NationStates Jolt Archive


Bias is back in basketball!

Drunk commies deleted
02-05-2007, 18:17
No, Len Bias (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/longterm/memories/bias/launch/biasfrnt.htm) hasn't risen from the grave. A study has concluded that white refs in the NBA call fouls more often against black players than against white ones.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/05/01/study-nba-referees-call-_n_47425.html

Personally with the disproportionate black representation in the NBA I welcome this form of affirmative action to help minority white players.
The_pantless_hero
02-05-2007, 18:20
No, Len Bias (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/longterm/memories/bias/launch/biasfrnt.htm) hasn't risen from the grave. A study has concluded that white refs in the NBA call fouls more often against black players than against white ones.
How did they manage to conduct this? Get all 10 of the white players on one team?
Drunk commies deleted
02-05-2007, 18:22
More on bias in basketball.

http://923freefm.com/pages/154426.php
Dexlysia
02-05-2007, 18:26
No, Len Bias (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/longterm/memories/bias/launch/biasfrnt.htm) hasn't risen from the grave. A study has concluded that white refs in the NBA call fouls more often against black players than against white ones.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/05/01/study-nba-referees-call-_n_47425.html

Personally with the disproportionate black representation in the NBA I welcome this form of affirmative action to help minority white players.

Does this mean relative to the demographics of the NBA, or just the sheer number of fouls?
Khadgar
02-05-2007, 18:26
There are no white players in the NBA. Everyone knows that. The last whitie was Larry Bird.
The Bourgeosie Elite
02-05-2007, 18:40
Egghiccup;12602650']You do know that most american national sports are just larger versions of U.K children's school games (mostly girlie ones as well)?

Basketball = netball

Baseball = rounders

Nascar = Scalextric

Actually, the UK children's school games are mock-ups of American national sports.
The Bourgeosie Elite
02-05-2007, 19:03
Egghiccup;12602711']http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounders

netball is taken from the American - I admit defeaton that one.

Nascar - might as well be slot car racing (what is wrong with proper racing tracks?) Do the drivers have to keep changing direction for each race so as not to get one arm more overdeveloped than the other?

Interesting--glad you have come to the light :). I had no intention of actually debating the minutiae--I wanted to point out that making such spurious claims are really a matter of perspective, and ultimately even if one precedes the other, the second is not necessarily a "copy" of the first.

For Nascar: good question. And I have no idea, though I don't think they do.
The Nazz
02-05-2007, 19:13
No, Len Bias (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/longterm/memories/bias/launch/biasfrnt.htm) hasn't risen from the grave. A study has concluded that white refs in the NBA call fouls more often against black players than against white ones.

I didn't come into the thread earlier because I'd already read the article--the NBA is saying there's some serious methodological flaws with the study--but Zombie Len Bias was the first thing I thought of when I saw the title.
Zarakon
02-05-2007, 19:29
Egghiccup;12602711']http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounders

netball is taken from the American - I admit defeaton that one.

Nascar - might as well be slot car racing (what is wrong with proper racing tracks?) Do the drivers have to keep changing direction for each race so as not to get one arm more overdeveloped than the other?

Nascar was originally devised as a way for moonshiners to show off.
TJHairball
02-05-2007, 19:37
All told, a 4.5% difference is very small, if we're talking 1.00 fouls per whatever vs 1.045 fouls per whatever.
Vittos the City Sacker
02-05-2007, 23:55
The study is decidedly lacking, even if it does possess some truth.
Kiryu-shi
02-05-2007, 23:57
Technical fouls for clapping and laughing in the NBA playoffs... I knew there was a reason why I didn't watch the NBA. [/semi-related complaint]
The_pantless_hero
02-05-2007, 23:59
All told, a 4.5% difference is very small, if we're talking 1.00 fouls per whatever vs 1.045 fouls per whatever.
Then we also take into account the number of white people in the game..
Maybe if there was a team that was 50+% white, we might have a problem but since it's more like 1 or 2 per team, I fail to see the possibly serious problem.
UnHoly Smite
03-05-2007, 00:06
BLAH! This is just more proof americans need something to bitch about to be happy. Nothing to see here folks, move on.
UNITIHU
03-05-2007, 01:20
Egghiccup;12602650']You do know that most american national sports are just larger versions of U.K children's school games (mostly girlie ones as well)?

Basketball = netball

Baseball = rounders

Nascar = Scalextric

Nascar blows anyways, you can take it. If I wanted to watch car racing, I'd watch rally or at least that one in Monaco. Not this oval bullshit.
Soviet Haaregrad
03-05-2007, 01:54
NASCAR isn't so much a televised sport as a screensaver for your TV.
New Manvir
03-05-2007, 02:05
There are no white players in the NBA. Everyone knows that. The last whitie was Larry Bird.

who was the NBA's MVP for the last two years?
CthulhuFhtagn
03-05-2007, 02:24
who was the NBA's MVP for the last two years?

Michael Jordan.
Delator
03-05-2007, 08:54
There are no white players in the NBA. Everyone knows that. The last whitie was Larry Bird.

Larry is not white....Larry is clear. :p
Flatus Minor
03-05-2007, 09:16
NASCAR isn't so much a televised sport as a screensaver for your TV.

That's worth a sig. :cool:
Anoniche
03-05-2007, 09:27
No, Len Bias (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/longterm/memories/bias/launch/biasfrnt.htm) hasn't risen from the grave. A study has concluded that white refs in the NBA call fouls more often against black players than against white ones.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/05/01/study-nba-referees-call-_n_47425.html

Personally with the disproportionate black representation in the NBA I welcome this form of affirmative action to help minority white players.

A "study" with my own eyes has declared that there's a disproportionate amount of black players in comparison to fewer white players, why doesn't anyone bring that up? What a joke. pc alert
Harlesburg
03-05-2007, 12:06
OMG there is like 1 token white guy on every team!!!:p