NationStates Jolt Archive

"Imagine that you are creating a fabric
of human destiny with the object of
making men happy in the end......but
that it was essential and inevitable
to torture to death only one tiny
creature...And to found that edifice
on its unavenged tears: would you
consent to be the architect on those
conditions? Tell me, and tell me the
truth!"


I really love Fyodor. Anybody else? Who has the love?

Brothers Karamazov? Anybody? Anybody?

There's only one thing in this world I love, and that one thing is Fascism.

There's only one thing in this world I love, and that one thing is Fascism.

What about the Christian God? And the pain that entails?

What about the Christian God? And the pain that entails?

I descended from a pious Russian family.. We, in our family, have known the gospel almost ever since our earliest childhood.. Every visit to the Kremlin and the Moscow cathedral was, to me, something solemn.

*nods*

I descended from a pious Russian family.. We, in our family, have known the gospel almost ever since our earliest childhood.. Every visit to the Kremlin and the Moscow cathedral was, to me, something solemn.

*nods*A white Russian?

I descended from a pious Russian family.. We, in our family, have known the gospel almost ever since our earliest childhood.. Every visit to the Kremlin and the Moscow cathedral was, to me, something solemn.

*nods*

You should read this book (mocking the D-man or not):
http://www.amazon.com/Moscow-Circles-Venedikt-Erofeev/dp/0906495261

You can find it cheaper than what it goes for at Amazon.

You should read this book (mocking the D-man or not):
http://www.amazon.com/Moscow-Circles-Venedikt-Erofeev/dp/0906495261

You can find it cheaper than what it goes for at Amazon.

A drink recipe that uses nail polish?

I need to read this.

*hopes it's, you know, under $35*

There's only one thing in this world I love, and that one thing is Fascism.
Do i have the book for you!:p

A drink recipe that uses nail polish?

I need to read this.

*hopes it's, you know, under $35*

Bear in mind that a person who has never steered you anywhere has never steered you wrong in the past. I steer you towards that book.

"Dostoevsky doesn't impress me, what do you think of that shit?"

1 bajillion points to anyone who knows what song that's from.

3 zorkmids to anyone who just knows the artist.

I'm currently at page 234 in Crime and Punishment. Haven't read it for two weeks cuz of too much school work but his writing is really descriptive and easy to understand. I'm not amazed that people find it slow and out of date but people these days don't read enough, they don't appreciate literature as much as it should be appreciated.

I've read Crime and Punishment, but that's it. It was decent, though I only read it in English and not Russian, as I don't speak Russian.

I read Brothers Karamazov 25-30 years ago and thought it was alright.

Read Crime and Punishment 3 or 4 years ago and thought it was fantastic. Would be in my best 10 books of all time. Perhaps I should go back and re-read BK.

I haven't read anything by him. And yes, I know that I really, really should. <.<

I haven't read anything by him. And yes, I know that I really, really should. <.<

I've lost a considerable amount of respect for you. :(

I would have lost it all but I haven't read anything by him either. :p

I've lost a considerable amount of respect for you. :(

I would have lost it all but I haven't read anything by him either. :p:rolleyes: :p

I read Brothers Karamazov in high school, during year 11 or 12 I think. I really can't remember what it was about now.

I read Brothers Karamazov in high school, during year 11 or 12 I think. I really can't remember what it was about now.

Same here. C&P is unforgettable, however.

A drink recipe that uses nail polish?

I need to read this.

*hopes it's, you know, under $35*

That book is fucking win. I read it in Russian, I know.

Same here. C&P is unforgettable, however.

I'll put that one on my list of books to eventually read one day then.

I never read any of his work.. I'm a little skeptical of a man who wrote about Warring Peas.

Oh, wait, that was that other Russian guy. There should be a rule about only having one iconic writer per nation.

I hated his books... You need hammer and chisel to go through his texts.

I hated his books... You need hammer and chisel to go through his texts.

Reading in translation fails.

Well, our child will at least read it in Russian. ;)

"Imagine that you are creating a fabric
of human destiny with the object of
making men happy in the end......but
that it was essential and inevitable
to torture to death only one tiny
creature...And to found that edifice
on its unavenged tears: would you
consent to be the architect on those
conditions? Tell me, and tell me the
truth!"


I really love Fyodor. Anybody else? Who has the love?

Also: What creature? It really depends on the creature.

Also they wouldn't need to go unavenged. You could.. create a giant monument to it. Or kill yourself out of penance after the perfect society was created.

Also, what kind of men would I be making happy? Would they be the kind that would mourn for the lost creature, even if it was such a small and insignificant being, because it was deprived of everything, it's very life, so that they may be happy?

Or would they be the kind of men that enjoy shooting at cows from the back of pick up trucks?

I, personally, find that there's less to despise in the wanton sacrifice of a human being than any animal that could be called a creature (excepting hive-minds). There's a purity to animals, a sense that.. despite their brutality, they're still all they can be, they're still what they are as set out by nature. With people, you have a conflict; this part, this hope for an enlightened being that can comprehend and that possesses such wonderful things as empathy and altruism, and to see what people could be if everyone lived up to this potential is inspiring.

But then you have the other side; the brutal, ignorant side, the desire to express our own animal instincts in the extravagant and supremely destructive way that only an intelligent mind can, to take these natural, beastly feelings and unleash them with means that are altogether unnatural and wholly more damaging than any claw or tooth. And when you see people fall to this, to become these not-beast animal things.. Then that brings despair. It's this that I think of when I think of humanity as a whole, and that saddens me, and fuels much of my anger.

So.. Would I destroy a creature of purpose and singular function, of perhaps some simple beauty, like a songbird, in order to give contentment to a race of beings that are confused, that have such a great thirst for unmitigated revelry and destruction? Would I kill one thing that is perfect, to ensure the happiness of billions that are not?

No. I don't think I would.

I tried to, but its just too dense and descriptive.

Whenever a character goes up, the author spends one page describing each step of the stair.