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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/02/oreilly-derogatory/

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That's more often than I think about sex! :eek:


...almost.

That's more then you would expect, which is saying a lot.

The most despicable man in television (history?).

The most despicable man in television (history?).

Currently for sure. Otherwise it depends on whether Joseph McCarthy ever appeared on television.

Currently for sure. Otherwise it depends on whether Joseph McCarthy ever appeared on television.

The Army trials.
But he didn't have his own talk show. So, perhaps most despicable man in talk show history?

I pity the poor researchers that had to watch six months of Bill O'Reilly to get us this study.

The Army trials.
But he didn't have his own talk show. So, perhaps most despicable man in talk show history?

Indeed. I nominate Paula Zahn or Oprah to be his female counterpart.

Worst person in TV history? Nah. He comes right behind those terrorists that behead people on camera.

Worst person in TV history? Nah. He comes right behind those terrorists that behead people on camera.

But those aren't intruding into your life as abrasively as O'Reily.

But those aren't intruding into your life as abrasively as O'Reily.

Yea, I mean having a loud mouth blowhard who we all know is skewed heavily to the right is worse than seeing your fellow countryman being beheaded by terrorist assholes. :rolleyes:

Yea, I mean having a loud mouth blowhard who we all know is skewed heavily to the right is worse than seeing your fellow countryman being beheaded by terrorist assholes. :rolleyes:

I didn't say that. I merely said it's much more likely that you'll have to put up with O'Reily then you will a beheading video.

Unless, of course, somebody posts them on NSG. Man, was that an annoying day. I didn't even visit the thread, to be honest. The moderation forum was appalling enough.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/02/oreilly-derogatory/

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Just...like everyone....else....on t.v....:(

Yea, I mean having a loud mouth blowhard who we all know is skewed heavily to the right is worse than seeing your fellow countryman being beheaded by terrorist assholes. :rolleyes:
That's happened what, once, twice in the last five years? And it wouldn't have happened at all if we hadn't invaded a country we had no reason to invade. O'Reilly, however, he's on the air five nights a week at least 40 weeks a year. That shit builds up, you know--it's cumulative. You can't just wash that off at the end of the night like you can an Anderson Cooper or Greta Van Susteren.

Just...like everyone....else....on t.v....:(

Not just like everyone else on tv. No one else rises to the level of douchebaggery O'Reilly does as consistently as he does. Even Hannity is tempered somewhat by Colmes. I can't tell you how much I hate this simple-minded "everyone does it the same" argument.

Oh Billy boy. Never fails to fail. hard.

I remember seeing this articles about O'Reilly in which a child was abducted and abused/raped for over 5 years before escaping, O'Reilly said the kid had it easy because he didn't have to go to school or do homework, it was like mega wtf!?

That's happened what, once, twice in the last five years? And it wouldn't have happened at all if we hadn't invaded a country we had no reason to invade. O'Reilly, however, he's on the air five nights a week at least 40 weeks a year. That shit builds up, you know--it's cumulative. You can't just wash that off at the end of the night like you can an Anderson Cooper or Greta Van Susteren.



Not just like everyone else on tv. No one else rises to the level of douchebaggery O'Reilly does as consistently as he does. Even Hannity is tempered somewhat by Colmes. I can't tell you how much I hate this simple-minded "everyone does it the same" argument.

There is Glenn Beck. His almost up there with 'OReilly. Only differences is Mr. Beck seems to think he's funny. Which he isn't.

The most despicable man in television (history?).

Wrong...that title goes to Rosie O'donnell O' Reilly can at least occasionally back up his arguments with actual facts Rosie tends to just blurt things out that pop into her ignorant head ..and yes I am saying that "she" is a man.

I remember seeing this articles about O'Reilly in which a child was abducted and abused/raped for over 5 years before escaping, O'Reilly said the kid had it easy because he didn't have to go to school or do homework, it was like mega wtf!?

I'd like to see that article...not trying to be a smart ass I seriously would like to see that...

Wrong...that title goes to Rosie O'donnell O' Reilly can at least occasionally back up his arguments with actual facts Rosie tends to just blurt things out that pop into her ignorant head ..and yes I am saying that "she" is a man.

Doesn't she believe Loose Change?

I'd like to see that article...not trying to be a smart ass I seriously would like to see that...

Hold on...

I believe so... but I think of Rosie as I think of a very young child...easily entertained and ignorant to anything that isn't "my way"...you could throw anything together with some nifty pictures or charts etc etc and you could have her believing anything you want...

I believe the kids name was Shawn Hornbeck

I believe so... but I think of Rosie as I think of a very young child...easily entertained and ignorant to anything that isn't "my way"...you could throw anything together with some nifty pictures or charts etc etc and you could have her believing anything you want...

Yeah. According to my mom, she ruined The View. I imagine that wouldn't take much effort, though.

Thank you... I've found several articles about what you were referring to should keep me busy for a bit reading them over..

Well she could actually have been good for the view if she actually used logical reason and facts in her arguments...and of course bashing our soldiers like she did today doesn't help her already horrible image..

Wrong...that title goes to Rosie O'donnell O' Reilly can at least occasionally back up his arguments with actual facts Rosie tends to just blurt things out that pop into her ignorant head ..and yes I am saying that "she" is a man.
O'Reilly can occasionally back up his arguments with facts? Like that fact about WW2 atrocities that he got totally wrong? I'm referring back to the time he tried to justify the scandal at Abu Ghraib prison by claiming that atrocities are just a part of wars and the US had done it before, when US forces massacred unarmed German SS soldiers who were prisoners of war at the French village of Malmedy.

Of course, the FACT was that it was the SS who murdered 84 unarmed American prisoners of war at Malmedy, not the other way around.

Here's a transcript of a description of Bill-O's little "mistake", which he repeated TWICE, laid out for us courtesy of Bill's worst nightmare, his ratings rival Keith Olbermann who lives and breathes only to throw O'Reilly's words back in his face.

http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2006/06/bill_oreilly_sc.html

And if you don't believe Olbermann, you can always look up the Malmedy atrocity yourself.

Or you can continue to try to deflect the issue with your homophobic jibes against Rosie O'Donnell and irrelevant remarks about that god-awful mess The View, neither of which have anything at all to do with whether O'Reilly is a dick or not.

Well she could actually have been good for the view if she actually used logical reason and facts in her arguments...and of course bashing our soldiers like she did today doesn't help her already horrible image..
I don't really consider them my soldiers, but that's beside the point.
Do you have a link or something?

O Reilly is a dick...but he still does use facts and more logical arguments than Rosie can't argue that and I agree the view is a mess I feel sorry for Barbra horrible way for her to end out her career hopefully she turns things around.....and I'm not Homophobic...if you Google Shawn Hornbeck O'Reilly it comes up with several different links about how he was blaming the victim etc etc...and I won't even begin on Keith Olbermann...what we really need is a 3rd party news group without a political Bias...I'm tired of having to watch 2 seperate channels at once to get the entire story...

O Reilly is a dick...but he still does use facts and more logical arguments than Rosie can't argue that and I agree the view is a mess I feel sorry for Barbra horrible way for her to end out her career hopefully she turns things around.....and I'm not Homophobic...if you Google Shawn Hornbeck O'Reilly it comes up with several different links about how he was blaming the victim etc etc...

I agree with you that O'Reilly is a dick.

However, I say that O'Reilly uses facts the way other people use toilet paper.

And if you are comparing O'Reilly's function in the world to O'Donnell's, then you are in for a rough but boring time of it becuase they do not compare. Believe it or not, there is more than one kind of bullshit in the world, and O'Reilly and O'Donnell, though both bullshit artists, do not spew the same stuff. O'Donnell is a comedienne turned talk show personality. Period. Her bullshit is in all her pretentions to be anything but that -- EDIT: and in thinking that she is still (or was ever) funny, of course.

O'Reilly claims to be a journalist. He claims to be providing insightful and informed commentary on serious world affairs that affect people's lives and the way they might vote. And he is a liar. O'Reilly's bullshit is about his own professional credentials, his political connections, and his claims about what is really happening in the world.

Rosie O'Donnell shoots her mouth off because she is a loud-mouthed idiot. Her bullshit only makes her look stupider. But she is just like any other idiot in the world, with no claims that we should be paying attention to her.

Bill O'Reilly shoots his mouth off because he thinks he can influence others and gets off on the power rush. His bullshit slanders war heroes and victims of crimes, it turns truth into lie, and it promotes fear-mongering and hate-mongering rhetoric. And all the while he claims to be giving us straight information and that we should trust him about it.

So, I consider O'Reilly to be infinitely more offensive than O'Donnell.

And as for the poor suffering multi-millionares who co-host The View, I'll make a note to myself to weep for them one of these days. That show is crap, has always been crap, and can't be canceled fast enough to suit me. In fact, I wish The View and The O'Reilly Factor would disappear from the world at the same time.

"And as for the poor suffering multi-millionares who co-host The View, I'll make a note to myself to weep for them one of these days. That show is crap, has always been crap, and can't be canceled fast enough to suit me. In fact, I wish The View and The O'Reilly Factor would disappear from the world at the same time..."...Barbra had an excellent Journalistic career...and has basically ruined it with the View.sucks for her and I liked some of her earlier Interviews etc etc...again we need a 3rd party group..of course this isn't going to happen... so I'll just have to watch simulcasts off my Satellite..I find almost all media figures to be "dicks" just cancel them all and be done with it...its basically to the point where 3/4 of each news show is spent bashing their rival station and with pointless dialect just for entertainment...if I wanted entertainment I would watch HBO or something..where did all the actual "news" go..?

"And as for the poor suffering multi-millionares who co-host The View, I'll make a note to myself to weep for them one of these days. That show is crap, has always been crap, and can't be canceled fast enough to suit me. In fact, I wish The View and The O'Reilly Factor would disappear from the world at the same time..."...Barbra had an excellent Journalistic career...and has basically ruined it with the View.sucks for her and I liked some of her earlier Interviews etc etc...again we need a 3rd party group..of course this isn't going to happen... so I'll just have to watch simulcasts off my Satellite..I find almost all media figures to be "dicks" just cancel them all and be done with it...
Learn to use the quotes function. It is your friend. The way you posted this, it looks as if you are repeating my words as your own.

As to Barbara Walters, are you familiar with the term "IRRELEVANT"?

Who cares about Barbara Walters' career? We are discussing Bill O'Reilly's. Also we are not discussing media bias in general. We are discussing Bill O'Reilly. Quit trying to hijack this thread away from him.

The Army trials.
But he didn't have his own talk show. So, perhaps most despicable man in talk show history?Rush Limbaugh actually had a TV show for a little while.

I know how to use the quote button....and sorry for attempting to have an intelligent conversation,having someone agree that Bill O is a dick over and over makes for a very dull thread and is honestly quite stupid.

Also is it really necessary to start a bash Bill O thread after every show? I see one at least one of these threads every week soon after his show goes off air.

However if you insist on continuing with aimless bashing, which serves absolutely no purpose to anyone other than perhaps personal amusement, then by all means continue with your pointless babble.

Rush Limbaugh actually had a TV show for a little while.
Rush isn't as bad as O'Riley. Not by a long shot. Yes, Rush is a disgusting misogynistic monster, but he never denies his strongly anti-liberal bias. In fact, he advertises it. Also, he's occasionally funny and doesn't like to ban most things.

Bill O'Riley attempts to say that his show is some kind bias free awesome thing that it isn't and stuff.
I'm tired.

However if you insist on continuing with aimless bashing, which serves absolutely no purpose to anyone other than perhaps personal amusement, then by all means continue with your pointless babble.
When you get right down to it, everything is pointless. Except when it isn't.

There are plenty of things that aren't pointless to discuss.. unless you have a severe pessimistic stance on things then perhaps you're just waiting to die..but starting a thread every week after a Bill O show to discuss how stupid he is etc etc is pointless..and for the recored I am not a Bill O supporter..I have started watching the BBC to get my news information...

When you get right down to it, everything is pointless.
a sharpened pencil isn't.
so there.

a sharpened pencil isn't.
so there.

neither are various types of knives, screws, nails, scissors, etc etc..perhaps a better term would be meaningless.

a sharpened pencil isn't.
so there.

How dare you quote me out of context. You know damn well that my original statement included an exception. You're... you're just like O'Riley. My God.

How dare you quote me out of context. You know damn well that my original statement included an exception. You're... you're just like O'Riley. My God.
Damn! I've been outed!

I mean, surely not that repulsive and obnoxious?

O'Reiley's only fault is his failure to be Liberal. I've heard just as much of that out of Franken or Baldwin on the radio but it's all good as long as they're mean to the right people.

Double standard, anyone?

Just...like everyone....else....on t.v....:(

you have info to back this up?

O'Reiley's only fault is his failure to be Liberal. I've heard just as much of that out of Franken or Baldwin on the radio but it's all good as long as they're mean to the right people.

Double standard, anyone?

Then I'm sure you can back that up with some empirical evidence. Might be difficult as Franken isn't on the air anymore, since he's running for the Senate in Minnesota in 2008 and Baldwin (assuming you mean Alec) isn't on the air as a commentator at all, but I feel confident that you'll be able t reach into that same cavity you pulled the above comment out of and retrieve something resembling evidence to back up your "claim."

That's happened what, once, twice in the last five years? And it wouldn't have happened at all if we hadn't invaded a country we had no reason to invade. O'Reilly, however, he's on the air five nights a week at least 40 weeks a year. That shit builds up, you know--it's cumulative. You can't just wash that off at the end of the night like you can an Anderson Cooper or Greta Van Susteren.



Not just like everyone else on tv. No one else rises to the level of douchebaggery O'Reilly does as consistently as he does. Even Hannity is tempered somewhat by Colmes. I can't tell you how much I hate this simple-minded "everyone does it the same" argument.
And of course you were FORCED to watch by that evil Fox network
hint the TV has an off switch:headbang:

you have info to back this up?

Ever seen T.V? Alot of assholes on that thing...

And of course you were FORCED to watch by that evil Fox network
hint the TV has an off switch:headbang:

Actually, I never watch Fox News. I just read about the aftermath. Hint: there's this thing called the internet, and it's full of information. I'll spare you the headbanging smiley.

Rush isn't as bad as O'Riley. Not by a long shot. Yes, Rush is a disgusting misogynistic monster, but he never denies his strongly anti-liberal bias. In fact, he advertises it. Also, he's occasionally funny and doesn't like to ban most things.

Bill O'Riley attempts to say that his show is some kind bias free awesome thing that it isn't and stuff.
I'm tired.
I don't know about that. Rush, O'Reilly, Glen Beck, and let's not forget even fading stars like Anne Coulter, they all say things that are jaw-droppingly horrid and say them pretty much every chance they get. Ridicule is the best weapon to use against such types, in my opinion.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/02/oreilly-derogatory/

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You actually believe that? LOL! Nice try dude, but that is as real as Michael Jackson's nose.:rolleyes:


Nothing more than Left-Wingers attacking him for no just cause. I see him almost everyday...I can say based on acutally seeing his show that the article is pure crap. Try again and fail. 6.8 seconds? Please, that number alone should send up red flags on about how true it is.

You actually believe that? LOL! Nice try dude, but that is as real as Michael Jackson's nose.:rolleyes:


Nothing more than Left-Wingers attacking him for no just cause. I see him almost everyday...I can say based on acutally seeing his show that the article is pure crap. Try again and fail. 6.8 seconds? Please, that number alone should send up red flags on about how true it is.

Perhaps you'd like to write to the University of Indiana and ask them the methodology they used for their study. I've seen his show many times and no matter how many times he claims to "never tell people to shut up" he does in fact tell people to shut up all the time. Unless you can refute the study and prove it to be poorly formed or intentionally misleading then I suggest you swallow the bitter pill as the evidence is there. Since you are an O'Reilly fan I suppose you have no bias towards him right? Upon what empirical basis so you claim this study to be wrong? Or is it just your personal opinion which counts for as much as anyone cares for it to? I know Bill is a kind, caring, and Christian man but to quote a song that has more credibility than he does "respected highly, hi Mr. O'Reilly, hope all is well kiss the PLAINTIFF AND THE WIFEY." Bill O'Reilly is a blowhard who's as right as a broken block. I'll wait for you to get over your "nuh huh, no way man" well articulated response and come back with empirical evidence that supports your claim the study is wrong. Otherwise I'll quote your hero and say "SHUT UP!"

Ever seen T.V? Alot of assholes on that thing...

and your completely non-empirical ad hom argument proves? I agree with you there are a lot of dicks on tv, but who among them has been proven to attack, namecall, and be negative every 6.8 seconds?

STUDY: Bill O’Reilly Uses Derogatory Names ‘More Than Once Every Seven Seconds’

oreilly2.jpgA new study by Indiana University media researchers finds that Fox News host Bill O’Reilly calls “a person or a group a derogatory name once every 6.8 seconds, on average, or nearly nine times every minute during the editorials that open his program each night.”

The study documented six months worth, or 115 episodes, of O’Reilly’s “Talking Points Memo” editorials “using propaganda analysis techniques made popular after World War I.” Researchers found that O’Reilly “was prone to inject fear into his commentaries and quick to resort to name-calling. He also frequently assigned roles or attributes — such as ‘villians’ or downright ‘evil’ — to people and groups.

Some findings from the study:

– Fear was used in more than half (52.4 percent) of the commentaries, and O’Reilly almost never offered a resolution to the threat. For example, in a commentary on “left-wing” media unfairly criticizing Attorney Gen. Alberto Gonzales for his role in the Abu Ghraib scandal, O’Reilly considered this an example of America “slowly losing freedom and core values,” and added, “So what can be done? Unfortunately, not much.”

– The researchers identified 22 groups of people that O’Reilly referenced in his commentaries, and while all 22 were described by O’Reilly as bad at some point, the people and groups most frequently labeled bad were the political left — Americans as a group and the media (except those media considered by O’Reilly to be on the right).

– Left-leaning media (21.6 percent) made up the largest portion of bad people/groups, and media without a clear political leaning was the second largest (12.2 percent). When it came to evil people and groups, illegal aliens (26.8 percent) and terrorists (21.4 percent) were the largest groups.

The techniques used by Indiana University researchers to study O’Reilly were also “used during the late 1930s to study another prominent voice in a war-era, Father Charles Coughlin. His sermons evolved into a darker message of anti-Semitism and fascism, and he became a defender of Hitler and Mussolini.” The researchers note, “O’Reilly is a heavier and less-nuanced user of the propaganda devices than Coughlin.”

UPDATE: O’Reilly, 2/27/06: “I don’t do personal attacks here.” (http://mediamatters.org/items/200602270001?f=h_top)

O'Reiley's only fault is his failure to be Liberal. I've heard just as much of that out of Franken or Baldwin on the radio but it's all good as long as they're mean to the right people.

Double standard, anyone?

Yeah his only fault:rolleyes: