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Strict regime?

Beekermanc
05-05-2007, 21:52
Is it me or has this place got alot stricter since I was last here...just been flitting through moderation and it seems people are getting reported on for the most trivial of things...ok...if there is a nation who is really breaking the rules of the site then fair enough...throw the book at them...they deserve it ;)

but seems to me like people are being reported for next to nothing...and as for the people reporting them...I bet you write into the paper every week telling them that the flagstone at the end of your road is 1.11378 mm above local planning law height....rearrange these words people...rearrange these words

LIFE A GET

:cool:
Ifreann
05-05-2007, 21:57
Strict moderation>forums full of trolls and goatse.
Drunk commies deleted
05-05-2007, 21:59
It's strict as hell. Every day I'm on NS I find myself editing one or more of my posts to avoid the appearance of flaming so I don't get booted. Kinda sucks.
HotRodia
05-05-2007, 21:59
I actually think it's better to have people reporting minor infractions. It means there are fewer serious infractions to report. It also means I don't have to spend as much time on average banning people or warning them.

What bothers me is when things that are not infractions get reported as if they were the harbingers of DOOM!111!1
Beekermanc
05-05-2007, 22:00
Im not having a pop at the moderators...they have a job to do and they do it...but users report the most bizarre and trivial things that would have been laughed at back in the day hehe
Ultraviolent Radiation
05-05-2007, 22:01
Is it me or has this place got alot stricter since I was last here...just been flitting through moderation and it seems people are getting reported on for the most trivial of things...ok...if there is a nation who is really breaking the rules of the site then fair enough...throw the book at them...they deserve it ;)

but seems to me like people are being reported for next to nothing...and as for the people reporting them...I bet you write into the paper every week telling them that the flagstone at the end of your road is 1.11378 mm above local planning law height....rearrange these words people...rearrange these words

LIFE A GET

:cool:

Not really, I think its just that the standard of behaviour has improved, so the smaller offences are actually noticed.

And if I remember correctly, people used to be moderated for swearing, whereas now we can say "fuck" without worrying about consequences.

EDIT: Also, I hardly ever see anyone warned nowadays, and the only deats seem to be for obvious troll spamming.
Beekermanc
05-05-2007, 22:02
ive never got this term trolling...obviously I know flaming...used to do quite alot of that myself...but define trolling...also gravedigging?!? WTF IS THAT??
Ifreann
05-05-2007, 22:02
Not really, I think its just that the standard of behaviour has improved, so the smaller offences are actually noticed.

And if I remember correctly, people used to be moderated for swearing, whereas now we can say "fuck" without worrying about consequences.

Unless you say it in a thread title.
Ultraviolent Radiation
05-05-2007, 22:05
define trolling
Sorta like flamebaiting I think.

...also gravedigging?!? WTF IS THAT??
Posting in a thread that hasn't been posted in for ages (like a year, or something).
HotRodia
05-05-2007, 22:05
ive never got this term trolling...obviously I know flaming...used to do quite alot of that myself...but define trolling...also gravedigging?!? WTF IS THAT??

This post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8784641&postcount=3) has definitions of both trolling and gravedigging.

You may want to read all the posts in that thread, actually.
Beekermanc
05-05-2007, 22:06
Posting in a thread that hasn't been posted in for ages (like a year, or something).

why would that be a bad thing?:confused:
Forsakia
05-05-2007, 22:07
ive never got this term trolling...obviously I know flaming...used to do quite alot of that myself...but define trolling...also gravedigging?!? WTF IS THAT??

Trolling is basically flamebaiting, posting something idiotic and offensive to get responses.

Gravedigging just posting in old threads where there's nothing new to say to bump them back to the top page I think.
Beekermanc
05-05-2007, 22:11
This post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8784641&postcount=3) has definitions of both trolling and gravedigging.

You may want to read all the posts in that thread, actually.

now im even more confused...surely if what these users are saying is true then this thread has neither characteristics of trolling and gravedigging :confused:
Ultraviolent Radiation
05-05-2007, 22:12
why would that be a bad thing?:confused:

Well, posters are expected to just create a new topic after that time. It's called gravedigging because the topic is treated as "dead and buried" (debated to death, perhaps).

I think part of the reason is because the posters in the thread (particularly the OP) might be long gone, or their views changed in that time.

It's just considered better to create a new original thread, even if the subject is similar.
Beekermanc
05-05-2007, 22:14
Well, posters are expected to just create a new topic after that time. It's called gravedigging because the topic is treated as "dead and buried" (debated to death, perhaps).

I think part of the reason is because the posters in the thread (particularly the OP) might be long gone, or their views changed in that time.

It's just considered better to create a new original thread, even if the subject is similar.

ahhh...that actually makes sense...thanks radman ;)
Ultraviolent Radiation
05-05-2007, 22:18
ahhh...that actually makes sense...thanks radman ;)

no problemo
HotRodia
05-05-2007, 22:20
now im even more confused...surely if what these users are saying is true then this thread has neither characteristics of trolling and gravedigging :confused:

When you tell people who report rules violations to "LIFE A GET" and suggest that they write in to the paper to complain about the most minor things, what are you doing?

You're insulting a group of people, which is what trolling essentially is on this site. It's pretty minor in this case, all things considered, but you should at least be aware that lobbing insults at a group of people is not the best way to go.

Try making a genuine case for them to change their ways instead.
IL Ruffino
05-05-2007, 22:25
I find flirting with the mods to be quite useful.

Why hello, HotRodia. ;)
Beekermanc
05-05-2007, 23:22
When you tell people who report rules violations to "LIFE A GET" and suggest that they write in to the paper to complain about the most minor things, what are you doing?

You're insulting a group of people, which is what trolling essentially is on this site. It's pretty minor in this case, all things considered, but you should at least be aware that lobbing insults at a group of people is not the best way to go.

Try making a genuine case for them to change their ways instead.

No problem neut...I mean hotty ;)
Infinite Revolution
05-05-2007, 23:30
Is it me or has this place got alot stricter since I was last here...just been flitting through moderation and it seems people are getting reported on for the most trivial of things...ok...if there is a nation who is really breaking the rules of the site then fair enough...throw the book at them...they deserve it ;)

but seems to me like people are being reported for next to nothing...and as for the people reporting them...I bet you write into the paper every week telling them that the flagstone at the end of your road is 1.11378 mm above local planning law height....rearrange these words people...rearrange these words

LIFE A GET

:cool:

there are indeed certain elements on here who have a high intolerance of spam/fun/lighthearted threads. there was a poster not long ago who seemed to spend most of his time in moderation reporting threads, he got shouted down but ended up getting mod support cuz he was in fact supporting the rules even though he was being a dick about it.

i think it's just a function of a moderated forum accumulating rules as it gets older and people just getting used to them.
Arinola
05-05-2007, 23:30
I find flirting with the mods to be quite useful.

Why hello, HotRodia. ;)

No problem neut...I mean hotty ;)

Never ever follow Ruffy's advice. Ever.
Ifreann
05-05-2007, 23:32
Never ever follow Ruffy's advice. Ever.

Ruffy is to blame for everything. Always remember that Beeker.
Imperial isa
05-05-2007, 23:34
Never ever follow Ruffy's advice. Ever.

second that
Arinola
05-05-2007, 23:41
Ruffy is to blame for everything. Always remember that Beeker.

second that

See, these people have over 10,000 posts. You should listen to them. *nod*
Ifreann
05-05-2007, 23:44
See, these people have over 10,000 posts. You should listen to them. *nod*

Well, Beeker is an old timer. He just needs to get used to the way we young 'uns do things.
Proggresica
05-05-2007, 23:45
Thought this was going to be about hardcore exercise programs.
Arinola
05-05-2007, 23:47
Well, Beeker is an old timer. He just needs to get used to the way we young 'uns do things.

I know, but he ain't been round these here parts for a while.

And I thought in that thread about young people taking over NSG you considered yourself an old timer? Flaming hypocrite. :p
Imperial isa
05-05-2007, 23:47
Thought this was going to be about hardcore exercise programs.

drop and give me 200 push ups now
IL Ruffino
05-05-2007, 23:55
See, these people have over 10,000 posts. You should listen to them. *nod*

But I have over 20,000!
Dinaverg
06-05-2007, 00:05
But I have over 20,000!

Well, cumulatively speaking, after Arinola threw in an extra 2thousand...