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US and EU agree 'single market'

Ms Merkel will soon be Mr Bush's closest ally in the EU
The United States and the European Union have signed up to a new transatlantic economic partnership at a summit in Washington.

The pact is designed to boost trade and investment by harmonising regulatory standards, laying the basis for a US-EU single market.

The two sides also signed an Open Skies deal, designed to reduce fares and boost traffic on transatlantic flights.

But little of substance was agreed on climate change.

However, EU leaders were pleased that the US acknowledged human activity was a major cause.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6607757.stm

What are your thoughts on all of this? I think this is a good thing as it will bring Europe and the US closer together.

I tihnk the important question here is will our new supernation be called the United States of Europe and America, or the United States of America and Europe?

I think this is a good thing as it will bring Europe and the US closer together.

It ended badly the last time round.

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right so the US has realized how badly its fucked up the tourist industry and opened it up more to Europeans

so what did Ms Merkel do exactly other than realize the US still won't accept climate change

There will probably be more of this to come.

France is about to elect a man more friendly to the US, and Germany has Merkel.

Getting more friendly, despite the rantings of Europeans on this forum.

I'm getting the impression that European posters on this forum are hardly representative of their electorates.

I'm getting the impression that European posters on this forum are hardly representative of their electorates.

Europe's not hostile to any nation as shown by the fact that where still open to Turkey despite the occupation of Northern Cyprus

yeah European politicians are just as sucky as American politicians :(

There will probably be more of this to come.

France is about to elect a man more friendly to the US, and Germany has Merkel.

Getting more friendly, despite the rantings of Europeans on this forum.

I'm getting the impression that European posters on this forum are hardly representative of their electorates.

Its as if, all around the world, people suddenly went, "Dammit (Leader of your choice), youre pissing the US off!" and decided to elect people who were willing to speak civilly about the US.
Now, if only we could do something about our own leadership...

Does this mean nice cars will be cheaper? Also, I drink a tremendous amount of italian wine, so I can definitely see how this could benefit me. It'll be good for boeing too I imagine.

On the down side, I don't imagine the Europeans will be lining up to buy those horrible SUV things. Though maybe the US will develop some sense of taste from the closer interaction.

I'm getting the impression that European posters on this forum are hardly representative of their electorates.

I have got the impression that American posters on this forum are hardly representative of their electorates, too. ;)

I have got the impression that American posters on this forum are hardly representative of their electorates, too. ;)

Indeed, most US citizens are modestly intelligent, quiet types whose sole occupation is making enough money to get to retirement.
Of course, the US is what we call a 'diverse' population. It is rather difficult to stereotype every citizen into a single handy description, considering the cultural differnces between, say, New York and Texas.

Indeed, most US citizens are modestly intelligent, quiet types whose sole occupation is making enough money to get to retirement.
Of course, the US is what we call a 'diverse' population. It is rather difficult to stereotype every citizen into a single handy description, considering the cultural differnces between, say, New York and Texas.

The notion of grouping either New Yorkers or Texans under the labels of "intelligent" or "quiet" types boggles the mind.

Indeed, most US citizens are modestly intelligent, quiet types whose sole occupation is making enough money to get to retirement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=migOHydORfc

sorry I had to :D

Of course whether they like the US *IS* the only criterion for a european leader right?

It's not like the French are going for Sarkozy because quite frankly their current system is crap? Or because Royal is annoying?

Or the Germans went for Merkel because they thought she was a good economic candidate?

And as for Britain... well we don;t get much choice but it's looking like Labour are losing ground and they are the ones really into the 'special relationship'.

But that's more that the Scots prefer the idea of independence and the rest of us are voting for our city councils...

I had no idea such proposals were even in the air. It'll be of interest to see where this leads. I am indifferent to a degree though; the EU constitution is a far more urgent matter.

The notion of grouping either New Yorkers or Texans under the labels of "intelligent" or "quiet" types boggles the mind.
Who said I was talking about New Yorkers with that particular example? I was thinking of Oregon, actually. Or Arizona.
in b4 'LOL U HAV TEH MINUTMINZ LOL!'

i don't know how this will affect my life, so i don't really have an opinion on it. anybody knows what the effects will be? especialy for the car-industry


There will probably be more of this to come.

France is about to elect a man more friendly to the US, and Germany has Merkel.

Getting more friendly, despite the rantings of Europeans on this forum.

I'm getting the impression that European posters on this forum are hardly representative of their electorates.

i don't reallly think that anyone voted for Sarkozy or Merkel because they are friendly towards the US. you must also consider that large parts of the European voters are to old to visit internet forums, wich are typically visited by a younger public.

Although I see this as having all sorts of economic benefits, it really throws a wrench in my personal plans...

I wrote a fifty-page paper at the end of my undergraduate degree on what Canada would have to do in order to enter the EU, so that it could reap the benefits of acting as a bridge between the US and Europe. It was my plan to go ahead and implement my strategy someday... Now, if the US and EU come together on their own (It did not seem like a very likely possibility when I wrote my paper a few years ago), we will just have to go back to being frozen farmers rather than international shipping magnates.

I think closer links between the EU and the US is a good idea, we might finally get Atlanticism back on track.....we're the two major democratic forces of the world, working together is what we should be doing.

A reduction in childish insults on both sides is all we need now ;) .

Although I see this as having all sorts of economic benefits, it really throws a wrench in my personal plans...

I wrote a fifty-page paper at the end of my undergraduate degree on what Canada would have to do in order to enter the EU, so that it could reap the benefits of acting as a bridge between the US and Europe. It was my plan to go ahead and implement my strategy someday... Now, if the US and EU come together on their own (It did not seem like a very likely possibility when I wrote my paper a few years ago), we will just have to go back to being frozen farmers rather than international shipping magnates.

Canada would never be admitted to the EU.

Indeed Canada will never be in the EU, but the two will merge sooner then the USA and the EU will. If you're looking for a nation anywhere in the world to be as similar as possible to the EU, then Canada is it.

There will probably be more of this to come.

France is about to elect a man more friendly to the US, and Germany has Merkel.

Getting more friendly, despite the rantings of Europeans on this forum.

I'm getting the impression that European posters on this forum are hardly representative of their electorates.
Oh come on. Do you honestly think that all Europeans on this forum, let alone Europeans as a whole, are rabid anti-Americans? Sure, you'll be hard pressed to find someone who likes George Bush, but that doesn't infer any hatred of the USA or its people.

And for the record, neither German federal elections or French Presidential elections are anything like referenda on Antlanticism.

And on topic, if this can help improve EU-US economies in the long run, I can't complain.

Canada would never be admitted to the EU.Sure it would, it's British after all. Australia could come too.;)

Its as if, all around the world, people suddenly went, "Dammit (Leader of your choice), youre pissing the US off!" and decided to elect people who were willing to speak civilly about the US.
Now, if only we could do something about our own leadership...

Give us time. Unfortunately, the only viable option for us are going to be either a Democrat or a Republican. Most likely our next President will be a Democrat, I support I should start taking money out of my investments in burying it in offshore accounts before my taxes start to increase.

Good.

Does this mean nice cars will be cheaper? Also, I drink a tremendous amount of italian wine, so I can definitely see how this could benefit me. It'll be good for boeing too I imagine.

On the down side, I don't imagine the Europeans will be lining up to buy those horrible SUV things. Though maybe the US will develop some sense of taste from the closer interaction.

You know you can get European Cars really cheap already. You just have to travel to Europe for vacation buy you car there, drive it around for a while and then bring it home. Several of the EU auto manufactures offer programs that will bring Americans to Europe to try their vehicles. You pay the EU price for the car, and get to use it on your vacation. Then they ship it to the US, with the required emmissions equipment and you pay sales tax, and because the car is used you pay a lower import tax. I recently has coworker by a BMW this way.

Give us time. Unfortunately, the only viable option for us are going to be either a Democrat or a Republican. Most likely our next President will be a Democrat, I support I should start taking money out of my investments in burying it in offshore accounts before my taxes start to increase.
LOL...to this:D I already have connections in Switzerland, perhaps I should do the same.

Anyway, I think this is a good sign...but I think what would be even cooler would be a giant Anglo-Economic Union....between America, Canda, Australia, New Zealand, Britain and perhaps ZA if they get rid of their stupid goverment....though actually be better if all the Afrikaaner just left that corrupt shithole and moved to America or England....then we could truley say goodbye to a nation that once had potential.

The European Continent could do whatever it likes with its Union, and the Anglo countries would have an amazing Anglo-economic union...and perhaps more if that worked out....

*Sigh*....One can only dream.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=525548

Yuo know you can get European Cars really cheap already. You just have to travel to Europe for vacation buy you car there, drive it around for a while and then bring it home. Several of the EU auto manufactures offer programs that will bring Americans to Europe to try their vehicles. You pay the EU price for the car, and get to use it on your vacation. Then they ship it to the US, with the required emmissions equipment and you pay sales tax, and because the car is used you pay a lower import tax. I recently has coworker by a BMW this way.

Yah, I know about that, but I spend most of my time in Europe in the UK, so the steering wheel would be on the wrong side. :mad:

Also, I'm pretty impatient about stuff. I couldn't wait for the shipping.

I definately think this ia a great occurance. The Us and many European nations already have close ties. Sure that strained now, but this can only help to bridge our economies and ease the political pains

I think this new partnership is a good idea. More cooperation across the Atlantic should...hopefully...heal a few wounds formed between Europe and the US in recent years.

As for what we should call the future supernation...How about the "Pan-Atlantic Federation"? Has a ring to it.

I tihnk the important question here is will our new supernation be called the United States of Europe and America, or the United States of America and Europe?

How about NAFTA? North Atlantic Free Trade Area

AU = Atlantic Union

right so the US has realized how badly its fucked up the tourist industry and opened it up more to Europeans

so what did Ms Merkel do exactly other than realize the US still won't accept climate change

Who the hell would want to visit the U.S.? It's all full of murder and guns and fat people and stupid and other badness.

How about NAFTA? North Atlantic Free Trade Area

I believe you are thinking about the North AMERICAN Free Trade AGREEMENT

AU = Atlantic Union

What about the African Union whose abbrev is also AU.