hmm....
Smunkeeville
03-05-2007, 22:33
if someone calls you daily and emails you nearly 7 times a day claiming that they are going to sue you and calling you names......is that harassment?
also, who is the most annoying person in your life right now and why??
(mine is the person who is going to "sue" me)
Imperial isa
03-05-2007, 22:35
yes it is harassment
not saying who the annoying person in my life right now trying to forget them
Yes, it is harrassment, show emails to the police. Or someone important.
And I would say a girl in my year. But she bugs me all the time, not just now.
Kryozerkia
03-05-2007, 22:38
If they keep doing that, tell them that you'll press harassment charges if they don't cease and desist. If they want to sue you, they should have gone to court to get a summons to have you appear there but if they didn't and they keep threatening, it will work against them as they will be taken away in cuffs for harassment.
if someone calls you daily and emails you nearly 7 times a day claiming that they are going to sue you and calling you names......is that harassment?
also, who is the most annoying person in your life right now and why??
(mine is the person who is going to "sue" me)
Why would they want to sue you. Did you break their right to no be offended?
Definatley harrasement. At the moment I don't know anyone overly annoying. I'm happy with the people I know.
Dishonorable Scum
03-05-2007, 22:39
Yeah, I'd have to say it qualifies as harassment. Especially if the threatened lawsuit is totally groundless and without legal merit, which you didn't say but which is usually the case in these situations.
Save those e-mails. And write down all the times and dates this person calls you. If you ever need a restraining order, it'll be valuable evidence.
Smunkeeville
03-05-2007, 22:40
Why would they want to sue you. Did you break their right to no be offended?
I reported them to the police for fraud and now they are undergoing investigation.....
I reported them to the police for fraud and now they are undergoing investigation.....
So they are going to sue you for being a lawful citizen?
Perhaps you should inform the police. It would probably would help their investigation somewhat.
Infinite Revolution
03-05-2007, 22:43
if someone calls you daily and emails you nearly 7 times a day claiming that they are going to sue you and calling you names......is that harassment?
also, who is the most annoying person in your life right now and why??
(mine is the person who is going to "sue" me)
i'd say so. unless they follow through with their threats, then they're jut taunting and being a dick.
nobody particularly annoying in my life now. one of my friend's usually comic offensiveness and contraversiality (is that even a word?) gets on my nerves occaisionally but only when i'm too tired to take it in the spirit it's intended.
Pan-Arab Barronia
03-05-2007, 22:44
I reported them to the police for fraud and now they are undergoing investigation.....
Pwnt. :p
Anyhoo. I'd say that was harassment. Take it to the police, et cetera, let them deal with it. Oh, and set your email to send any e-mails from them to the junkbox. Or set a rule that auto-replies "shut up you cocknose" or words to that effect.
And the most annoying person in my life at the moment? My dad. He's trying to get me off the laptop. :D
Ashmoria
03-05-2007, 22:44
depends on what they say on the phone. if they are calling you very bad names, its probably harrassment but you need to keep copies of the calls for evidence. given that you can hang up, once a day might not impress a judge unless its truly vile.
same with the emails but really, if they arent threatening you with illegal harm, its not going to go anywhere.
if it crosses over into threats of bodily harm, contact the police right away. they might be working themselves into a rage that will end in violence.
Imperial isa
03-05-2007, 22:46
I reported them to the police for fraud and now they are undergoing investigation.....
then if they sue you and win then lose the fraud case they cant' have what they win from you
yes. and report that to the police.
Smunkeeville
03-05-2007, 22:49
then if they sue you and win then lose the fraud case they cant' have what they win from you
but if they are found guilty then she can't sue me for defamation right? that's what she claims....well, actually she claims libel but I didn't write anything about her...so maybe she means slander, but I didn't say anything bad about her either, other than the truth, which led to the investigation.
IL Ruffino
03-05-2007, 22:49
also, who is the most annoying person in your life right now and why??
An aid at my school.
I usually get to school around 8:15 and he'd be in the lobby making sure that every thing is going smooth. I'd come in, we'd talk for a minute or two, then I'd go off to class.
But the last few days he has been an asshole to me. Claiming that he's been leaving me off the hook, calling me lazy for not getting to school earlier, and threatening to get me in trouble.
I started coming in earlier and earlier, and he's still yelling at me.
Today I got there at 8:02, with no drama from him. Then this afternoon, out of no where, he comes up to me and says "Oh yeah, you can thank me for letting you go this morning." The fucking asshole.
I argued with him for a minute or two, then decided to just ignore him and go sit inside. Right as I opened the door he told me "And now you're going to hold that door for me." (He's in a wheelchair.) I walked inside and shut the door.
Fuck him.
counter sue for Emotional distress. ;)
Terrorist Cakes
03-05-2007, 22:52
I am my own most annoying person. I won't even admit how f.cking screwed up I am.
Dishonorable Scum
03-05-2007, 22:53
An aid at my school.
I usually get to school around 8:15 and he'd be in the lobby making sure that every thing is going smooth. I'd come in, we'd talk for a minute or two, then I'd go off to class.
Out of curiosity, what time are you supposed to be there? If you're supposed to be there by 8:00, he at least has some grounds. If it's supposed to be 8:30, he's utterly nuts.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
03-05-2007, 22:54
I reported them to the police for fraud and now they are undergoing investigation.....Uh-oh, it's not your...aunt, was it? You know, about the thing you told us about where she kept using your mom for fishy credit schemes?
An aid at my school.
I usually get to school around 8:15 and he'd be in the lobby making sure that every thing is going smooth. I'd come in, we'd talk for a minute or two, then I'd go off to class.
But the last few days he has been an asshole to me. Claiming that he's been leaving me off the hook, calling me lazy for not getting to school earlier, and threatening to get me in trouble.
I started coming in earlier and earlier, and he's still yelling at me.
Today I got there at 8:02, with no drama from him. Then this afternoon, out of no where, he comes up to me and says "Oh yeah, you can thank me for letting you go this morning." The fucking asshole.
I argued with him for a minute or two, then decided to just ignore him and go sit inside. Right as I opened the door he told me "And now you're going to hold that door for me." (He's in a wheelchair.) I walked inside and shut the door.
Fuck him.The fuck?
IL Ruffino
03-05-2007, 22:58
Out of curiosity, what time are you supposed to be there? If you're supposed to be there by 8:00, he at least has some grounds. If it's supposed to be 8:30, he's utterly nuts.
School starts at 8:00, but if you're there before your school bus is, you're not supposed to be marked late. As I was. I've already talked to the principal about it, and he seems to have no problem with me arriving a little after 8:00.
I plan on having another talk with him tomorrow.
IL Ruffino
03-05-2007, 22:58
The fuck?
Hm?
Snafturi
03-05-2007, 23:00
if someone calls you daily and emails you nearly 7 times a day claiming that they are going to sue you and calling you names......is that harassment?
also, who is the most annoying person in your life right now and why??
(mine is the person who is going to "sue" me)
Yes, it's harrassment. Lodge a complaint with the phone company and your local police department. Keep a record of everything. Looking into your state's laws on stalking orders and restraining orders. This sounds like a stalking order type thing. You should be able to get some free legal advice.
People annoying me? The city budget committee, they need to pull their head out of their ass. The city council, they need to pull their head out of their ass. The city administrator for the city of [another city, not Portland]. He's a mean bully. He is using his position to bully people.:mad:
Smunkeeville
03-05-2007, 23:05
Uh-oh, it's not your...aunt, was it? You know, about the thing you told us about where she kept using your mom for fishy credit schemes?
tis she, only now she is in real trouble, since she.....well, it's not important, but she is in federal court tomorrow.
She just called again... hubby answered, hung up on her.
Imperial isa
03-05-2007, 23:12
tis she, only now she is in real trouble, since she.....well, it's not important, but she is in federal court tomorrow.
She just called again... hubby answered, hung up on her.
good for him for hunging up on her and i hope she get whats caming to her
Ashmoria
03-05-2007, 23:20
but if they are found guilty then she can't sue me for defamation right? that's what she claims....well, actually she claims libel but I didn't write anything about her...so maybe she means slander, but I didn't say anything bad about her either, other than the truth, which led to the investigation.
she cant sue you for anything. if you turned her in and there was enough evidence to for the prosecutor to charge her, its on him not you.
a not guilty verdict wouldnt be evidence that you did anything wrong.
Snafturi
03-05-2007, 23:20
tis she, only now she is in real trouble, since she.....well, it's not important, but she is in federal court tomorrow.
She just called again... hubby answered, hung up on her.
You'd think she'd get tired of it....
...can you block her emails at least?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
03-05-2007, 23:24
tis she, only now she is in real trouble, since she.....well, it's not important, but she is in federal court tomorrow.
She just called again... hubby answered, hung up on her.
Oh man, that sucks. Family. Ugh. I just hope your mom is not on your back about it, too. From what I remember you telling us, she might well be.
Snafturi
03-05-2007, 23:25
she cant sue you for anything. if you turned her in and there was enough evidence to for the prosecutor to charge her, its on him not you.
a not guilty verdict wouldnt be evidence that you did anything wrong.
Anyone can civilly sue anyone for anything (so long as it's not a SLAP suit or something of that nature.) Libel and slander are hard to prove. They have to prove malicious intent. They also have to prove that the person publishing it knew it was a lie. That's why so many companies will send a C&D. They also have to prove that damage was done by the print/words.
The Cat-Tribe
03-05-2007, 23:25
but if they are found guilty then she can't sue me for defamation right? that's what she claims....well, actually she claims libel but I didn't write anything about her...so maybe she means slander, but I didn't say anything bad about her either, other than the truth, which led to the investigation.
Truth is an absolute defense to any defamation claim.
Also, IIRC reports of crimes to police or other proper authorities are generally privileged. Thus unless they can be shown to have been made maliciously, you can't be sued for them.
Having no knowledge whatsoever of the circumstances, I can't really opine with any authority, but I think you have little to worry about in terms of an actual defamation suit.
You are definitely being harrassed. I would document the harassment (Save the e-mails, write down when you get called and what is said) and notify the police. If the harassing party is already the subject of a police investigation, the police handling that matter might be in the best position to help. I'm not sure I'd count on the police doing much, however.
You'd think she'd get tired of it....
...can you block her emails at least?
edit: what Cat-Tribe said.
Smunkeeville
03-05-2007, 23:27
Oh man, that sucks. Family. Ugh. I just hope your mom is not on your back about it, too. From what I remember you telling us, she might well be.
she is. they all are, except for hubby.....he still loves me.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
03-05-2007, 23:28
she is. they all are, except for hubby.....he still loves me.And us.
:fluffle:
Johnny B Goode
03-05-2007, 23:28
if someone calls you daily and emails you nearly 7 times a day claiming that they are going to sue you and calling you names......is that harassment?
also, who is the most annoying person in your life right now and why??
(mine is the person who is going to "sue" me)
Yeah, I'd call it that. The most annoying person I know right now is this guy at school who hates me for no reason.
Snafturi
03-05-2007, 23:31
Incidentally, an ex tried to sue me because I filed a resraining order against him. He tried to sue because the restraining order wasn't held up in court (his lawyers v little me with no laywers). The prosecutors told him to piss off. If he could have sued me civilly he would have.
Ashmoria
03-05-2007, 23:34
Anyone can civilly sue anyone for anything (so long as it's not a SLAP suit or something of that nature.) Libel and slander are hard to prove. They have to prove malicious intent. They also have to prove that the person publishing it knew it was a lie. That's why so many companies will send a C&D. They also have to prove that damage was done by the print/words.
i suppose so *thinking of the man with the $65million pants lawsuit*
but on the up side. the harasser is likely to be too busy with her prison stint and/or too strapped for cash after defending herself in federal court to have the wherewithall to sue smunkee for anything.
Snafturi
03-05-2007, 23:34
edit: what Cat-Tribe said.
Yes, it's harrassment. Lodge a complaint with the phone company and your local police department. Keep a record of everything. Looking into your state's laws on stalking orders and restraining orders. This sounds like a stalking order type thing. You should be able to get some free legal advice.
What's wrong with my advice?
What's wrong with my advice?
nothing wrong with your advice... but I would not block or delete the e-mails...
I figure people suggesting the same thing (or varients of the same thing) would be better than a chorus of "yeah, what _____ said" :cool:
Snafturi
03-05-2007, 23:37
i suppose so *thinking of the man with the $65million pants lawsuit*
but on the up side. the harasser is likely to be too busy with her prison stint and/or too strapped for cash after defending herself in federal court to have the wherewithall to sue smunkee for anything.
I've been there firsthand. The ex sued me several times. The only thing he didn't sue me civilly for was the restraining order, and he promised me he would.
You get into the area of a SLAP lawsuit when you try to civilly sue someone in these instances.
Beekermanc
03-05-2007, 23:38
I have a terminal illness list...so when the doctor says beeks ol pal...you only have days to live...then im going on a killing spree...mainly celebrities who piss me off...
Snafturi
03-05-2007, 23:39
nothing wrong with your advice... but I would not block or delete the e-mails...
I figure people suggesting the same thing (or varients of the same thing) would be better than a chorus of "yeah, what _____ said" :cool:
That's why it's important to keep a record. It's a good idea to block emails or phone numbers for the day you go to court. It proves that you've told the person you wish no contact and have taken measures to reduce/elimate contact. If the person continues to attempt contact after having emails/phone calls blocked (by calling from different numbers or getting a new email account) it proves intent to stalk.
Edit: I might still have my restraining order if I had taken further measures. He was basically like "I was never told to stop calling/emailing/visiting." I had told him, but I had no evidence.
I have a terminal illness list...so when the doctor says beeks ol pal...you only have days to live...then im going on a killing spree...mainly celebrities who piss me off...
"Beeks old pal... according to the tests, they say you have 4 days to live... unfortunatlly, we couldn't get a hold of you for three days..." :D
That's why it's important to keep a record. It's a good idea to block emails or phone numbers for the day you go to court. It proves that you've told the person you wish no contact and have taken measures to reduce/elimate contact. If the person continues to attempt contact after having emails/phone calls blocked (by calling from different numbers or getting a new email account) it proves intent to stalk.
Edit: I might still have my restraining order if I had taken further measures. He was basically like "I was never told to stop calling/emailing/visiting." I had told him, but I had no evidence.
true, but you won't beable to tell with the E-Mail blocked. but keeping them (even keeping them unopened) you have a record that you can give the cops at a moment's notice.
I hope he did stop tho.
Beekermanc
03-05-2007, 23:44
"Beeks old pal... according to the tests, they say you have 4 days to live... unfortunatlly, we couldn't get a hold of you for three days..." :D
Haha!!
Oh dear...wheres the shotgun...damn...forgot they dont allow firearms in this country...ill just have to use a rusty spoon:p
Philosopy
03-05-2007, 23:45
Oh dear...wheres the shotgun...damn...forgot they dont allow firearms in this country...ill just have to use a rusty spoon:p
Depending on the celebrity, that may be preferable. :p
Snafturi
03-05-2007, 23:46
true, but you won't beable to tell with the E-Mail blocked. but keeping them (even keeping them unopened) you have a record that you can give the cops at a moment's notice.
I hope he did stop tho.
Oh no. He's broken into my house twice this year. Thanks to the wonderful city and county I live in, there's no more property crime investigation. He knows that.
He calls me on Christmas and every few months to try to rattle me. He learned a few things in court too. He knows how not to get caught.
Edit: The judge specifically asked me what evidence I had that I tried to end contact with him.
If I would have blocked his email and he would have set up another email account to continue to email me, then I would have been able to show intent.
Edit #2: He primarily harrased me telephonically and in person. I needed to call the phone company every time he called me.
Call to power
04-05-2007, 00:00
my worst person at the moment...hmmm well some guy has been bothering one of my friends (a girl so gimme chivalry points!) and today I had to drag my arse off NSG to get rid of him despite being ill and far too nice for my own good
I'd say the guy isn't so annoying despite the weird Romanian accent which I can't understand more the fact that I'm on speed-dial for Lord do everything of mango spoon manor :mad:
Oh no. He's broken into my house twice this year. Thanks to the wonderful city and county I live in, there's no more property crime investigation. He knows that.
can't you kill him? "use reasonable force"?
Ashmoria
04-05-2007, 00:28
oh yeah i get to bitch...
my least favorite person right now is the bitch who has decided that MY lane at the swimmingpool is now HERS. she is some kind of boss of the pool so she has keys to let herself in before we commoners can get in and she takes the lane she wants... the one *I* have been swimming in for the past 5 years! (common pool courtesy would say that she has to take one of the lanes not used by regulars)
but the reason she is "dead to me" is that when she comes a bit late and i get my lane back, she squeezes in between me and the person who swims the lane next to the wall NO MATTER HOW EMPTY THE REST OF THE POOL IS. when the wall-swimmer asked her to use a different lane (she is afraid of the water and the bitch swims so close to her that she panics) she explained that she HAD to do that because it could happen some day that if she didnt she would not be able to move over after the 2 of us leave. something that hasnt happened for many many months. but NOOOO her freaking majesty's remote chance of being inconvenienced is more important that the wall swimmers ability to swim without panic.
she is dead to me.
Snafturi
04-05-2007, 00:41
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when the wall-swimmer asked her to use a different lane (she is afraid of the water and the bitch swims so close to her that she panics) she explained that she HAD to do that because it could happen some day that if she didnt she would not be able to move over after the 2 of us leave. something that hasnt happened for many many months. but NOOOO her freaking majesty's remote chance of being inconvenienced is more important that the wall swimmers ability to swim without panic.
WTF? That woman has no soul. Why on earth would you possible want to make someone panic?
I don't suppose there's any way to complain about the "queen."
can't you kill him? "use reasonable force"?
If he breaks in while I'm home I can. Not so much any other time. Actually, I'm not a huge fan of violence, even if the person is an a**hole. It doesn't mean I wouldn't defend myself.
WTF? That woman has no soul. Why on earth would you possible want to make someone panic?
I don't suppose there's any way to complain about the "queen."
If he breaks in while I'm home I can. Not so much any other time. Actually, I'm not a huge fan of violence, even if the person is an a**hole. It doesn't mean I wouldn't defend myself.
is he still breaking into your home? then place hidden cameras and motion detectors.
that will prove he's there. then get a better binding restraining order.
Indoslavokia
04-05-2007, 00:53
My list of annoyances:
1. Computers
2. (no offence) liberals/democrats
3. random people... ew
4. losing everything
5. spilling stuff on the new furniture and carpet
Snafturi
04-05-2007, 00:56
is he still breaking into your home? then place hidden cameras and motion detectors.
that will prove he's there. then get a better binding restraining order.
That requires a substantial investment. He's very thorough when he ransacks too:(. At least I have renter's insurance. It helps soften the blow.
I recently moved. I don't know if he knows where I live. No one except family knows where I live.
Edit: If this levy doesn't get passed, there's no garantee that Measure 11 (really bad) crimes will be prosecuted. With the budgget cuts on the table regardless, I don't know if the cops will do much.
Hooray! Oregon, the state with some of the highest taxes and least services!!
There isn't anyone really annoying to me right now, except my mom. When I go to sleep after an exhausting midterm, she goes on about how I'm lazy and that I should be studying as soon as I get home to keep up the momentum. Every time anyone else in the family watches a movie or plays computer games with the least amount of violence, she goes on about how that's the reason that there are school shootings and violent kids. Yet, whenever she gets angry, she tells us how the laws were different so that she could whip us when we're out of line. Whenever she breaks her promise to my brothers, she tries to come up with some pathetic excuse. For example, my mom and dad promised to get my brother a dog. However, the day before we were going to get it, she called it off. She just promised my brother a dog so that he would keep quiet and she never intended to fulfill her promise. My brother was in tears and all she said to him was that life isn't fair so he should get used to it.
Pure Metal
04-05-2007, 00:58
most annoying person in my life at the mo, and for the last few months i guess, is actually a small group of three or four people working to 'bring down' our family business, and personally myself and my dad. they have publicly claimed we embezzled and defrauded a client, to which said client (as well as the treasurer and accountant) went "WTF? LOL!" they have worked subversively to turn others against us, and also harassed us in other ways. our response has been to just do our job and do it well so nobody else can complain.
the reason for their malcontent is that we won a contract for a project and they didn't. they didn't because they were fucking useless...
anyhoo, its annoying at the least and highly, deeply upsetting at the worst. and its been going on for months. we just hope that if we continue to do a great job people will just get tired of their whining.
that's harassment ;)
That requires a substantial investment. He's very thorough when he ransacks too:(. At least I have renter's insurance. It helps soften the blow.
I recently moved. I don't know if he knows where I live. No one except family knows where I live.
if he doesn't know, then good for you and best wishes.
but you might want to look into such an investment. even caller ID.
such things can become evidence to show that he is stalking you and that he does pose a threat to your safety.
Snafturi
04-05-2007, 01:02
-snip-
I don't want to be rude, but your mom sounds a little crazy.
Ashmoria
04-05-2007, 01:02
WTF? That woman has no soul. Why on earth would you possible want to make someone panic?
I don't suppose there's any way to complain about the "queen."
oh NOOOO snaf she HAS to do it. out of ....250 times a year there are 2 or 3 where someone might come in and take the lane when we leave and before she notices that we have left (she has to move over after a while because of a class that starts toward the end of her swim) i mean what if SHE was inconvenienced? her rather remote chance of inconveniece is FAR more important than the other woman's panic.
at first i thought it was just bad thinking--something we are all prone to. but i heard her give this excuse right to the poor woman's face as if it made sense.
Ashmoria
04-05-2007, 01:08
most annoying person in my life at the mo, and for the last few months i guess, is actually a small group of three or four people working to 'bring down' our family business, and personally myself and my dad. they have publicly claimed we embezzled and defrauded a client, to which said client (as well as the treasurer and accountant) went "WTF? LOL!" they have worked subversively to turn others against us, and also harassed us in other ways. our response has been to just do our job and do it well so nobody else can complain.
the reason for their malcontent is that we won a contract for a project and they didn't. they didn't because they were fucking useless...
anyhoo, its annoying at the least and highly, deeply upsetting at the worst. and its been going on for months. we just hope that if we continue to do a great job people will just get tired of their whining.
that's harassment ;)
what awful people. i hope it blows up in their faces when people realize that they are trying to ruin you out of sour grapes.
Snafturi
04-05-2007, 01:08
if he doesn't know, then good for you and best wishes.
but you might want to look into such an investment. even caller ID.
such things can become evidence to show that he is stalking you and that he does pose a threat to your safety.
I do have caller ID. Doesn't work when he uses a calling card. I do call the police station every time he calls. At least it's on record.
I can always hope to get evidence. He's stolen everything he possibly could from me. I really hope he's done.
Yeah. I choose poorly with that relationship.
oh NOOOO snaf she HAS to do it. out of ....250 times a year there are 2 or 3 where someone might come in and take the lane when we leave and before she notices that we have left (she has to move over after a while because of a class that starts toward the end of her swim) i mean what if SHE was inconvenienced? her rather remote chance of inconveniece is FAR more important than the other woman's panic.
at first i thought it was just bad thinking--something we are all prone to. but i heard her give this excuse right to the poor woman's face as if it made sense.
Oh. Right. What was I thinking. The queen is doing the panicky lady a favor. She needs to get over her silly "fear" of water. I mean, who's afraid of water? Pft.
Seriously, I hate people like that. It's like everyone else is just a side character in the movie of their life.
Ashmoria
04-05-2007, 01:11
That requires a substantial investment. He's very thorough when he ransacks too:(. At least I have renter's insurance. It helps soften the blow.
I recently moved. I don't know if he knows where I live. No one except family knows where I live.
Edit: If this levy doesn't get passed, there's no garantee that Measure 11 (really bad) crimes will be prosecuted. With the budgget cuts on the table regardless, I don't know if the cops will do much.
Hooray! Oregon, the state with some of the highest taxes and least services!!
you mean that unless someone gets hurt its not a crime? (cant be a crime if the police wont investigate it)
what do they do about buglaries? or car theft?
or is it just single women getting their apartments trashed that doesnt count?
Snafturi
04-05-2007, 01:11
most annoying person in my life at the mo, and for the last few months i guess, is actually a small group of three or four people working to 'bring down' our family business, and personally myself and my dad. they have publicly claimed we embezzled and defrauded a client, to which said client (as well as the treasurer and accountant) went "WTF? LOL!" they have worked subversively to turn others against us, and also harassed us in other ways. our response has been to just do our job and do it well so nobody else can complain.
the reason for their malcontent is that we won a contract for a project and they didn't. they didn't because they were fucking useless...
anyhoo, its annoying at the least and highly, deeply upsetting at the worst. and its been going on for months. we just hope that if we continue to do a great job people will just get tired of their whining.
that's harassment ;)
Them's a**holes! I'm sorry your family is going through that.
Pure Metal
04-05-2007, 01:15
oh i forgot: all other drivers on the road are annoying. some are just tolerable annoying, some are.... worse.
coming out of (or going into) our office is a small junction onto fairly busy road, which is often congested. the junction itself is very busy as it leads on to parking for a number of offices in the block and also a hotel next door. as such there's a big "KEEP CLEAR" sign painted on the main road, and nobody ever queues over/blocks the junction partly because of the big sign and partly because it is such a busy junction.
well today i get in my car to leave, come to the junction and there's a woman sitting proudly right on the words 'KEEP CLEAR', in a pretty little car wearing stupid fashionable sunglasses and a silly haircut. as i edge ever closer to her car - trying to give the subtlest of hints to move forward so i can get round the back of her (the car behind left at least part of the junction open) - she was doing her absolute best to ignore me... staring intently in every direction but mine. all she had to do was ease up on the brake (or god forbid up on the clutch too if it was a manual car...) but i sat patiently for a while before giving her a nice long beep. i couldn't believe it when she looked offended like i'd done something wrong :rolleyes:
just a small - and comparitively minor example - of other drivers' annoyances. they probably build up to qualify as harassment, all told :p
Them's a**holes! I'm sorry your family is going through that.
thanks :)
it sucks but as i said, we're trying not to get drawn into it ("down to their level")
its just so amazingly petty...
Snafturi
04-05-2007, 01:19
you mean that unless someone gets hurt its not a crime? (cant be a crime if the police wont investigate it)
what do they do about buglaries? or car theft?
or is it just single women getting their apartments trashed that doesnt count?
Burglaries? You give your info to the non-emergency number. A cop will call if they need clarification, then they send you a report.
After July, you might not even get a report. I don't know where that leaves people with their insurance companies.
Car theft? See above.
Drugs? They will no longer be prosecuting meth and herion after July.
Basically someone has to get really hurt for there to be an investigation and prosecution. There's Measure 11 (assault, murder, rape, ect) walking around in downtown right now. There's no jail space to hold them. Good times!
Snafturi
04-05-2007, 01:21
thanks :)
it sucks but as i said, we're trying not to get drawn into it ("down to their level")
its just so amazingly petty...
It absolutely amazes me how much time an effort people put into the most inane things. Don't they realise that they are wasting their life?
Ashmoria
04-05-2007, 01:41
Burglaries? You give your info to the non-emergency number. A cop will call if they need clarification, then they send you a report.
After July, you might not even get a report. I don't know where that leaves people with their insurance companies.
Car theft? See above.
Drugs? They will no longer be prosecuting meth and herion after July.
Basically someone has to get really hurt for there to be an investigation and prosecution. There's Measure 11 (assault, murder, rape, ect) walking around in downtown right now. There's no jail space to hold them. Good times!
wow. thats just a tad dangerous eh? when the bad guys know that there is NO possibility of arrest, they have no reason to not do whatever they want to do.
are gun sales up in oregon?
Snafturi
04-05-2007, 01:45
wow. thats just a tad dangerous eh? when the bad guys know that there is NO possibility of arrest, they have no reason to not do whatever they want to do.
are gun sales up in oregon?
I have many. I have my concealed weapons permit. I have various strengths of pepper spray.
Just call me Rambo.
I do have caller ID. Doesn't work when he uses a calling card. I do call the police station every time he calls. At least it's on record.
I can always hope to get evidence. He's stolen everything he possibly could from me. I really hope he's done.
Yeah. I choose poorly with that relationship.
You chose to end it. that's good.
and an answering machine can record him. and even record your conversation. thus more evidence for the police.
also, if you have a battered women group. seek their help. they may have a lawyer willing to take your case. you may not be physically abused, but they can still help.
Ashmoria
04-05-2007, 01:51
I have many. I have my concealed weapons permit. I have various strengths of pepper spray.
Just call me Rambo.
im not much on guns, not even living in the middle of nowhere where the police cant possibly help me but i think that in your circumstances i would have a few at the ready.
Snafturi
04-05-2007, 02:01
You chose to end it. that's good.
and an answering machine can record him. and even record your conversation. thus more evidence for the police.
also, if you have a battered women group. seek their help. they may have a lawyer willing to take your case. you may not be physically abused, but they can still help.
I've been in contact with the battered womens group. They have limited resources, they call me from time to time to make sure I'm okay. I do need a voice recorder for my phone. It's legal to tape conversations as long as one person knows.
As long as he doesn't make personal contact with me, I'm happy. I can deal with the phone calls. I don't like it, but I can deal with the break ins. I don't want this to escalate to physical violence. This is a case where I'm probably best off laying low. He's got to get bored some day.
im not much on guns, not even living in the middle of nowhere where the police cant possibly help me but i think that in your circumstances i would have a few at the ready.
Yeah, they definately have a plus side. For the record, I think everyone who owns one should have to take a comprehensive safety class.
I've been in contact with the battered womens group. They have limited resources, they call me from time to time to make sure I'm okay. I do need a voice recorder for my phone. It's legal to tape conversations as long as one person knows.
As long as he doesn't make personal contact with me, I'm happy. I can deal with the phone calls. I don't like it, but I can deal with the break ins. I don't want this to escalate to physical violence. This is a case where I'm probably best off laying low. He's got to get bored some day.
he won't make personal contact as long as the restraining order is in place. but once it's up, it will be hard to renew it without the evidence.
and since I don't know how long it's been since you two 'broke up' I can only caution you that if he hasn't given up by now...
Anti-Social Darwinism
04-05-2007, 07:39
if someone calls you daily and emails you nearly 7 times a day claiming that they are going to sue you and calling you names......is that harassment?
also, who is the most annoying person in your life right now and why??
(mine is the person who is going to "sue" me)
Yes, it is harassment. Report it to the authorities so there will be something on file. Keep track of it - logging down dates and times and what was said. You can file a restraining order and as soon as the person violates it you can have said person arrested.
The person most irritating to me right now is my daughter. She just got her Master's degree in epidemiology and has embarked on the great job hunt - this involves shopping for interview clothes and a professional wardrobe. She hates clothes shopping so I have to drag her kickiing and screaming (sometimes literally) into various stores to try on and purchase clothes that aren't jeans and t-shirts.
Soviet Haaregrad
04-05-2007, 08:31
Yes, it is harassment. Report it to the authorities so there will be something on file. Keep track of it - logging down dates and times and what was said. You can file a restraining order and as soon as the person violates it you can have said person arrested.
The person most irritating to me right now is my daughter. She just got her Master's degree in epidemiology and has embarked on the great job hunt - this involves shopping for interview clothes and a professional wardrobe. She hates clothes shopping so I have to drag her kickiing and screaming (sometimes literally) into various stores to try on and purchase clothes that aren't jeans and t-shirts.
Professional and hates clothes shopping, what's her number? :p
Anti-Social Darwinism
04-05-2007, 08:51
Professional and hates clothes shopping, what's her number? :p
She hates clothes shopping, but she'll spend hundreds of dollars on books, music, comic books and her spiders.
Agawamawaga
04-05-2007, 13:31
That requires a substantial investment. He's very thorough when he ransacks too:(. At least I have renter's insurance. It helps soften the blow.
I recently moved. I don't know if he knows where I live. No one except family knows where I live.
Edit: If this levy doesn't get passed, there's no garantee that Measure 11 (really bad) crimes will be prosecuted. With the budgget cuts on the table regardless, I don't know if the cops will do much.
Hooray! Oregon, the state with some of the highest taxes and least services!!
I got a webcam for 20 bucks that includes software to make it a motion activated camera.
it would, of course, require having a computer, and leaving it on all the time...with a desktop, you could do it with the monitor off.
I have an evil ex, and thank goodness he really has no idea where I am. He also doesn't know my married name, so I'm fairly positive he won't be able to find me. I feel for you.
Smuckee...it is absolutly harassment. Call the police, and find out what you need to do to allow prosecution. That might be enough to show you want the contact to stop. Keep a log by the phone, and write down the time of every call. If anything is said, write it down. Keep any and all emails, Possibly print them all out, so you have proof.
Good luck, it sucks when good people are given trouble.
Snafturi
04-05-2007, 17:27
he won't make personal contact as long as the restraining order is in place. but once it's up, it will be hard to renew it without the evidence.
and since I don't know how long it's been since you two 'broke up' I can only caution you that if he hasn't given up by now...
It's been 2 yrs now. He apparently doesn't have that much of a life. I do gather evidence, there's not much unfortunately. Like I said, he learned a few things from court too. He learned what doesn't count as evidence.
I got a webcam for 20 bucks that includes software to make it a motion activated camera.
it would, of course, require having a computer, and leaving it on all the time...with a desktop, you could do it with the monitor off.
I have an evil ex, and thank goodness he really has no idea where I am. He also doesn't know my married name, so I'm fairly positive he won't be able to find me. I feel for you.
Smuckee...it is absolutly harassment. Call the police, and find out what you need to do to allow prosecution. That might be enough to show you want the contact to stop. Keep a log by the phone, and write down the time of every call. If anything is said, write it down. Keep any and all emails, Possibly print them all out, so you have proof.
Good luck, it sucks when good people are given trouble.
Thanks for the advice. I don't have a computer at my house, but when I get one I will definately look into investing in one.