NationStates Jolt Archive

Huh? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/05/AR2007050501081.html)

"It seems that Europe leads Americans in this way of thinking," Romney told the crowd of more than 5,000. "In France, for instance, I'm told that marriage is now frequently contracted in seven-year terms where either party may move on when their term is up. How shallow and how different from the Europe of the past."

The saddest part of this is that he said this in a graduation speech at Regent University, which is religious psycho Pat Robertson's "school." The graduates probably believe him.

Wow! I bet that must come as a surprise to the French!

wow. instead of running to the right, he's running to the stupid!

Where do they find these people??

Umm...

I have a Cease-and-Desist order from the Bag of Hammers Defense League...

Who is Mitt Romney and why does that quote make him dumber than a bag of nails?

Who is Mitt RomneyRepublican, former governor of Massachussetts, and presidential candidate.

and why does that quote make him stupid?
Figure it out for yourself. You'll be a better person for it.

Dude, if you have no idea why that was a stupid thing to say then the terrorists win.

I have a feeling that my name on the poll isn't a tribute to my intelligence. :(

Dude, if you have no idea why that was a stupid thing to say then the terrorists win.

Could well be the best post ever.

Could well be the best post ever.

*bows*

Republican, former governor of Massachussetts, and presidential candidate.

If Americans wern't so fucking stupid, I would say these guys are trying to hand the presidency to the Democrats. That is the only way I can justify Republican candidates saying shit this dumb.

Dude, if you have no idea why that was a stupid thing to say then the terrorists win.

I disagree with his claiming that this is shallow and ignorant, but the quote is so small that it's hard to get the gist of it all. Humour me?

EDIT: Actually cancel that; I am an idiot. I didn't notice that there was a link to go with the quote.

It's one of those things you read, then do a double-take, then read again, do another double-take, then say to yourself "what... the.... fuck?"

No, no, no, Mitt Romney doesn't say crap like this because he's dumb. He's says it because he's a liar. A liar, a cheat, and always has been. He gets all kinds of credit for his "career" in Utah and running the Salt Lake City Olympics, but those were the games that were investigated on charges of political corruption in the deals that were made to get them into that city. The instant he got free of that mess, he snatched up a quickie governor's job in Massachusetts, just to pave his way to DC. And the instant he got into the State House, he started campaigning to put himself into the White House. Mitt Romney is all things to all people. He has told so many conflicting stories about himself that I challenge anyone to state, from memory, where he's from, what his background is, or where he stands on any issue versus where he stood on it a year ago. No wonder he says nonsense like this -- it's hard to edit one's lies when one's mouth is running at high speed 24/7. When he ran for gov in Mass, nobody here even knew who he was or where he came from. But somehow, he flashes that Great White grin of his and the rubes get all starstruck and will swallow any bull he dishes out. They don't stay struck for long. The scales fell from most eyes in Mass about a week after the election, but by then it was too late. Mittney (as he is called in Mass) got what he wanted and, beyond that, he didn't need to care - and that is EXACTLY how he would treat the presidency, too. As hard as it might be to imagine a worse president than George W. Bush, I really think that, of the current crop of wannabes, Romney just might be the one. Bush is destroying this country for his ideology. Romney would do it for money.

Huh? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/05/AR2007050501081.html)



The saddest part of this is that he said this in a graduation speech at Regent University, which is religious psycho Pat Robertson's "school." The graduates probably believe him.

Lolz.

Huh? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/05/AR2007050501081.html)



The saddest part of this is that he said this in a graduation speech at Regent University, which is religious psycho Pat Robertson's "school." The graduates probably believe him.

If it were any other Christian university, I would say that the majority probably wouldn't believe him.

However, this is Pat Robertson's school, so I probably shouldn't say that.
RU is also very close to where I live.

I have a feeling that my name on the poll isn't a tribute to my intelligence. :(

It has more to do with the fact that everyone thinks you're a troll.

If Americans wern't so fucking stupid, I would say these guys are trying to hand the presidency to the Democrats. That is the only way I can justify Republican candidates saying shit this dumb.

Oh, like you can talk. I'm so fucking tired of jackass intolerant foreigners who think Americans are stupid without actually understanding the actual political climate of America.

If Americans wern't so fucking stupid

As someone not living in Canada, Mehico, or any South American country, I want to say something entirely irreverent.

-_-

Oh, like you can talk. I'm so fucking tired of jackass intolerant foreigners who think Americans are stupid without actually understanding the actual political climate of America.
I'm American, genius. And I live smack in the middle of "Americans who would believe stupid shit like that" aka "Dipshit Land." There are still people writing letters to the editor daily about how "if we don't fight them over there, we will be fighting them over here." I'm entirely sure those Iraqi insurgents have a land invasion of Alabama on their list of things to do right after "kick Americans out of homeland."

If Americans wern't so fucking stupid

Yeah, because we're all like that. :rolleyes:

"if we don't fight them over there, we will be fighting them over here." I'm entirely sure those Iraqi insurgents have a land invasion of Alabama on their list of things to do right after "kick Americans out of homeland."

You remember The Alamo don't you!?!
Don't you!?

Remember The Alamoooo0oO0o00OOooO!!

Yeah, because we're all like that. :rolleyes:
Why should I expect anything more of people who obviously don't know what hyperbole is? :rolleyes:

Mitt Romney sounds like the name of a man who trains rottweilers for a living. You kooky Americans.

You remember The Alamo don't you!?!
Don't you!?

Remember The Alamoooo0oO0o00OOooO!!
The Mexicans were over nine thousaaaaaaaannd

Why should I expect anything more of people who obviously don't know what hyperbole is? :rolleyes:

I was not making a hyper-ball with my Alamo comment.

I am really seeing some similarity.. we invaded Iraq, we invaded Mehico.
They Mexicans beat us out of the Alamo, who knows what they will do to avenge the unlawful land invasion we have thrust at them.

The Mexicans were over nine thousaaaaaaaannd

LEEEEROY JEEEEENKIIIIIINS!!

LEEEEROY JEEEEENKIIIIIINS!!

LEEEEEROY JEEEENNKINNNSSSS II: Leeroy goes to SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I was not making a hyper-ball with my Alamo comment.

I am really seeing some similarity.. we invaded Iraq, we invaded Mehico.
They Mexicans beat us out of the Alamo, who knows what they will do to avenge the unlawful land invasion we have thrust at them.

You do know how that story ended, right? They won at the Alamo, but at great cost, and then got stomped at the Battle of San Jacinto, which led to the capture of General Santa Anna, and the founding of the short-lived Texas Republic (short-lived because it joined the US not long afterward).

You do know how that story ended, right? They won at the Alamo, but at great cost, and then got stomped at the Battle of San Jacinto, which led to the capture of General Santa Anna, and the founding of the short-lived Texas Republic (short-lived because it joined the US not long afterward).

Yep...stop ruining my fear-mongering conspiracy theories.

The saddest part of this is that he said this in a graduation speech at Regent University, which is religious psycho Pat Robertson's "school." The graduates probably believe him.

Is this a surprise?:rolleyes: "Whoa, non-America is evil!".
Another part of the "freedom fries" thread.

Mayonnaise, anyone?

I was not making a hyper-ball with my Alamo comment.

yes, and that's not how you spell parrot

What's his problem with seven-year marriages?

Romney said. "I opened my Bible shortly after I heard of the tragedy. Only a few verses, it seems, after the Fall, we read that Adam and Eve's oldest son killed his younger brother. From the beginning, there has been evil in the world."

It's like he opened the Bible for the first time :confused:

Perhaps he should read this (http://www.dltk-bible.com/genesis/chapter4-index.htm), if he can hold throwing up when doing so

I guess telling this guy that the French Civil Code and ideas of the Revolution were a big inspiration to the founding fathers would be a big surprise.

It's like he opened the Bible for the first time :confused:

well, he is a mormon. i think they are typically too busy reading their ridiculously obvious forgeries to waste time reading redacted old hebrew stories.

7 year marriages bad, 7 wife marriages good.

well, he is a mormon. i think they are typically too busy reading their ridiculously obvious forgeries to waste time reading redacted old hebrew stories.

The Bible hardly stands up much better under close scholarly analysis.

The Bible hardly stands up much better under close scholarly analysis.


The Holy Qur'an, on the other hand will with stand any scholarly analysis!

The Bible hardly stands up much better under close scholarly analysis.

yeah, but at least it is legitimately old

yeah, but at least it is legitimately old

If you want really old genuine scholarly literature, your better off with Aristotle or Thucydides, at least their work doesn't contradict itself every second paragraph, and contain logic holes so big you could drive a truck through them.

Wow! I bet that must come as a surprise to the French!

I'm French, and that does indeed come as a bit of a surprise... An amusing one.

I still don't see why that would be a bad idea.

I struggle with the concept that this man is a presidential candidate.

What's his problem with seven-year marriages?

Six years, eleven months and two weeks. Give or take.

I struggle with the concept that this man is a presidential candidate.

Or that he's a better choice than these three goons

Huckabee
Tancredo
Brownback

However, given...

None were given the opportunity to explain their views, however, and many members in the main stream press and bloggers raised their eyebrows - as if believing in creationism is not a mainstream belief.

They're wrong.

A recent Newsweek survey presented people with three explanations for the origins of human life: that humans developed over millions of years, from lesser to more advanced forms of life, while God guided the process; that God played no hand in the process; and that God created humans in their present form.

The first option is a sort of hybrid creation-evolution theory. The second option is evolution as explained by science, and the third summarizes the idea of creationism.

78% of respondents said creationism or a hybrid of creation-evolution most closely matched their beliefs.

Nearly half the sample in the Newsweek poll, 48 percent, said the creationism option was closest to their beliefs, and 30 percent chose the hybrid option.

Just 13 percent of the sample chose evolution alone as the best approximation of their view of human development.

Those results have been mirrored in a series of Gallup polls that have asked nearly the same question at several points over the past 25 years. As recently as 2004 an ABC News poll found 61 percent said the creation story in the Bible -- that God created the world in six days -- is "literally true."

Source (http://www.mikehuckabeepresident2008.blogspot.com/) -I worry about the source, can anyone confirm those figures?

Anyway...

What we're seeing here from Romney is, apparently, part of his campaign tactics, which are:

Beyond the obvious, the document shows plans to play to Republican xenophobia with a resumption of France-bashing. The campaign equates Hillary Clinton with France and plans bumper stickers saying, “First, not France.”

At least some of this plan is sensible. The plan lists two ways to distinguish Romney from George Bush. The first is “Intelligence.”

Link (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/02/27/document_shows_romneys_strategies/)

Link (http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1146)from which the above quote was taken

Well, his name is Mitt. That should be your first clue right there. Nothing worthwhile ever came from a man named Mitt.

In fact, I don't think that's even the name of a human. He's an alien! Has anybody seem his navel? *eyes narrow*

Well, his name is Mitt. That should be your first clue right there. Nothing worthwhile ever came from a man named Mitt.

In fact, I don't think that's even the name of a human. He's an alien! Has anybody seem his navel? *eyes narrow*

It's short for Messerschmitt, Messerschmitt Romney

No, not really but it'd be nice if it was

"Pornography and violence poison our music and movies and TV and video games. The Virginia Tech shooter, like the Columbine shooters before him, had drunk from this cesspool." (from Romneys rant)

'The Usual Suspects' then. Yet heres something I read the other day about that same incident,

"Hyang In Cho was so desperate to find help for her silent, angry son that she sought out...... "

...Doctors, psychiatric advice, councilling? Fuck no, that would be madness

.......some members of One Mind Church in Woodbridge to heal him of what the church's head pastor called "demonic power."


Cho's family has said nothing publicly about his medical history, his academic performance or anything else that might explain what drove him to kill. Nevertheless, Hyang In Cho knew last year that her son was troubled. Before finding One Mind, she had gone to several other congregations of various denominations seeking help, according to officials at several Northern Virginia churches

Did any of these fuckwits say "maybe its a problem medicine could help with?

"His problem needed to be solved by spiritual power," said Lee, whose church members met with Cho and his mother. "That's why she came to our church -- because we were helping several people like him." Those churchgoers told Hyang In Cho that her son was afflicted by demonic power and needed deliverance, Lee said.

...certainly not chuckles there, at any rate.

Full Article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/05/AR2007050501221.html?hpid=topnews)

Link (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/02/27/document_shows_romneys_strategies/)

Enmity toward France, where Romney did his Mormon mission during college, is a recurring theme of the document. The European Union, it says at one point, wants to "drag America down to Europe's standards," adding: "That's where Hillary and Dems would take us. Hillary = France." The plan even envisions "First, not France" bumper stickers

Haha! They really must think the US public is both ignorant and stupid. Too bad they probably know their audience quite well to think so...

Enmity toward France, where Romney did his Mormon mission during college, is a recurring theme of the document. The European Union, it says at one point, wants to "drag America down to Europe's standards," adding: "That's where Hillary and Dems would take us. Hillary = France." The plan even envisions "First, not France" bumper stickers

Haha! They really must think the US public is both ignorant and stupid. Too bad they probably know their audience quite well to think so...
Their target audience is ignorant, stupid, and jingoist. Instead of playing to their hardcore conservatism, they are playing to their stupidity. When you think Americans couldn't look worse with the ignorant conservatism, people change tactics and bring out how plain stupid they are.

I'm French, and that does indeed come as a bit of a surprise... An amusing one.

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Not sure about amusing. Scary. This guy seems to be taken seriously by the GOP for their nomination. Either he is continuing the neocon rhetoric or he's a populist. At the moment America needs neither.

There is not a single senior American politician how is truly a statesman. Nixon was a statesman. He had a good grasp on geo-politics. As did Kissinger. Other statesmen include Madeline Albright (even the French gave her high honour).

You might balk at these three as they were also involved in either nefarious activity or brazen political flimflamming. Yet their roles on the world stage have been positively recognised. Sometimes political reality is unpleasant. Right or wrong...someone makes the decision. To recover is a part of what makes them statesmen.

Thats the really scary thing. That there is no one who has that kind of gravitas.

Bill Clinton? Not a chance. Slick Willie is damaged goods and Hils...well. Whilst not as hated as in the US she does not get much good press.

Mitt Romney I figure is an idiot, and given gaffes like that will continue King Georges long tradition of doing the same.

Really America....you can do better.

If Americans wern't so fucking stupid, I would say these guys are trying to hand the presidency to the Democrats. That is the only way I can justify Republican candidates saying shit this dumb.

On the other hand, they may have decided that stupidity is a winning tactic. After all, look who's in the White House now... :headbang:

On the other hand, they may have decided that stupidity is a winning tactic. After all, look who's in the White House now... :headbang:

Another thing that is scary is that his speech would have been written and checked by his staff and himself. To give such a glaringly wrong statement in public really just beggars belief.

Another thing that is scary is that his speech would have been written and checked by his staff and himself. To give such a glaringly wrong statement in public really just beggars belief.

Expect a bunch of dumb conservatives referencing this over and over. I would bet we will be hearing O'Reilly saying it before too long.

Expect a bunch of dumb conservatives referencing this over and over. I would bet we will be hearing O'Reilly saying it before too long.

Like Al Gore invented the internet...Mitt Romney has rewritten France's wedding traditions.

Another thing that is scary is that his speech would have been written and checked by his staff and himself. To give such a glaringly wrong statement in public really just beggars belief.

I agree. To me, it should totally discredit him as a serious candidate.

Like Al Gore invented the internet...Mitt Romney has rewritten France's wedding traditions.

Worse--there was a nugget of truth in Gore's claim (though he didn't actually claim to invent the internet), while Romney's is completely devoid of reality.

Source (http://www.mikehuckabeepresident2008.blogspot.com/) -I worry about the source, can anyone confirm those figures?

Anyway...
The numbers look about right when you factor in the "evolution/God hybrid" part, as that's a popular catch-all among people who are looking for a middle ground between atheist and batshit-insane fundamentalist.

Worse--there was a nugget of truth in Gore's claim (though he didn't actually claim to invent the internet), while Romney's is completely devoid of reality.

Yeah I was referencing (badly) the public meme...both of which are wrong. The belief that Al Gore invented the internet and that weddings only last for 7 years in France. I expect the Romney thing to lodge in the nutters anti europe meme.

And yeah...meme...what a load of bollocks eh? LOL

The numbers look about right when you factor in the "evolution/God hybrid" part, as that's a popular catch-all among people who are looking for a middle ground between atheist and batshit-insane fundamentalist.

I guess you don't see the difference between Mormons and fundamentalists.

Most fundamentalists I know would NEVER vote for a Mormon, no matter what came out of his mouth.

I guess you don't see the difference between Mormons and fundamentalists.

Most fundamentalists I know would NEVER vote for a Mormon, no matter what came out of his mouth.

Actually, I know the difference quite well. Care to point to anything in this thread that suggests otherwise?

Actually, I know the difference quite well. Care to point to anything in this thread that suggests otherwise?

You seem to be intimating that Romney would appeal to fundamentalists.

Care to explicitly say that he would not?

You seem to be intimating that Romney would appeal to fundamentalists.

Care to explicitly say that he would not?

I'm only intimating that in that chasm you refer to as your mind. My statement about fundamentalists had everything to do with a question about creationism and nothing to do with Romney.

But if it will make you feel better, sure--Romney is highly unpopular among fundamentalists, because most of them look at Mormonism as not part of the Christian tradition.

I still don't see why that would be a bad idea.

7 year marriages? I agree. Why not have the marriage license/contract be a document that has to be renewed every 7 years by consent of both parties? It would help keep a relationship healthy by making the parties think about it and be honest with each other. And think what it would do for wedding chapels, what with all those sentimental but legally not as binding as the signatures re-affirmation ceremonies everyone would want. :)

Another thing that is scary is that his speech would have been written and checked by his staff and himself. To give such a glaringly wrong statement in public really just beggars belief.
Understand -- this was not a mistake by Romney or his writers or any of his staff. This was a deliberate lie told specifically to demonize the French as a target for whipping up the prejudices of Romney's target voters. As Barringtonia pointed out, it's his campaign strategy. I suggest this will be just the first of many remarks that will have sane people scratching their heads but rabid loons shouting "Mittney for Prez!"

Well, it's not like I was even considering voting for Romney...

You seem to be intimating that Romney would appeal to fundamentalists.

Care to explicitly say that he would not?

There is such a thing as fundamentalist Mormons, but aside from that, no, that is not what Nazz was saying. See:

by The Nazz
a middle ground between atheist and batshit-insane fundamentalist.
emphasis added.

He was saying that people who do not want to vote for a batshit-insane fundamentalist might see a Mormon as that middle ground. And well they might, as long as that Mormon isn't Mitt Romney, who has plenty of characteristics that should disqualify him from public service, imo, but none of which are connected to his religion.

There is such a thing as fundamentalist Mormons, but aside from that, no, that is not what Nazz was saying. See:


emphasis added.

He was saying that people who do not want to vote for a batshit-insane fundamentalist might see a Mormon as that middle ground. And well they might, as long as that Mormon isn't Mitt Romney, who has plenty of characteristics that should disqualify him from public service, imo, but none of which are connected to his religion.

To me Mormons are even more insane than the batshit insane fundamentalists...

Well, it's not like I was even considering voting for Romney...
Well, then, luckily for you, Mr. Romney will probably not waste his time with you. The Romney campaign is apparently banking on the hope that there are enough Americans who are so stupid and so bigoted that they would fall for crap like this -- enough at least to put him in office. His cynicism is breathtaking -- even compared to Cheney -- even to me, a die-hard cynic myself. :eek:

To me Mormons are even more insane than the batshit insane fundamentalists...
Oh, I don't know about that, but let's just say, I strongly prefer a secular slant to public life.

But then again, who is even really sure how much of a Mormon Mittney really is? He alternately embraces and denies it, and the Mormon church publicly has little to say about him, even as rich Mormon corporate execs and board directors pump millions into his campaign funds. And yet he gets out on camera and claims his religion is hardly noticeable. I wouldn't be surprised to find he's playing his campaign donors just like the rest of us.

To me Mormons are even more insane than the batshit insane fundamentalists...
Not more insane, but on the same level in the tree.

Oh, I don't know about that, but let's just say, I strongly prefer a secular slant to public life.

But then again, who is even really sure how much of a Mormon Mittney really is? He alternately embraces and denies it, and the Mormon church publicly has little to say about him, even as rich Mormon corporate execs and board directors pump millions into his campaign funds. And yet he gets out on camera and claims his religion is hardly noticeable. I wouldn't be surprised to find he's playing his campaign donors just like the rest of us.

Most Christian fundamentalists I've met (and I go to church with quite a few) have no problem separating the secular from the religious.

You know, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's....

But I haven't met a Mormon who can do that - it's tightly ingrained in their whole life.

C'mon, people - the rest of the world is watching you all like hawks. Tell me you'll all do your utmost to not see another dufus made POTUS.

Please?

Most Christian fundamentalists I've met (and I go to church with quite a few) have no problem separating the secular from the religious.

You know, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's....

But I haven't met a Mormon who can do that - it's tightly ingrained in their whole life.

You must not know many Mormons. I've been around Mormons, and I've been around traditional Protestant Fundies. I'd take the Mormons over the Fundies any day. And it is true that Christian Fundies don't have a problem respecting the government, paying taxes, etc, but most of them do want to dominate the secular government with "good Christian men". In other words, people who will keep the gays from getting married, reverse Roe v. Wade, and keep the Muslims out. Or something of that nature. Mormons do hold similar opinions and take similar actions, but all of the ones I've met seemed to be more concerned with missionary work and conversions and less concerned with politics.

C'mon, people - the rest of the world is watching you all like hawks. Tell me you'll all do your utmost to not see another dufus made POTUS.

Please?

Have no fear, I for one will do my very best to vote for someone at least an intellectual step above dufus.

*nods*

Most Christian fundamentalists I've met (and I go to church with quite a few) have no problem separating the secular from the religious.

Yeah, I don't know where you live, but most fundamentalists I've met, hell, not even fundamentalists but standard Protestants, refuse to create a difference between secular and non-secular.

Most Christian fundamentalists I've met (and I go to church with quite a few) have no problem separating the secular from the religious.

You know, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's....

But I haven't met a Mormon who can do that - it's tightly ingrained in their whole life.
That's a hair I'm not interested in splitting.

A) I don't care what religion a person follows - if they can't leave it at home when they go to work (provided they're not clergy), then, frankly, I have a hard time trusting them. So I'm not interested in which set of fundies is more or less scary than another.

B) The subject of this thread is Romney, not religion in politics, because -- trust me on this -- they are not connected. Leave Mormonism entirely out of the picture and there is still enough about Romney to make him an exceedingly bad candidate.

C'mon, people - the rest of the world is watching you all like hawks. Tell me you'll all do your utmost to not see another dufus made POTUS.

Please?
I'll do my part, but I have to be honest, the way things are going at the moment, I wouldn't advise you to bet against the dufus just yet.

(It's not like Romney's the only one running, you know.)

That's a hair I'm not interested in splitting.

A) I don't care what religion a person follows - if they can't leave it at home when they go to work (provided they're not clergy),

An important caveat, as it would be terribly difficult for those to do so.

"You know, I don't want to tell you all what i believe, not appropriate for the work place."

Who is Mitt Romney and why does that quote make him dumber than a bag of nails?

The better question would be - why do we lend any credence to him and anything he says? He's just not important.

An important caveat, as it would be terribly difficult for those to do so.

"You know, I don't want to tell you all what i believe, not appropriate for the work place."
Well, that would be why I made the distinction. I'm not entirely unreasonable, you know. :p

There is such a thing as fundamentalist Mormons, but aside from that, no, that is not what Nazz was saying. See:


emphasis added.

He was saying that people who do not want to vote for a batshit-insane fundamentalist might see a Mormon as that middle ground. And well they might, as long as that Mormon isn't Mitt Romney, who has plenty of characteristics that should disqualify him from public service, imo, but none of which are connected to his religion.Actually, that's not what I was saying at all. I was replying to a poll answer which has 78% of people in the US saying they believe either in creation or in a creation/evolution hybrid. The hybrid is the middle ground for the people who want to hold onto God but not be batshit insane. Mitt Romney didn't enter into the equation in that comment, which made RO's comment pretty fucking stupid.

Well, it's not like I was even considering voting for Romney...

Nor I...but get a load of this.

There is no work more important to America's future than the work that is done within the four walls of the American home.

That statement ought to scare off any rational voters.

Pornography and violence poison our music and movies and TV and video games. The Virginia Tech shooter, like the Columbine shooters before him, had drunk from this cesspool.

Strike two.

...and, of course, the OP topic. A stupid bash on France.

Strike three.

Actually, that's not what I was saying at all. I was replying to a poll answer which has 78% of people in the US saying they believe either in creation or in a creation/evolution hybrid. The hybrid is the middle ground for the people who want to hold onto God but not be batshit insane. Mitt Romney didn't enter into the equation in that comment, which made RO's comment pretty fucking stupid.

Yes, Nazz was simply saying that the numbers quoted (by me) looked correct - he was saying nothing about Mitt Romney.

I'd simply posted the numbers to say that no matter how weird Mitt Romney is, there's plenty weirder running for the GOP nomination. I then put those figures there to point out that it's not as if they aren't appealing to the voter base.

Anyway...