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MAY 4--A Louisiana college student has been charged with threatening the life of Hillary Clinton, whom the man said he would kill when she visited Baton Rouge. Richard Wargo, a 19-year-old Louisiana State University freshman, was arrested yesterday after he allegedly told a fellow student that he wanted to commit an act of terrorism and wanted to know if the classmate was interested in participating. The planned terror act, Wargo told the other student last month, would be a "national event" and mentioned Clinton's name when asked if it was politically motivated, according to the below search warrant. Clinton is scheduled to speak tomorrow in Baton Rouge in connection with the National Conference of Black Mayors gathering. When Wargo's classmate told him that an attack on Clinton would make her even more popular, he responded, according to the warrant, "True, but have you ever heard of a dead president?" Wargo, a physics major, was arrested after his classmate yesterday contacted university police and reported his statements. During a search last night of Wargo's dormitory room, investigators seized a laptop computer, cell phone, and several containers of marijuana, according to an inventory sheet. Charged with terrorizing and an arson rap, Wago is being held on $1 million bond at the East Baton Rouge Sheriff's Office, where the mug shot at right was taken.

Source (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0504071hillary1.html)

Well, it had to happen sooner than later... I quite like the underlined bit. Also, are any of you planning on voting for her?

This doesn't say anything about anyone, nope, not at all.

His biggest mistake was telling a friend.

Just because you're crazy doesn't mean your friends are. After all, 1 in 5 people are crazy and if your four friends don't apply it must be you.

Source (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0504071hillary1.html)

Well, it had to happen sooner than later... I quite like the underlined bit. Also, are any of you planning on voting for her?

I am not amused at all. As much as I do not like Senator Clinton, this is just as bad as people advocating the assassination of President Bush. And no, I am not voting for her.

Well, how about that. A loser with delusions of grandeur. :rolleyes:

And to answer your question: I'm not planning on voting for her in the primary, and I really, really hope she's not in the general election. I'll take guys with expensive haircuts for $400, Alex.

Well, how about that. A loser with delusions of grandeur. :rolleyes:

A potential presidential candidate!

I already decided I'm rootin' for Obama in the primaries.

A potential presidential candidate!

Not another one. We have, what, twenty candidates in the race now between the two major parties? And that's not even counting the Libertarians, Greens, or any of the myriad micro-parties you've never heard of but who always seem to run candidates every four years.

In all seriousness, this is probably what happened. They were both getting stoned and this Wargo joker said something about wanting to assasinate Hillary. In the reefer induced paranoia his roomate freaks and calls the police. I mean, who here hasn't at one time or another in their life jokingly said they were going to assasinate a political figure? Nobody...?

Incredibly crude and tasteless...jeez. This churns my stomach.

In all seriousness, this is probably what happened. They were both getting stoned and this Wargo joker said something about wanting to assasinate Hillary. In the reefer induced paranoia his roomate freaks and calls the police. I mean, who here hasn't at one time or another in their life jokingly said they were going to assasinate a political figure? Nobody...?

The Secret Service, which is assigned to protect Presidential candidates as well as actual Presidents, has very little sense of humor about assassination threats.

Shoot, they paid a call on Senator Jesse Helms in late 1992 when he jokingly told a local reporter that if President-elect Clinton was to come to North Carolina, "he'd better bring a bodyguard." The Secret Service really, really objects to comments like that, no matter who makes them, or how humorously intended.

(I read a very funny piece by Hunter S. Thompson once, about discussing with a Secret Service agent what he could and could not write about a presidential candidate during the 1972 presidential campaign. Basically, the agent said he had no problem with Thompson calling Ed Muskie a homosexual cross-dressing alcoholic - libel wasn't his department. But he warned Thompson that he couldn't advocate, even very indirectly, any sort of violence against a candidate.)

The Secret Service, which is assigned to protect Presidential candidates as well as actual Presidents, has very little sense of humor about assassination threats.

Shoot, they paid a call on Senator Jesse Helms in late 1992 when he jokingly told a local reporter that if President-elect Clinton was to come to North Carolina, "he'd better bring a bodyguard." The Secret Service really, really objects to comments like that, no matter who makes them, or how humorously intended.

(I read a very funny piece by Hunter S. Thompson once, about discussing with a Secret Service agent what he could and could not write about a presidential candidate during the 1972 presidential campaign. Basically, the agent said he had no problem with Thompson calling Ed Muskie a homosexual cross-dressing alcoholic - libel wasn't his department. But he warned Thompson that he couldn't advocate, even very indirectly, any sort of violence against a candidate.)

Yes, yes. Serious business and all that. But I seem to recall numerous occasions on this forum where President Bush's life has been threatened.

Yes, yes. Serious business and all that. But I seem to recall numerous occasions on this forum where President Bush's life has been threatened.

And that is dispicable for people to advcate the killing of any one.

And that is dispicable for people to advcate the killing of any one.

And I agree with you. Short of evil on the scale of Pol Pot/Hitler nobody deserves to die, or to have someone advocate it. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. A trip to Guantanamo Bay perhaps?

And I agree with you. Short of evil on the scale of Pol Pot/Hitler nobody deserves to die, or to have someone advocate it. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. A trip to Guantanamo Bay perhaps?

I highly doubt it.

He could just be a completely normal guy who was messing with his friend.

I'd hate that!

...Or he really could be a psychopath.

In all seriousness, this is probably what happened. They were both getting stoned and this Wargo joker said something about wanting to assasinate Hillary. In the reefer induced paranoia his roomate freaks and calls the police. I mean, who here hasn't at one time or another in their life jokingly said they were going to assasinate a political figure? Nobody...?

I haven't.

It's a stupid thing to do, because the Secret Service exists solely to act on threat information, and tie your trachea into a reef knot.

I highly doubt it.

Charged with terrorizing

Maybe that doesn't count as a terrorist act (or plotting to commit terrorism), but from the sound of that things are not looking good for Mr. Wargo.

I haven't.

It's a stupid thing to do, because the Secret Service exists solely to act on threat information, and tie your trachea into a reef knot.

That was meant to be sarcastic.

Just saying something could land you in jail?

Oh, I've planned to kill US President George W. Bush with an 18-foot, 100-kg. anaconda that I will put under his seat. That anaconda will swallow him whole as he sits in the chair. And also, I'd wanted to slice Hillary's neck with a bread knife when she would tour my hometown to campaign. And stuff Barack Obama's mouth with a stale moldy loaf of bread when he opens his mouth to make a speech on the podium in Nashua, New Hampshire. And install a bomb on Sam Brownback's seat that will explode when he'll sit. And pee into Mitt Romney's morning coffee back in Boston. And lace Cheney's tea with Jimson weed.

Come on, arrest me.

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You can't. I'm not in America anyway...
And for sanity's sake, the guy was just saying something! Come on, free speech? Police only got lots of computer stuff, yet I did not see anything in the things they seized that can remotely be used for arson or terroristic activities. What the heck they think will he do? Throw the Dell laptop at Hillary's head? Turn those CDs into discuses? Make deadly confetti out of paperwork?

Jeez.

That was meant to be sarcastic.

Then again, when I was younger, I don't remember what was said when I was drunk or high.

Just saying something could land you in jail?

Oh, I've planned to kill US President George W. Bush with an 18-foot, 100-kg. anaconda that I will put under his seat. That anaconda will swallow him whole as he sits in the chair. And also, I'd wanted to slice Hillary's neck with a bread knife when she would tour my hometown to campaign. And stuff Barack Obama's mouth with a stale moldy loaf of bread when he opens his mouth to make a speech on the podium in Nashua, New Hampshire. And install a bomb on Sam Brownback's seat that will explode when he'll sit. And pee into Mitt Romney's morning coffee back in Boston. And lace Cheney's tea with Jimson weed.

Come on, arrest me.

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You can't. I'm not in America anyway...
And for sanity's sake, the guy was just saying something! Come on, free speech? Police only got lots of computer stuff, yet I did not see anything in the things they seized that can remotely be used for arson or terroristic activities. What the heck they think will he do? Throw the Dell laptop at Hillary's head? Turn those CDs into discuses? Make deadly confetti out of paperwork?

Jeez.

:O

I am not amused at all. As much as I do not like Senator Clinton, this is just as bad as people advocating the assassination of President Bush. And no, I am not voting for her.

Indeed. Speaking from a political context, and assassin would probably achieve the exact opposite of what he was attempting to do(I do not support assassination of anyone, btw).

If Bush were assassinated, regardless of his low approval ratings, you would likely see a Republican resurgence, as it would incredibly easy to label Dems and Liberals as people whom killed the president. Even an unpopular president that was assassinated would cause a political uproar.

Indeed. Speaking from a political context, and assassin would probably achieve the exact opposite of what he was attempting to do(I do not support assassination of anyone, btw).

If Bush were assassinated, regardless of his low approval ratings, you would likely see a Republican resurgence, as it would incredibly easy to label Dems and Liberals as people whom killed the president. Even an unpopular president that was assassinated would cause a political uproar.

You are quite correct.

Just saying something could land you in jail?

Oh, I've planned to kill US President George W. Bush with an 18-foot, 100-kg. anaconda that I will put under his seat. That anaconda will swallow him whole as he sits in the chair. And also, I'd wanted to slice Hillary's neck with a bread knife when she would tour my hometown to campaign. And stuff Barack Obama's mouth with a stale moldy loaf of bread when he opens his mouth to make a speech on the podium in Nashua, New Hampshire. And install a bomb on Sam Brownback's seat that will explode when he'll sit. And pee into Mitt Romney's morning coffee back in Boston. And lace Cheney's tea with Jimson weed.

Come on, arrest me.

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You can't. I'm not in America anyway...
And for sanity's sake, the guy was just saying something! Come on, free speech? Police only got lots of computer stuff, yet I did not see anything in the things they seized that can remotely be used for arson or terroristic activities. What the heck they think will he do? Throw the Dell laptop at Hillary's head? Turn those CDs into discuses? Make deadly confetti out of paperwork?

Jeez.

Fool. 'Arrest' you? Didn't you see what they did to that german fellow? Bounced him around several third world contries, tortured the bejesus out of him for three years and just dropped him off in Egypt one day and said, 'None of this happened'.

The CIA doesn't 'arrest' people. :D

Yes, yes. Serious business and all that. But I seem to recall numerous occasions on this forum where President Bush's life has been threatened.

Funnily enough, Swedish law doesn't protect Bush from threats unless he's in the country. So, I continue to hope.

Funnily enough, Swedish law doesn't protect Bush from threats unless he's in the country. So, I continue to hope.

Until the CIA comes calling. :)

Until the CIA comes calling. :)

I won't be holding my breath.

It's a stupid thing to do, because the Secret Service exists solely to act on threat information, and tie your trachea into a reef knot.

Um....no they don't. That is ONE of their functions yes, but certainly not SOLEY. Up until 2003 the United States Secret Service was part of the department of the treasury, only recently moved to the department of homeland security.

The majority of the work that the Secret Service does is in fact NOT bodyguarding. The bulk of the work that the secret service does is with the prevention of counterfiting of U.S. currency, bonds, and treasury bills. They are the main anti-counterfiting agency in the US. They also deal with certain instances of fraud and identity theft.

They are certainly not soley bodyguards, in fact, they're not even mostly that. From wiki:

Although today this is the Secret Service's most visible role, personal protection is an anomaly in the responsibilities of an agency focused on fraud and counterfeiting

I won't be holding my breath.

They're like the Spanish Inquisition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZQI0Xm29To) without the subtlety.

Funnily enough, Swedish law doesn't protect Bush from threats unless he's in the country. So, I continue to hope.

Oh, Fass. You wouldn't ever say anything bad about the President would you?

By the way, is your name from The Algebraist by Iain M. Banks?

Fool. 'Arrest' you? Didn't you see what they did to that german fellow? Bounced him around several third world contries, tortured the bejesus out of him for three years and just dropped him off in Egypt one day and said, 'None of this happened'.

The CIA doesn't 'arrest' people. :D

Who is that German fellow?

And, BTW, it's not the CIA that arrested the guy... it's the University Police.
And they don't have to arrest me. They can fly operatives here and shoot me.

I would have no qualms about his arrest if he had relayed the threat to Hillary directly or to Bill, or to Chelsea. But to his friend? Gosh. I thought my country was less freer. But no. We can say those things without fear here.

I would have no qualms about his arrest if he had relayed the threat to Hillary directly or to Bill, or to Chelsea.

Actually Chelsea doesn't get secret service protection anymore.

Fool. 'Arrest' you? Didn't you see what they did to that german fellow? Bounced him around several third world contries, tortured the bejesus out of him for three years and just dropped him off in Egypt one day and said, 'None of this happened'.

The CIA doesn't 'arrest' people. :D

They take them on extended involuntary holidays.

"I attended the 2005 World Prison Tour, and all I got was this stupid T-shirt"

Who is that German fellow?



He was arrested by local police in the Balkans, who then transferred him to the CIA, informing the CIA that he was somebody he wasn't and several other bits of oddness.

He was arrested by local police in the Balkans, who then transferred him to the CIA, informing the CIA that he was somebody he wasn't and several other bits of oddness.

Perhaps that is why there are a lot of odd CIA conspiracy theories out there... the CIA makes the odd serious.