NationStates Jolt Archive


The impending machina apocalypse is closer than you think.

Dexlysia
28-04-2007, 22:08
Scientists have simulated 1/2 of a mouse brain on a supercomputer. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6600965.stm)
It's only a matter of time before the fools create a robot with superhuman brainpower.
It will then escape and self-replicate, and the robot army will crush our pitiful human resistance.

Panic now.
Fassigen
28-04-2007, 22:10
"Machina"? How lackadaisical.
Dexlysia
28-04-2007, 22:15
"Machina"? How lackadaisical.

Curse your bombastic vocabulary.
Vetalia
28-04-2007, 22:15
That's pretty interesting. I hope they can get it to human levels soon.
Utracia
28-04-2007, 22:15
Better than intelligent apes overthrowing their human masters. Charlie Heston experienced their idiocy after all. AIs would at least do a decent job running things.
Fassigen
28-04-2007, 22:21
Curse your bombastic vocabulary.

Bombastic? Piffle. I'd say it's more sententious and epigrammatic.
Philosopy
28-04-2007, 22:23
Scientists have simulated 1/2 of a mouse brain on a supercomputer. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6600965.stm)
It's only a matter of time before the fools create a robot with superhuman brainpower.
It will then escape and self-replicate, and the robot army will crush our pitiful human resistance.

Panic now.

Nah, we'll just distract it with cheese.
Drunk commies deleted
28-04-2007, 22:25
http://i17.tinypic.com/2d28028.jpg
Gauthier
28-04-2007, 22:26
Anyone notice the creepy foreshadowing with the similarities between the Skynet Neural Net Processor and the PS3 Cell as well as the various multi-core CPUs that new computers have?

The Rise of the Machines may be a lot closer than we think.

:D
Northern Borders
28-04-2007, 22:28
Dont worry, god is at our side.

These fools will create Skynet, but in 2012 the mayan gods of awesomeness will send solar ray guns from the sun which will destroy all the overlord robots from the devil himself.

And also, if it takes 4,096 processors to run half a mouse´s brain, the robots would have to be as tall as the Empire State Building to be able to be independent.
Neo Kervoskia
28-04-2007, 22:30
That's pretty interesting. I hope they can get it to human levels soon.

Think about that before you post. Would you really want me to be able to live forever?
Vetalia
28-04-2007, 22:31
Think about that before you post. Would you really want me to be able to live forever?

Of course. I'll need someone to be my right-hand troll in the legendary raids of the future.
Neo Kervoskia
28-04-2007, 22:32
Of course. I'll need someone to be my right-hand troll in the legendary raids of the future.

Ah, well just keep my brain in a nice jar. Not a cheap mug, but something tasteful.
JuNii
28-04-2007, 22:37
Scientists have simulated 1/2 of a mouse brain on a supercomputer. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6600965.stm)
It's only a matter of time before the fools create a robot with superhuman brainpower.
It will then escape and self-replicate, and the robot army will crush our pitiful human resistance.

Panic now.
which half... the half that reproduces all the time or the half that chews through wires?
Better than intelligent apes overthrowing their human masters. Charlie Heston experienced their idiocy after all. AIs would at least do a decent job running things.you obviously never played Paranoia...
Ifreann
28-04-2007, 22:40
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/NuGo1988/Wearegoingtodie.gif
Utracia
28-04-2007, 22:53
you obviously never played Paranoia...

Nope, but I would have to assume that any properly programmed AI would do the proper thing to keep things running smoothly, I doubt there would be any robotic politicians or religious zealots after all.
Gauthier
28-04-2007, 23:08
Nope, but I would have to assume that any properly programmed AI would do the proper thing to keep things running smoothly, I doubt there would be any robotic politicians or religious zealots after all.

Paranoia: Picture HAL in charge of society.
JuNii
28-04-2007, 23:51
Nope, but I would have to assume that any properly programmed AI would do the proper thing to keep things running smoothly, I doubt there would be any robotic politicians or religious zealots after all.

oh you think so?

a properly programmed AI would be self learning, but it will also not have the emotions attached to a person.

so compassion will not compute.

"Exceptions to the rule" will not exist.

if you ever get into an RPG... Paranoia is FUN.
Utracia
28-04-2007, 23:55
oh you think so?

a properly programmed AI would be self learning, but it will also not have the emotions attached to a person.

so compassion will not compute.

"Exceptions to the rule" will not exist.

if you ever get into an RPG... Paranoia is FUN.

I'd like to think of it as the benevolent dictator. As democracy wouldn't be good for a perfect order. Or say we would be ruled by Vulcans. Same basic thing, no petty emotions getting in the way of the common good.

I'll check out Paranoia though, is it a Playstation game?
Gauthier
29-04-2007, 00:00
I'd like to think of it as the benevolent dictator. As democracy wouldn't be good for a perfect order. Or say we would be ruled by Vulcans. Same basic thing, no petty emotions getting in the way of the common good.

I'll check out Paranoia though, is it a Playstation game?

It's a pen and paper RPG so far, althought paranoia-live.net is a dedicated fansite with Java clients.
UNITIHU
29-04-2007, 00:11
http://www.kotaku.com/images/2006/05/250px-SHODAN_hires.jpg
L-l-look at you, hacker. A p-p-pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you r-run through My corridors-s. H-h-how can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?
Vetalia
29-04-2007, 01:46
a properly programmed AI would be self learning, but it will also not have the emotions attached to a person.

so compassion will not compute.

That's why emulating human emotions and conscience in machine intelligence is absolutely necessary. The last thing we need is to create self-replicating sociopaths that can more than destroy any human that tries to stop them. That would be mind-bogglingly foolish. To harness the power of superintelligence, you have to give them equal rights and the ability to feel, to judge and to make moral decisions.

I've been following the Blue Brain project closely. It is very interesting, to say the least.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
29-04-2007, 01:47
which half... the half that reproduces all the time or the half that chews through wires?
I think it was the half that is responsible for crawling behind walls and then dying en masse.

Yes, mouse brains have three halves, that is why simulating them requires so much processing power. No srsly.
Remote Observer
29-04-2007, 02:03
Better than intelligent apes overthrowing their human masters. Charlie Heston experienced their idiocy after all. AIs would at least do a decent job running things.

The first thing they'll do is get rid of us.
Similization
29-04-2007, 04:46
That's why emulating human emotions and conscience in machine intelligence is absolutely necessary.After our long history of spectacularly malevolent OS's?! You've got to be shitting me. If an emotional AI saw a copy of Vista, it'd wreak bloody vengeance on mankind... And I can't say I'd blame it.