NationStates Jolt Archive


Iranian Espionage

USMC leathernecks2
25-04-2007, 22:56
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070421/power-plant-software

Thoughts?
Drunk commies deleted
25-04-2007, 22:59
I think we should let a judge and jury decide if he's guilty or not. I also think NS is starting to get a bit boring.
Call to power
25-04-2007, 23:26
sounds like a bullshit case in a time of paranoia

though even if it is true, so what nuclear reactors aren't offensive weapons

edit: also I don't think anyone can call it ass-hattery when the information he was allegedly stealing is nuclear safety something which should really be given to Iran just because of how stupid it is not to
Zarakon
25-04-2007, 23:50
sounds like a bullshit case in a time of paranoia

though even if it is true, so what nuclear reactors aren't offensive weapons

Have you ever had a nuclear reactor dropped on your foot? It hurts like hell.
Nodinia
26-04-2007, 13:19
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070421/power-plant-software

Thoughts?

The Chinese do it, the Israelis do it, the French do it.......Be worrying if nobody was interested, I'd imagine.
Ifreann
26-04-2007, 13:19
He is charged with a single count of violating a trade embargo that prohibits Americans from exporting goods and services to Iran.
So, it's not a problem that he sold computer access codes, but it's a problem that he sold them to Iran?
Nodinia
26-04-2007, 13:21
Have you ever had a nuclear reactor dropped on your foot? It hurts like hell.

Potentially one placed in a football sock, or similar, and swung, could be quite deadly....
Call to power
26-04-2007, 13:25
So, it's not a problem that he sold computer access codes, but it's a problem that he sold them to Iran?

maybe the US government uses Microsoft :p
Grave_n_idle
26-04-2007, 13:33
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070421/power-plant-software

Thoughts?

"Palo Verde Info Available On Web

PHOENIX -- A government Web site and public libraries offer some of the information contained in software that a former engineer at the nation's largest nuclear plant is accused of using while in Iran.

Investigators said they don't believe software engineer Mohammad Alavi intended to provide details of the Palo Verde Nuclear Generation Station to terrorists."

http://www.kpho.com/news/12997462/detail.html?rss=pho&psp=news

I think the training information he allegedly took, is apparently mostly readily available inline already, no?
Risottia
26-04-2007, 13:45
He is charged with a single count of violating a trade embargo that prohibits Americans from exporting goods and services to Iran. If convicted, he would face up to 21 months in prison.

...

The FBI said there was no evidence to suggest the software access was linked to the Iranian government, which has clashed with the West over attempts to develop its own nuclear program.

"The investigation has not led us to believe this information was taken for the purpose of being used by a foreign government or terrorists to attack us," said Deborah McCarley, a spokeswoman for the FBI in Phoenix.

That is, even the FBI claims this guy isn't a spy.

OH MY GOD! NON-AMERICANS COULD BUILD A NUCLEAR REACTOR! THEY WANT TO KILL US! MOMMYYYYYY!!!
:rolleyes:
Hispanionla
26-04-2007, 14:51
Independently of the circumstances of the case, the keeping of information on all things nuclear should be a state decision, given it's danger. Not the decision of one guy with nationalism issues.

His middle-easternness probably won't help his case. Whether or not the judge is a racist bastard, the average person will go "WOMFG T3H ARUBS NUKULR WEPS!!" at this.
Slaughterhouse five
26-04-2007, 15:07
we should be helping the iranians to get nuclear power plants. at least in this way we can check to make sure that what they are doing is in fact making electrcity and not bombs.
OcceanDrive
26-04-2007, 16:09
.. nationalism issues.Patriotism/nationalism create War and death.
Bodies Without Organs
26-04-2007, 16:39
Patriotism/nationalism create War and death.

Yes, but they also gave us the Eurovision Song Contest.
Compulsive Depression
26-04-2007, 16:40
You want to be a bit wary about stealing yankee software (http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=829). Now imagine that with a nuclear plant and not a gas pipe...
UNIverseVERSE
26-04-2007, 17:24
Yes, but they also gave us the Eurovision Song Contest.

Like he said, war and death.