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Ok, so I thought up of this experiment to test out on this forum (for funies) and to also see how people react to a visual simulation. However, before I propose the scenario, I will lay down some ground rules.

1. Be honest, don't try to be 'neutral' or PC, just be honest in here and honest with yourself.
2. Don't read too much into this, this is just an experiment, and the three examples only have the message that I present, there is no 'hidden message', so don't look for one.
3. Be respectful and well have fun.

Scenario:

You are driving along, and as you are driving, you see a bumper sticker, and it simply states "Hispanic Pride". You drive some more and then you come upon another bumper sticker that just simply states "Black Pride". Finally you pull into a parking lot, and the car next to you has a bumper sticker that simply states "White Pride".

Now here's the question, what is your immediate reaction when you see the:

A: Hispanic Pride bumper sticker

B: Black Pride bumper sticker

C: White Pride bumper sticker.

Like I said, be honest (brutally), don't read too much into this, and be respectful and have fun.

All humans should divide up into what groups they are in and declare all out war at once so this snit ends! :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper:

Hispanic and Black Pride stickers: Sucks to define yourself by your race
White Pride sticker: Sucks to be a racist.


:(

A: Hispanic Pride bumper sticker


Eh.


B: Black Pride bumper sticker


Whatever.


C: White Pride bumper sticker.


It's nice to see someone who's not ashamed to admit it's okay to be proud of being white.

Now, replace "Pride" with "Power" and I'm going to be a little more irritated.

Hispanic and Black Pride stickers: Sucks to define yourself by your race
White Pride sticker: Sucks to be a racist.


:(

So...how is being proud of being Hispanic or Black not racist, but being proud of being white is?

I won't be seeing any those here in Poland, where race is not synonymous with skin colour. Therefore, you can't really say what the "reaction" is. However, my money is on somethig like "whatever" for all of them.

Also, I don't drive.

Hispanic and Black Pride stickers: Sucks to define yourself by your race
White Pride sticker: Sucks to be a racist.


:(

Now why is the White Pride sticker racist, but the Hispanic and Black Pride isn't?

Now why is the White Pride sticker racist, but the Hispanic and Black Pride isn't?

Societal double standard. I said the same thing.

A - Tequila

B - Malt Whiskey

C - Jack Daniels

A - Tequila

B - Malt Whiskey

C - Jack Daniels

Best. Alcohol-Related. Racism. Ever.

So...how is being proud of being Hispanic or Black not racist, but being proud of being white is?

Because there is no reason to start celebrating your white pride since white people were never seen as lesser beings in western nations. The only reason anyone would ever have that bumper sticker would be because they are a white supremacist.

A: eh? here?
B: *shrug*
C: Come on, this is getting ridiculous!

1) must.eat.burrito rrrrr

2) oh great black panthers saying I'm exploiting them...wheres the rap music?

3) his cars not gonna last long is it...and wheres the rap music?

the thing that would be most on my mind though is that I can't drive and why the hell am I looking at someone's bumper

All humans should divide up into what groups they are in and declare all out war at once so this snit ends! :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper:

you have far to many posts to use gun smilies. Why do have them in this post.

My answer to all three if I'm thinking about it: "Since when do people need to put bumper stickers on their car proclaiming pride in some race?"

My answer to all three if I'm not thinking about it: "Oh, look, another boring bumper sticker."

Best. Alcohol-Related. Racism. Ever.

I'm going to make the assumption that anyone who plants that sticker on their bumber may also carry a bottle behind the wheel.

Because there is no reason to start celebrating your white pride since white people were never seen as lesser beings in western nations. The only reason anyone would ever have that bumper sticker would be because they are a white supremacist.

Yea, but isn't that a double standard? I mean Hispanics and Blacks can have pride because they've overcame alot of things, but whites can't because they were never a 'lesser' being in the western world? Are we forgetting the 1900's immigrations of whites to America and the things that they had to go though?

Ok, so I thought up of this experiment to test out on this forum (for funies) and to also see how people react to a visual simulation. However, before I propose the scenario, I will lay down some ground rules.

1. Be honest, don't try to be 'neutral' or PC, just be honest in here and honest with yourself.
2. Don't read too much into this, this is just an experiment, and the three examples only have the message that I present, there is no 'hidden message', so don't look for one.
3. Be respectful and well have fun.

Scenario:

You are driving along, and as you are driving, you see a bumper sticker, and it simply states "Hispanic Pride". You drive some more and then you come upon another bumper sticker that just simply states "Black Pride". Finally you pull into a parking lot, and the car next to you has a bumper sticker that simply states "White Pride".

Now here's the question, what is your immediate reaction when you see the:

A: Hispanic Pride bumper sticker

B: Black Pride bumper sticker

C: White Pride bumper sticker.

Like I said, be honest (brutally), don't read too much into this, and be respectful and have fun.


Oh, for fuck sake, get over yourself.
Seriously, I don't care.
Christ, give it a break.

Now why is the White Pride sticker racist, but the Hispanic and Black Pride isn't?

The sticker isn't racist. The person who put it there probably is.

The sticker isn't racist. The person who put it there probably is.

what if the driver isn't white?

Yea, but isn't that a double standard?

No


I mean Hispanics and Blacks can have pride because they've overcame alot of things, but whites can't because they were never a 'lesser' being in the western world?

They can if they want, but the only reason would be for white supremacist reasons. The whole point of this *blank* pride thing is to say "i'm proud of who I am, you can't opress me any more", but since whites arn't being opressed theres no need for 'white pride'.


Are we forgetting the 1900's immigrations of whites to America and the things that they had to go though?

But they weren't opressed simply for being white.

Not to irritate anyone, but aren't the irish still counted as being white?

So...how is being proud of being Hispanic or Black not racist, but being proud of being white is?
It's all about power and context. Since Wilgrove is from the US, I'm assuming he's talking about US roads and cars. Hispanics and Blacks are minorities who are still subjected to discrimination and racism on a daily basis. Their "pride" is based around an attempt to band together and gather strength from one another.

It's not the same if you're white in the US--there is no single greater advantage to starting your life in the US than being white, and if you're a white male, you're more likely to earn more than the median over the course of your lifetime than any other gender/ethnic group. White males aren't as dominant as they were 30 years ago, but they're still topdogs. So saying you're proud of being white is essentially the same as saying you're proud of being the ones in power and being the oppressors. You may not mean it that way, but that's the context in which that term exists, and that's how it's going to be taken.

Irish ancestry didn't do so well for their first stint in america, and no one dons a white hood for St. patrick's day.

what if the driver isn't white?

Have you ever heard of a black person who was proud of being white?

Have you ever heard of a black person who was proud of being white?

no, but maybe one would place it there as a joke.

Scenario:

You are driving along, and as you are driving, you see a bumper sticker, and it simply states "Hispanic Pride". You drive some more and then you come upon another bumper sticker that just simply states "Black Pride". Finally you pull into a parking lot, and the car next to you has a bumper sticker that simply states "White Pride".

Now here's the question, what is your immediate reaction when you see the:

A: Hispanic Pride bumper sticker

B: Black Pride bumper sticker

C: White Pride bumper sticker.

Like I said, be honest (brutally), don't read too much into this, and be respectful and have fun.

First I wonder why the hell I'm driving somebody's car, 'cause I don't drive and I don't own a car. Then I wonder where the hell I am, what with these 'Pride' bumper stickers I keep seeing. And lastly, just when I'm drifting off to sleep later on that night, it will occur to me that the bumper stickers had something to do with ethnicity, and not homosexuality as I'd originally thought.

It's all about power and context. Since Wilgrove is from the US, I'm assuming he's talking about US roads and cars. Hispanics and Blacks are minorities who are still subjected to discrimination and racism on a daily basis. Their "pride" is based around an attempt to band together and gather strength from one another.

It's not the same if you're white in the US--there is no single greater advantage to starting your life in the US than being white, and if you're a white male, you're more likely to earn more than the median over the course of your lifetime than any other gender/ethnic group. White males aren't as dominant as they were 30 years ago, but they're still topdogs. So saying you're proud of being white is essentially the same as saying you're proud of being the ones in power and being the oppressors. You may not mean it that way, but that's the context in which that term exists, and that's how it's going to be taken.

So what if they DO mean it that way? Since all of these ____ pride sayings goes to do is separate a group of people from the population and in one way, shape, or form elevate it (even in the context of support or unity) does situation condone whether it's the black panthers or the KKK?

Ok, so I thought up of this experiment to test out on this forum (for funies) and to also see how people react to a visual simulation. However, before I propose the scenario, I will lay down some ground rules.

1. Be honest, don't try to be 'neutral' or PC, just be honest in here and honest with yourself.
2. Don't read too much into this, this is just an experiment, and the three examples only have the message that I present, there is no 'hidden message', so don't look for one.
3. Be respectful and well have fun.

Scenario:

You are driving along, and as you are driving, you see a bumper sticker, and it simply states "Hispanic Pride". You drive some more and then you come upon another bumper sticker that just simply states "Black Pride". Finally you pull into a parking lot, and the car next to you has a bumper sticker that simply states "White Pride".

Now here's the question, what is your immediate reaction when you see the:

A: Hispanic Pride bumper sticker

B: Black Pride bumper sticker

C: White Pride bumper sticker.

Like I said, be honest (brutally), don't read too much into this, and be respectful and have fun.

A: Meh.

B: Meh.

C: Meh.

Then I'll get thinking that maybe I should buy a Gay Pride bumper sticker.

So what if they DO mean it that way? Since all of these ____ pride sayings goes to do is separate a group of people from the population and in one way, shape, or form elevate it (even in the context of support or unity) does situation condone whether it's the black panthers or the KKK?

Context is everything. If you're a member of a minority, having pride in your ethnicity is a way of trying to bind yourself with others like yourself in what is often a hostile environment. It's not a symbol of oppression--it's the opposite.

A: Hispanic Pride bumper sticker
Boring bumper sticker.

B: Black Pride bumper sticker
Huh, weird coinkeydink.

C: White Pride bumper sticker.
Hmm, once is an ancient, twice is coincidence, but third time is enemy action. (Starts going into paranoid mode) The pride stickers are attacking! The pride stickers are attacking!

Honestly, I probably wouldn't think anything of the above stickers unless they were interesting enough to attract my attention.

People act like it's not acceptable to be proud of being white. Just because your ancestors fucked up doesn't mean you have to be ashamed of your skin color. Should we tell blacks it's unacceptable to be proud of their race because other blacks sold their ancestors into slavery (Or at least that's how most U.S. native blacks got here)?

I would be curious as to how the first two got onto a course, and why they were allowed to vandalise their golf buggies.

Seriously, to those crying about double standards. You can't just ignore the context they exist in, that is fucking stupid and dishonest. The first two are fine because, as stated, they are minorities which still face abuse and racism. Banding together is a natural, though not necessarily healthy, way to overcome this. Without any context other than being a bumper-sticker, the third would imply to me that the driver is a racist just as someone with a personalised licence plate reading "homerun" would imply a baseball fan.

People act like it's not acceptable to be proud of being white. Just because your ancestors fucked up doesn't mean you have to be ashamed of your skin color. Should we tell blacks it's unacceptable to be proud of their race because other blacks sold their ancestors into slavery (Or at least that's how most U.S. native blacks got here)?

Are white people in the US heavily discriminated against? Do they feel the need to band together to fight unjust treatment in the media, in the government, in the social strata of everyday life? No one is saying that you have to be ashamed of being white--I'm certainly not--I just don't see a reason to be proud of my whiteness or to band together with other honkies in order to express said pride in my skin color. If I lived in a country where being white was a handicap, where I was an oppressed minority, I might feel differently.

All humans should divide up into what groups they are in and declare all out war at once so this snit ends! :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper:

Excellent. :rolleyes:

1) :rolleyes: Another one jumping on the bandwagon. How oriiiiginallll.

2) Blasted black racist, who'll use the "it's cuz we're oppressed" excuse for his sticker. But if a white person comes into some place this guy has influence, then the racism will be plain, and it won't be coming from the white guy.

3) Blast it. A Neo-Nazi. If I asked this guy about that sticker, he'd say, "we shouldn't be ashamed to be white," which is true on the surface...but poke around a bit and he'll start with some stupid stuff like "let's ship everyone back where they came from!!" (and blindly ignoring the fact that he's no Native either) or worse. Makes me mad because there can be a decent veneer of intelligence, but right underneath that is a whole swamp of stupid.

In my experience, all the ones who take "pride" in their ethnicity in the bumper-sticker-posting sort of way are racists.

Also, it's interesting to note how I never seem to see such things in areas where the one with the sticker would be the minority. No Dixie flags flying in downtown Detroit...no "black pride" stuff to be seen in the outer suburbs. These types only seem to be so "proud" on their home turf...cowardice much?

A: Hispanic Pride bumper sticker

B: Black Pride bumper sticker

C: White Pride bumper sticker.



A. 5 de Mayo
B. Eh..?
C. ookay..

A: Good for them!

B: A tiny bit worried/guilty.

C: Scared and angry.

I was honest, make of it what you will...

I was honest, make of it what you will...

*reads sig*
What I make of that post is...
sexy.

lol

A-I'd like to ram them or something.
B-Nothing
C-WTF

Gut reaction:

(if in NYC)
A: Eh, seen it (or something like it)
B: Eh, seen it (or something like it)
C: Really? And the car hasn't been vandalized/destroyed? Damn tourists.

(if upstate)
A: Really? Up here?
B: Really? Up here?
C: Damn Rednecks.

Hispanic--OK
Black--the wheels of subliminal implicit bias start turning against my will!
White--asshole

*reads sig*
What I make of that post is...
sexy.

Hey, sweet! I guess that contest did help me out in life...:D

A: Heh. Groupthinking fools.
B: Meh. Groupthinking fools.
C: Groupthinking fools.

The somewhat increasing strength of the reaction depending of the quantity of the "quality" that comes to mind.

I'd wonder why all three of them are so tacky as to mar their car with crappy stickers that invariably fade and peel.

A: Probably an illegal immigrant...
B: Probably a black panther...
C: Probably a nazi...

A. Passes car to see who the driver is
B. Passes car to see who the driver is
C. Passes car to see who the driver is...oh, it's my friend being an asshole

:rolleyes:

The response to the implicit cry of "reverse racism/double standards!" is so mind-numbingly obvious that it's almost not even worth stating.

A. I better follow him to see where he lives so I can bomb his house later
B. Dammit, another, I can't follow both at the same time
C. Ahh, problem solved.

A. Lame

B. Lame

C. What the heck is "White Pride?"

On a side note, bumper stickers are generally pretty lame.

Ok, so I thought up of this experiment to test out on this forum (for funies) and to also see how people react to a visual simulation. However, before I propose the scenario, I will lay down some ground rules.

1. Be honest, don't try to be 'neutral' or PC, just be honest in here and honest with yourself.
2. Don't read too much into this, this is just an experiment, and the three examples only have the message that I present, there is no 'hidden message', so don't look for one.
3. Be respectful and well have fun.

Scenario:

You are driving along, and as you are driving, you see a bumper sticker, and it simply states "Hispanic Pride". You drive some more and then you come upon another bumper sticker that just simply states "Black Pride". Finally you pull into a parking lot, and the car next to you has a bumper sticker that simply states "White Pride".

Now here's the question, what is your immediate reaction when you see the:

A: Hispanic Pride bumper sticker

B: Black Pride bumper sticker

C: White Pride bumper sticker.

Like I said, be honest (brutally), don't read too much into this, and be respectful and have fun.

A: boring
B: aggressive
C: retarded

A: Hispanic Pride bumper sticker

B: Black Pride bumper sticker

C: White Pride bumper sticker.

A: nothing

B: nothing

C: nothing

I would have to say that my honest and immediate reactions (to be later moderated by the kicking-in of a tad more higher-brain function) would be a roll of the eyes, another roll of the eyes, and probably a third role of the eyes with a bit more of a disdainful scowl than in the first two cases.

I'm inclined to think that this is probably just because I've met a lot more white racists than any other sort, and have spent more time trying to deal with or avoid the feckers. And that's probably just because I've met a lot more white people than I have others.

Oh, also, I'd probably then go off on a mental wander through, "Hm, so the Hispanic guy didn't think of himself as white?.." and such uselessness.

Pride, power, it's all the same shite.

(Sorry, but I'm meeting a real avalanche of low-level racism since I got to Australia, and I've less and less time for anything even approaching it, even if it's veiled in, 'pride'. Not racism directed at my Celtic-descended self, I hasten to add... in fact I was half way to being offered sponsorship (towards citizenship) simply for being British and markedly not black or Asian!)

Now here's the question, what is your immediate reaction when you see the:

A: Hispanic Pride bumper sticker

B: Black Pride bumper sticker

C: White Pride bumper sticker.

A: Stupid
B: Stupid
C: Stupid

O jeez, more politics by bumper sticker. Let's have more stupid slogans and less actual thinking.

Black Pride: Must be NAACP (A coupe of my Afro-merican friends and aquaintances are certain it means Niggers Against Any Color People)

Hispanic Pride: Good for you Paco... (aka, who gives?)

White Pride: Oh look, another Klan member.

And on another note.. I really like those bumber stickers that say - 'Proud parent of the boy who knocked up your honor role student'. Those are funny.

I'd be surprised to see any of them in NI.

So that's my reaction to them all; surprise.

really can't tell you as bumper stickers are not a thing here

Seriously, to those crying about double standards. You can't just ignore the context they exist in, that is fucking stupid and dishonest. The first two are fine because, as stated, they are minorities which still face abuse and racism. Banding together is a natural, though not necessarily healthy, way to overcome this. Without any context other than being a bumper-sticker, the third would imply to me that the driver is a racist just as someone with a personalised licence plate reading "homerun" would imply a baseball fan.

Exactly. As The Nazz has explained at length, there is a history and context to be considered here.

I would react differently to the third bumper sticker because it's slogan has a different history and has a different contextual meaning than the first two slogans.

Black Pride: Must be NAACP (A coupe of my Afro-merican friends and aquaintances are certain it means Niggers Against Any Color People)


So you have African-American friends that are as ignorant and backwards as you are? How special.

The NAACP is a fine, long-standing institution that has accomplished more for the equality of all people than almost any other group in the U.S. Or was Brown v. Board of Education a bad thing?

So you have African-American friends that are as ignorant and backwards as you are? How special.

The NAACP is a fine, long-standing institution that has accomplished more for the equality of all people than almost any other group in the U.S. Or was Brown v. Board of Education a bad thing?

They've done some fine things, they have also proven themselves to be as single minded and obnoxious as any other group on the planet.

I'll give an example... they treid to sue the city I live in to changing the name of a local strip of interstate from Raymon P. Schafer Highway (A man who grew up in the town and became governer of the state for 2 terms) to George Washington Carver Highway (A man who has no historical significance worth noting anywhere in Pennsylvania). The reasononing? My town didn't have enough represnetation of the African American population! That is extremely obnoxious, or am I just hyper sensitive?

Other things they've done that has grossly twisted my obviously biased opinion of this organization and its members...

Protested people's rights of expression by saying that hanging a confederate battle flag outside your house is wrong because its offensive and racist. What the fuck does a flag have anything to do with racism?

Supported people who brought lawsuits on other people just because someone who lived over 100 years ago owned someone in their family as a slave and was related to them by helping them recieve legal counsil. That's pretty damn obnoxious too! Or once again, I'm just a hypersensitive asshat.

Those things in my opinion tend to smear some bad onto all the good they do, and at the same time make the entire 'Black Race' look bad. Hell as far as I'm concerned humans are humans whether black white, tan, blue, green, or whatever color you can think of. But by deliberatly being obnoxious and trying to force things on people that are just plain assinine they are doing more to harm then help... Niggers Against Any Colored People They have gone beyond equality and are attempting to get superiority, just the same as many of these fem nazi women's rights groups.

All human interest groups need to either go away or stop including stupid people. Its a hell of an ignorant step to go from Brown vs. The Board of education and ending school segragation to telling people they can't name a highway as they want, or wave a confederate flag... therefore incringing on the rights they hold oh so dear.

So if I'm an ignorant and backward person because I don't support one group trying to gain dominance over another I guess I have to rethink my life and join a suitable group such as the KKK. <--- That is ignorant and backward.
I suppose I will have to cut my ties with several of my freinds because they aren't white, and tell my freind Ebbonie I can't be there when she has her baby because I'm suddenly a racist prick for putting something freinds said that I found amusing on a web forum where there are certainly people far more bigoted and spiteful than myself.

Ok, so I thought up of this experiment to test out on this forum (for funies) and to also see how people react to a visual simulation. However, before I propose the scenario, I will lay down some ground rules.

1. Be honest, don't try to be 'neutral' or PC, just be honest in here and honest with yourself.
2. Don't read too much into this, this is just an experiment, and the three examples only have the message that I present, there is no 'hidden message', so don't look for one.
3. Be respectful and well have fun.

Scenario:

You are driving along, and as you are driving, you see a bumper sticker, and it simply states "Hispanic Pride". You drive some more and then you come upon another bumper sticker that just simply states "Black Pride". Finally you pull into a parking lot, and the car next to you has a bumper sticker that simply states "White Pride".

Now here's the question, what is your immediate reaction when you see the:

A: Hispanic Pride bumper sticker

B: Black Pride bumper sticker

C: White Pride bumper sticker.

Like I said, be honest (brutally), don't read too much into this, and be respectful and have fun.

A: "Here we go again..."
B: "Typical...
C: "HAHAHA!!"

It's all about power and context. Since Wilgrove is from the US, I'm assuming he's talking about US roads and cars. Hispanics and Blacks are minorities who are still subjected to discrimination and racism on a daily basis. Their "pride" is based around an attempt to band together and gather strength from one another.

It's not the same if you're white in the US--there is no single greater advantage to starting your life in the US than being white, and if you're a white male, you're more likely to earn more than the median over the course of your lifetime than any other gender/ethnic group. White males aren't as dominant as they were 30 years ago, but they're still topdogs. So saying you're proud of being white is essentially the same as saying you're proud of being the ones in power and being the oppressors. You may not mean it that way, but that's the context in which that term exists, and that's how it's going to be taken.

You sir, don't know what you are talking about. It is no longer an advantage to be white, as if you don't let a minority rent from you, you're called racist. You can't get welfare, or grants as easiliy. Trust me, it's no longer easier to be white in America, and I might go so far as to say it's easier to be a minority.

Are white people in the US heavily discriminated against? Do they feel the need to band together to fight unjust treatment in the media, in the government, in the social strata of everyday life?

YES to both in California.

Ok, so I thought up of this experiment to test out on this forum (for funies) and to also see how people react to a visual simulation. However, before I propose the scenario, I will lay down some ground rules.

1. Be honest, don't try to be 'neutral' or PC, just be honest in here and honest with yourself.
2. Don't read too much into this, this is just an experiment, and the three examples only have the message that I present, there is no 'hidden message', so don't look for one.
3. Be respectful and well have fun.

Scenario:

You are driving along, and as you are driving, you see a bumper sticker, and it simply states "Hispanic Pride". You drive some more and then you come upon another bumper sticker that just simply states "Black Pride". Finally you pull into a parking lot, and the car next to you has a bumper sticker that simply states "White Pride".

Now here's the question, what is your immediate reaction when you see the:

A: Hispanic Pride bumper sticker

B: Black Pride bumper sticker

C: White Pride bumper sticker.

Like I said, be honest (brutally), don't read too much into this, and be respectful and have fun.

I say crawl back under the rock that you came from...ill give you three other options that you can choose...

A) Yes I want to be an extra in deliverance...yes I can play the banjo...and yes I did have sex with my mother...grandparents and any other siblings that were able to combat their disabilitating inbred mutations

B) Yes I want to live in a world where racial predjudice is not only ignored...it is neutralised through hunts...similar to those conducted on various ethnic minorities throughout the ages...like big game hunts...a dozen or so pillowheads(KKK), nazis, or others of your kind under another banner are let loose into the african plains where they are hunted...their teeth pulled out...and turned into ivory toilets for those of sound mind to take regular dumps in...

C) Yes I am wrong and you are right...years of being brainwashed from generation to generation thinking it is the colour of my skin...and not the social depravation inflicted on my kind that makes me the subject of every eye in the sky police programme that ever existed...that drugs were pumped into my communities by governments wishing to control my actions...


pick a card...any card

Hispanic Pride: *shrugs shoulders*

Black Pride: Goddam Black Panthers...go away.

White Pride: Goddam Nazis...go away.

1. Make me a burrito

2. Make me some soul food

3. GIVE ME BACK MY LAND DAMMIT!!

They've done some fine things, they have also proven themselves to be as single minded and obnoxious as any other group on the planet.

I'll give an example... they treid to sue the city I live in to changing the name of a local strip of interstate from Raymon P. Schafer Highway (A man who grew up in the town and became governer of the state for 2 terms) to George Washington Carver Highway (A man who has no historical significance worth noting anywhere in Pennsylvania). The reasononing? My town didn't have enough represnetation of the African American population! That is extremely obnoxious, or am I just hyper sensitive... yackity yack...

How come people always run off and hide after insulting me when I try to defend myself?

No real point me saying anything but:
1 stupid but original
2 stupid but defensive
3 stupid and offensive

Why be proud of how much melanin pigment you have?

Also, I do not want to ever drive a car.

Hispanic pride: I would think 'cool!' But I'm partial to latinos.

Black pride: I would think: 'that's funny, I just saw a Hispanic pride bumper sticker. I guess this amounts to the same thing'
But since I don't feel partial to black people, I wouldn't think it's cool. It wouldn't really affect me, to be honest.

White pride: I would think: 'I wonder if that guy's racist, but I'm being a bit of a hypocrite because I didn't think that about the other two bumper stickers.' And then I would spend some time thinking about what this reveals about my own prejudices.

YES to both in California.

I've lived in California my entire life and I can tell you that that is not true.

You sir, don't know what you are talking about. It is no longer an advantage to be white, as if you don't let a minority rent from you, you're called racist. You can't get welfare, or grants as easiliy. Trust me, it's no longer easier to be white in America, and I might go so far as to say it's easier to be a minority.

*points and laughs*

HA! Hahaha! You joke! Funny, funny jokes! Aaah...hehe..."easier to be a minority" *snicker*

Scenario:

You are driving along, and as you are driving, you see a bumper sticker, and it simply states "Hispanic Pride". You drive some more and then you come upon another bumper sticker that just simply states "Black Pride". Finally you pull into a parking lot, and the car next to you has a bumper sticker that simply states "White Pride".

Now here's the question, what is your immediate reaction when you see the:

A: Hispanic Pride bumper sticker

B: Black Pride bumper sticker

C: White Pride bumper sticker.

Like I said, be honest (brutally), don't read too much into this, and be respectful and have fun.


A: driver is hispanic

B: driver is black

C: driver is an asshole.

*points and laughs*

HA! Hahaha! You joke! Funny, funny jokes! Aaah...hehe..."easier to be a minority" *snicker*

I suppose you don't know this, but many companies are forced to employ minorities over whites in certain cases to get quotas filled. The very way you all feel about these bumper stickers shows, whether you're white or not, that you are prejudiced against them. The fact that if you say something against whites on stage no-one cares, but if you say something against a minority everyone shouts "BOO!" is a telling fact. Minorities get a BIG helping hand in America. The fact that blacks get a month of their own where all other race's history is excluded, but the same courtesy isn't offered to white tells about how America feels over-protective of minorities. If you don't like some-one and they happen to be black, you're taught to feel guilty. It's ridiculas. On all the adds for college aid, minorities are almost always dipicted. GET OVER IT PEOPLE! We are living in the 21st century!!!

I suppose you don't know this, but many companies are forced to employ minorities over whites in certain cases to get quotas filled. The very way you all feel about these bumper stickers shows, whether you're white or not, that you are prejudiced against them. The fact that if you say something against whites on stage no-one cares, but if you say something against a minority everyone shouts "BOO!" is a telling fact. Minorities get a BIG helping hand in America. The fact that blacks get a month of their own where all other race's history is excluded, but the same courtesy isn't offered to white tells about how America feels over-protective of minorities. If you don't like some-one and they happen to be black, you're taught to feel guilty. It's ridiculas. On all the adds for college aid, minorities are almost always dipicted. GET OVER IT PEOPLE! We are living in the 21st century!!!

If you think that whites have less rights than minority races in america then your IQ is the same as your shoesize :rolleyes:

If you think that whites have less rights than minority races in america then your IQ is the same as your shoesize :rolleyes:

Why? Where do you get the idea whites have an easier time? Your life is not made if you're white, but if you fail as minority then you have an easy excuse.

I suppose you don't know this, but many companies are forced to employ minorities over whites in certain cases to get quotas filled. The very way you all feel about these bumper stickers shows, whether you're white or not, that you are prejudiced against them. The fact that if you say something against whites on stage no-one cares, but if you say something against a minority everyone shouts "BOO!" is a telling fact. Minorities get a BIG helping hand in America. The fact that blacks get a month of their own where all other race's history is excluded, but the same courtesy isn't offered to white tells about how America feels over-protective of minorities. If you don't like some-one and they happen to be black, you're taught to feel guilty. It's ridiculas. On all the adds for college aid, minorities are almost always dipicted. GET OVER IT PEOPLE! We are living in the 21st century!!!

Hehe. and, where did you see my opinion on these stickers? Hmm? Care to point it out?

Oh, oh, but we can tell jokes about white people! We've got a history month! How could white people go without a history month? It's so much better being black, you're right. *snicker*

How come people always run off and hide after insulting me when I try to defend myself?

:rolleyes:

Don't flatter yourself. No one ran off and hid. Some of us have lives outside NSG and don't hang around to respond to every asnine and offensive bit of tripe you post.

I'll get back to your rantings in time.

You sir, don't know what you are talking about. It is no longer an advantage to be white, as if you don't let a minority rent from you, you're called racist. You can't get welfare, or grants as easiliy. Trust me, it's no longer easier to be white in America, and I might go so far as to say it's easier to be a minority.

You, sir, are full of bullshit.

I'd love to see you point to an economic indicator (unemployment rates, poverty rates, etc) where whites are disadvantaged.

And if you refuse to rent to minorities because of their race, you are a racist. :headbang:

I suppose you don't know this, but many companies are forced to employ minorities over whites in certain cases to get quotas filled.

No. No they aren't. I supporse you don't know this, but such quotas are generally illegal and are therefore mostly fictional.

The very way you all feel about these bumper stickers shows, whether you're white or not, that you are prejudiced against them. The fact that if you say something against whites on stage no-one cares, but if you say something against a minority everyone shouts "BOO!" is a telling fact. Minorities get a BIG helping hand in America. The fact that blacks get a month of their own where all other race's history is excluded, but the same courtesy isn't offered to white tells about how America feels over-protective of minorities. If you don't like some-one and they happen to be black, you're taught to feel guilty. It's ridiculas. On all the adds for college aid, minorities are almost always dipicted. GET OVER IT PEOPLE! We are living in the 21st century!!!

Waaaa! I can't say "******, ******, ******" on-stage without getting criticized. We only teach white history 11 months a year. I'm economically and socially advantaged, but I'm so oppressed!

They've done some fine things, they have also proven themselves to be as single minded and obnoxious as any other group on the planet.

The NAACP is a human institution. Thus it has human failings. I never said they were perfect.

But nothing the NAACP has ever done justifies calling them Niggers.

I'll give an example... they treid to sue the city I live in to changing the name of a local strip of interstate from Raymon P. Schafer Highway (A man who grew up in the town and became governer of the state for 2 terms) to George Washington Carver Highway (A man who has no historical significance worth noting anywhere in Pennsylvania). The reasononing? My town didn't have enough represnetation of the African American population! That is extremely obnoxious, or am I just hyper sensitive?

1. Oh, no! Those darkies tried to change the name of a highway. Next they'll be comin' for our womin!

2. Seriously, is this the biggest complaint you can come up with? Sure if the facts were as you state them (which is a very big if), the NAACP was being mildly obnoxious.

3. But I'd prefer you provide a link or some other verification of your assertions.

Other things they've done that has grossly twisted my obviously biased opinion of this organization and its members...

Protested people's rights of expression by saying that hanging a confederate battle flag outside your house is wrong because its offensive and racist. What the fuck does a flag have anything to do with racism?

1. Um. Let's see: The Battle Flag of the Confederacy is a symbol of the Confederacy. The cornerstone of the Confederacy was racist slavery. What could being a symbol of racist slavery have to do with anything racist?

2. You don't seem to understand freedom of expression. If you have a right to fly a racist flag, then others have the right to protest said flag. See how that works?

Supported people who brought lawsuits on other people just because someone who lived over 100 years ago owned someone in their family as a slave and was related to them by helping them recieve legal counsil. That's pretty damn obnoxious too! Or once again, I'm just a hypersensitive asshat.

I'd say your version of events here is inaccurate. Why not give us some actual facts?

Regardless, helping someone receive legal counsel for a lawsuit is hardly a grevious offense.

Those things in my opinion tend to smear some bad onto all the good they do, and at the same time make the entire 'Black Race' look bad.

Those minor things are enough to ruin all the good the NAACP has done?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you are of that ignorant mindset that judges "the entire 'Black Race'" on the basis of the actions of one advocacy group.

Hell as far as I'm concerned humans are humans whether black white, tan, blue, green, or whatever color you can think of. But by deliberatly being obnoxious and trying to force things on people that are just plain assinine they are doing more to harm then help... Niggers Against Any Colored People They have gone beyond equality and are attempting to get superiority, just the same as many of these fem nazi women's rights groups.

1. Yeah, you throw around terms like Niggers Against Any Colored People and you show contempt for "the entire 'Black Race'", but to you "humans are humans." :rolleyes:

2. Nothing you have pointed to -- and nothing you can point to -- shows that the NAACP are seeking superiorty rather than equality.

All human interest groups need to either go away or stop including stupid people.

Human institutions should not have any humans, because humans can make mistakes. :headbang:

Its a hell of an ignorant step to go from Brown vs. The Board of education and ending school segragation to telling people they can't name a highway as they want, or wave a confederate flag... therefore incringing on the rights they hold oh so dear.

1. It is a hell of ignorant step to go from the picayune criticisms you raise to calling the group largely responsible for ending school segregation a bunch of Niggers.

2. Again, you don't seem to understand the "rights" you are complaining about being infringed. It doesn't infringe anyone's rights to rename a highway. It doesn't infringe anyone's rights to protest a racist flag.

So if I'm an ignorant and backward person because I don't support one group trying to gain dominance over another I guess I have to rethink my life and join a suitable group such as the KKK. <--- That is ignorant and backward.
I suppose I will have to cut my ties with several of my freinds because they aren't white, and tell my freind Ebbonie I can't be there when she has her baby because I'm suddenly a racist prick for putting something freinds said that I found amusing on a web forum where there are certainly people far more bigoted and spiteful than myself.

Methinks thou dost protest too much. I think I hit a nerve.

We only teach white history 11 months a year. I'm economically and socially advantaged, but I'm so oppressed!

Where do you get-off on the idea that "regular" monthes are only for whites? Is it that you think whites are "regular"? Nooo, those monthes teach all history. They don't exclude Martin Luther King Jr. on those days, or any other blacks for that matter.

You sir, don't know what you are talking about. It is no longer an advantage to be white, as if you don't let a minority rent from you, you're called racist. You can't get welfare, or grants as easiliy. Trust me, it's no longer easier to be white in America, and I might go so far as to say it's easier to be a minority.

You, sir, are full of bullshit.

I'd love to see you point to an economic indicator (unemployment rates, poverty rates, etc) where whites are disadvantaged.

And if you refuse to rent to minorities because of their race, you are a racist. :headbang:
Thank you Cat-Tribe. I don't know why, Parkus Empire, that you're so outraged by this concept that white people still have tremendous advantages in the US, but the numbers don't lie. I'm not saying that being a white male confers the same advantages it did back in 1965, but it still confers great advantages, and your statement that it's easier to be a minority today is the worst kind of ignorance.

Where do you get-off on the idea that "regular" monthes are only for whites? Is it that you think whites are "regular"? Nooo, those monthes teach all history. They don't exclude Martin Luther King Jr. on those days, or any other blacks for that matter.

They're not "only for whites," but let's be real here--history classes in the US are still heavily Euro-centric and US history classes barely graze the stories of Native Americans, former slaves, Asians, Spanish, and other non-white groups. Why do you think Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" was so groundbreaking? Because it told stories most history students hadn't heard before, much less the average reader.

Thank you Cat-Tribe. I don't know why, Parkus Empire, that you're so outraged by this concept that white people still have tremendous advantages in the US, but the numbers don't lie. I'm not saying that being a white male confers the same advantages it did back in 1965, but it still confers great advantages, and your statement that it's easier to be a minority today is the worst kind of ignorance.

Well, just because fewer blacks have jobs doesn't mean they're favoured. They recive oodles of welfare. And I don't want to sound to racist but...that's like blaming the whites for overall lower black I.Q.

Well, just because fewer blacks have jobs doesn't mean they're favoured. They recive oodles of welfare. And I don't want to sound to racist but...that's like blaming the whites for overall lower black I.Q.Jesus effing Christ man--white people receive tons more welfare than blacks do in terms of real dollars, and we haven't even gotten into shit like corporate welfare and farm subsidies and the like. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's pretty clear that you hold some very majorly racist opinions and beliefs.

Why? Where do you get the idea whites have an easier time? Your life is not made if you're white, but if you fail as minority then you have an easy excuse.

Not to be pedantic, but an 'excuse' isn't worth much. I had an excuse for why I didn't pick up my van Friday, but that excuse didn't give me a van to drive all weekend. If your argument is that they have 'an excuse' (which is weak on its own) then it's pretty lacking.

I won't say that it's hard to be a white male in America, because it's not true. But it certainly has become something of a minefield: cross the wrong woman, or the wrong minority (term used for convenience) and you're a racist/sexist/whathaveyou. Does it happen? Yes. Often? Certainly not.

There are a few things you can't argue with though: it's much harder for a man to get custody of children in a divorce, courts are much more likely to side with the mother, also we've become something of the "safe" target. It's okay to make fun of us, but not anyone else. I just don't believe that's fair or helpful to the cause of minority groups. It just creates an Us vs. Them barrier.

To me, it seems like there's a lot of pressure for me to carry a cross for what my ancestors did and what a small community of racists and misogynists are doing. If I'm not actively helping, I'm one of them and just as bad. I want to help, but I refuse to carry the burden for what people long dead have done and what some assholes are doing now.

1) banditeos

2) panthers

3) nazis

Well, just because fewer blacks have jobs doesn't mean they're favoured. They recive oodles of welfare.

To be disproportionately poor is to be privileged?

Are you really that clueless or are you a racist asshat?

And I don't want to sound to racist but...that's like blaming the whites for overall lower black I.Q.

Nevermind. That answers the question.

To be disproportionately poor is to be privileged?
Boy, it sure does sound silly when you put it like that :D

And I'm always a fan of the 'I'm not a racist BUT' lines...

Now why is the White Pride sticker racist, but the Hispanic and Black Pride isn't?

Historical connotations. It's like how 'gay pride' isn't anti-straight, but 'straight-pride' would probably be anti-gay.

what if the driver isn't white?

I'd assume someone just got carjacked :D

Boy, it sure does sound silly when you put it like that :D

And I'm always a fan of the 'I'm not a racist BUT' lines...

Right up there with, "Some of my best friends are [whatever group I'm about to marginalize]"

Don't forget the always classic "There's -slur- and there's -racial group associated with slur-."

Right up there with, "Some of my best friends are [whatever group I'm about to marginalize]"

And, 'no offence...' [followed by incredibly offensive comment].