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Since NSG is getting real tedious with all its wrangling and shouting, I decided to bring back one of the old time fun threads. Zombies.

Let's say that it's mid-2007, and all of a sudden there's an outbreak of zombie plague. Now these aren't the usual mindless masses of shambling undead. Instead, it's got a more feral nature. Victims become extremely aggressive and practically rocket fueled. That is to say they move fast, are very strong and can't be stopped short of extreme trauma damage to the head or the practical destruction of the torso (40% of the total flesh mass destroyed). Infection is via fluids, so if they wound you and their saliva or blood comes into contact with your blood, you get infected. Same if you end up swallowing their blood. Depending on how much you were infected with, zombifying can take anywhere from a few minutes to a few seconds.

Now lets say that every city with a population of over 50,000 has one set of 4 zombies from a central point starting their rampage. Probably in a densely populated area. By the time authorities respond in some force, there's some 100 to 200 odd zombies out running around putting the bite on people.

It's been roughly half an hour since the outbreak has begun. News is sketchy, but most major networks have just begun to cover what they think is a riot. Video feed within the first 30 seconds in one city however, dispels that idea. Authorities try to clamp down on the information, but it's too late. Panic starts spreading among cities where riots are ongoing and the situation deteriorates rapidly.

Now, let's say you've just woken up, drunk your coffee, and you caught this news flash. What do you do? Also, what do you imagine national leaders of various countries would do?

EDIT: If left alone, they don't decay and die out quickly. So no outlasting the zombie plague.

I for one welcome our new undead overlords.

Look the doors and windows. Stay away from all of them and get any weapon handy. National leaders would call in the army or special forces to deal with the situtaion and hide themselves somewhere.

Grab my shotgun, make for the nearest army depo and then make war on the zombies in the local shopping centre. :sniper:

Run like hell to the nearest gun store. If close, break the doors down, steal as much ammo as I could for my rifle, steal as much weaponry as I could, and ammunition for it as I could, make my home(Very close to where I live, and is in the middle of nowhere), steal as much non perishable food as I can from teh local grocery, head to my home, and fortify the shit out of it. Then, I wait it out. I could get that done all in less than two hours. More than enough time to flee the outbreak. Of course, I would bring as many friends/family as I could, and tell them where I'm at, and have them come, but I am not going to make special arrangement for to many people.

Go out, find the nearest zombie, and become one myself.

Either that or I go out looting.

i live relatively far away from a large city, so i would probably trie to get a lot of food and water and beer, some chainsaws or axes or baseballbats with barbed wire round it and barricade myself in a mall or a secret army-base. then wait till the zombies die and trie to survive. then i would search some girls and start to repopulate the world.
or i could go to the closest harbor, find a boat and go to the closest island without many inhabitants and enjoy the weather and cocktails and wait until the mainland zombies die. then i would search some girls and start to repopulate the world.
if the zombies won't die for whatever reason i would just trie to have some fun and kill myself before the zombies get me.

Grab my shotgun, make for the nearest army depo and then make war on the zombies in the local shopping centre. :sniper:

Considering that shopping centers are the most likely high density spot where the zombie outbreak begins....

Remember, these aren't slow moving target practice boards. They're fast moving and vicious. Hand to hand combat with them, even with implements like chainsaws, is suicidal.

Me and my brother actually had a serious discussion about this the other night.

The consensus was that we'd head out to my old cadet unit with a 10 pound lump hammer and go through the back wall into the armoury, take two L86s and a number 8 rifle with about 20 mags for the L86s and a couple of boxes of ammo for the number 8. Then grab a couple of boxes of compo rations from the stores and head for a place called Hartshead pike in the Pennines. Then we could just wait it out there in peace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartshead_Pike
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L86

If I've just woken up and had my coffee, I'm still at home sitting on more firepower than everyone else in NS General put together...

Let's say that it's mid-2007, and all of a sudden there's an outbreak of zombie plague. Now these aren't the usual mindless masses of shambling undead. Instead, it's got a more feral nature. Victims become extremely aggressive and practically rocket fueled. That is to say they move fast, are very strong and can't be stopped short of extreme trauma damage to the head or the practical destruction of the torso (40% of the total flesh mass destroyed). Infection is via fluids, so if they wound you and their saliva or blood comes into contact with your blood, you get infected. Same if you end up swallowing their blood. Depending on how much you were infected with, zombifying can take anywhere from a few minutes to a few seconds.




I'm thinking of a movie here *ponders* what was it again? Mmmhm...

I think I'd lock myself up for the time being and try to survive. But if things turn out like in the movie, I think I'd just sit there and be scared to death.

Zombie Survival Guide (http://www.randomhouse.com/crown/zombiesurvivalguide/)

Do's, dont's, standard procedures and everything in between. This book covers everything from the best types of armament, to disposal of bodies, to how to fortify yourself in case of Zombie attack. It even has 'real accounts of people surviving Zombie' outbreaks'.

That and its just plain funny.

I would treat it as my bible in case of a zombie invasion.

Hand to hand combat with them, even with implements like chainsaws, is suicidal.

yeah, but we would have barricades and protective clothing. after all they were humans, if they don't use weapons they can't do that much against someone who's prepared.

I also have roughly a year's worth of food I'm sitting on...

Considering that shopping centers are the most likely high density spot where the zombie outbreak begins....

Remember, these aren't slow moving target practice boards. They're fast moving and vicious. Hand to hand combat with them, even with implements like chainsaws, is suicidal.

Ok, so I stay at the Army base or go with the soliders to take over an old castle/estate. Come on you've all seen 24 days later haven't you? ;)

Now, let's say you've just woken up, drunk your coffee, and you caught this news flash. What do you do? Also, what do you imagine national leaders of various countries would do?

EDIT: If left alone, they don't decay and die out quickly. So no outlasting the zombie plague.

I close the door of my apartment, then turn on the TV and tune it on any early-morning political debate of the italian state television. This is going to bore them zombies out of their skulls, hence total head annihilation and final death to the poor undead ones.

YAY!

Kill a zombie and eat his brains in hopes of becoming some kind of super zombie.

I'm thinking of a movie here *ponders* what was it again? Mmmhm...

I think I'd lock myself up for the time being and try to survive. But if things turn out like in the movie, I think I'd just sit there and be scared to death.

28 Days Later

I also have roughly a year's worth of food I'm sitting on...

How much beer have you got?

yeah, but we would have barricades and protective clothing. after all they were humans, if they don't use weapons they can't do that much against someone who's prepared.

If we take stock zombie strength, they'd be strong enough to pull an arm off you I think.

Besides, half the thread topic is about what national leaders would do. Not many people talked on that.

I also have roughly a year's worth of food I'm sitting on...

you're going to eat your own balls? :(

How much beer have you got?

Not enough. You never have enough beer stockpiled.

28 Days Later

Oh yeah!!! That's the one!


I knew that, of course *shifty eyes*

yeah, but we would have barricades and protective clothing. after all they were humans, if they don't use weapons they can't do that much against someone who's prepared.

1.Good luck barricading a shopping center with hundreds, if not thousands, of zombies in it. Gotta get em out.

2.Good luck going toe to toe with several hundred zombies. You'd be overwhelmed in seconds.

yeah, but we would have barricades and protective clothing. after all they were humans, if they don't use weapons they can't do that much against someone who's prepared.

1.Good luck barricading a shopping center with hundreds, if not thousands, of zombies in it. Gotta get em out.

2.Good luck going toe to toe with several hundred zombies. You'd be overwhelmed in seconds.

If we take stock zombie strength, they'd be strong enough to pull an arm off you I think.


oh that sucks, and how intelligent are they?


Besides, half the thread topic is about what national leaders would do. Not many people talked on that.

meh, they'll probably send in the army. and is it global? or only in the closest city?

If we take stock zombie strength, they'd be strong enough to pull an arm off you I think.

Besides, half the thread topic is about what national leaders would do. Not many people talked on that.

I think this would be one of the cases where the government takes its scaredy ass and jumps on a private plane to Honolulu.

In any case, I have no idea what they could be doing, except maybe tell people to stay calm and watch their country turn zombie.

Oh yeah!!! That's the one!


I knew that, of course *shifty eyes*

and now 28 Weeks later

1.Good luck barricading a shopping center with hundreds, if not thousands, of zombies in it. Gotta get em out.

2.Good luck going toe to toe with several hundred zombies. You'd be overwhelmed in seconds.

1 they originate in the city, there are enought humans there to keep them busy for a while.

2 that's what the barricade is for, you only have to fight the ones wich are smart enough to get in, and there will be enough easy targets nearby.

and now 28 Weeks later
It'll probably be crap, but I'm going to see it anyway.

mmmmmm Zombie curry!

oh that sucks, and how intelligent are they?

Stupid at first, but they can learn. So creating basic firing lines and hoping to hold out while the ammo lasts will probably end with some of them circling around or jumping from the roofs down onto you.


meh, they'll probably send in the army. and is it global? or only in the closest city?

Every city with a population of over 50,000. Global pandemic.

I would get the gas out of the small car and store it inside the bigger car. I would get a 20 liters galon of water and hide inside the bigger car. I would get all the food avaiable and hide it inside the bigger car.

Then I would get a lot of clothes and hide it in the bigger car. Then I would get the car and drive to Argentina, then Chile, and hide in that hotel that is inside the Alpes.

I would spend some time there, at least the winter and then I would get out with the survivors and try to figure out what we could do.

1.Good luck barricading a shopping center with hundreds, if not thousands, of zombies in it. Gotta get em out.

No, no, you barricade them in not out that would be stupid.

I think this would be one of the cases where the government takes its scaredy ass and jumps on a private plane to Honolulu.

I think Honolulu has a population exceeding 50,000?

and now 28 Weeks later

Ooh I'm really looking forward to that one, though it'll probably have an even worse paranoia effect on me...

I think more Americans will survive it if it is a global endemic due to the percentage of privately owned weapons. Could be wrong though.

I think Honolulu has a population exceeding 50,000?

Yes well, governments have never been really smart :p

I would arm myself, with weapons that were easy to find and hence easy to get ammunition for such as a .22 Caliber Rifle of a 30-6. I would get a melee weapon most likely being a crowbar, its easy to use, deadly, and silent plus it can be used to gain access to areas with locked doors and such.
Since I live in a rural area 80 some odd miles fromt he nearest cities I would have time to prepare for the eventual zombie invasion coming my way if at all. I would not trust too much to the authorities, after all... they can't even agree on what kind of toilet paper to wipe thier asses with and throw money at problems in hope that they go away... and nothing gets done. You can't throw money at zombies.

1 they originate in the city, there are enought humans there to keep them busy for a while.

2 that's what the barricade is for, you only have to fight the ones wich are smart enough to get in, and there will be enough easy targets nearby.

Simple math: after 30 minutes, 200 zombies from 4. That's 50 zombies for every one in only a half an hour. Once the hour is over, that'd turn into 10,000 zombies, give or take a thousand or so for circumstance. You won't have time to barricade, they'd overrun your barricade in seconds, as by that time it would be poorly constructed. Thus, you would be dead before you get a barricade up. The best option is just to high tale it to middle of nowhere and wait it out.

I think more Americans will survive it if it is a global endemic due to the percentage of privately owned weapons. Could be wrong though.

I dont think a global endemic would happen. People get infected so fast that every single nation on earth would deny the arrival of people from the infected country.

That is what hapened in 28 days later: England was infected and all other countries imposed a quarantine on it.

No, no, you barricade them in not out that would be stupid.

Ah, in that case, just pile up your vehicles in front of the doors, and blow the bastards up.

Ooh I'm really looking forward to that one, though it'll probably have an even worse paranoia effect on me...

i don't know i'm still out on that one

I think more Americans will survive it if it is a global endemic due to the percentage of privately owned weapons. Could be wrong though.

Maybe, maybe not. Half of it depends on the density of the population. Tightly packed areas will have faster infection rates than more loosely packed areas.

Yes well, governments have never been really smart :p
Touché. :p

I dont think a global endemic would happen. People get infected so fast that every single nation on earth would deny the arrival of people from the infected country.

That is what hapened in 28 days later: England was infected and all other countries imposed a quarantine on it.
Still not impossible to get out. I mean, thousands of illegal immigrants get into the country every year, I'm sure at least one infected person could get out.

I dont think a global endemic would happen. People get infected so fast that every single nation on earth would deny the arrival of people from the infected country.

That is what hapened in 28 days later: England was infected and all other countries imposed a quarantine on it.
but its back

The best option is just to high tale it to middle of nowhere and wait it out.

i live in Belgium, wich is in the middle of Europe. i can't get to 'the middle of nowhere' without using a ship or coming close to a major city. there is a harbor not to far away, but i don't think i would be the only one going there, and i don't think there would be many ships there waiting for me.
i think the scenario, as described, is way to hard to survive, only a few people in the desert would survive.

i live in Belgium, wich is in the middle of Europe. i can't get to 'the middle of nowhere' without using a ship or coming close to a major city. there is a harbor not to far away, but i don't think i would be the only one going there, and i don't think there would be many ships there waiting for me.
i think the scenario, as described, is way to hard to survive, only a few people in the desert would survive.

Ah. Sucks to be you?

Me, I live in Rural Minnesota. Low population density+Everyone and their mother owning a practical arsenal means I'm good to go. You? No so much. :D

Given the the idiot they elected in the City next door, I think I'm already living near a city full of stupid zombies. They seem fine fiddling while he destroys the city, so I don't think they're that agressive.

Can the zombies help each other climb? I'm screwed if they can.

This description of the zombies sounds like the remake of Dawn of the Dead so I'll visualize that when planning my solution:

At the moment I don't own any usable firearms (Oh how I miss my collection) so Priority 1 would be to fortify my home. That would entail pulling the bedroom doors off their hinges and nailing them up over the windows ala Night of the Living Dead. (Yes, I have exactly enough closet and bedroom/bathroom doors to accomplish this.) Next, I'd try to learn what sort of stimuli the zombies react to. For example, if I have lights on would they react and try to get into the house, or would I hiave to keep it dark at night? This information could hopefully be gathered by watching news broadcasts. In the meantime, I'd assume the worst and have a blackout policy at night.

I would try to communicate with my neighbors, to determine whether they were still alive. Since we live in a townhouse if the neighbor attached to the side were still alive it would be useful to knock down the wall between us (The wall separating our units in the attic is only drywall) and fortify his unit as well. Hopefully, he has at least one gun.

A certain amount of outlasting the zombies IS possible, if they decompose. Eventually the tissues would break down enough to immobilize them. If we could last that long on our supplies, we would do so. At any rate, the longer we last, the easier it would be to evade the zombies because of gradual tissue breakdown. (If they don't decompose, things get a LOT more complex)

If supplies were scarce or for whatever reason we simply had to go out, I'd do so when the coast appears clear, with pre-determined avenues of escape if I'm spotted. I'd grab the SUV and use it to try and reach a source of food OTHER than a supermarket... A place like that would be a zombie magnet precisely because people would be going there for supplies. Instead, I'd break into unoccupied homes and raid them for canned and dry goods. This could be accomplished quickly even without the SUV if there were available houses in the immediate vicinity of my home. While I was at it, I'd try to find firearms and ammo. 1 out of ever 3 Americans has firearms, so my odds are reasonable of being able to find something useful.

And aside from all that... Pray. a lot.

So go kill some zombies.

http://www.mofunzone.com/online_games/the_last_stand.shtml#

I just beat that game. Not very hard, but entertaining.

Well I have been wanting to make a replica of that handcrank 1860's retro charm. Realistically I'd go to the nearest gun shop then head home and lock myself in my basement, shooting anything that tried to get in. And I'd be using shotguns because they're just better at killing zombies. I've covered wars you know. Would these zombies be fast and screamy and howl like they do in a certain video game?

I know what I'd have to do with regular, non-aggressive zombies, but now I'm going to need to rethink that.

Any sort of weapon that does not DROP the zombie in one blow is out. Getting a headshot with a firearm with a target moving that quickly is likely very difficult.

FIRST: Drive to a gunshop. Thankfully, a pawn and gun is only a short drive from where I live. I'll need a shotgun to deal with this brand of freak. Pistols and submachine guns are out due to the relatively low impact of their rounds. If there is a reasonable rifle there I may grab it as well.

SECOND: Try to find an out of the way market to stock up on as much food as possible. If I find any infected, I move on. Besides, where I'm going I won't need very much food...

THIRD: PRISON!!! Prisons, especially of the high-walled, concrete variety, are very sturdy and excellent fortresses. And I happen to live 30 minutes away from one. Hopefully the prisoners and the guards have called some sort of truce and have pooled their skills, if not, the prisoners have been released or the facility abandoned outright. The facility is fully stocked with food, medicine, weapons, and, in some cases, entertainment facilities.

Just grab a pint, and wait for this whole thing to blow over...

Hmm, i think the question of what the authorities would do depends entirely on the authorities NOT being zombies. Go watch the news, its already too late.....

Any sort of weapon that does not DROP the zombie in one blow is out. Getting a headshot with a firearm with a target moving that quickly is likely very difficult.

FIRST: Drive to a gunshop. Thankfully, a pawn and gun is only a short drive from where I live. I'll need a shotgun to deal with this brand of freak. Pistols and submachine guns are out due to the relatively low impact of their rounds. If there is a reasonable rifle there I may grab it as well.

Here's an example of what people (non-infantry Army) with a minor amount of weapons training do with their weapons:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab60662ad6&p=1

If you have little or no experience with shooting, running to a gun shop is going to be an exercise in futility.

Even with a shotgun, hitting the head is not really an option if you have no skill.

First, I'd pack myself a backpack full of necessary wilderness survival items including a map, compass, water bottle, flashlight, mirror, sleeping bag, sunglasses, first-aid kit, Swiss army knife, a small radio w/earphones.

I'd wear some Army surplus Camo outfit with a poncho, and good hill walkin' boots.

First, I'd walk (not drive. The roads will no doubt we blocked with cars) a couple of miles toward the Bo'ness and Kinneil Railway, which I'm a member of, and get myself a crowbar for a weapon (I'm in Scotland, so I can't get a gun as easily as others here) as well as stock up on rations, any other necessary supplies, and muster as many comrades as I can.

Then we set off for Linlithgow, specifically Blackness Castle. We then barricade ourselves in, as well as acquire an escape boat than we'll moor off the jetty at the back of the castle. Attempt to contact outside world with radio equipment.

Worst case scenario: If the castle is penetrated, we set sail on the boat, and try to reach a part of the coast, island or oil rig that is still not infested, which will undoubtedly be unlikely.

*SNIP*

Good idea. Barricading the home. I thought about that strategy at dinner before posting here, and I figured it would be futile to barricade myself in my house. Limited supplies, ease of outside access, amongst other things. It's a new house and a few of our amenities don't work properly. Tap water suddenly turns off, the back door sometimes refuses to lock, and is made entirely of glass. The gate is unsecured. We don't have any kind of wood supplies to board up any windows.

If we got surrounded, there'd be no way for us to replenish our already limited supplies.
It would be suicide.

That's why I prefer my castle strategy better.

Since NSG is getting real tedious with all its wrangling and shouting, I decided to bring back one of the old time fun threads. Zombies.

Let's say that it's mid-2007, and all of a sudden there's an outbreak of zombie plague. Now these aren't the usual mindless masses of shambling undead. Instead, it's got a more feral nature. Victims become extremely aggressive and practically rocket fueled. That is to say they move fast, are very strong and can't be stopped short of extreme trauma damage to the head or the practical destruction of the torso (40% of the total flesh mass destroyed). Infection is via fluids, so if they wound you and their saliva or blood comes into contact with your blood, you get infected. Same if you end up swallowing their blood. Depending on how much you were infected with, zombifying can take anywhere from a few minutes to a few seconds.

Now lets say that every city with a population of over 50,000 has one set of 4 zombies from a central point starting their rampage. Probably in a densely populated area. By the time authorities respond in some force, there's some 100 to 200 odd zombies out running around putting the bite on people.

It's been roughly half an hour since the outbreak has begun. News is sketchy, but most major networks have just begun to cover what they think is a riot. Video feed within the first 30 seconds in one city however, dispels that idea. Authorities try to clamp down on the information, but it's too late. Panic starts spreading among cities where riots are ongoing and the situation deteriorates rapidly.

Now, let's say you've just woken up, drunk your coffee, and you caught this news flash. What do you do? Also, what do you imagine national leaders of various countries would do?

EDIT: If left alone, they don't decay and die out quickly. So no outlasting the zombie plague.

I'd dash out, get a shotgun, dash back in, and find the biggest knife in the house. Bush...he'd tough-talk the zombies.

Zombie Survival Guide (http://www.randomhouse.com/crown/zombiesurvivalguide/)

Do's, dont's, standard procedures and everything in between. This book covers everything from the best types of armament, to disposal of bodies, to how to fortify yourself in case of Zombie attack. It even has 'real accounts of people surviving Zombie' outbreaks'.
I would treat it as my bible in case of a zombie invasion.

I think that covers the shambling type of zombie. We're talking the ones that move as fast, if not faster, than humans.

As for me, I'll just find a copy of a certain Book, before the internet cuts out. The Zombies can suck on Molotovs.
As for if I was a world leader?

Armor, planes, and helicopters to clear the streets, nothing else, no exposed soldiers at all. So unless zombies learn to use RPGs and Stingers, the zombies can be permantly contained. Then use artillery to blast any zombie occuiped building.

With some slight adaptation to the rules and tactics I think it should be just fine.

Here's an example of what people (non-infantry Army) with a minor amount of weapons training do with their weapons:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab60662ad6&p=1

If you have little or no experience with shooting, running to a gun shop is going to be an exercise in futility.

Even with a shotgun, hitting the head is not really an option if you have no skill.

Forgive the ignorant, but I've heard that the M16 can be kind of finicky in the sand. And pehaps these dudes are better versed with the AK...I could be wrong though.

I won't lie to you and say I've been trained in any formal capasity, but I do know how to use a shotgun, and I have studied weapon history and schematics (more of a scholar than a shooter). With these freaks, even getting THAT close may be a bad idea.

I dont think a global endemic would happen. People get infected so fast that every single nation on earth would deny the arrival of people from the infected country.

That is what hapened in 28 days later: England was infected and all other countries imposed a quarantine on it.

Not possible. Every city with a population over 50,000. That means just about every major nation.

Can the zombies help each other climb? I'm screwed if they can.

Considering that they're capabilities would be similar to these, climbing is hardly an issue unless you live on top of a sheer concrete block.

http://www.hlfallout.net/images/content/enemies/full/fastzombie_full.jpg

A certain amount of outlasting the zombies IS possible, if they decompose. Eventually the tissues would break down enough to immobilize them. If we could last that long on our supplies, we would do so. At any rate, the longer we last, the easier it would be to evade the zombies because of gradual tissue breakdown. (If they don't decompose, things get a LOT more complex)

Most of the excess tissue (fat, skin, etc, etc) will decompose normally, but stuff like muscles and ligaments would excrete a preservative substance that keeps them from decomposing. Eventually it will rot away entirely, but we're talking about years.

As for stimuli, standard 5 senses, but a lot sharper.

A zombie outbreak of any kind will spell the end of the United States as a nation. Such an epidemic would be a Godsend for Dear Leader Dubya, who would find it the perfect excuse to distract people from the quagmire in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as declare a national state of emergency where he can flagrantly exercise the imperial presidency that he always dreamed of having.

Don't be surprised if Al'Qaeda or some other Enemy of the Day is blamed for the outbreak, with sexed up documents linking the plague manufacture to Iran as well as Bin Ladin.

The end result would look a whole lot like Land of the Dead.

Since NSG is getting real tedious with all its wrangling and shouting, I decided to bring back one of the old time fun threads. Zombies.

Let's say that it's mid-2007, and all of a sudden there's an outbreak of zombie plague. Now these aren't the usual mindless masses of shambling undead. Instead, it's got a more feral nature. Victims become extremely aggressive and practically rocket fueled. That is to say they move fast, are very strong and can't be stopped short of extreme trauma damage to the head or the practical destruction of the torso (40% of the total flesh mass destroyed). Infection is via fluids, so if they wound you and their saliva or blood comes into contact with your blood, you get infected. Same if you end up swallowing their blood. Depending on how much you were infected with, zombifying can take anywhere from a few minutes to a few seconds.

Now lets say that every city with a population of over 50,000 has one set of 4 zombies from a central point starting their rampage. Probably in a densely populated area. By the time authorities respond in some force, there's some 100 to 200 odd zombies out running around putting the bite on people.

It's been roughly half an hour since the outbreak has begun. News is sketchy, but most major networks have just begun to cover what they think is a riot. Video feed within the first 30 seconds in one city however, dispels that idea. Authorities try to clamp down on the information, but it's too late. Panic starts spreading among cities where riots are ongoing and the situation deteriorates rapidly.

Now, let's say you've just woken up, drunk your coffee, and you caught this news flash. What do you do? Also, what do you imagine national leaders of various countries would do?

EDIT: If left alone, they don't decay and die out quickly. So no outlasting the zombie plague.

Go out, buy a gun, load it, and keep it with me. Then, stay in my house repeatedly watching the news and looking out the window. If I believe the threat is too great to be contained, shoot myself in the head so I don't have to suffer.

Armor, planes, and helicopters to clear the streets, nothing else, no exposed soldiers at all. So unless zombies learn to use RPGs and Stingers, the zombies can be permantly contained. Then use artillery to blast any zombie occuiped building.

Considering the initial outbreak level, those tanks and planes had better respond in minutes. Otherwise, you'll be seeing zombified riot cops, heck, maybe even soldiers if the national guard gets called in.

As for national leaders, all it would take is for one infected person with trace amounts in the bunker/transport that their in to make things interesting. It all depends on how quickly they move and how quickly they can isolate themselves from possible infection. Remember, how the plague is transmitted won't be known with a certainty just yet. Most people would assume it's when they put the bite on you. It doesn't have to be.

Heck, a zombie could fall into the local water supply and anyone drinking from it would be infected.

It really depends on what type of zombies, fast, slow, fat, stupid, smart, crawling, the list stumbles (pun intended) on.

Got to love the funny movies though.

Shake their hand. I want to see if zombies know how to shake hands.

Go grab a copy of the Necronimicon.

You KNOW you want to see an army of zombies fight an army of shoggoths. You can't deny it.

I;d take a different approach: Get a couple of other people; stock up on bait, fishing poles, food, fuel, ammo, etc.; and then hop on a boat and ride for either a small island with fish OR somewhere with no people near a good fishing area. Then, fish for food and hopefully the problem will solve itself.

Barring that, gathering a large group, looting the nearest army base and blasting the zombies with all of our country's finest military weapons (Imagine fighting them in a tank. No need for gunner, just seal the hatch and DRIVE!)

First off, if my family members were alive, we would grab the car keys, whatever supplies we could carry, our guns, etc, then jump in the vehicles and go far, far away, possibly to a remote army base, or go to the coast and commandeer a boat, and hide away on an island.

If I was the only family member alive, I would, depending if they reanimated or not, either a)grab the keys to the van and go to the grandparents house.
or b) if they had reanimated, go out the bedroom window and walk to the woods outside of town. From there, I'd make my way toward my grandparent's house in Pennsylvania.

Either way, I'd then proceed directly into the woods and build myself a small hut next to the river that flows through their property. I'd raid the local towns for food and supplies, and look for survivors, and wait the zombies out.

It really depends on what type of zombies, fast, slow, fat, stupid, smart, crawling, the list stumbles (pun intended) on.


Very fast, very agile, grizzly bear level strong, initially stupid, but capable of learning.

i think we need to kill the zombies then use their body parts for medical patients.

i think we need to kill the zombies then use their body parts for medical patients.
wouldn't the blood from said body parts infect the patients?

Now, let's say you've just woken up, drunk your coffee, and you caught this news flash. What do you do?

I think it's safe to say that, if I'd just woken up, then despite the coffee the zombies would probably consider me as one of their own

I think it's safe to say that, if I'd just woken up, then despite the coffee the zombies would probably consider me as one of their own

So you wake up hyperactive and in a blind rage?

So you wake up hyperactive and in a blind rage?

Given the zombies described in the OP, I think I'm still pretty safe

EDIT: I saw 'Say', instead of 'So' in your post and thus misread. No, I do not wake up in a hyperactive and blind rage but I do look like a zombie...

EDIT 2:...until the sun hits me, at which point I transform into a normal human being - so I guess my plan would be too stay indoors

I live on an army base... I'd be the one bailing you all out...

Grab my shotgun, make for the nearest army depo and then make war on the zombies in the local shopping centre. :sniper:

Someone Plays deadrising? I would grab my various assorted Fire arms and dare the zombie hordes to set foot on my land..I too am In the Military..well in the process of becoming a soldier..but yea

Someone Plays deadrising? I would grab my various assorted Fire arms and dare the zombie hordes to set foot on my land..I too am In the Military..well in the process of becoming a soldier..but yea

You don't have 360 degree vision. These zombies are fast, and won't shy away from using the rooftops or blindsiding you if the front approach doesn't work.

Thus why I stay in my basement which only has one point of entry unless the zombies can burrow through ground and concrete...or hide out in an APC and just run them over..or shoot them with a heavy MG..

Since NSG is getting real tedious with all its wrangling and shouting, I decided to bring back one of the old time fun threads. Zombies.

Let's say that it's mid-2007, and all of a sudden there's an outbreak of zombie plague. Now these aren't the usual mindless masses of shambling undead. Instead, it's got a more feral nature. Victims become extremely aggressive and practically rocket fueled. That is to say they move fast, are very strong and can't be stopped short of extreme trauma damage to the head or the practical destruction of the torso (40% of the total flesh mass destroyed). Infection is via fluids, so if they wound you and their saliva or blood comes into contact with your blood, you get infected. Same if you end up swallowing their blood. Depending on how much you were infected with, zombifying can take anywhere from a few minutes to a few seconds.

Now lets say that every city with a population of over 50,000 has one set of 4 zombies from a central point starting their rampage. Probably in a densely populated area. By the time authorities respond in some force, there's some 100 to 200 odd zombies out running around putting the bite on people.

It's been roughly half an hour since the outbreak has begun. News is sketchy, but most major networks have just begun to cover what they think is a riot. Video feed within the first 30 seconds in one city however, dispels that idea. Authorities try to clamp down on the information, but it's too late. Panic starts spreading among cities where riots are ongoing and the situation deteriorates rapidly.

Now, let's say you've just woken up, drunk your coffee, and you caught this news flash. What do you do? Also, what do you imagine national leaders of various countries would do?

EDIT: If left alone, they don't decay and die out quickly. So no outlasting the zombie plague.

Gather all my friends, barricade ourselves in with weaponry and hold them off like in those zombie shooting games.

Thus why I stay in my basement which only has one point of entry unless the zombies can burrow through ground and concrete...or hide out in an APC and just run them over..or shoot them with a heavy MG..

Which means you'll last until the ammo runs out.

i calmly take out my gun and blow my brains out. unless i'm in the boonies then i try to survive as best i can but i always save that last bullet in case. oh and before i take my own life i sing "always look on the bright side of life" from life of brian.

I'd probably be a zombie so I really wouldn't post how I'd make it.

Set up traps around my house, put signs telling about them so people aren't caught (zombies are mindless), pray for civilization to come back and wait it out with some molotovs. Also get some loved ones to safety here.

You watched "28 days" lately, I'll assume?

Set up traps around my house, put signs telling about them so people aren't caught (zombies are mindless)

This particular breed isn't. Sure they're pretty brainless at the start, but they can learn and adapt.


You watched "28 days" lately, I'll assume?

Never seen it.

Knowing that my school has a dock, and that my dorm is right near it, I'd hightail it there, grab a boat and sail to the nearest military base, which is right down the river my school is on.

When I see a thread like this, I always laugh at the people who think the best way to deal with zombies is using a gun. They're already DEAD, so a bullet between the eyes is no better than a bullet between the toes. Therefore, I'd have the sense to pick up a sword and start dismembering 'em. Dead or not, it's hard to run when you look like the Black Knight!

When I see a thread like this, I always laugh at the people who think the best way to deal with zombies is using a gun. They're already DEAD, so a bullet between the eyes is no better than a bullet between the toes.

I don't think you read the op fully did you? Technically, they're not dead. Splashing the brain pan will kill them.


Therefore, I'd have the sense to pick up a sword and start dismembering 'em. Dead or not, it's hard to run when you look like the Black Knight!

I think I specified that they were very, very strong. Not to mention very fast. You might get one. The next would probably rip sword and the hand holding it out of its sockets.

Which means you'll last until the ammo runs out.

Not to mention that there is no way to escape. A basement is the worst possible place to hole yourself up. Windows, if at all, tend to be small and difficult to get out of, usually only one entry/exit. You're not a sitting duck, you're a dead duck. I'd much rather prefer a two story house with two doors, easily defendable, and blocadeable, while still allowing a great deal of running room. Also, preferably in a rural area. You could last the entire outbreak without seeing a single zed.

Not to mention that there is no way to escape. A basement is the worst possible place to hole yourself up. Windows, if at all, tend to be small and difficult to get out of, usually only one entry/exit. You're not a sitting duck, you're a dead duck. I'd much rather prefer a two story house with two doors, easily defendable, and blocadeable, while still allowing a great deal of running room. Also, preferably in a rural area. You could last the entire outbreak without seeing a single zed.

Hmmm, would be interesting to see if that still holds if the plague can be carried across species.

I did, and disagree with the OP's claims.

Youi also assume that I'm abvout to charge a pack of zombies and get sourroudned -- that's simply not the case.

I did, and disagree with the OP's claims.

So you're only working with half the settings in the scenario?


Youi also assume that I'm abvout to charge a pack of zombies and get sourroudned -- that's simply not the case.

No, it doesn't have to be. Even if you're holding a door with only one way in, they'd still be as fast, if not faster than your average human, not to mention very strong. You'd have to be a master at swordplay to have chance.

Since NSG is getting real tedious with all its wrangling and shouting, I decided to bring back one of the old time fun threads. Zombies.[snip]
Now, let's say you've just woken up, drunk your coffee, and you caught this news flash. What do you do? Also, what do you imagine national leaders of various countries would do?


As with most zombie scenarios, I sit down and ponder how it is that the zombies never attack each other, even after running out of the carrion of uninfected dead, and how they always intuitively know whether you're a zombie or not.

So I make them disappear in a puff of logic. :p

I would cross my fingers and hope Bush acted better as a zombie.

[QUOTE=Non Aligned States;12602247]Infection is via fluids, so if they wound you and their saliva or blood comes into contact with your blood, you get infected. Same if you end up swallowing their blood. Depending on how much you were infected with, zombifying can take anywhere from a few minutes to a few seconds.
/QUOTE]

So do you get it from oral sex?

As with most zombie scenarios, I sit down and ponder how it is that the zombies never attack each other, even after running out of the carrion of uninfected dead, and how they always intuitively know whether you're a zombie or not.

So I make them disappear in a puff of logic. :p

Logic doesn't belong on NS. Especially fun threads. Boo!

Logic doesn't belong on NS. Especially fun threads. Boo!

Sorry, didn't mean to zombie-shuffle over the thread. :) As much as I liked the movie 28 Days Later and Quake II, I've always thought zombies were a bit silly (though not quite as silly as vampires).

My noble people would accept the zombies as a part of their way of life and learn to like it, or else.

As with most zombie scenarios, I sit down and ponder how it is that the zombies never attack each other, even after running out of the carrion of uninfected dead, and how they always intuitively know whether you're a zombie or not.

So I make them disappear in a puff of logic. :p

And then you try to prove black is white and get killed at the next zombie zebra crossing.

Sorry, didn't mean to zombie-shuffle over the thread. :) As much as I liked the movie 28 Days Later and Quake II, I've always thought zombies were a bit silly (though not quite as silly as vampires).

Well maybe they've got intelligence enough to figure out who's a zombie and who isn't. Maybe their secretions (which can't be duplicated), makes them smell bad.

Or maybe being infected makes an invisible marker appear on you that only zombies can see.

And while you're busy with your logic, a zombie comes up and eats your brain. you lose. :P

It's quite simple

You just barricade yourself in for a week or so, and then the zombies will be dying.

Why? Dehydration. If they're vomiting blood all the time, then that would accelerate the process.

And while you're busy with your logic, a zombie comes up and eats your brain. you lose. :P
:eek:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/buro9/298994672/in/set-72157594379214637/

Ah. Sucks to be you?

Me, I live in Rural Minnesota. Low population density+Everyone and their mother owning a practical arsenal means I'm good to go. You? No so much. :D

oh, it's ok to live here. A zombie attack would probably be quite annoying, and it would lead to my death, but the rest of the time is ok.

Easy thing to do is just set yourself on fire, people cant grab you if your on fire....

It's quite simple

You just barricade yourself in for a week or so, and then the zombies will be dying.

Why? Dehydration. If they're vomiting blood all the time, then that would accelerate the process.

They're not vomiting blood. Their blood is infected. Same with all their bodily fluids.

They're not vomiting blood. Their blood is infected. Same with all their bodily fluids.

I'm sure in 28 Days Later they vomited blood...but meh nevermind, I spent over half of that film behind the sofa anyway :p

Regardless, they will still not be taking in water. A person's body, during an average day in a temperate climate such as the United Kingdom, loses approximately 2.5 liters of water (thankyou wiki). Now, if the temperature is hotter, or these zombies are running around like psychos, then that will increase. Zombies WILL get dehydrated, they WILL die

I think that covers the shambling type of zombie. We're talking the ones that move as fast, if not faster, than humans.

As for me, I'll just find a copy of a certain Book, before the internet cuts out. The Zombies can suck on Molotovs.
As for if I was a world leader?

Armor, planes, and helicopters to clear the streets, nothing else, no exposed soldiers at all. So unless zombies learn to use RPGs and Stingers, the zombies can be permantly contained. Then use artillery to blast any zombie occuiped building.
The "recipies" in said book are more likely to kill you than your intended target.
Easy thing to do is just set yourself on fire, people cant grab you if your on fire....
This is genius.

So when will the Zombie rights group be protesting at government buildings?

"Zombies are people too!"
"Give zombies the vote!

Tag

EDIT: If left alone, they don't decay and die out quickly. So no outlasting the zombie plague.

Well, since I don't drink coffee, I'd probably just go back to sleep. See, that's the advantage of living where I do: I'm far away from any major cities and the odds of any zombies ending up in my location are slim to none.

Well, since I don't drink coffee, I'd probably just go back to sleep. See, that's the advantage of living where I do: I'm far away from any major cities and the odds of any zombies ending up in my location are slim to none.

They'll be coming for you soon, don't you worry.


Also, McKay kissing Carson=hilarious.

Though McKay on that enzyme is far funnier than McKay with a woman trapped in his head.

They'll be coming for you soon, don't you worry.

I doubt it. I agree with the dehydration guy...these zombies are really just extremely agressive, super-powerful humans. As such, they need water. Without it, they die. I'll never see a single zed.

Sssh! We're not using the zed word!


Also, McKay kissing Carson=hilarious.

Though McKay on that enzyme is far funnier than McKay with a woman trapped in his head.

How the crap did we suddenly end up on Atlantis trivia? That was an odd enough change of subject to give me whiplash.

I doubt it. I agree with the dehydration guy...these zombies are really just extremely agressive, super-powerful humans. As such, they need water. Without it, they die. I'll never see a single zed.

Sssh! We're not using the zed word!
We'll call them the living impaired.


How the crap did we suddenly end up on Atlantis trivia? That was an odd enough change of subject to give me whiplash.

Your sig.

Here's an example of what people (non-infantry Army) with a minor amount of weapons training do with their weapons:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab60662ad6&p=1

Ugh, I'll bet those are 88M's or someone equally as useless.

Anyway, it depends on when exactly. If it's before mid June I'll be here in France and rather screwed. If it's after mid June I'll be back in small town Michigan with much better chances. I'd probably go down to the local Guard armory and offer my services (I was a 19D 3 years ago and possibly will be again in June/July). There are no cities of sufficient size for at least an hour in any direction, so I wouldn't be in any immediate danger. I have a civilian type AK-47 (WASR-10) and about 2,000 rounds so I'd be able to do my part.

Regardless, they will still not be taking in water. A person's body, during an average day in a temperate climate such as the United Kingdom, loses approximately 2.5 liters of water (thankyou wiki). Now, if the temperature is hotter, or these zombies are running around like psychos, then that will increase. Zombies WILL get dehydrated, they WILL die

Fair enough. Although that doesn't square with the fact that they can shed nearly all non skeletal/muscle/ligament parts and still remain fully functional.

That being said, who's the say they won't drink, or if you want to go with nutrients, munch on whatever's handy.

Fair enough. Although that doesn't square with the fact that they can shed nearly all non skeletal/muscle/ligament parts and still remain fully functional.

That being said, who's the say they won't drink, or if you want to go with nutrients, munch on whatever's handy.

Including each other?

Including each other?

That was covered earlier by someone who tried to get the zombies to attack each other by logic. Short answer. No. Infected flesh would be repulsive to them if they tried to eat it.

And no, covering yourself in zombie flesh wouldn't quite work.

That was covered earlier by someone who tried to get the zombies to attack each other by logic. Short answer. No. Infected flesh would be repulsive to them if they tried to eat it.

And no, covering yourself in zombie flesh wouldn't quite work.

Dang. I was hoping to set up some kind of Zombie thunderdome. Two zombies enter, one zombie leaves!

When I see a thread like this, I always laugh at the people who think the best way to deal with zombies is using a gun. They're already DEAD, so a bullet between the eyes is no better than a bullet between the toes.

Nope. Re-read the OP. These zeds ain't dead: they're just infected living human beings.

Dang. I was hoping to set up some kind of Zombie thunderdome. Two zombies enter, one zombie leaves!

Well. Assuming that the pandemic is contained, you could probably set up human bloodsports vs the zombies.

Well. Assuming that the pandemic is contained, you could probably set up human bloodsports vs the zombies.

Excellent. Wrestlmania XXXVVIIXVVIIIXVI, now with added zombies!

Excellent. Wrestlmania XXXVVIIXVVIIIXVI, now with added zombies!

The only problem is that more often than not, both lose.

Excellent. Wrestlmania XXXVVIIXVVIIIXVI, now with added zombies!

Imagine zombie Lashley or zombie Batista. That would be pretty damn scary. On a positive note, zombie Undertaker would have earned his nickname of "The Dead Man".

Now, let's say you've just woken up, drunk your coffee, and you caught this news flash. What do you do? Also, what do you imagine national leaders of various countries would do?

EDIT: If left alone, they don't decay and die out quickly. So no outlasting the zombie plague.

head for the harbor and hijack a boat off of the island.

make sure I have a hibachi, lots of coal, fishing equiptment, water....

Since NSG is getting real tedious with all its wrangling and shouting, I decided to bring back one of the old time fun threads. Zombies.

Let's say that it's mid-2007, and all of a sudden there's an outbreak of zombie plague. Now these aren't the usual mindless masses of shambling undead. Instead, it's got a more feral nature. Victims become extremely aggressive and practically rocket fueled. That is to say they move fast, are very strong and can't be stopped short of extreme trauma damage to the head or the practical destruction of the torso (40% of the total flesh mass destroyed). Infection is via fluids, so if they wound you and their saliva or blood comes into contact with your blood, you get infected. Same if you end up swallowing their blood. Depending on how much you were infected with, zombifying can take anywhere from a few minutes to a few seconds.

Now lets say that every city with a population of over 50,000 has one set of 4 zombies from a central point starting their rampage. Probably in a densely populated area. By the time authorities respond in some force, there's some 100 to 200 odd zombies out running around putting the bite on people.

It's been roughly half an hour since the outbreak has begun. News is sketchy, but most major networks have just begun to cover what they think is a riot. Video feed within the first 30 seconds in one city however, dispels that idea. Authorities try to clamp down on the information, but it's too late. Panic starts spreading among cities where riots are ongoing and the situation deteriorates rapidly.

Now, let's say you've just woken up, drunk your coffee, and you caught this news flash. What do you do? Also, what do you imagine national leaders of various countries would do?

EDIT: If left alone, they don't decay and die out quickly. So no outlasting the zombie plague.

28 Days Later. (almost)

Grab my shotgun, make for the nearest army depo and then make war on the zombies in the local shopping centre. :sniper:

Dawn of the Dead.

head for the harbor and hijack a boat off of the island.

make sure I have a hibachi, lots of coal, fishing equiptment, water....

What's a hibachi?

I'd cruise around in my 280z with my AK47 and all remaining 500 rounds or so giving the zombies a run for their money.

First of course, I'd head to the nearest 7-11 for my half gallon cup of Coke that can be refilled for 39 cents or what not.

That my friends, is living on the edge. :p

i think zombies might be voting in scotland. people are asking if heads should roll. to me, the zombies are the prime candidates. stupid dead fuckers.



OF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!!!!

i think zombies might be voting in scotland. people are asking if heads should roll. to me, the zombies are the prime candidates. stupid dead fuckers.



OF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!!!!

An impressive display of authority. Unfortunately, the zombies remain unimpressed and eat you. :p

The only problem is that more often than not, both lose.

They lose, everybody else wins.

They lose, everybody else wins.

Except the people who bet on either one.

This is my bug-out kit:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/zombieloadout.jpg

I have a lot more in terms of weapons and ammunition if I get to remain in the house.

Bar the doors and windows.

I've got a few weapons and a few rounds and plenty of food & water.

I could last here a while.

This is my bug-out kit:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/zombieloadout.jpg

I have a lot more in terms of weapons and ammunition if I get to remain in the house.


Ok, in case there ever is a zombie outbreak I know at who's house I am bunking the disaster. >_>

I even have a suppressed AR with a 200-rd magazine - just the thing for zombies when I don't want to attract every zombie within 2 miles.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/fun03.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/fun02.jpg

I even have a suppressed AR with a 200-rd magazine - just the thing for zombies when I don't want to attract every zombie within 2 miles.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/fun03.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/fun02.jpg

The small of charnel will attract them though. Besides, you can only fire in one direction. The zombies won't be so obliging to come in only one direction. :p