crime. Thinking you're above the law isn't a crime. Breaking the law is.
All the anti-elitist bullshit in this thread.. honestly. :rolleyes:
Yeah, it is so bad to get annoyed at people who think their money means they can do what they want and not worry about consequences. I mean why should anyone be upset that you get a slap on the wrist if you are privledged. But I guess that is one of the perks and we shouldn't see anything wrong with this. And there certainly isn't anything wrong with feeling satisfaction that one of these "elite" actually gets punishment and feeling that same satisfaction because the person in particular is a mind numbing twit.
Honestly. :rolleyes:
Intangelon
08-05-2007, 15:50
I bet your main reason for celebrating her punishment is because she's a "rich snob" right?
When you have a reason better than "she has money", I stop rolling my eyes.
You drink, you drive, you do time. Especially if you do it repeatedly. Frankly, I'm sick to the teeth of the wealthy being able to buy their way out of trouble for which people with actual jobs would do time. Being so chronically stupid as to be unaware of the consequences of her actions at her age is reprehensible. Hopefully, jail time will wake her up.
I've got zero problem with her being an heiress, or indeed anyone doing with their money and fame as they wish. Even advocating promiscuity and unenlightened consumption is her absolute right as a US citizen. But we are a nation of laws, and they SHOULD apply to everyone with equal weight, barring extreme extenuating circumstances.
Troglobites
08-05-2007, 15:53
When reading this I couldn't help but think about the talk when that kennedy crashed his plane. People where calling the Kennedys American Royalty!
DIDN'T WE FIGHT A DAMN WAR BECAUSE OF THIS! and by bashing her on a thread you're contributing to the problem. Y'know what they say: Any publicity is good publicity. Just ignore them until the insashable hunger for exesses causes them to consume themselves like an ouroborus.
IL Ruffino
08-05-2007, 15:54
Maybe I'm missing something here, surely ignoring the crime would involve not wanting her to go to jail?
No, I meant you're ignoring the crime, and celebrating her punishment because you don't like her.
I love it when someone hates another person because they're a blonde twit, and not because they're a drunk driver.
Intangelon
08-05-2007, 15:54
About damn time.
and this is why.
I don't follow celebrity gossip. I think its damn pointless. However when I was watching South Park and they were totally making fun of her I decided to do my own research into Paris Hilton. SHE IS A IDIOT!
I dont hate her because she is rich. I hate her because she has a overwhelming sense of entitlement, no brains, and she is a whore.
Besides she got her license taken away and she decided to drive anyways. Thats asking to be taken to prison. I hope she doesn't get a private cell.
Oh, please, PLEASE proofread a statement like that before posting it. It doesn't invalidate your post, but man, it makes me choke on my coffee when I read it. :D
When reading this I couldn't help but think about the talk when that kennedy crashed his plane. People where calling the Kennedys American Royalty!
DIDN'T WE FIGHT A DAMN WAR BECAUSE OF THIS! and by bashing her on a thread you're contributing to the problem. Y'know what they say: Any publicity is good publicity. Just ignore them until the insashable hunger for exesses causes them to consume themselves like an ouroborus.
Buh? :confused:
No, I meant you're ignoring the crime, and celebrating her punishment because you don't like her.
I love it when someone hates another person because they're a blonde twit, and not because they're a drunk driver.
The drunk part is an additional reason to despise her. The rest is simply to feel particular happiness at the conviction of this particular drunk driver.
Carnivorous Lickers
08-05-2007, 15:59
I will be seriously surprised if she ever does a day in an actual cell. People with that kind of money don't generally spend time in jail for this kind of stuff.
The judge will sentence her to spend a week in a Best Western.
That will be her equivalent of you or I doing a year in Rahway.
Bosco stix
08-05-2007, 16:00
Since when has not doing anything with your fortune been a capital offence?
I was referring to her inheritance, and how she has not worked to earn it. I mean, she has done her own thing with modeling, acting, and selling sex tapes, but what has she done to earn her multi-billion dollar fortune? She was born into it. How is that fair at all?
My mum has to work 2 jobs in order to provide for my sister and myself. Shouldn't people like her be given an easy time in life? Hell, if she were to be caught driving without a license, she'd be jailed, and then probably fired from her job. Paris on the hand, is going away for a few day, more than likely won't see a cell, and will be let go to do her same shit over again. She automatically assumes that her money has put her above the law. All rich people are the same way.:gundge:
There is my noobish gun smiley
Fartsniffage
08-05-2007, 16:01
No, I meant you're ignoring the crime, and celebrating her punishment because you don't like her.
I love it when someone hates another person because they're a blonde twit, and not because they're a drunk driver.
I don't know about you ruffy but I can manage to hold more than one thought in my head at a given time and see no problem with being glad that at least one vacuous air head is off the TV for a little while still feeling satisfied that a criminal is getting their just desserts.
Bosco stix
08-05-2007, 16:02
Buh? :confused:
I agree.
Troglobites
08-05-2007, 16:06
Buh? :confused:
Let me clarifiy, The revolutionary war. We fought so we would be free from tyranny (AKA royalty). But these celebraties a royalty among the knuckle-draging sub-monkeys (AKA The american lowest commom denominator)
I was referring to her inheritance, and how she has not worked to earn it. I mean, she has done her own thing with modeling, acting, and selling sex tapes, but what has she done to earn her multi-billion dollar fortune? She was born into it. How is that fair at all?
My mum has to work 2 jobs in order to provide for my sister and myself. Shouldn't people like her be given an easy time in life? Hell, if she were to be caught driving without a license, she'd be jailed, and then probably fired from her job. Paris on the hand, is going away for a few day, more than likely won't see a cell, and will be let go to do her same shit over again. She automatically assumes that her money has put her above the law. All rich people are the same way.:gundge:
There is my noobish gun smiley
So she deserves to die because her father is a success?
How is that fair at all?
Let me clarifiy, The revolutionary war. We fought so we would be free from tyranny (AKA royalty). But these celebraties a royalty among the knuckle-draging sub-monkeys (AKA The american lowest commom denominator)
But celebrities have no real power at all. It's not as if they can make royal decrees and reasonably expect the country to obey them.
Carnivorous Lickers
08-05-2007, 16:11
I'm not terribly comfortable sharing the roads with Paris Hilton driving when she is sober.
Bosco stix
08-05-2007, 16:14
So she deserves to die because her father is a success?
How is that fair at all?
But celebrities have no real power at all. It's not as if they can make royal decrees and reasonably expect the country to obey them.
No, she deserves to perish because she is worthless. She has done nothing to further human kind. IN fact, she has hindered it.
No, she deserves to perish because she is worthless. She has done nothing to further human kind. IN fact, she has hindered it.
So the right to live is contingent on furthering humanity? Those who don't are simply left to die? And who decides what counts as furthering?
Troglobites
08-05-2007, 16:16
But celebrities have no real power at all. It's not as if they can make royal decrees and reasonably expect the country to obey them.
But in America the power goes to the people. the people are being manipulated by celebrites. So, by the transitve property, Yes, they hold more power than you're giving them credit for.
Carnivorous Lickers
08-05-2007, 16:16
I was referring to her inheritance, and how she has not worked to earn it. I mean, she has done her own thing with modeling, acting, and selling sex tapes, but what has she done to earn her multi-billion dollar fortune? She was born into it. How is that fair at all?
My mum has to work 2 jobs in order to provide for my sister and myself. Shouldn't people like her be given an easy time in life? Hell, if she were to be caught driving without a license, she'd be jailed, and then probably fired from her job. Paris on the hand, is going away for a few day, more than likely won't see a cell, and will be let go to do her same shit over again. She automatically assumes that her money has put her above the law. All rich people are the same way.:gundge:
There is my noobish gun smiley
There is no expectation anywhere of anyone having to "earn" and inheritance.
The frustrating part of it is that you look at Paris Hilton and its your opinion she doesnt deserve it, based on her poor behavior and demonstrated lack of good judgements.
But her father could give his fortune to anyone he wants.
There are dirt poor murderers and rapists that actually harm people that get very light sentences too.
But in America the power goes to the people. the people are being manipulated by celebrites. So, by the transitve property, Yes, they hold more power than you're giving them credit for.
Celebrities are manipulating America as a whole?
How?
Remote Observer
08-05-2007, 16:18
Hopefully, she ends up shaving her head like Britney, so that her collar matches her cuffs...
Bosco stix
08-05-2007, 16:19
So the right to live is contingent on furthering humanity? Those who don't are simply left to die? And who decides what counts as furthering?
I can't believe you, of all people, are defending her.
I can't believe you, of all people, are defending her.
I'm not defending her(and why me of all people?), she broke the law, and she should go to jail. I'm questioning your evident desire to have her suffer far more than her crime warrants.
Celebrities are manipulating America as a whole?
How?
I would think that having a stranglehold on our youth and being able to lead them around like sheep would be an indication of manipulating America, at least in part.
Carnivorous Lickers
08-05-2007, 16:20
No, she deserves to perish because she is worthless. She has done nothing to further human kind. IN fact, she has hindered it.
she may have supported one charity and done more to help people in need writing one check than you and everyone you know will ever do combined.
who is to judge what she has done to "further human kind" ?
Fartsniffage
08-05-2007, 16:20
I can't believe you, of all people, are defending her.
The is a difference between defending someones' behaviour and defending their right not to be stoned to death by strangers from the interwebs.
Carnivorous Lickers
08-05-2007, 16:21
Hopefully, she ends up shaving her head like Britney, so that her collar matches her cuffs...
*L*
Wouldnt it be the curtains matching the carpets?
I would think that having a stranglehold on our youth and being able to lead them around like sheep would be an indication of manipulating America, at least in part.
What's all this then? Stranglehold?
Troglobites
08-05-2007, 16:22
Celebrities are manipulating America as a whole?
How?
They can bring a point to the table and argue for or against it, They have no real loss if it back fires. So, the can make the masses believe in it, The very masses that give them their lucrative lifestyle. But, they, the masses, can't see its only them that have anything to lose.
Remote Observer
08-05-2007, 16:23
*L*
Wouldnt it be the curtains matching the carpets?
Same thing. I believe that Bond said the line about collar matching the cuffs...
What's all this then? Stranglehold?
Clearly you can't see how teenagers act, following their idols every move and copying off them, deciding that they know best how they should act. I don't see how this needs explanation, it seems pretty obvious to me.
Bosco stix
08-05-2007, 16:26
The is a difference between defending someones' behaviour and defending their right not to be stoned to death by strangers from the interwebs.
Okay, im not actually advocating her death. Jesus Christ Almighty! You people on here are so anal about things. A fellow says "oh she deserves to die" and you take it to mean it literally. About as smart as me saying "Im going to kill you!" and you literally taking it to mean that, even though it is a figure of speech.
Troglobites
08-05-2007, 16:26
Clearly you can't see how teenagers act, following their idols every move and copying off them, deciding that they know best how they should act. I don't see how this needs explanation, it seems pretty obvious to me.
Thanks, Couldn't have stated it better myself.
They can bring a point to the table and argue for or against it,
As can anyone.
They have no real loss if it back fires.
You think that a celebrity could, say, advocate slavery, and come out the other side of the controversy unscathed?
So, the can make the masses believe in it, The very masses that give them their lucrative lifestyle. But, they, the masses, can't see its only them that have anything to lose.
The masses effectively control whether celebrities can make a living or get any airtime, and the masses are the only ones who have something to lose?
Buh? :confused:
Intangelon
08-05-2007, 16:27
I was referring to her inheritance, and how she has not worked to earn it. I mean, she has done her own thing with modeling, acting, and selling sex tapes, but what has she done to earn her multi-billion dollar fortune? She was born into it. How is that fair at all?
My mum has to work 2 jobs in order to provide for my sister and myself. Shouldn't people like her be given an easy time in life? Hell, if she were to be caught driving without a license, she'd be jailed, and then probably fired from her job. Paris on the hand, is going away for a few day, more than likely won't see a cell, and will be let go to do her same shit over again. She automatically assumes that her money has put her above the law. All rich people are the same way.:gundge:
There is my noobish gun smiley
So many things wrong with this post, it's hard to know where to start. How is it fair that she's an heiress? Well, let's see, the family who earned the fortune (and yes, I realize that "earn" is a relative term -- magnates and captains of industry didn't ALL pull themselves out of obscurity and poverty) decided to have children. That's how it's fair. Your parents decided (whether on purpose or not, only they know -- that's not an insult, just a truth...I was an unintended child and very glad to be here regardless) to have you and your mum's having a tough time of it. I'm sorry for that, but it doesn't make Paris' accident of birth unfair.
The fact that Paris has chosen a lifestyle that basically involves coasting through life on a cushion of inheritance has nothing whatsoever to do with you. You're envious, and understandably so (hell, so am I), but it doesn't excuse the kind of class-warfare hippy/punk "eat the rich" mentality that Ruffy is justifiably upset about.
Finally, to make a completely asinine statement like "all rich people are the same way" is, in my mind, no better than saying "all (insert race here) people are the same way." It's a ridiculously sweeping generalization and it is completely wrong, to boot.
Paris may learn something from jail, and she might not. I know that philanthropy is alive and well among the wealthy (The Bill & Melinda Gates foundation alone has given away more money than Paris will ever see). Perhaps she will learn that leeching off her trust fund and sliding through life as a walking advertisement for consumerism of everything from jewelry to sex (which, judging from her "performance" in the infamous night-vision video, she doesn't seem to even enjoy) is inherently unrewarding and empty. Some people take longer to come to that truth than others -- hell, our own president was 40 before he figured out that a life of partying and excess is actually kinda pointless.
Is she talentless? As far as we've seen, yes. Is she stupid? As far as we've seen, yes. Is she promiscuous or at least salacious? Yes. Do these things sell in 21st century America? Yes they do. ANd as long as they do, Paris, or any of her type, will be there to take advantage. Guess what? That's capitalism, that's the market, and NONE of it deserves jail time.
Drunken driving and volation of parole and driving without a license (especially when you can afford a chauffeur...), are not only inadvisable, they're against the law.
It remains to be seen whether or not she'll do any appreciable jail time -- after all, money buys the best lawyers, and avoiding jail is what they're hired to do -- but if you are cheering because Paris is a "skank with money", then you're no better than she is. Why? Becuse you, too are expressing an abhorrent and unenlightened opinion in public. And that, friends, is within your freedom and right to do.
Clearly you can't see how teenagers act, following their idols every move and copying off them, deciding that they know best how they should act. I don't see how this needs explanation, it seems pretty obvious to me.
Well given that I don't live in America, no, clearly I can't.
Okay, im not actually advocating her death. Jesus Christ Almighty! You people on here are so anal about things. A fellow says "oh she deserves to die" and you take it to mean it literally. About as smart as me saying "Im going to kill you!" and you literally taking it to mean that, even though it is a figure of speech.
So are you admitting that she doesn't deserve to be punished in some way because she's an heriess?
Remote Observer
08-05-2007, 16:27
I am getting the impression that somehow, people think that you can't contribute to the world unless you "suffer" doing it.
Sounds like a rather Catholic idea. Rather surprising, considering the number of atheists on this forum.
Arthais101
08-05-2007, 16:29
Clearly you can't see how teenagers act, following their idols every move and copying off them, deciding that they know best how they should act. I don't see how this needs explanation, it seems pretty obvious to me.
oh wow, that's a totally new phenominon. That's never happened at all in our history, and we are now surely doomed as these teenagers will never actually grow up now, because they started mimicing elvis...I mean the beatles...I mean the backstreet boys... I mean paris hilton
Well, you've got to love her defense argument in court --> "I didn't know that I wasn't supposed to drive after they took away my driver's license." and "I don't deserve this."
Kind of supports the various claims made in this thread about her not having too much to brag about between her ears...
Troglobites
08-05-2007, 16:32
I don't care how she lives her life. Hell, I'd more than love to coast on inheritance. But, these checks you're talking about, It's like pennies to them, they're still taking more than they are giving. And don't forget these checks are tax deductable.
Dryks Legacy
08-05-2007, 16:33
So the right to live is contingent on furthering humanity? Those who don't are simply left to die? And who decides what counts as furthering?
No it isn't. But anyone who doesn't further humanity has to live with the knowledge that they're not fulfilling their purpose as a member of their species.
Fartsniffage
08-05-2007, 16:34
No it isn't. But anyone who doesn't further humanity has to live with the knowledge that they're not fulfilling their purpose as a member of their species.
Wow, you figured out the meaning of life Share it with us please.
Intangelon
08-05-2007, 16:36
Clearly you can't see how teenagers act, following their idols every move and copying off them, deciding that they know best how they should act. I don't see how this needs explanation, it seems pretty obvious to me.
I'm a teacher. I see how they act. Guess what? You're still wrong.
All any celebrity has to do is say the wrong thing once, and that ride can end like that *snaps fingers*. Teenagers emulating celebrities has a very easy antidote. Parenting. You seem to believe that they're mindlessly following every last thing their celebrity idols do. I say that the proportion of that statement that is true is directly proportional to the number of those teenagers who have inattentive, absentee parents. And no, being a working pair or single parent does not automatically mean inattentive, so don't try the class-warfare argument here, too. There are plenty of kids who have one parent at home who is sadly inattentive. Socioeconomic status has little to do with attentive parenting.
So yes, your absurd and patently assumptive statement needs a LOT of explanation.
Intangelon
08-05-2007, 16:38
Well, you've got to love her defense argument in court --> "I didn't know that I wasn't supposed to drive after they took away my driver's license." and "I don't deserve this."
Kind of supports the various claims made in this thread about her not having too much to brag about between her ears...
Now THAT kind of willful ignorance, to me, is worthy of a perfectly excusable bout of schadenfreude. It isn't worthy of extra time for being that arrogant, but man, I'll get a bit of a hoot out of it.
Intangelon
08-05-2007, 16:44
I don't care how she lives her life. Hell, I'd more than love to coast on inheritance. But, these checks you're talking about, It's like pennies to them, they're still taking more than they are giving. And don't forget these checks are tax deductable.
Explain and defend that statement, if you can. If they're "taking", they're paying for it. Now, you want to talk about corporate welfare, that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish. But when Paris rents a villa, she's gotta pay for it. And guess what? When you give to charities, you get a deduction, too!
I'm no defender of the assumption of privilege and superiority that SOME who are well off CAN have. But to assume that it's ubiquitous makes you a shallow, unenlightened parroter of hippie/communist idealism. Which is fine, and your right to do, but how's about looking into your accusations yourself and checking your assumptions before becoming another parrot yourself? It doesn't matter which side the parrot is on, repeating unresearched talking points makes me wanna call you Polly.
Intangelon
08-05-2007, 16:46
No it isn't. But anyone who doesn't further humanity has to live with the knowledge that they're not fulfilling their purpose as a member of their species.
What the flying monkey spank are you blathering about? By what right do you get to make anything even approaching such a Godlike judgement?
I have seen arrogance in my time, but this takes the cake, has sex with it, covers the hole with frosting, and takes it back.
Bliss and Beauty
08-05-2007, 16:52
I was under the impression she has another month before serving, during which time her lawyer will appeal.
And why exactly does Paris deserve jail time again?
She deserves jail time because she put other people's lives in danger. Driving drunk, driving down Sunset with lights off at 70mph (I lived in Hollywood, this is EXTREMELY dangerous). She had her license suspended because of these things and continued to drive. If you or I were to do that we would end up in jail too. Why should she be above the law?
oh wow, that's a totally new phenominon. That's never happened at all in our history, and we are now surely doomed as these teenagers will never actually grow up now, because they started mimicing elvis...I mean the beatles...I mean the backstreet boys... I mean paris hilton
I don't recall ever saying that they don't grow out of it, most of the time anyway. Just that celebrities have a powerful influence over youth. I really can't see how you can deny that.
Cannot think of a name
08-05-2007, 17:02
Yeah, I'm not going to feel bad for having a little satisfaction at Paris getting some come upins'. Sorry.
You all might have a case if I felt this way about everyone who had money or noteriaty that could be argued undo. But I don't.
Frankly, I'm allowed to not like a person as a person based on the persona she chooses to project on the world. And I can feel that that person, based on her performance on the 'public stage,' is in fact deserving of that come upins' and I don't feel bad about it at all. Sorry. I wouldn't support her being pulled off the streets and arbitraily sentenced to time in some Kafka-esque Trial, but that's not what's happening here. She is going to jail for a legitimate crime that would ruin the life of you or me and will at best slightly inconvinience her.
I don't hate her because she's rich, I hate her because she's an aweful aweful person. Not going to feel bad about that. Sorry.
Troglobites
08-05-2007, 17:04
Parrot? well, you my friend you're a ferret.
Anyhoo, Doesn't the fact shows like Entertainment Tonight, and any gossip tabloids have a niche disturb you? It's like their lives are so void they actual care about a person, but they have no clue who they are. Why not worry about the terminally ill patient in the city hospital, or just your own family? I don't care what Bono wants me to do. he's up there with 300 dollar glasses the masses essencially bought him, and he expects me to pony up cash.
Remote Observer
08-05-2007, 17:08
Who cares what happens to Paris?
She should do the same time that anyone else charged with the same crime should do.
Nothing more, nothing less.
I think that a lot of you want her to SUFFER - as though that would make a difference in her life, or make you feel better about the fact that you don't have billions of dollars of your own.
Nationalian
08-05-2007, 17:09
She deserves jail but I have to admit that if feels especially good because she's a spoiled, rich brat.
Intangelon
08-05-2007, 17:59
Parrot? well, you my friend you're a ferret.
Anyhoo, Doesn't the fact shows like Entertainment Tonight, and any gossip tabloids have a niche disturb you? It's like their lives are so void they actual care about a person, but they have no clue who they are. Why not worry about the terminally ill patient in the city hospital, or just your own family? I don't care what Bono wants me to do. he's up there with 300 dollar glasses the masses essencially bought him, and he expects me to pony up cash.
The difference, Polly, is that I explained why you're a parrot.
"Anyhoo", Bono's $300 glasses were bought by Bono. His occupation is popular musician, and at this moment in time, that occupation pays a lot and comes with the opportunity to address a lot of humanity at once. If I had that opportunity, I might bring attention to some things that don't usually get any attention as a way of doing my part to help. What Bono does with the money he earned (remember, in a free market economy, talent is somewhat irrelevant -- popularity is what sells) is his own business.
Cyrian space
08-05-2007, 18:10
Wow, I never meant this as some call for class warfare. I don't hate her because she's rich, I hate her because she's an attention whore, and an untalented one at that. The "menace in our streets" bit was meant half jokingly (and half serious 'cause she was driving drunk.)
I see her as an Icon of everything wrong with our culture, and on this basis, I like it when bad things happen to her. (within reason, at least.)
Troglobites
08-05-2007, 18:11
The difference, Polly, is that I explained why you're a parrot.
"Anyhoo", Bono's $300 glasses were bought by Bono. His occupation is popular musician, and at this moment in time, that occupation pays a lot and comes with the opportunity to address a lot of humanity at once. If I had that opportunity, I might bring attention to some things that don't usually get any attention as a way of doing my part to help. What Bono does with the money he earned (remember, in a free market economy, talent is somewhat irrelevant -- popularity is what sells) is his own business.
You're a hoot. Seriously. :rolleyes:
I made up my own damn mind! If my views seem "hippie" and "ill advised" that's your view. I let it be, how about some quid pro quo?
Gauthier
08-05-2007, 18:29
But celebrities have no real power at all. It's not as if they can make royal decrees and reasonably expect the country to obey them.
If celebrities have no real power, then why does the Republican Party bitch and whine constantly about the Liberal Hollywood Elites now and then? Why is Angelina Jolie UN Ambassador? If celebrities had absolutely no influence on others then we wouldn't be drowning the sewer that's called Reality TV at the moment. It's a definite sign that America is obcessed with celebrity to the point they'll even jump at the chance to become one themselves.
Intangelon
08-05-2007, 19:24
You're a hoot. Seriously. :rolleyes:
I made up my own damn mind! If my views seem "hippie" and "ill advised" that's your view. I let it be, how about some quid pro quo?
Quid pro quo is exactly what you're getting. You make an argument slandering another celebrity and his money, and I countered it. What part of internet forum discourse don't you understand?
Intangelon
08-05-2007, 19:26
If celebrities have no real power, then why does the Republican Party bitch and whine constantly about the Liberal Hollywood Elites now and then? Why is Angelina Jolie UN Ambassador? If celebrities had absolutely no influence on others then we wouldn't be drowning the sewer that's called Reality TV at the moment. It's a definite sign that America is obcessed with celebrity to the point they'll even jump at the chance to become one themselves.
The parallels to the decline of the Roman Empire are becoming harder and harder to ingore. America seems to be in the "bread and circuses" phase of its decline.
Not to mention her pop album, perfume, handbag line, tv series...etc.Let's not forget her line of Stupid Spoiled Whore Video Playsets.
Soviestan
08-05-2007, 19:50
I bet your main reason for celebrating her punishment is because she's a "rich snob" right?
When you have a reason better than "she has money", I stop rolling my eyes.
How about, "she broke the law and deserves to go to jail like every other criminal." Thats reason enough for me. The fact that she's a spoiled lazy whore who happens to be rich doesn't give her the right to skirt the system.
Siempreciego
08-05-2007, 23:08
actually i personally feel that role models (what a sad world when someone like paris falls into this catergory) should be held to higher standards than the average person. My reasoning for this is that people will emulate them, especially when they seem to get easier sentences. So in the case of paris driving without a licence and i beleive under hte influence, she should be executed:D or at least the full sentence for the offense.
Free Soviets
08-05-2007, 23:25
What Bono does with the money he earned (remember, in a free market economy, talent is somewhat irrelevant -- popularity is what sells) is his own business.
no it isn't. not entirely, anyways.