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I just bought a hard drive for my Mac, and it has firewire, but my computer doesn't seem to acknowledge that there is a hard drive there at all. I plugged my other one in with the same cable and it shows up fine. The instructions say I don't need the startup disk, is that a lie? A dirty dirty lie? Or did I buy a borked hard drive? If so, is crying appropriate?

Why doesn't water burn?

I'm tempted to say "buy a pc" but I'm not gonna go down to that level :)

Since you checked the cable and found nothing there, maybe some drivers are in order? Check the manufacturers homepage for more info or yell at the retailer. If you bought damaged goods I'm sure your warranty will cover it, no?

I'm tempted to say "buy a pc" but I'm not gonna go down to that level :)

Since you checked the cable and found nothing there, maybe some drivers are in order? Check the manufacturers homepage for more info or yell at the retailer. If you bought damaged goods I'm sure your warranty will cover it, no?

Ah yes...looking shit up before admitting that I'm too stupid to look shit up before I whine...


...which is to say that I just got back from the manufacturers page which explained the problem (my outish of date version of OS X) and I fixed it.

If the thread serves any more purpose I guess it would be for IT guys to come complain about dumbasses like myself.

Why doesn't water burn?

No carbon?

Here's a religious version:

In a union that is only fully understood by God, atoms can bond together to form something completely different — something that didn’t exist before. Something that that has absolutely no characteristics of the original raw materials.

God allows us to use electrolysis to break the hydrogen and oxygen apart. But He bonds them together so tightly that it usually requires more energy to break them up than what is yielded in fuel. When God sticks things together, He generally doesn’t mess around.

In the book of Second Corinthians, the Apostle Paul tells us that “if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature”. The implication is that we are made into a new species, literally something that never existed before, something that has no characteristics of the original raw material.

I guess God knows what He’s doing. After all, He can take the most perfect fuel in the universe and turn it into a pretty good fire extinguisher.

H2O + O2 -> H2O + CO2 + Energy

Well you've just turned either oxygen or hydrogen or both into Carbon... congratulations you're an alchemist.

Ah yes...looking shit up before admitting that I'm too stupid to look shit up before I whine...


...which is to say that I just got back from the manufacturers page which explained the problem (my outish of date version of OS X) and I fixed it.

If the thread serves any more purpose I guess it would be for IT guys to come complain about dumbasses like myself.

So does this mean I can laugh incoherantly at you over and over again? ;)

I'm tempted to say "buy a pc" but I'm not gonna go down to that level :)

especially since that's a particularly bad way to avoid problems with just plugging stuff in and having it work

So does this mean I can laugh incoherantly at you over and over again? ;)
Can't see how I can stop you. Pretty much deserve it.


Soon, soon I will have space on my internal drive again!

On a side note, your updating problems should now be solved for a sufficient time span since the more recent versions of OS X update themelves.

Long live Mac!

especially since that's a particularly bad way to avoid problems with just plugging stuff in and having it work

Ah, so true. But there are also alot more fools like myself who dabble with PC's and can come up with makeshift solutions ;) But I have to admit, I want a macbook pro! They're so glossy! (though I would probably just sit and stare at it all day, gettning no work done out of fear for leaving scratches and fingerprints on that adorable surfacework)

Expensive paperweights, macs.

Yeah...

But when I Hear about people having issues on a Mac....I always think of THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOEKBC1JPz4).

Ah yes...looking shit up before admitting that I'm too stupid to look shit up before I whine...


...which is to say that I just got back from the manufacturers page which explained the problem (my outish of date version of OS X) and I fixed it.

If the thread serves any more purpose I guess it would be for IT guys to come complain about dumbasses like myself.

Heh or as we like to say RTFM!

H2O + O2 -> H2O + CO2 + Energy

Well you've just turned either oxygen or hydrogen or both into Carbon... congratulations you're an alchemist.
For the win.

I just bought a hard drive for my Mac, and it has firewire, but my computer doesn't seem to acknowledge that there is a hard drive there at all. I plugged my other one in with the same cable and it shows up fine. The instructions say I don't need the startup disk, is that a lie? A dirty dirty lie? Or did I buy a borked hard drive? If so, is crying appropriate?

How old is your Mac? If it is a little older and the hard drive is brand new you might need to use the disk that came with it.

Yeah...

But when I Hear about people having issues on a Mac....I always think of THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOEKBC1JPz4).

That is the biggest load of crap I have ever seen.

That is the biggest load of truthiness I have ever seen.

Fixed. Check and Mate.

Fixed. Check and Mate.

All from people who never use a Mac.

Is this a Firewire 400 or 800 device? You might be plugging a Firewire 800 device to a 400 port.

All from people who never use a Mac.

The age-old argument: PC vs. Mac

To tell you the truth, there is no point in comparing the two. They both do the same things. They pretty much both have an equal number of annoying flaws. It just depends on which one you end up using first, which one you are more comfortable with.

In my experience, if you learn on a Mac first, you can learn a PC quite quickly.
If you're brought up on a PC, it is more frustrating to learn to use a Mac. That's pretty much the only thing that's is really different about them. It's just the interface.

I have used both Mac's and PC's in my lifetime, and I have infuriated with both of them at one point or another. Those stupid PC vs. Mac ads are simply puerile. And so is the whole argument. If you're comfortable with a PC, use a PC. If you're comfortable with a Mac, use a Mac.

At some point or other, they are both going to start acting shit, and they are both equally hopeless.

I did find that guy's rant very funny though.

The age-old argument: PC vs. Mac

To tell you the truth, there is no point in comparing the two. They both do the same things. They pretty much both have an equal number of annoying flaws. It just depends on which one you end up using first, which one you are more comfortable with.

In my experience, if you learn on a Mac first, you can learn a PC quite quickly.
If you're brought up on a PC, it is more frustrating to learn to use a Mac. That's pretty much the only thing that's is really different about them. It's just the interface.

I have used both Mac's and PC's in my lifetime, and I have infuriated with both of them at one point or another. Those stupid PC vs. Mac ads are simply puerile. And so is the whole argument. If you're comfortable with a PC, use a PC. If you're comfortable with a Mac, use a Mac.

At some point or other, they are both going to start acting shit, and they are both equally hopeless.

I did find that guy's rant very funny though.

Its just funny that everybody uses the same argument for both sides: the programs just crash (mac and pc). Hard and clunky to use (mac and pc). But why do we have an entire IT department to keep the pc's running at my office and one guy who keeps our macs running?

But why do we have an entire IT department to keep the pc's running at my office and one guy who keeps our macs running?

Why do you?

Its just funny that everybody uses the same argument for both sides: the programs just crash (mac and pc). Hard and clunky to use (mac and pc). But why do we have an entire IT department to keep the pc's running at my office and one guy who keeps our macs running?

My guess is the Macs are just workstations - the IT department probably runs PC-based servers too.

Why do you?

I have no idea, but they always are having problems. Everybody has their Mac vs PC argument. I can only speak from my own experience. I'm a graphic designer and I will admit my Mac screws up from time to time, but the people that use the PC's are doing order and data entry and have problems all the time. Only doing maybe a third of the processes that I'm doing.

My guess is the Macs are just workstations - the IT department probably runs PC-based servers too.

We have 2 network specialists who run PC and UNIX based servers and 5 computer specialists and 1 intern for the PC workstations.

The age-old argument: PC vs. Mac

To tell you the truth, there is no point in comparing the two. They both do the same things. They pretty much both have an equal number of annoying flaws. It just depends on which one you end up using first, which one you are more comfortable with.

In my experience, if you learn on a Mac first, you can learn a PC quite quickly.
If you're brought up on a PC, it is more frustrating to learn to use a Mac. That's pretty much the only thing that's is really different about them. It's just the interface.

I have used both Mac's and PC's in my lifetime, and I have infuriated with both of them at one point or another. Those stupid PC vs. Mac ads are simply puerile. And so is the whole argument. If you're comfortable with a PC, use a PC. If you're comfortable with a Mac, use a Mac.

At some point or other, they are both going to start acting shit, and they are both equally hopeless.

I did find that guy's rant very funny though.

I agree, the rant was also very funny, but not as funny as the depth of feeling that a simple Mac vs PC debate stirs up. I have never seen the like, not in McDonalds vs Buger King, not in Bike vs Car, I dunno why it happens, but endless cheap fun can be had.

Its just funny that everybody uses the same argument for both sides: the programs just crash (mac and pc). Hard and clunky to use (mac and pc). But why do we have an entire IT department to keep the pc's running at my office and one guy who keeps our macs running?

Umm perhaps because IT depts are there to look after all IT, not just enduser computing needs, but networks, cabling, backup, antivirus, email, I could go on.....

I just bought a hard drive for my Mac, and it has firewire, but my computer doesn't seem to acknowledge that there is a hard drive there at all. I plugged my other one in with the same cable and it shows up fine. The instructions say I don't need the startup disk, is that a lie? A dirty dirty lie? Or did I buy a borked hard drive? If so, is crying appropriate?

Why doesn't water burn?

They should make this into one of those mac ads.

"Hi, I'm a mac." "And I'm a PC... Um, Mac?" "Yeah PC?" "You seem to have something hanging off of you." "Nah." "Yea, see.. it's right on your left arm. It's big, and plastic." "Nope. Not there." "Oh.. ok."

I like this spoof Mac vs. PC ad a lot:

http://tv.truenuff.com/mac/gaming.php

Poor Linux...

Not to weigh in on the Mac/PC stroking, but the page for fixing my problem was much easier and smaller than the one for fixing it on a PC. I just had to erase the disk and there it was. Apparently the Mac knew it was there the whole time, just didn't think it was a good idea for me to use it just yet.

But now, FINALLY, almost two years after graduating, and three years after that degree, I finally finally finally have my college documentary off my main hard drive. 60 gigs of free space all of a sudden like. Since I've been operating on less than 250 MB if feel light and airy now.

But now, FINALLY, almost two years after graduating, and three years after that degree, I finally finally finally have my college documentary off my main hard drive. 60 gigs of free space all of a sudden like. Since I've been operating on less than 250 MB if feel light and airy now.

:eek: That wouldn't fit on either of my hdds

I have an old computer so my internal is only 30GB (no real stuff... full of equally old games). And all my music, videos, small games are on my 60GB portable.

:eek: That wouldn't fit on either of my hdds

I have an old computer so my internal is only 30GB (no real stuff... full of equally old games). And all my music, videos, small games are on my 60GB portable.

I have a 60g external from my college days, but it too is loaded up with everything else I did in college. And even then some stuff is missing.

The new drive is 250. Now I can actually work on new things! Yay me. Will I? Remains to be seen...

I agree, the rant was also very funny, but not as funny as the depth of feeling that a simple Mac vs PC debate stirs up. I have never seen the like, not in McDonalds vs Buger King, not in Bike vs Car, I dunno why it happens, but endless cheap fun can be had.

wasn't coke versus pepsi a big debate for a while?

wasn't coke versus pepsi a big debate for a while?

Perhaps but did it generate such hatered for the over side. I mean coke or pepsi whatevers in the shop right?

Perhaps but did it generate such hatered for the over side. I mean coke or pepsi whatevers in the shop right?

Ugh, no! Pepsi smells like Simple Green and tastes nasty, soda shouldn't be that sweet. Pepsi is nasty, if that's all the shop has I'll drink water...(well, these days I drink water because I gave up soda, but when I dug soda that didn't mean Pepsi...)