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Popular Bands You Hate: Worst Metal Genre

Zarakon
04-05-2007, 22:50
There's a massive amount of variation in the genre of Metal, so thought it best to select which of the popular genres of metal are the worst, then pick the worst band in that genre.

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Snafturi
04-05-2007, 22:54
Non-melodic.

Edit: Even though the poll doesn't count it, I stand by my choice!
German Nightmare
04-05-2007, 22:59
Non-melodic.

Edit: Even though the poll doesn't count it, I stand by my choice!
I agree.

I can't stand metal (or music, for that matter) where I can't understand a single word "sung".

Why have lyrics if you only grunt?

Nah, that's gotta be the worst kind.
Zarakon
04-05-2007, 23:00
I agree.

I can't stand metal (or music, for that matter) where I can't understand a single word "sung".

Why have lyrics if you only grunt?

Nah, that's gotta be the worst kind.

Some screamo's pretty good. And Finntroll growls, and they're awesome.
Ultraviolent Radiation
04-05-2007, 23:02
I'm a fan of all kinds of metal, actually. It seems pathetic to me when metal fans are too busy fighting amongst themselves to promote metal in general.

Well, I guess it has to be Nu. Still better than typical pop music, but not as good as the others.

Why have lyrics if you only grunt?

Variation of sounds? Damn lyric lovers... go read a poem... :D
Arinola
04-05-2007, 23:02
I would have voted Emo, but it's not up there, and I realised it's not metal. Ah well. So I voted Death and Black metal, it just seems pointless.
Ifreann
04-05-2007, 23:03
I agree.

I can't stand metal (or music, for that matter) where I can't understand a single word "sung".

Why have lyrics if you only grunt?

Nah, that's gotta be the worst kind.

I re-found a misheard lyrics video on youtube. I love the song because the lyrics are so ambiguous. It's a pretty good song aside from that too.


But apart from this, unintelligible lyrics defeat the purpose.
Luipaard
04-05-2007, 23:03
You have heard wierd al's version or nirvana right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DMFALywTbg
Arinola
04-05-2007, 23:04
Variation of sounds? Damn lyric lovers... go read a poem... :D

Emoooooooo. :p
Ultraviolent Radiation
04-05-2007, 23:04
I would have voted Emo, but it's not up there, and I realised it's not metal. Ah well. So I voted Death and Black metal, it just seems pointless.

Pointless? In my opinion, the only point to music is to sound good. Obviously, no genre of music is loved by all, but as long as some people think it sounds good, it has a point.
Llewdor
04-05-2007, 23:04
Nu-metal is terrible. There's no musicality at all.

For evidence of this, check out Metallica's Come Kind of Monster documentary. All the nu-metal guys they audition on bass are terrible.
Ultraviolent Radiation
04-05-2007, 23:06
Emoooooooo. :p

Huh? I'm emo? Or poems are? Emos are all about the soppy lyrics.
Ultraviolent Radiation
04-05-2007, 23:07
You have heard wierd al's version or nirvana right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DMFALywTbg

I probably have at some point, but Nirvana are grunge, not metal.
Zarakon
04-05-2007, 23:10
Well, I guess it has to be Nu. Still better than typical pop music, but not as good as the others.

Nu Metal is not my thing. It's the singing, and it's not heavy enough.

Give me doom, death, black, power, folk, and thrash any day.


Humorous Observation: "black, power, folk," on the list. I swear to god I did not type it in that order on purpose.
Ultraviolent Radiation
04-05-2007, 23:17
Nu Metal is not my thing. It's the singing, and it's not heavy enough.

Give me doom, death, black, power, folk, and thrash any day.

Yeah, I started out liking nu metal, but now my favourite bands are DragonForce (power), Arch Enemy (melodic death), Children of Bodom (???)

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Oh, and in case anyone is really clueless:
This is the whiny pop-rock that people incorrectly refer to as emo (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jvz0bvYmnto) <corrected>
This is not (http://youtube.com/watch?v=fcXU3TVvUnE)
Ifreann
04-05-2007, 23:18
DragonForce

:fluffle:
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
04-05-2007, 23:18
Any one of those goofy sword and magic obsessed genres. It is because of people who listen to that kind of juvenile crap that people assume all metal fans wear dragon shirts.
Snafturi
04-05-2007, 23:22
I agree.

I can't stand metal (or music, for that matter) where I can't understand a single word "sung".

Why have lyrics if you only grunt?

Nah, that's gotta be the worst kind.

I also hate idiots that can't play their instruments (from any genre) or choose not to. Pink Floyd gets a pass. Everyone else, carry a tune or don't play!!!!:mad:
Llewdor
04-05-2007, 23:24
I also hate idiots that can't play their instruments

carry a tune or don't play!!!!:mad:
These are different things. Accept had some great musical construction in their songs, but Udo refused to sing melodies.

And the band was still great.
Snafturi
04-05-2007, 23:31
These are different things. Accept had some great musical construction in their songs, but Udo refused to sing melodies.

And the band was still great.

Atonal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atonality)was the word I was looking for I think. Like the hippy trippy wierd crap that goes nowhere.

There's also some bands that don't know how to play their instruments aren are proud they can't.

Edit #3: Rapture by Morbid Angel is an example of music I can't stand due to the lack of melody.
Soviet Haaregrad
04-05-2007, 23:45
Yeah, I started out liking nu metal, but now my favourite bands are DragonForce (power), Arch Enemy (melodic death), Children of Bodom (???)

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Oh, and in case anyone is really clueless:
This is emo (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jvz0bvYmnto)
This is not (http://youtube.com/watch?v=fcXU3TVvUnE)

Fall Out Boy is emo like Green Day are punk :rolleyes:

This is emo:

Orchid: http://youtube.com/watch?v=OTdt-PbcYZY
Usurp Synapse: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ign7cYBMsRk
Fugazi: http://youtube.com/watch?v=gzC0RNkBXM0
Heroin: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kj22AxNJnZ4

Fall Out Boy is pop-rock, or possibly punk-pop. Capiche?
Harlesburg
04-05-2007, 23:50
Non-melodic.

Edit: Even though the poll doesn't count it, I stand by my choice!
I stand by this choice because it makes sense.
Ultraviolent Radiation
04-05-2007, 23:52
Fall Out Boy is emo like Green Day are punk :rolleyes:

This is emo:

Orchid: http://youtube.com/watch?v=OTdt-PbcYZY
Usurp Synapse: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ign7cYBMsRk
Fugazi: http://youtube.com/watch?v=gzC0RNkBXM0
Heroin: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kj22AxNJnZ4

Fall Out Boy is pop-rock, or possibly punk-pop. Capiche?

Well, there needs to be a name for whiny pop-rock... people call it emo, so I did too.
Zarakon
04-05-2007, 23:58
Any one of those goofy sword and magic obsessed genres. It is because of people who listen to that kind of juvenile crap that people assume all metal fans wear dragon shirts.

But...but...those are cool!
Soviet Haaregrad
05-05-2007, 00:04
Well, there needs to be a name for whiny pop-rock... people call it emo, so I did too.

But emo is already the name of a type of hardcore, the stupid MTV watchers can stick their heads inside of running woodchippers.

Whiny punkpop is both accurate and descriptive. :)
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
05-05-2007, 00:14
But emo is already the name of a type of hardcore, the stupid MTV watchers can stick their heads inside of running woodchippers.

Whiny punkpop is both accurate and descriptive. :)
Oh no, they can't just be lumped in as punk-pop; that was also already a genre of its own before Fallout Boy and kin appeared. You emo-kiddies can keep them, it'll help you build up your angst and anti-social rage.
Snafturi
05-05-2007, 00:15
I stand by this choice because it makes sense.

Three votes for non-melodic so far.

It's just plain awful.


Yay! People are standing behind my choice!!!!
Radical Centrists
05-05-2007, 02:04
I re-found a misheard lyrics video on youtube. I love the song because the lyrics are so ambiguous. It's a pretty good song aside from that too.


But apart from this, unintelligible lyrics defeat the purpose.

Hamster! A dentist! Hard porn... Steven Seagull! :D
Kinda Sensible people
05-05-2007, 02:21
And the worst metal Genre is Thrash, followed by Metalcore, followed by Nu. But Thrash loses just for having Metallica.

Edit: KSp needs to learn to read. Fixed.
Zarakon
05-05-2007, 02:24
And the worst metal Genre is Thrash, followed by Metalcore, followed by Nu. But Thrash loses just for having Metallica.

Edit: KSp needs to learn to read. Fixed.

:eek:

BLASPHEMY!

It's...it's...It's hardcore punk rock fused with heavy metal! How can you NOT like it?
Jello Biafra
05-05-2007, 02:29
Nu, though I was thisclose to voting Hair.
Harlesburg
05-05-2007, 02:43
What the hell are the differences between Thrash, Speed, Metalcore and power?

What is Nu?
Is it like Limp Bizkit and Tommy Lee Jones 'old' new band, that rapping rock one?
Kinda Sensible people
05-05-2007, 02:51
:eek:

BLASPHEMY!

It's...it's...It's hardcore punk rock fused with heavy metal! How can you NOT like it?

It takes the worst aspects of two good genres and mashes them into one, terrible, combination.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
05-05-2007, 03:08
What is Nu?
I believe Linkin Park is an example, but I could be wrong.
In fact, I probably am wrong, so pretend this post never happened. You spent the last 15 seconds staring at pictures of cuddly kittens being fed into wood chippers by adorably precocious 6-year olds.
Radical Centrists
05-05-2007, 03:14
I believe Linkin Park is an example, but I could be wrong.
In fact, I probably am wrong, so pretend this post never happened. You spent the last 15 seconds staring at pictures of cuddly kittens being fed into wood chippers by adorably precocious 6-year olds.

According to Wiki, Nu Metal is the bastard child of Grunge, Hip Hop, Thrash Metal, and Funk. In other words, pure evil.

Linkin Park, Korn, Disturbed, and the like are, in fact, Nu metal.

I voted for them.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
05-05-2007, 03:20
According to Wiki, Nu Metal is the bastard child of Grunge, Hip Hop, Thrash Metal, and Funk.
Since Grunge supposedly came from a marriage of punk and metal, would that make Nu-Metal incest?
Radical Centrists
05-05-2007, 03:41
Since Grunge supposedly came from a marriage of punk and metal, would that make Nu-Metal incest?

Yes. Possibly a bi-sexual threesome.
Boonytopia
05-05-2007, 05:28
Yes. Possibly a bi-sexual threesome.

You're making Nu sound interesting, when I know that it really isn't.
Togach
05-05-2007, 05:36
I cant stand screaming. I put death metal. Crappy vocals and crappy instrumental equals utterly pointless drivel.
Soviet Haaregrad
05-05-2007, 08:30
Oh no, they can't just be lumped in as punk-pop; that was also already a genre of its own before Fallout Boy and kin appeared. You emo-kiddies can keep them, it'll help you build up your angst and anti-social rage.

Fall Out Boy aethetically and sonically has more in common with Good Charlotte then with Saetia, and therefore are punk-pop and not emo.

Emo kiddie? I listen to grindcore, stomp emo kids and boink their girlfriends. :D
IL Ruffino
05-05-2007, 08:33
Metal sucks.

Sorry, PM. :(
Soviet Haaregrad
05-05-2007, 09:08
Metal sucks.

Sorry, PM. :(

No, there's some good metal, but like most art, 95% of it is shit.
IL Ruffino
05-05-2007, 09:15
No, there's some good metal, but like most art, 95% of it is shit.

I can agree with that.

Sure, I've never heard this 5%, but I can have a little faith.
MrMopar
05-05-2007, 09:17
"Metal" Bands I like:
AC/DC
Black Sabbath
Deep Purple
Led Zeppelin

Et cetera.
MrMopar
05-05-2007, 09:19
You're making Nu sound interesting, when I know that it really isn't.
This, and the quote originally in this quote, are both officially sigged, now.
Star Nations
05-05-2007, 09:24
I see Nickleback was quaoted as worst metal band. I would not class them as "metal" anayway their lyrics are pretty good. If there are any bands that need ditching is Metallica and Slipknot. I don't get them at all!!!

:confused:
Boonytopia
05-05-2007, 10:03
This, and the quote originally in this quote, are both officially sigged, now.

I'm flattered. :)
Boonytopia
05-05-2007, 10:12
I see Nickleback was quaoted as worst metal band. I would not class them as "metal" anayway their lyrics are pretty good. If there are any bands that need ditching is Metallica and Slipknot. I don't get them at all!!!

:confused:

You're right, I wouldn't class Nickleback as metal. I'd class them as total, and unutterable, shit. They are the epitome of mediocre, bland, boring "rock". If I never had to listen to them again, it would be too soon.
Kanabia
05-05-2007, 13:43
I don't care for most power metal, but I can see its musicality at least even if it really rubs me the wrong way. Nu Metal or 80s hair bands are worse, but I suppose there are exceptions even amongst those.

You're right, I wouldn't class Nickleback as metal. I'd class them as total, and unutterable, shit. They are the epitome of mediocre, bland, boring "rock". If I never had to listen to them again, it would be too soon.

You deserve one of these. :fluffle:
Siriusa
05-05-2007, 14:06
"Metal" Bands I like:
AC/DC
Black Sabbath
Deep Purple
Led Zeppelin

Et cetera.

Exactly one on that list is actually metal.


:eek:

BLASPHEMY!

It's...it's...It's hardcore punk rock fused with heavy metal! How can you NOT like it?

Two words... Avenged Sevenfold.


I voted for Thrash, nu, metalcore, and glam.
I V Stalin
05-05-2007, 14:19
Glam- and Nu-. Possibly Metalcore, though since I really have no clue what that really means (Converge, Mastodon and Avenged Sevenfold are all the same genre? Really? :rolleyes:) I'll reserve judgement.
Cybach
05-05-2007, 14:49
I dislike most of nu, except for deftones. Hence I voted thrash.
Zarakon
05-05-2007, 15:53
I see Nickleback was quaoted as worst metal band. I would not class them as "metal" anayway their lyrics are pretty good. If there are any bands that need ditching is Metallica and Slipknot. I don't get them at all!!!

:confused:

It's the worst alternative band. Did I type metal on accident? I'll fix that if I did.


EDIT: No, I didn't.
Zarakon
05-05-2007, 15:56
Two words... Avenged Sevenfold.


Ironically, that's the exact two words I would use to tell you why you should like metalcore..
Soviet Haaregrad
05-05-2007, 19:26
Ironically, that's the exact two words I would use to tell you why you should like metalcore..

If I could do cartwheels, I'd do cartwheels into kids who kung-fu dance to Avenged Sevenfold. :D

It's not that all metalcore sucks, after all Converge and Shai Hulud are amazing on a scale that most mortals fail to comprehend, it's just the cheesy melodic stuff MTV likes to hock that's all bland and generic.
Jello Biafra
06-05-2007, 02:36
It's not that all metalcore sucks, after all Converge and Shai Hulud are amazing on a scale that most mortals fail to comprehend, it's just the cheesy melodic stuff MTV likes to hock that's all bland and generic.Isn't that true of everything MTV tries to hock nowadays?
Potarius
06-05-2007, 02:43
Glam, Black, and Nu-Metal are equally as bad as each other. At least Glam Metal has something going for it, and that's called an entertainment factor. It's fun, but the music usually sucks total fucking ass.

Two friends of mine play some of the best Metal duets ever, as they combine just about every Metal subgenre imaginable... And they do it right. They've only been playing for four years each, but they sound absolutely terrific.
Soviet Haaregrad
06-05-2007, 03:03
Isn't that true of everything MTV tries to hock nowadays?

Nowadays? You mean they haven't always been pablum-mongers? ;)
Jello Biafra
06-05-2007, 03:04
Nowadays? You mean they haven't always been pablum-mongers? ;)They used to take chances occasionally. See: 120 Minutes
Luporum
06-05-2007, 03:05
Excessive screaming is just annoying. Slipknot. *nods*
Soviet Haaregrad
06-05-2007, 03:18
They used to take chances occasionally. See: 120 Minutes

Yeah, but every business makes the occasional mistake. ;)
Zarakon
06-05-2007, 05:04
If I could do cartwheels, I'd do cartwheels into kids who kung-fu dance to Avenged Sevenfold. :D

Well, kung-fu dancing in general is probably a fairly bad sin. Anybody have the Pope on this?

Ah, yes, here we go:

Pope Benedict III:

If thou arst foundeth to be waltzing in a manner similar to that of the Chinese warriors, thou must speaketh thirty-five "hail mary"s, and buy me a drink.

Pope John Paul II:

Don't be hatin', Your Supreme Undead Holiness Pope Benedict the Third!

Pope Benedict III:

Yo! Thou arst be the hater, oh foul cur!

Pope John Paul II:

You wanna take this to Limbo, boy?

Pope Benedict XVI

You can't, I got rid of it.

God

When did I give you the power to dissolve realms of existence?

Pope Benedict XVI

It's in my Papal Contract.

God

I'll Damn It! I need to read the fine print on those things! I should've learned this after the incident with the smiting...

Pope Gregory I

He SO had that coming!

God

SILENCE!

Jesus

Hey, man, I was wondering, could I go down? It's getting kind of boring here...

God

NO! NO! NO! I BROUGHT THIS WORLD INTO BEING, AND THEN I BROUGHT YOU INTO IT, AND I'M NOT LETTING YOU DESTROY IT!

Jesus

Aww man...

God

AND TURN THAT SINFUL HEAVY METAL MUSIC DOWN!

Pope John Paul II

Hey, Jesus, can I borrow "Seventh Son of a Seventh Son" By Iron Maiden?

Pope Sixtus IV

Oh man, those things ROCKED! Ferdinand II of Aragon showed me one of those things, and daaaaaammmmnnnn.

Jesus

Yo, JP! You check out the new Napalm Death album?

Pope John Paul II

Yeah man, kicks ass.

Jesus

Yeah, I actually plucked it straight out of the minds of the band.

Pope John Paul II

Radical man...

Jesus

But now the RIAA is suing me.

Do you ever have to scroll back up the post to see what the hell got you on this topic in the first place?
Zarakon
06-05-2007, 20:10
I killed the thread...:(
Soviet Haaregrad
07-05-2007, 11:43
I killed the thread...:(

It happens to me all the time. :(

Now, let's take a moment to reflect on how awful hair metal is.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/Eab2.jpg
Okeford Fitzpaine
07-05-2007, 12:02
every type of metal is amazing
Pompous world
07-05-2007, 13:25
nu metal all the way
cannibal corpse suck the proverbial arse too
Ogdens nutgone flake
07-05-2007, 13:29
METAL! The bloody Goths got hold of it and anally raped it !! You can't go to a club now without having to deal with clothes horse poseurs with panda makup reading Anne Rice vampire novels on the dance floor , the dreary bastards!
Ogdens nutgone flake
07-05-2007, 13:32
And they all get bullied at school! No surprise really wot with all the self harming and highschool massacre coats!
I V Stalin
07-05-2007, 13:43
METAL! The bloody Goths got hold of it and anally raped it !! You can't go to a club now without having to deal with clothes horse poseurs with panda makup reading Anne Rice vampire novels on the dance floor , the dreary bastards!
So that metal night I went to on Satuday didn't actually happen? Crap! :rolleyes:
Soviet Haaregrad
07-05-2007, 19:38
So that metal night I went to on Satuday didn't actually happen? Crap! :rolleyes:

Hey, dumb people never let reality get in the way of ignorance. How else would they get to enjoy the cheesy taste of a mouthful of toe nail gunk and foot hair.
Delator
09-05-2007, 07:15
Every metal genre has bands that ought to be sent to tour Greenland for a few decades.

While Nu Metal came close to getting my vote, there are several bands widely considered to be in the genre that are actually quite good (System of a Down, American Head Charge, Sevendust, and Mudvayne come to mind.)

Glam/Hair, by contrast to all other genres, has no band that can step foward to prevent accurate claims of total suckitude. Hence, it receives my vote.
Harlesburg
09-05-2007, 08:51
According to Wiki, Nu Metal is the bastard child of Grunge, Hip Hop, Thrash Metal, and Funk. In other words, pure evil.

Linkin Park, Korn, Disturbed, and the like are, in fact, Nu metal.

I voted for them.
I object to that, hardly founded.
I believe Linkin Park is an example, but I could be wrong.
In fact, I probably am wrong, so pretend this post never happened. You spent the last 15 seconds staring at pictures of cuddly kittens being fed into wood chippers by adorably precocious 6-year olds.
'I'm in your mulch making your blood n bone!'?
Silly kittens.