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Kinda vague - can't tell whether she means Socialists will riot, or the same people as last year will riot, or that Sarkozy will wear jackboots and kill people...

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2007-05-04T152230Z_01_L03669420_RTRUKOC_0_US-FRANCE-ELECTION.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

However, it's a really silly thing to say.

"It is my responsibility today to alert people to the risk of (his) candidature with regards to the violence and brutality that would be unleashed in the country (if he won)," she said.

Pressed on whether there would be actual violence, Royal said: "I think so, I think so," referring specifically to France's volatile suburbs hit by widespread rioting in 2005.

I would have to see the original French - I'm sure she didn't say this in English.

Vote for me, or my supporters may riot?

Kinda vague - can't tell whether she means Socialists will riot, or the same people as last year will riot, or that Sarkozy will wear jackboots and kill people...

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2007-05-04T152230Z_01_L03669420_RTRUKOC_0_US-FRANCE-ELECTION.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

However, it's a really silly thing to say.



I would have to see the original French - I'm sure she didn't say this in English.

Vote for me, or my supporters may riot?

I thought she meant that the government would be the one getting violent.

Irrespective of what she refers to, it's one hell of a misjudgement. She must be getting desperate to resort to crude manouvres such as this.:)

Vote for me, or my supporters may riot?
Not at all.

If the translation is accurate, she seems to be suggesting that if Sarkozy wins, he will not solve the deep problems that led to such violence in 2005 and before.

Shameless electioneering perhaps, but not exactly a call to violence.

Not at all.

If the translation is accurate, she seems to be suggesting that if Sarkozy wins, he will not solve the deep problems that led to such violence in 2005 and before.

Shameless electioneering perhaps, but not exactly a call to violence.

That's why I would like to see it in French.

That’s why I would like to see it in French.
Perhaps, but I believe Reuters would have competent translators, it being one of the largest (the largest?) international news service and all.

Your going to have to find another tack to fight the Socialists with, RO.

Not at all.

If the translation is accurate, she seems to be suggesting that if Sarkozy wins, he will not solve the deep problems that led to such violence in 2005 and before.

Shameless electioneering perhaps, but not exactly a call to violence.

Indeed.

That's why I would like to see it in French.


Vendredi matin, Mme Royal a estimé de sa «responsabilité de lancer une alerte par rapport au risque de la candidature» de M. Sarkozy, «par rapport aux violences et aux brutalités qui se déclencheront dans le pays».

Elle faisait notamment allusion aux banlieues deshéritées à forte population d'origine immigrée, théâtre d'émeutes en 2005 et où M. Sarkozy a été vivement critiqué lorsqu'il était ministre de l'Intérieur.

Mme Royal a en outre jugé que la candidature de Nicolas Sarkozy était «dangereuse, en termes de concentration des pouvoirs, en termes de brutalité, en termes de mensonges».

linque (http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20070504/CPMONDE/705040488/6283/CPMONDE)

Reuters ..one of the largest (the largest?) international news service .My guess would be

1# AP
2# Reuters
3# AFP

but I dont know.. ought to be some subtle definitions for:
News-Service
Wire-Service

1# AP
2# Reuters
3# AFP
How the hell did you manage that OcceanDrive?

Your the king of the #, yet you manage to incorrectly use it in the first post of yours which actually warrants a #.

How the hell did you manage that OcceanDrive?

Your the king of the #, yet you manage to incorrectly use it in the first post of yours which actually warrants a #.

hahaha

How the hell did you manage that OcceanDrive?

Your the king of the #, yet you manage to incorrectly use it in the first post of yours which actually warrants a #.the Internet is like sex.. sometimes you have to try a different position. ;)

My French isn't half bad, and it seems to me that she's not so much threatening to incite violence as saying that those problems which she intends to address will not be addressed by M. Sarkozy and that the failure of his policies to ameliorate conditions among those likely to riot will result in "violence and brutality" (I feel that this is born out by the story's mention of her allusion to "banlieues deshéritées à forte population d'origine immigrée, théâtre d'émeutes en 2005"). Doom-saying, fear-based rhetoric? Perhaps, but a threat, implicit or explicit, it is not.

Vendredi matin, Mme Royal a estimé de sa «responsabilité de lancer une alerte par rapport au risque de la candidature» de M. Sarkozy, «par rapport aux violences et aux brutalités qui se déclencheront dans le pays».

Elle faisait notamment allusion aux banlieues deshéritées à forte population d'origine immigrée, théâtre d'émeutes en 2005 et où M. Sarkozy a été vivement critiqué lorsqu'il était ministre de l'Intérieur.

Mme Royal a en outre jugé que la candidature de Nicolas Sarkozy était «dangereuse, en termes de concentration des pouvoirs, en termes de brutalité, en termes de mensonges».


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First paragraph. Royal says she is sending a warning about Sarkozy because he hasn't or will not do anything about the violence in the country.

Second paragraph. She says that Sarkozy in 2005 was criticized for not taking care of the problems while he was the minister of the interior regarding the poor neighborhoods. Talking about the riots basically

The last paragraph says that Nicolas Sarkozy would do anything to get to power included lying.

I didn't say it word for word but paraphrasing what is said.

well my moneys on she knows shes lost the election judging by this outburst course shes not actually saying the socialists will rise up just that Sarkozy is a dick something which I agree with

of course riots in a nation that is a short boat trip away from me does sound exciting

well my moneys on she knows shes lost the election judging by this outburst course shes not actually saying the socialists will rise up just that Sarkozy is a dick something which I agree with

of course riots in a nation that is a short boat trip away from me does sound exciting

Sarkozy is wonderful. Anybody who actually faces down juvenile rioters, and calls them a "rabble", should be given a lifetime's supply of tea and crumpets.

Sarkozy is wonderful. Anybody who actually faces down juvenile rioters, and calls them a "rabble", should be given a lifetime's supply of tea and crumpets.

with no cheese or butter! such savagery is unknown to mankind! :mad: :p

edit: bloody broken jolt making my life hard

My French isn't half bad, and it seems to me that she's not so much threatening to incite violence as saying that those problems which she intends to address will not be addressed by M. Sarkozy and that the failure of his policies to ameliorate conditions among those likely to riot will result in "violence and brutality" (I feel that this is born out by the story's mention of her allusion to "banlieues deshéritées à forte population d'origine immigrée, théâtre d'émeutes en 2005"). Doom-saying, fear-based rhetoric? Perhaps, but a threat, implicit or explicit, it is not.

That's my reading of it too.

Sarkozy is wonderful. Anybody who actually faces down juvenile rioters, and calls them a "rabble", should be given a lifetime's supply of tea and crumpets.

So...

Great leaders should - as opposed to solve problems - insult people in exchange for tea and crumpets.

Or is it simply because Sarkozy's rhetoric is the kind of lunacy you enjoy hearing so much about those "filthy foreigners"?

That's why I would like to see it in French.

Ah, so you made a post about what she said before you verified what she said, and admit that you don't know for sure what she said.

What the fuck was your point making this again?

Perhaps, but I believe Reuters would have competent translators, it being one of the largest (the largest?) international news service and all.

Your going to have to find another tack to fight the Socialists with, RO.

Agreed. Except your should be you're.