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Who thinks boys all need a good kicking?

Luipaard
25-04-2007, 18:02
This is a thread for all the girls on the site, who in general think guys are lovely creature, but just every so often want to kick them and scream alot because they have dont something that just completely dives you mad.

So whats your story? What did the idiot do now?
Nadkor
25-04-2007, 18:09
I'm like that with people in general, not just guys...
Greyenivol Colony
25-04-2007, 18:09
The joke's on you! Kicks only make us stronger!!!
Imitora
25-04-2007, 18:10
I'm a guy, and I'll agree, most guys do need a good shot in the nuts.
Arthais101
25-04-2007, 18:10
You know,if I created a thread called "who thinks their women need to be slapped in the face a few times, now and then" I wonder what kind of reception it would get.
Arinola
25-04-2007, 18:11
You know,if I created a thread called "who thinks their women need to be slapped in the face a few times, now and then" I wonder what kind of reception it would get.

Quoted for mighty truth.

You know, it's not always the guy who fucks up. I know that might shatter your teen illusion of the bastard boyfriend, and the girls always being perfect and innocent, but it's true. Sorry.
Drunk commies deleted
25-04-2007, 18:13
You know,if I created a thread called "who thinks their women need to be slapped in the face a few times, now and then" I wonder what kind of reception it would get.

That reaction is only appropriate if she spilled your coffee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZQLeeNo6Qw).
Kryozerkia
25-04-2007, 18:13
Besides putting clean laundry in the laundry basket, not doing the dishes after I make dinner, whining because the cat box smells yet doing nothing about it? Leaving clothing lying around; garbage on the floor...? Ad nauseum...
[NS]Trilby63
25-04-2007, 18:14
Kicking? Maybe not...

Spanking, though? Well if you're offering..
Naestoria
25-04-2007, 18:14
Why is this thread limited to girls? As a male, I can agree that most males do occasionally require a kick. So do most females, and most androgynous individuals, those still recovering from sex-change surgery, and hermaphrodites. It's the way of humanity.
Arinola
25-04-2007, 18:18
Egghiccup;12580263']
Whereas women use too much toilet paper because they have two bottoms.

Quoted for mighty funniness.
Isidoor
25-04-2007, 18:22
So whats your story? What did the idiot do now?

what did he do to you?
The_pantless_hero
25-04-2007, 18:23
You know,if I created a thread called "who thinks their women need to be slapped in the face a few times, now and then" I wonder what kind of reception it would get.

I vote we try it and see.
Londim
25-04-2007, 18:23
Quick men! They're onto us! Jockstraps at the ready!
Rameria
25-04-2007, 18:28
Sometimes people do things that are annoying, and it's not limited to males. Welcome to life.
The Lone Alliance
25-04-2007, 18:28
You know,if I created a thread called "who thinks their women need to be slapped in the face a few times, now and then" I wonder what kind of reception it would get.
Do it! I really want to see the reaction.
Greater Trostia
25-04-2007, 18:30
See, this is just part of the metrosexual anti-equality culture we have where women are perfect, emotionally sensitive, intelligent and wonderful beings, and men are the lowest scum against whom violence doesn't even count as a violation of any rights since they are subhuman.
The Tribes Of Longton
25-04-2007, 18:37
Women are equally as useless as men.

Equlolity?
Walther Realized
25-04-2007, 18:42
You know,if I created a thread called "who thinks their women need to be slapped in the face a few times, now and then" I wonder what kind of reception it would get.

Guys tend to take disparaging jokes in stride and laugh along with them (just look at the first few posts). Women tend to cry "sexist" and explain how terrible guys are for making such a joke. Heck, most men say it's terrible to joke about it. Fascinating, to say the least.
Drunk commies deleted
25-04-2007, 18:44
Guys tend to take disparaging jokes in stride and laugh along with them (just look at the posts above). Women tend to cry "sexist" and explain how terrible guys are for making such a joke. Heck, most men say it's terrible to joke about it. Fascinating, to say the least.

That's because women are delicate and need men to protect them.
Kryozerkia
25-04-2007, 18:44
Women are equally as useless as men.

Equlolity?

Of course both sexes are equally as useless as the other; it just happens that men are more useless as certain things and women with others.
Underdownia
25-04-2007, 18:54
Kicking? I think we can all see that's a ridiculous suggestion, and a wholly inappropriate one. It is just not a moral way to behave. How about hunting them with hounds?
Luipaard
25-04-2007, 18:56
Kicking? I think we can all see that's a ridiculous suggestion, and a wholly inappropriate one. It is just not a moral way to behave. How about hunting them with hounds?

Yes, that would work too, tho of course only if you have a bird of prey with you, otherwise its just cruel.
Dundee-Fienn
25-04-2007, 18:57
Egghiccup;12580263']Men get on better with their lives because they retain a childish quality for their whole lives, making them mainly endearing and honestly beautiful beings.

Whereas women use too much toilet paper because they have two bottoms.

Does the fact that I keep bursting out laughing about this statement mean i've retained my childish qualities?
Luipaard
25-04-2007, 18:58
what did he do to you?

Yes, girls can be idiots just as much as guys can, but he was being really annoying! I told him i was too good to be a rebound shag, and he answered this with a quote from the wizard of oz, which he apparently expects me to understand.
Guys are only infuriating to girls because we love them so much. I only didnt say about girls being infuriating to guys cause i dont know if guys minds work that way.
SimNewtonia
25-04-2007, 19:00
I'm a guy, and I'll agree, most guys do need a good shot in the nuts.

Traitor!

:mad:

*glares*
Extreme Ironing
25-04-2007, 19:01
You must kick him well, and after you are done with him, you may deal with him as you like... and then... kick me.

"And me. And me too. And me."

Yes. Yes, you must give us all a good kicking. And after the kickng, the oral sex.
The Tribes Of Longton
25-04-2007, 19:05
Yes, girls can be idiots just as much as guys can, but he was being really annoying! I told him i was too good to be a rebound shag, and he answered this with a quote from the wizard of oz, which he apparently expects me to understand.
Guys are only infuriating to girls because we love them so much. I only didnt say about girls being infuriating to guys cause i dont know if guys minds work that way.
Nah, we've got the whole "what the fuck are you on about" perspective to deal with. Once we get past the misunderstandings of seemingly pointless irrationalities it gets betterer.

Points to Extreme Ironing for Monty Python homages. For Great Justice!

EDIT: What was the quote? This could be poignant.
Luipaard
25-04-2007, 19:07
Um...what?

Funnily enough that pretty much what i thought.
Smunkeeville
25-04-2007, 19:09
I get that sometimes, I don't think it's gender specific though, there are just times I want to kick people in the head. ;)
Arthais101
25-04-2007, 19:09
Yes, girls can be idiots just as much as guys can, but he was being really annoying! I told him i was too good to be a rebound shag, and he answered this with a quote from the wizard of oz, which he apparently expects me to understand.

Um...what?
The Tribes Of Longton
25-04-2007, 19:12
The quote was:

"There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home" (and click your heels together...)

Now, what i had said to get told this was "If you need that much incentive you should just stop chasing me then. Im too good to just be your rebound shag."

How did his mind get there??
Too much acid whilst trying to sync Dark Side of the Moon with the Wizard of Oz, probably.
Luipaard
25-04-2007, 19:12
so, again, what teenage drama prompted this suggestion that our other halves should go assaulting us?

Its not that much of a teenage drama, he is 28. Its a childish drama because people dont grow up until they have kids (or at least thats what my mum always says)
Luipaard
25-04-2007, 19:12
Nah, we've got the whole "what the fuck are you on about" perspective to deal with. Once we get past the misunderstandings of seemingly pointless irrationalities it gets betterer.

Points to Extreme Ironing for Monty Python homages. For Great Justice!

EDIT: What was the quote? This could be poignant.

The quote was:

"There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home" (and click your heels together...)

Now, what i had said to get told this was "If you need that much incentive you should just stop chasing me then. Im too good to just be your rebound shag."

How did his mind get there??
Arthais101
25-04-2007, 19:13
Funnily enough that pretty much what i thought.

so, again, what teenage drama prompted this suggestion that our other halves should go assaulting us?
Arthais101
25-04-2007, 19:14
The quote was:

"There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home" (and click your heels together...)

Now, what i had said to get told this was "If you need that much incentive you should just stop chasing me then. Im too good to just be your rebound shag."

How did his mind get there??

May I suggest he would be a better source for an answer than random people on the internet?
Isidoor
25-04-2007, 19:14
I only didnt say about girls being infuriating to guys cause i dont know if guys minds work that way.

i don't know if my mind works that way either. i'm not really fast infuriated.
Greater Trostia
25-04-2007, 19:15
Well funnily enough i thought that too, so have asked him. Sadly he hasnt answered yet (cause the whole conversation is taking place over facebook messages)

...


>_>



<_<


...kids these days...
Luipaard
25-04-2007, 19:16
May I suggest he would be a better source for an answer than random people on the internet?

Well funnily enough i thought that too, so have asked him. Sadly he hasnt answered yet (cause the whole conversation is taking place over facebook messages)
Bolol
25-04-2007, 19:17
Guys do piss me off sometimes.

...As do old people, young people, middle aged people, white people, black people, Hispanic people, Asian people, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans and yes...girls.

Just face it...people on a whole can be good, and I get along well with all.

...but they all have the same capacity to be a complete pain in the ass.

THIS, along with time and physics, is one of the universe's few fundamental truths.
Luipaard
25-04-2007, 19:19
Guys do piss me off sometimes.

...As do old people, young people, middle aged people, white people, black people, Hispanic people, Asian people, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans and yes...girls.

Just face it...people on a whole can be good, and I get along well with all.

...but they all have the same capacity to be a complete pain in the ass.

THIS, along with time and physics, is one of the universe's few fundamental truths.

So true. I suppose it makes life more interesting eh?
Newer Burmecia
25-04-2007, 19:25
This is a thread for all the girls on the site, who in general think guys are lovely creature, but just every so often want to kick them and scream alot because they have dont something that just completely dives you mad.

So whats your story? What did the idiot do now?
I've lost my pencil case, my keys, my work, the work I have is made of fail and on top of that I've got a bleeding broken toe that hurts every sodding time I walk anywhere. So no, I don't need kicking.
Roylania
25-04-2007, 19:26
I'm a guy, and I'll agree, most guys do need a good shot in the nuts.

I'm with you broda. Then of course I've gotten so use to them they come second nature.
Luipaard
25-04-2007, 19:28
I've lost my pencil case, my keys, my work, the work I have is made of fail and on top of that I've got a bleeding broken toe that hurts every sodding time I walk anywhere. So no, I don't need kicking.

Aww, you poor thing! :fluffle:
Hydesland
25-04-2007, 19:31
You should have just posted this straight in spam, anything you post here will be taken too seriously and be immediately politicised. You are gonna have to wait for 20 pages now. Oh well.
Extreme Ironing
25-04-2007, 19:32
I've lost my pencil case, my keys, my work, the work I have is made of fail and on top of that I've got a bleeding broken toe that hurts every sodding time I walk anywhere. So no, I don't need kicking.

What happened? :fluffle:
Zarakon
25-04-2007, 19:33
This always offends me. Why is it okay for a woman to slap a man, but not okay for a man to slap a woman? Why aren't both inappropriate?

Could you imagine the flames if a thread had been started called "Who thinks all woman need a good beating" or maybe "Who thinks all feminists need a good wallopin'"?

Sexist. Violent. Stupid. Hateful.

Those are the only words that can describe this thread.
Ashmoria
25-04-2007, 19:35
This always offends me. Why is it okay for a woman to slap a man, but not okay for a man to slap a woman? Why aren't both inappropriate?

Could you imagine the flames if a thread had been started called "Who thinks all woman need a good beating" or maybe "Who thinks all feminists need a good wallopin'"?

Sexist. Violent. Stupid. Hateful.

Those are the only words that can describe this thread.

uh

no one got kicked.
Newer Burmecia
25-04-2007, 19:38
What happened? :fluffle:
Thieving bloody Year 12s, and drunken Cossack dancing.:eek:
Compulsive Depression
25-04-2007, 19:39
"If you need that much incentive you should just stop chasing me then. Im too good to just be your rebound shag."

Well that's over-complicated. If you just don't want to shag him, why go to those lengths? Sounds like you really do, but you've been conditioned that sex outside of (the pretence of) a lengthy relationship is wrong.

You want to fuck him: fuck him.

You don't want to fuck him: tell him "Shag you? I'd rather perform oral sex on an unwashed, leprous elephant, then gargle his sticky load". That ought to discourage him, at least until he's drank away the mental image.

Why piss around with excuses about "just" being a rebound shag?

*Insert disclaimer about ages of consent, safe sex practices, etc. here*
Luipaard
25-04-2007, 19:40
This always offends me. Why is it okay for a woman to slap a man, but not okay for a man to slap a woman? Why aren't both inappropriate?

Could you imagine the flames if a thread had been started called "Who thinks all woman need a good beating" or maybe "Who thinks all feminists need a good wallopin'"?

Sexist. Violent. Stupid. Hateful.

Those are the only words that can describe this thread.

Please, calm down! Im not actually going to kick anyone! But ok, is it possible to shut down your own thread?
Smunkeeville
25-04-2007, 19:41
This always offends me. Why is it okay for a woman to slap a man, but not okay for a man to slap a woman? Why aren't both inappropriate?

Could you imagine the flames if a thread had been started called "Who thinks all woman need a good beating" or maybe "Who thinks all feminists need a good wallopin'"?

Sexist. Violent. Stupid. Hateful.

Those are the only words that can describe this thread.

it's unacceptable to hit/kick/maim anyone regardless of age, gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, etc.

however, I do want to kick people in the head, I just have the maturity and self control to know it's not productive.
Neo Bretonnia
25-04-2007, 19:42
My wife and I have discussed this sort of thing at length, and what we've realized is that this sort of frustration comes from the inherent diffreences in the way men and women think.

Women are exceptionally good at multitasking. They can literally walk and chew bubblegum simultaneously while carrying on a conversation. This means they have the capacity for great complexity in their thoughts and feelings.

Men are simple. We can do one thing at a time and one thing only. We aren't complex because we CAN'T be. Frankly, we like it this way. We think of it as being specialized in one thing at a time. :)

Men get frustrated with women because we see them as overly complex and emotional. Women get frustrated with men because they expect us to be complex and we're not.

Maybe that's why women jokingly talk about the brutishness or stupidity of men. They see our simple approach and from their point of view, we appear to not be intelligent enough to be anything else. That frustrates them because they KNOW we're smart, we just don't appear to be acting in an intelligent way.

Try adapting that theory to some of the stories women have of the aggravating male behavior. You'd be surprised at how often it works.

(Anti-flame disclaimer:)
This is a generalization, of course. There are always exceptions.
SaintB
25-04-2007, 19:42
Sometimes everyone needs a good kicking. Human beings are far from perfect creatures, men or women.
Greater Trostia
25-04-2007, 19:42
uh

no one got kicked.

Irrelevant. What if the thread was, "Who thinks girls all need a good kicking?"
Isidoor
25-04-2007, 19:42
uh

no one got kicked.

i think he's talking about the idea behind the thread in general, not about the thread itself.
Piresa
25-04-2007, 19:43
This thread is essentially spam.

As a result, I shall spam.

SPAM!
Hydesland
25-04-2007, 19:43
Irrelevant. What if the thread was, "Who thinks girls all need a good kicking?"

Why don't you make one.
Luipaard
25-04-2007, 19:47
This thread is essentially spam.

As a result, I shall spam.

SPAM!

I know, and i regret making this thread now, and am trying to get it closed down, so please NO-ONE POST ANY MORE!!
Ashmoria
25-04-2007, 19:50
Irrelevant. What if the thread was, "Who thinks girls all need a good kicking?"

relevant when he called the thread violent stupid and hateful.

which its not.

as to the "who thinks girls" question, that would depend on the content of the OP wouldnt it?
Smunkeeville
25-04-2007, 19:50
My wife and I have discussed this sort of thing at length, and what we've realized is that this sort of frustration comes from the inherent diffreences in the way men and women think.

Women are exceptionally good at multitasking. They can literally walk and chew bubblegum simultaneously while carrying on a conversation. This means they have the capacity for great complexity in their thoughts and feelings.

Men are simple. We can do one thing at a time and one thing only. We aren't complex because we CAN'T be. Frankly, we like it this way. We think of it as being specialized in one thing at a time. :)

Men get frustrated with women because we see them as overly complex and emotional. Women get frustrated with men because they expect us to be complex and we're not.

Maybe that's why women jokingly talk about the brutishness or stupidity of men. They see our simple approach and from their point of view, we appear to not be intelligent enough to be anything else. That frustrates them because they KNOW we're smart, we just don't appear to be acting in an intelligent way.

Try adapting that theory to some of the stories women have of the aggravating male behavior. You'd be surprised at how often it works.

(Anti-flame disclaimer:)
This is a generalization, of course. There are always exceptions.

you know what gets me though? it took me at least 2 years to figure out that what my husband says is exactly what he means, and then another year to figure out that I have to say exactly what I mean or he is oblivious......and so I try to pass on this wisdom right? who listens to me? nobody. :(

oh, and the other thing that pisses me off (because I don't understand)

me: whatcha thinking about?
him: nothing

:eek: I always feel like he is lying... how do you think about nothing?! I don't understand.......I am always thinking about at least 20 things at once.
IL Ruffino
25-04-2007, 19:52
Why can a girl kick a guy, but a guy can't kick a girl?
Hydesland
25-04-2007, 19:53
Why can a girl kick a guy, but a guy can't kick a girl?

Probably because the guy will do a lot more damage to the girl, then the girl will to the guy.
Johnny B Goode
25-04-2007, 19:55
This is a thread for all the girls on the site, who in general think guys are lovely creature, but just every so often want to kick them and scream alot because they have dont something that just completely dives you mad.

So whats your story? What did the idiot do now?

Oy...I've had enough grief for one day. The last thing I need is a bunch of angry female NSers trying to kick my nuts.
Nadkor
25-04-2007, 19:55
Why can a girl kick a guy, but a guy can't kick a girl?

Didn't bother to read the rest of the thread, huh?:p
Smunkeeville
25-04-2007, 19:58
Why can a girl kick a guy, but a guy can't kick a girl?

momma always said "don't start a fight you can't win"

I never really understood what value that had... I mean was I supposed to beat up on the weak kids?:confused:
Greater Trostia
25-04-2007, 19:58
relevant when he called the thread violent stupid and hateful.

which its not.

Of course it is. It advocates violence towards men.

As for stupidity, well, that's a bit more subjective.

as to the "who thinks girls" question, that would depend on the content of the OP wouldnt it?

Not really. Just use the same one, change the genders. The thread would be slammed by nearly everyone as being misogynistic and sexist and probably closed.
Hydesland
25-04-2007, 20:01
Of course it is. It advocates violence towards men.

As for stupidity, well, that's a bit more subjective.


It's pretty obvious that she isn't actually advocating violence to men.
The Pictish Revival
25-04-2007, 20:02
momma always said "don't start a fight you can't win"


Loser talk. If you go about with that attitude, you aren't going to win any fights.
IL Ruffino
25-04-2007, 20:03
Probably because the guy will do a lot more damage to the girl, then the girl will to the guy.
How sexist.
Didn't bother to read the rest of the thread, huh?:p
Absolutly correct.
momma always said "don't start a fight you can't win"

I never really understood what value that had... I mean was I supposed to beat up on the weak kids?:confused:

Momma also said "Life is like a box of chocolates."

Cheap generic piece of shit chocolate. :( :p
Ashmoria
25-04-2007, 20:06
Why can a girl kick a guy, but a guy can't kick a girl?

kicking is never OK except in self defense.
Extreme Ironing
25-04-2007, 20:06
oh, and the other thing that pisses me off (because I don't understand)

me: whatcha thinking about?
him: nothing

:eek: I always feel like he is lying... how do you think about nothing?! I don't understand.......I am always thinking about at least 20 things at once.

The same way you go to sleep or meditate.
Hydesland
25-04-2007, 20:06
How sexist.


Still true generally.
Smunkeeville
25-04-2007, 20:06
Loser talk. If you go about with that attitude, you aren't going to win any fights.

I try not to get into any fights now, but back when I did fight a bit, I never started them, only finished them, and only lost once.
Ashmoria
25-04-2007, 20:10
Of course it is. It advocates violence towards men.

As for stupidity, well, that's a bit more subjective.



Not really. Just use the same one, change the genders. The thread would be slammed by nearly everyone as being misogynistic and sexist and probably closed.

no it doesnt. all it says is that "all boys" need a good kicking. needing one does not imply getting one. no only that but it ASKS, it doesnt imply an answer.

i doubt that Luipaard would kick her boy if he were standing right in front of her with his eyes closed chanting "theres no place like home" over and over.
Ultraviolent Radiation
25-04-2007, 20:10
Double standard. Been said already, but that about covers it.

you know what gets me though? it took me at least 2 years to figure out that what my husband says is exactly what he means, and then another year to figure out that I have to say exactly what I mean or he is oblivious......and so I try to pass on this wisdom right? who listens to me? nobody. :(

Yeah, I remember trying to teach that to someone. "I mean what I said. That's why I said it!"
The Pictish Revival
25-04-2007, 20:12
I try not to get into any fights now, but back when I did fight a bit, I never started them, only finished them, and only lost once.

So... you were always defending yourself? Surely then, you were doing so out of necessity, rather than because you had done as your mum suggested and weighed up whether or not you could win?
IL Ruffino
25-04-2007, 20:17
kicking is never OK except in self defense.
So I can kick a girl in self defense?
Still true generally.

No, it's just sexist and bullshit.
The_pantless_hero
25-04-2007, 20:19
momma always said "don't start a fight you can't win"
Momma also said knock you out.
Smunkeeville
25-04-2007, 20:19
Yeah, I remember trying to teach that to someone. "I mean what I said. That's why I said it!"

yeah, it was one of those things....

"what do you want for dinner?"
"I don't care"
"so anything?"
"don't care"
"hamburger soup?"
"sure"
"tacos?"
"sure"
"salmon?"
"okay"
"you don't care?"
"I already said I don't care"
"so you don't care at all what you want for dinner?"
:mad:

It took me like 3 hours to figure out why he was mad. :p
Greater Trostia
25-04-2007, 20:19
no it doesnt. all it says is that "all boys" need a good kicking. needing one does not imply getting one. no only that but it ASKS, it doesnt imply an answer.

Whatever. "Who thinks all Jews need a good gassing?" "Who thinks all Muslims should be imprisoned and raped?" "Who thinks all women should be beaten by their husbands?" "Who thinks that all children should be sexually molested and left for dead in a dark alleyway?"

None of THOSE are good thread titles. But hey, 'needing doesn't imply getting,' so maybe you should go ahead and try them out. Me, I don't need to break a forum rule, or common decency, in order to know it exists.
Hydesland
25-04-2007, 20:20
No, it's just sexist and bullshit.

No it isn't.
The Pictish Revival
25-04-2007, 20:21
I don't like to fight. If someone hits me though it pretty much pisses me off, so I fight back......

I only ever hit someone first once, and he had my arm and wouldn't let go and I told him 3 times to let go, and he dug his nails into my arm and it started to bleed so I punched him in the face. I think I was probably justified.

There you go then: you have the winning attitude. You needed to hit him so you did. And kudos to you for not liking to fight - it's pretty much kid's stuff.
Smunkeeville
25-04-2007, 20:21
So... you were always defending yourself? Surely then, you were doing so out of necessity, rather than because you had done as your mum suggested and weighed up whether or not you could win?

I don't like to fight. If someone hits me though it pretty much pisses me off, so I fight back......

I only ever hit someone first once, and he had my arm and wouldn't let go and I told him 3 times to let go, and he dug his nails into my arm and it started to bleed so I punched him in the face. I think I was probably justified.
Ashmoria
25-04-2007, 20:24
Whatever. "Who thinks all Jews need a good gassing?" "Who thinks all Muslims should be imprisoned and raped?" "Who thinks all women should be beaten by their husbands?" "Who thinks that all children should be sexually molested and left for dead in a dark alleyway?"

None of THOSE are good thread titles. But hey, 'needing doesn't imply getting,' so maybe you should go ahead and try them out. Me, I don't need to break a forum rule, or common decency, in order to know it exists.

and if it had been over the top like that rather than an obvious expression of frustration your shock and horror would be more appropriate.
Isidoor
25-04-2007, 20:25
Loser talk. If you go about with that attitude, you aren't going to win any fights.

actually, iirc, that saying dates back to sun tzu (or what's his name?). and he's quite an authority when it comes to fighting.
Tarlachia
25-04-2007, 20:28
you know what gets me though? it took me at least 2 years to figure out that what my husband says is exactly what he means, and then another year to figure out that I have to say exactly what I mean or he is oblivious......and so I try to pass on this wisdom right? who listens to me? nobody. :(

oh, and the other thing that pisses me off (because I don't understand)

me: whatcha thinking about?
him: nothing

:eek: I always feel like he is lying... how do you think about nothing?! I don't understand.......I am always thinking about at least 20 things at once.

Smunk, here's your answer as to the "nothing" thought.

Why do guys say that? Simple, it's because it's nothing worth repeating or informing you about. Guys know you're likely to worry or otherwise bring further unwanted discussion about whatever it is they really are thinking about. So, they'll clam up. If they see an alternative route that leads to a more peaceful situation overall, it's likely they'll take it because they'd rather not want to have to deal with potential stress or arguments.

So, all in all, perhaps you should give your husband a bit of more respect and understanding now that you know he's doing it for your best interests.

Alas, I am just another voice on the net. You should discuss that with your husband to see what he has to say about it. Just...don't take it too far.

EDIT: However, take it from me, there are times when we really just don't think at all, but rather just zone out. Happens to me sometimes after a long day, or at the end of some difficult task or job.
The Pictish Revival
25-04-2007, 20:32
actually, iirc, that saying dates back to sun tzu (or what's his name?). and he's quite an authority when it comes to fighting.

Well, duh.
Leading an army in battle or war, where you are responsible for the lives of thousands, is a bit different to some silly pushing and shoving in the pub car park.

And don't try telling me it's the same in principle. Bluff and attitude will just about always get you through in a one on one fight, while generals who bluff rarely succeed.
Neo Bretonnia
25-04-2007, 20:32
you know what gets me though? it took me at least 2 years to figure out that what my husband says is exactly what he means, and then another year to figure out that I have to say exactly what I mean or he is oblivious......and so I try to pass on this wisdom right? who listens to me? nobody. :(

oh, and the other thing that pisses me off (because I don't understand)

me: whatcha thinking about?
him: nothing

:eek: I always feel like he is lying... how do you think about nothing?! I don't understand.......I am always thinking about at least 20 things at once.

Hee hee a perfect example, although when a guy says "nothing" he either literally means "nothing" or, in some exceptions:

-He means "nothing of any importance." he might be thinking about whether to use tweezers or nail clippers to pull a hangnail.

-He means "nothing you'd be interested in" like what the score was in the hockey game last night (although admittedly most women would like to hear about the game, if for nothing else a chance to have a conversation.

-he means "nothing I want to talk about right now." Usually the case right after he gets home from work. best approach: leave him alone for an hour or so so he can unwind, then you're much more likely to get a useful answer.

But make no mistake, it's entirely possible for a man to be thinking of absolultely nothing at a given moment. Usually that happens in moments when we're just relaxing and enjoying life, hoping our wives don't start bugging us to tell them what we're thinking about :D

(Just kidding about that last bit ;) )
IL Ruffino
25-04-2007, 20:33
No it isn't.

"OMG! Why did you just kick her?!"
"Because she kicked me.."
"But she's a girl!"

:rolleyes:
Hydesland
25-04-2007, 20:35
"OMG! Why did you just kick her?!"
"Because she kicked me.."
"But she's a girl!"

:rolleyes:

I never said you should kick a girl.
Neo Bretonnia
25-04-2007, 20:39
One of the wisest men I have ever heard is a guy by the name of John Gray, author of Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.

The one thing I took from the book that was most valuable is the idea that men need time, right after they get home from work, to unwind and transition from the work mentality to the home mentality. Remember, men are single minded, so we have to switch gears.

Women, by contrast, are ready and eager to talk about their day when they get home. It's how they unwind. Conflict arises when the differences aren't accounted for. How often do you see scenarios where husbands appear grouchy or anti-social when they first get home? The wife tries to talk to him and he's snappish and unapproachable?

It's because he needs an hour or so to mentally switch from thinking about work to being home. If you just give him that time, he'll be much more agreeable later.
IL Ruffino
25-04-2007, 20:41
I never said you should kick a girl.

Where did I say you did?
Kevin Chou
25-04-2007, 20:44
One of the wisest men I have ever heard is a guy by the name of John Gray, author of Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.

The one thing I took from the book that was most valuable is the idea that men need time, right after they get home from work, to unwind and transition from the work mentality to the home mentality. Remember, men are single minded, so we have to switch gears.

Women, by contrast, are ready and eager to talk about their day when they get home. It's how they unwind. Conflict arises when the differences aren't accounted for. How often do you see scenarios where husbands appear grouchy or anti-social when they first get home? The wife tries to talk to him and he's snappish and unapproachable?

It's because he needs an hour or so to mentally switch from thinking about work to being home. If you just give him that time, he'll be much more agreeable later.



You are awesome.
Tarlachia
25-04-2007, 20:44
Neo Bretonnia, beat ya to the punch.

Another example to understand men's thinking vs. women's.

I'm sure you know of the differences between manual (stick-shift) and automatic drive vehicles.

Men are manual. Gotta use a little time to hit the pause button (the clutch) shift to different thinking (higher or lower gears, depending on the situation).

Women are just quicker at it, I suppose.
Hydesland
25-04-2007, 20:47
Where did I say you did?

Why else have someone go "OMG! Why did you just kick her?! ...." if I never tried to justify it in the first place.
IL Ruffino
25-04-2007, 20:48
Why else have someone go "OMG! Why did you just kick her?! ...." if I never tried to justify it in the first place.

No no no..

Nevermind, it flew right over your head.
Dinaverg
25-04-2007, 21:00
Neo Bretonnia, beat ya to the punch.

Another example to understand men's thinking vs. women's.

Wow, why am I not liking this line of conversation? The idea here, "Men can only have a single mode of thought at any one point in time"...I mean, sure, when you first hear it, it sounds all interesting, and you're like "Hey yeah, I remember this one time...", but c'mon, think about it, eh? First of all, what are we even saying? Men can't think about stuff going on at home while at the desk? Men only follow one train of thoght at a time? from neo's post, it sounds more like we're bipolar, and have two very different personalities which we can only show one at a time, as opposed to...what? Women showing multiple 'mentalities' simultaeneously?
SimNewtonia
25-04-2007, 21:58
Why else have someone go "OMG! Why did you just kick her?! ...." if I never tried to justify it in the first place.

LOL.

Point being made was how stupid it is not to defend yourself. :p
Zarakon
25-04-2007, 22:06
uh

no one got kicked.

It's the point. The concept of a woman slapping a man is acceptable, but the concept of a man slapping a woman is considered abusive.

What would happen if someone started a thread called "Who thinks faggots all need a good kicking?"? How about "Who thinks all blacks need a good kicking?" All women? All jews?

My rule is if someone ever hits me hard enough to hurt, no matter what gender they are, they're going to be hit back. I'm equal-opportunity even when it's not advantageous to the person being offered the opportunity.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. But let's face it, when was the last time you met a mean blind person?
Terrorist Cakes
25-04-2007, 22:26
Where do I even begin? You've all heard far too many stories about my dear Manbeast. Sometimes he has a girlfriend, sometimes they're just friends, sometimes he acts like he likes a girl, sometimes he acts like he doesnt' want to be tied down. Normally, in this kind of situation, it would be best to give up entirely. However, there's always just enough to have reason to hold on. For example, thursday, we spent the whole bloody afternoon "alone together" talking, play fighting, searching for clocks. I was supposed to be at choir, and he was supposed to go home, but sometimes when we start talking, it's like it's impossible to stop, and we're late for wherever we're supposed to be. But then friday, I heard this other girl he's been involved with saying that he called her. Then monday and tuesday he talked to me a bit, and stared at me a couple times a lunch, and then today he completely snubbed me. It's like one day he's all over me, and the next he's pretending we've never even spoken. It's not even like being platonic friends; nobody treats their friends that weirdly. My greatest hope is that we're kind of both playing the same head game. Sometimes I feel like too much time together makes us both lose control, and maybe he feels that, too. Or maybe he's just a stupid flirt. I hope not.
Zarakon
25-04-2007, 22:43
Where do I even begin? You've all heard far too many stories about my dear Manbeast. Sometimes he has a girlfriend, sometimes they're just friends, sometimes he acts like he likes a girl, sometimes he acts like he doesnt' want to be tied down. Normally, in this kind of situation, it would be best to give up entirely. However, there's always just enough to have reason to hold on. For example, thursday, we spent the whole bloody afternoon "alone together" talking, play fighting, searching for clocks. I was supposed to be at choir, and he was supposed to go home, but sometimes when we start talking, it's like it's impossible to stop, and we're late for wherever we're supposed to be. But then friday, I heard this other girl he's been involved with saying that he called her. Then monday and tuesday he talked to me a bit, and stared at me a couple times a lunch, and then today he completely snubbed me. It's like one day he's all over me, and the next he's pretending we've never even spoken. It's not even like being platonic friends; nobody treats their friends that weirdly. My greatest hope is that we're kind of both playing the same head game. Sometimes I feel like too much time together makes us both lose control, and maybe he feels that, too. Or maybe he's just a stupid flirt. I hope not.

We seem to get a lot of stories like this on NSG.
HotRodia
25-04-2007, 22:54
Please, calm down! Im not actually going to kick anyone! But ok, is it possible to shut down your own thread?

Well, since you asked so nicely. And these issues can be discussed more effectively if you start a less ranty thread anyway.

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