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How would you like to have better sex?

Soviestan
25-04-2007, 02:22
I have the tv on in the background and this is how the commerical starts out. So, do you find these ED, male enhancement, condom, etc. commericals inapporiate or at least distasteful? Or is it just me? A commerical like this wouldn't have been on the air 40 or even 20 years ago. What direction are we heading in?
Curious Inquiry
25-04-2007, 02:23
Pole please ;)
Infinite Revolution
25-04-2007, 02:25
last condom/sex aid advert i saw was rather amusing actually. i think it was durex.

as for the thread title, if sex could magicly be made less icky and more frequent then it would be better for me.

oh, and ED and penile enhancement stuff doesn't get advertised on tv over here. probably because the first is a prescription medicine and the second is quack medicine.
Ilie
25-04-2007, 02:25
I was reading one of Dave Barry's old books and he actually made a joke to the effect that one day there might even be condom commercials on TV! (As a slippery slope from the tampon commercials.) Sad, huh?
Chandelier
25-04-2007, 02:26
I usually just ignore them completely.
Kbrookistan
25-04-2007, 02:28
I hate, hate, hate those damn commercials with that smiling guy for that 'natural male enhancement' thing. Can't remember the name. The rest doesn't bother me, altho the priapisim warnings in the ED ads make me giggle. Yes, I'm immature. Leave me alone.
Ashmoria
25-04-2007, 02:49
the male enhancement ads border on brilliant.

in the guise of being coy about using the naughty details, it manages to promise the user NOTHING. it doesnt tell you what it does because it does nothing to you.

and yet its not a lie

brilliant.
Greill
25-04-2007, 02:57
Those ads really disgust me and I hate seeing them. I'm a libertarian, and think that people are within their rights to buy condoms and those pills, but I think that those ads are a signal that so many people have devolved into these present-oriented, base creatures only interested in seeking animal pleasure.
Mikesburg
25-04-2007, 02:59
I don't know, the 'better sex' ads kind of blend into the background for me now. I don't even think about all the sex paraphernalia I'm buying anymore. Okay not really.

But I've always found 'better sex' has more to do with the people than the product.
Siap
25-04-2007, 03:02
IWhat direction are we heading in?

People are learning what their bodies are for. Its called change.
German Nightmare
25-04-2007, 03:02
I was reading one of Dave Barry's old books and he actually made a joke to the effect that one day there might even be condom commercials on TV! (As a slippery slope from the tampon commercials.) Sad, huh?
No Way! ;):p:D

Anyway, the answer is to have it.
Ashmoria
25-04-2007, 03:03
Those ads really disgust me and I hate seeing them. I'm a libertarian, and think that people are within their rights to buy condoms and those pills, but I think that those ads are a signal that so many people have devolved into these present-oriented, base creatures only interested in seeking animal pleasure.

you mean you think the desire to have better sex is a bad thing?
Vetalia
25-04-2007, 03:04
I hate, hate, hate those damn commercials with that smiling guy for that 'natural male enhancement' thing. Can't remember the name. The rest doesn't bother me, altho the priapisim warnings in the ED ads make me giggle. Yes, I'm immature. Leave me alone.

Maybe it's because the guy looks like a sexual predator. I'd be terrified if I saw some guy at the pool smiling and swimsuitless with a giant erection.
Greill
25-04-2007, 03:09
you mean you think the desire to have better sex is a bad thing?

If you're completely fixated on it as so many are, yes. No matter how good your sex is, it is ephemeral in the grand scheme of things. To focus on it utterly is to consign oneself to meaninglessness.
Curious Inquiry
25-04-2007, 03:11
If you're completely fixated on it as so many are, yes. No matter how good your sex is, it is ephemeral in the grand scheme of things. To focus on it utterly is to consign oneself to meaninglessness.

I beg to differ. There is no more transcendental experience than orgasm.
Zilam
25-04-2007, 03:12
I hate, hate, hate those damn commercials with that smiling guy for that 'natural male enhancement' thing. Can't remember the name. The rest doesn't bother me, altho the priapisim warnings in the ED ads make me giggle. Yes, I'm immature. Leave me alone.
http://tommcmahon.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/johnroberts.jpg
Sane Outcasts
25-04-2007, 03:14
I hate, hate, hate those damn commercials with that smiling guy for that 'natural male enhancement' thing. Can't remember the name. The rest doesn't bother me, altho the priapisim warnings in the ED ads make me giggle. Yes, I'm immature. Leave me alone.

Those bother me, but not as much as the Axe spray commercials. Some guy sprays this stuff on him and every girl in the area jumps him. What really make that whole thing stick in my mind is that the only person I knew who wore that crap was gay. Somehow, I doubt he used it so girls would dogpile him.
Vetalia
25-04-2007, 03:16
Those bother me, but not as much as the Axe spray commercials. Some guy sprays this stuff on him and every girl in the area jumps him. What really make that whole thing stick in my mind is that the only person I knew who wore that crap was gay. Somehow, I doubt he used it so girls would dogpile him.

Well, it doesn't help that a good 75% of people wear too much of it...
Greill
25-04-2007, 03:18
I beg to differ. There is no more transcendental experience than orgasm.

Then why not tie yourself up to a machine that just stimulates the pleasure centers of your brain?
Kbrookistan
25-04-2007, 03:18
Maybe it's because the guy looks like a sexual predator. I'd be terrified if I saw some guy at the pool smiling and swimsuitless with a giant erection.

You and me both. That smile just creeps me out. And he never talks. Yuck.
Marrakech II
25-04-2007, 03:20
Yeah those commercials are distasteful. When I was a kid they did not even have tampon commercials. It was considered taboo at the time.
Dakini
25-04-2007, 03:24
I have the tv on in the background and this is how the commerical starts out. So, do you find these ED, male enhancement, condom, etc. commericals inapporiate or at least distasteful? Or is it just me? A commerical like this wouldn't have been on the air 40 or even 20 years ago. What direction are we heading in?
A direction that encourages honesty?
Dakini
25-04-2007, 03:30
I have the tv on in the background and this is how the commerical starts out. So, do you find these ED, male enhancement, condom, etc. commericals inapporiate or at least distasteful? Or is it just me? A commerical like this wouldn't have been on the air 40 or even 20 years ago. What direction are we heading in?
A direction that encourages honesty?
Vetalia
25-04-2007, 03:31
Then why not tie yourself up to a machine that just stimulates the pleasure centers of your brain?

I'm pretty sure there are people already working on it.
Greill
25-04-2007, 03:35
I'm pretty sure there are people already working on it.

Maybe one day we'll be living in little pleasure cocoons, hooked up and drooling for the rest of our existences.
Smunkeeville
25-04-2007, 03:37
commercials for prescription drugs annoy me anyway, but the ones for things I might not want to explain to my kids in front of company annoy me more

"how long is an erection supposed to last mom?"

"what is herpes? what are safer sex practices?"

"what is a prostate? what happens when it's enlarged?"

:rolleyes:
Cookavich
25-04-2007, 03:57
"I have genital herpes, but my partner doesn't. And we want to keep it that way."
Curious Inquiry
25-04-2007, 03:58
Then why not tie yourself up to a machine that just stimulates the pleasure centers of your brain?

Why do you think I'm on the internet?
Neo Undelia
25-04-2007, 04:26
If you're completely fixated on it as so many are, yes. No matter how good your sex is, it is ephemeral in the grand scheme of things. To focus on it utterly is to consign oneself to meaninglessness.

You have to understand, Greill, that for most people, sex really is one of the most joyous things they will experience, along with being drunk and/or high. You see, most people think that the key to happiness is a rapid succession of peek experiences that stem primarily from material fulfillment. They fail to realize that true and lasting happiness can only be found in subtle contentment.

This is why your radical libertarianism fails. You expect far too much of people who simply are effectively incapable of empathy, reason or enlightenment.

About the commercials: Stop being a prude, Soviestan.
Ashmoria
25-04-2007, 04:37
If you're completely fixated on it as so many are, yes. No matter how good your sex is, it is ephemeral in the grand scheme of things. To focus on it utterly is to consign oneself to meaninglessness.

there is a large middle ground between the guy who couldnt care less if his sexual experiences are good or not and the guy whose life revolves around his next sexual encounter

i dont have a problem with the idea that a man might want to do something to improve his sex life. i only have a problem with companies that take advantage of desperate men by selling them expensive products that dont do anything.
Vetalia
25-04-2007, 04:39
Maybe one day we'll be living in little pleasure cocoons, hooked up and drooling for the rest of our existences.

Some people will. Others, of course, will profit from it. There's money to be made in pleasure.
Kbrookistan
25-04-2007, 04:45
Those bother me, but not as much as the Axe spray commercials. Some guy sprays this stuff on him and every girl in the area jumps him. What really make that whole thing stick in my mind is that the only person I knew who wore that crap was gay. Somehow, I doubt he used it so girls would dogpile him.

Because women are all so pathetic that we're panting for any man who smells like Axe. :rolleyes: That stuff smells like... Well, it doesn't smell like anything that would make me want to have sex with anyone, up to and including my husband, and I adore him. I'm not allergic or anything, but too much of any cologne makes me sick to my stomach.
Greill
25-04-2007, 04:49
there is a large middle ground between the guy who couldnt care less if his sexual experiences are good or not and the guy whose life revolves around his next sexual encounter

i dont have a problem with the idea that a man might want to do something to improve his sex life. i only have a problem with companies that take advantage of desperate men by selling them expensive products that dont do anything.

But I really hate being bombarded with these commercials, and I think they reflect the attitudes of so many people. Do I really need to regularly reminded about how happy Bob is?

You have to understand, Greill, that for most people, sex really is one of the most joyous things they will experience, along with being drunk and/or high. You see, most people think that the key to happiness is a rapid succession of peek experiences that stem primarily from material fulfillment. They fail to realize that true and lasting happiness can only be found in subtle contentment.

This is why your radical libertarianism fails. You expect far too much of people who simply are effectively incapable of empathy, reason or enlightenment.

It's not my radical libertarianism speaking in this instance. My radical libertarianism says that you can consume condoms and ED pills if you want. It expects nothing more of people than to follow the rules, and since the common man is more interested in American Idol than why he should follow this specific set of rules it works fine. But my hylopomorphism, which makes me look down upon this crudely hedonistic lifestyle, says that there are better things to achieve than nice condoms or better erections. The crowd without empathy, reason or enlightenment can stick to the libertarianism, but those with can look to the hylopomorphism.

Why do you think I'm on the internet?

Ah. You have trounced my rhetorical question most mightily.
Poliwanacraca
25-04-2007, 04:51
I find most of the ED-drug commercials rather annoying, but then, I find most commercials rather annoying. The ED ones just often happen to be particularly idiotic, largely because of their frequent use of transparent verbal or visual euphemisms. I would honestly be less annoyed by these commercials if they just said something to the effect of "Are you an old dude with a floppy penis? Our drug can help!" rather than coming up with nonsense about being "ready when the moment is right" or demonstrating that, after trying Viagra/Cialis/whatever, the guy can throw his football through a tire. (Get it? Ha ha! Ew.)
Neo Undelia
25-04-2007, 04:56
there is a large middle ground between the guy who couldnt care less if his sexual experiences are good or not and the guy whose life revolves around his next sexual encounter
Perhaps, but I'd much rather prefer to hang out with the former rather than the latter.
It's not my radical libertarianism speaking in this instance. My radical libertarianism says that you can consume condoms and ED pills if you want. It expects nothing more of people than to follow the rules, and since the common man is more interested in American Idol than why he should follow this specific set of rules it works fine. But my hylopomorphism, which makes me look down upon this crudely hedonistic lifestyle, says that there are better things to achieve than nice condoms or better erections. The crowd without empathy, reason or enlightenment can stick to the libertarianism, but those with can look to the hylopomorphism.
You shouldn't be too harsh on them, though. I mean. faulting their hedonism is like faulting a dog for not speaking.
Ashmoria
25-04-2007, 04:57
But I really hate being bombarded with these commercials, and I think they reflect the attitudes of so many people. Do I really need to regularly reminded about how happy Bob is?


i hate them too. even more so now that i understand that they arent being coy, they are pretending to be coy so that you dont notice that their product doesnt tell you what it is supposed to do for you. so they can never be called liars eh?

not unlike the "head on" ads that tell you to apply it directly to the forehead but dont say WHY.
Kbrookistan
25-04-2007, 05:09
not unlike the "head on" ads that tell you to apply it directly to the forehead but dont say WHY.

Those damned ads insured that I would never buy their product, even if it were the only thing that would make my head hurt less.
Greill
25-04-2007, 05:47
You shouldn't be too harsh on them, though. I mean. faulting their hedonism is like faulting a dog for not speaking.

Doesn't mean I have to like it. But I'd never question their right to be able to live their lives that way.

i hate them too. even more so now that i understand that they arent being coy, they are pretending to be coy so that you dont notice that their product doesnt tell you what it is supposed to do for you. so they can never be called liars eh?

Yeah, it is pretty annoying. Though I'm not sure it would be better to know specifically what their product does, if you catch my drift.
Greater Trostia
25-04-2007, 06:12
Sex is overrated, disgusting, dangerous and cliched. I hate it.

Advertising it even more so.
UnHoly Smite
25-04-2007, 06:43
I have the tv on in the background and this is how the commerical starts out. So, do you find these ED, male enhancement, condom, etc. commericals inapporiate or at least distasteful? Or is it just me? A commerical like this wouldn't have been on the air 40 or even 20 years ago. What direction are we heading in?


Round the bowl and down the hole, thats where.
Dryks Legacy
25-04-2007, 06:43
People have devolved into these present-oriented, base creatures only interested in seeking animal pleasure.

The only thing that kept us in line in the old times was the fear of god... now that that's gone there's nothing to stop us.

I hate the advertising too... it needs to be more subtle... like this (http://www.keyscorner.com/archives/Manix.jpg)
Nationalian
25-04-2007, 06:45
How would you like to have better sex?


Beginning to have it would be a giant step to better sex for me.
Texoma Land
25-04-2007, 06:46
No matter how good your sex is, it is ephemeral in the grand scheme of things. To focus on it utterly is to consign oneself to meaninglessness.

In the grand scheme of things, all that we puny humans do is ephemeral and meaningless. Why pretend one form of pointless activity (be it physical or mental) is somehow superior to another?
UnHoly Smite
25-04-2007, 06:54
Those ads really disgust me and I hate seeing them. I'm a libertarian, and think that people are within their rights to buy condoms and those pills, but I think that those ads are a signal that so many people have devolved into these present-oriented, base creatures only interested in seeking animal pleasure.


That has earned the No Shit Award of the decade. Is this a shock? We have been going down that road for over 40+ years now. I don't like it, but I am not in any postion to do anything about it. So all I can do is not take part in it.
UnHoly Smite
25-04-2007, 06:55
If you're completely fixated on it as so many are, yes. No matter how good your sex is, it is ephemeral in the grand scheme of things. To focus on it utterly is to consign oneself to meaninglessness.


Are you saying caring about sex is meaningless?
Cameroi
25-04-2007, 10:14
how would i like to have better sex? by living in a world where everyone was nondestructable, looked like they were 12 years old, pregnancy was voluntary and sexualy transmitted diseases didn't exist. also one that didn't demonize everything that doesn't kiss the ass of little green pieces of paper.

THEN sex would be great and a hell of a lot more interesting to me then it is in this one, at my age, and at this time.

=^^=
.../\...
Ifreann
25-04-2007, 10:20
So condoms and natural male enhancement will allow me to have better sex?


Interesting. Would that mean actually having sex?
UN Protectorates
25-04-2007, 10:28
how would i like to have better sex? by living in a world where everyone was nondestructable, looked like they were 12 years old, pregnancy was voluntary and sexualy transmitted diseases didn't exist.

=^^=
.../\...

12 years old?


...



Er... I hope you have some good explanation.
Vetalia
25-04-2007, 10:31
12 years old?

Er... I hope you have some good explanation.

Lets hope it was a typo, oh God I hope, it was a typo.

But I wouldn't mind being an indestructible 21 year old. I'd rather be around 25-30 or so for the next million years, but 21 would be fine too.
UnHoly Smite
25-04-2007, 10:33
12 years old?


...



Er... I hope you have some good explanation.


I am not sure you can explain that.:eek:
Curious Inquiry
25-04-2007, 12:38
But my hylopomorphism. . .

I'm pretty sure the same companies are working on a pill to help with this. Can't wait to see Bob's smile then!
Bottle
25-04-2007, 12:40
I have the tv on in the background and this is how the commerical starts out. So, do you find these ED, male enhancement, condom, etc. commericals inapporiate or at least distasteful? Or is it just me? A commerical like this wouldn't have been on the air 40 or even 20 years ago. What direction are we heading in?
You can rest happily knowing that not a single one of those "natural male enhancement" treatments actually does a damn thing.
Sandkasten
25-04-2007, 13:40
I beg to differ. There is no more transcendental experience than orgasm.

Well, a multiple orgasm. Otherwise I agree.
The Whitemane Gryphons
25-04-2007, 13:44
They're like any commercial to me. Good when they're funny, annoying when they're not.

What I really hate is that stupid drunk driving commercial with the screaming, crying baby. I mean, god, that is the most irritating sound I've ever heard. It just makes me wish the baby got creamed with the parents.
The Mindset
25-04-2007, 13:53
Those ads really disgust me and I hate seeing them. I'm a libertarian, and think that people are within their rights to buy condoms and those pills, but I think that those ads are a signal that so many people have devolved into these present-oriented, base creatures only interested in seeking animal pleasure.

I laugh because you've assumed humans aren't animals. We are.
Bottle
25-04-2007, 14:00
Those bother me, but not as much as the Axe spray commercials. Some guy sprays this stuff on him and every girl in the area jumps him. What really make that whole thing stick in my mind is that the only person I knew who wore that crap was gay. Somehow, I doubt he used it so girls would dogpile him.
You know what's awesome, though?

Bodman commercials. Wicked hot dudes, rippling with muscle, usually wet (sweat, water, unclear). Yum.

Whenever the pathetic Axe commercials show their pathetic, ugly hero supposedly being mobbed by hot girls, I just inform them (through the TV): "Bodman is getting laid, and you're not."

And you know what? It's true.
Ifreann
25-04-2007, 14:01
You actually inform Axe? You write them a letter or something?

:p
Bottle
25-04-2007, 14:02
Those ads really disgust me and I hate seeing them. I'm a libertarian, and think that people are within their rights to buy condoms and those pills, but I think that those ads are a signal that so many people have devolved into these present-oriented, base creatures only interested in seeking animal pleasure.
Yeah, humans have "devolved" into pleasure-seeking organisms.

Oh. Wait. That's backwards. Human beings evolved specifically to be pleasure-seeking organisms. Indeed, pleasure itself is a reflection of our built-in drives to seek out certain environments and stimuli. Half of the human population has evolved an organ that exists for no purpose other than physical pleasure.

Hm.
Mirkai
25-04-2007, 14:03
You know what's awesome, though?

Bodman commercials. Wicked hot dudes, rippling with muscle, usually wet (sweat, water, unclear). Yum.

Whenever the pathetic Axe commercials show their pathetic, ugly hero supposedly being mobbed by hot girls, I just inform them (through the TV): "Bodman is getting laid, and you're not."

And you know what? It's true.

That reminds me of a commercial I do really like.. It's that Fido one (the phone company) where the guy is on the couch with the chick.. Then on the couch with another chick.. then he's on the couch snuggling with the guy (while the narrator says 'life changes'.)

It's just so cute.. And it was refreshing to see them portrayed in a realistic affectionate, snuggly way, instead of doing that face-eating thing that people inexplicably associate with two guys kissing (see Brokeback Mountain).
Bottle
25-04-2007, 14:03
You actually inform Axe? You write them a letter or something?

:p
Note the parentheses: "(through the TV)"

Yes, I talk to my television. No, I am not ashamed to admit it. Yes, my lover finds it slightly alarming when my conversations with the TV exceed 10 minutes in duration.
Ifreann
25-04-2007, 14:05
Note the parentheses: "(through the TV)"

Yes, I talk to my television. No, I am not ashamed to admit it. Yes, my lover finds it slightly alarming when my conversations with the TV exceed 10 minutes in duration.

*totally didn't notice that*

I do that a bit, but not for 10 minutes at a time......
The Nazz
25-04-2007, 14:05
Note the parentheses: "(through the TV)"

Yes, I talk to my television. No, I am not ashamed to admit it. Yes, my lover finds it slightly alarming when my conversations with the TV exceed 10 minutes in duration.

The great thing about Tivo is that you can pause the show/ad/whatever and continue to rant at it for a while if you wish. They can't just leave and get away from you. ;)
Bottle
25-04-2007, 14:21
The great thing about Tivo is that you can pause the show/ad/whatever and continue to rant at it for a while if you wish. They can't just leave and get away from you. ;)
Diabolical!


I do that a bit, but not for 10 minutes at a time......

One time I was reading the paper over breakfast and I started getting really pissed off about something in the news. It is not satisfying to yell at the paper, so I started trying to argue with my lover. Problem was, he agreed with me, so instead of responding to me he simply got up and turned on the TV.

He turned on Battlestar Galactica because he knows that I love to yell at shows that depict space-fighter battles with sound effects. SPACE IS A VACUUM!!! I scream. THERE IS NO "WHOOSH WHOOSH" SPEED NOISE IN SPACE!!!

Ahhh. All better.
Nobel Hobos
25-04-2007, 14:48
...

Ahhh. All better.

We don't all have a Private Brain-Care Specialist. Let alone one who doubles as a lover.
Nobel Hobos
25-04-2007, 15:07
Yeah, humans have "devolved" into pleasure-seeking organisms.

Oh. Wait. That's backwards. Human beings evolved specifically to be pleasure-seeking organisms. Indeed, pleasure itself is a reflection of our built-in drives to seek out certain environments and stimuli. Half of the human population has evolved an organ that exists for no purpose other than physical pleasure.

Hm.

I object!
Unless I have your meaning entirely inverted, the organ you refer to is also useful for pissing directly on things, thereby marking them as the organ-owners territory.
Bottle
25-04-2007, 15:14
I object!
Unless I have your meaning entirely inverted, the organ you refer to is also useful for pissing directly on things, thereby marking them as the organ-owners territory.
The half of the population I was referring to was the half that possess a clitoris. To the best of my knowledge, it is not normally possible to piss using one's clitoris. But I've seen a woman who could launch a banana 15 feet without using her hands, so anything's possible.
Nobel Hobos
25-04-2007, 15:16
And on the point previously, a dear friend (read: dead) once suggested a device like a light gun, which you could plug into a standard TV. It would allow you to point a plastic pretend gun at anyone you saw on TV, and shoot them dead. Thereafter, that person would never be heard nor seen on your TV again.

I believe we now have the technology, and I want one.
Gift-of-god
25-04-2007, 15:31
I have the tv on in the background and this is how the commerical starts out. So, do you find these ED, male enhancement, condom, etc. commericals inapporiate or at least distasteful? Or is it just me? A commerical like this wouldn't have been on the air 40 or even 20 years ago. What direction are we heading in?

On my TV, there is this big button on the corner of it. It has the word POWER over it. I very rarely press that button as it turns the TV on. But I do find it useful when I find the TV on (which is also very rare, thankfully), as I can use it to turn the TV off. Life without commercials is only one off switch away.

As for the better sex, you would probably have more luck with Bottle's fruit catapult friend than with something the TV is trying to sell you.
Nobel Hobos
25-04-2007, 15:36
The half of the population I was referring to was the half that possess a clitoris. To the best of my knowledge, it is not normally possible to piss using one's clitoris. But I've seen a woman who could launch a banana 15 feet without using her hands, so anything's possible.

Dang. I walked right into that, didn't I? :)
Skibereen
25-04-2007, 16:00
I have the tv on in the background and this is how the commerical starts out. So, do you find these ED, male enhancement, condom, etc. commericals inapporiate or at least distasteful? Or is it just me? A commerical like this wouldn't have been on the air 40 or even 20 years ago. What direction are we heading in?

My answer only applies if you live in America.

I disgusted myself one dayu having my daughters cover their eyes during a sex seen...not a particularly grpahic one either...but then allowed them to watch the 30 some odd people be slaughtered in the movie we were watching.


Here in the states we place far too much tabboo on sex, and things related to sex...and no tabboo on violence.

As a matter of fact if we attach violence to the sex it becomes more acceptable because then we can claim it is teaching a lesson about the dangers of sex.

I hope we are shedding the puritanical ideas about open sexuality even if we cant get over our fetish for brutality.
Nobel Hobos
25-04-2007, 16:05
Here's to Elvis Presley, who owned a gun and found something positive to do with it.
Didn't shoot defenceless animals with it.
Didn't shoot fellow humans with it.
Didn't shoot himself with it.
Shot a television set, 'cos he didn't like what he was seeing.

WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY!
I so want to shoot people I see on TV. Where's the harm in that?
Andaluciae
25-04-2007, 16:13
I can deal...although when really old people are the central focus of the commercials...well...that's just over the line.
Nobel Hobos
25-04-2007, 16:22
I can deal...although when really old people are the central focus of the commercials...well...that's just over the line.

The line? What line?

EDIT: I almost agree with you, btw. I just want you to draw a line instead of just referring to it.
Jello Biafra
25-04-2007, 17:28
I agree with the 'they're annoying, because most commercials are annoying' crowd.
Forsakia
25-04-2007, 17:51
preferably through large amounts of pracitce;)
THE LOST PLANET
25-04-2007, 17:51
I can deal...although when really old people are the central focus of the commercials...well...that's just over the line.
As someone who consistantly has to check the oldest option in the recurring 'age of NSers' polls, I'd like to know just what you mean by 'really old people'...
Nobel Hobos
25-04-2007, 18:09
I can deal...although when really old people are the central focus of the commercials...well...that's just over the line.

Don't you think that's the target, the main market of 'anti-impotency' drugs -- old fellas who want to please their lady but can't get it up?

It's like selling candy to kids. Of course you advertise candy during the cartoons. It's marketing 101.

Commercials are media prostitution. The media sells the attention it has earned by showing us stuff we want to see and hear, to other parties who want us to see and hear stuff they have paid for. Prostitution of vision and audition.

Free love cures prostitution. And free media will cure advertising.

You know what? :) We're getting over it. Even the kids who've never seen a "commercial" before can tell bullshit when it hits them in the eye. Argue with me, do please, I argue so nicely.
Nobel Hobos
25-04-2007, 19:08
Or not.
*commits suicide again*
THE LOST PLANET
25-04-2007, 20:21
On my TV, there is this big button on the corner of it. It has the word POWER over it. I very rarely press that button as it turns the TV on. But I do find it useful when I find the TV on (which is also very rare, thankfully), as I can use it to turn the TV off. Life without commercials is only one off switch away.QFT. I used this very arguement just last night when I recieved a solicitation call from the Dove Foundation. The woman on the other end said something along the lines of 'don't you want some way to make sure your children are protected from offensive and inappropriate messages..', I interupted her and told her there already was a way to protect my children from such, it's called the power button on my TV. I then thanked her for calling and hung up. :)
Soviestan
25-04-2007, 20:24
My answer only applies if you live in America.

I disgusted myself one dayu having my daughters cover their eyes during a sex seen...not a particularly grpahic one either...but then allowed them to watch the 30 some odd people be slaughtered in the movie we were watching.


Here in the states we place far too much tabboo on sex, and things related to sex...and no tabboo on violence.

As a matter of fact if we attach violence to the sex it becomes more acceptable because then we can claim it is teaching a lesson about the dangers of sex.

I hope we are shedding the puritanical ideas about open sexuality even if we cant get over our fetish for brutality.

I've never really understood this POV that violence is somehow as bad as sex. To me there no should be no taboo on violence. Its a part of daily life in many parts of the world.
Gift-of-god
25-04-2007, 20:28
QFT. I used this very arguement just last night when I recieved a solicitation call from the Dove Foundation. The woman on the other end said something along the lines of 'don't you want some way to make sure your children are protected from offensive and inappropriate messages..', I interupted her and told her there already was a way to protect my children from such, it's called the power button on my TV. I then thanked her for calling and hung up. :)

It's pretty cool that they have a similar button on the phone too, so that you can hang up on people like that.
Ashmoria
25-04-2007, 20:28
QFT. I used this very arguement just last night when I recieved a solicitation call from the Dove Foundation. The woman on the other end said something along the lines of 'don't you want some way to make sure your children are protected from offensive and inappropriate messages..', I interupted her and told her there already was a way to protect my children from such, it's called the power button on my TV. I then thanked her for calling and hung up. :)

you were so moderate!

how dare a soap company marketing tool call you up and suggest that THEY can protect your children from bad advertising better than you can?
Ashmoria
25-04-2007, 20:30
I don't need a prescription... I use Maxoderm

isnt the maxoderm ad the one where the older gentleman is obviously visiting a brothel and picking out his favorite girl to take somewhere more private?
Sumamba Buwhan
25-04-2007, 20:31
I don't need a prescription... I use Maxoderm
Sumamba Buwhan
25-04-2007, 20:33
I've never really understood this POV that violence is somehow as bad as sex. To me there no should be no taboo on violence. Its a part of daily life in many parts of the world.


WTF!!!!!

Erm, are you suggesting that sex is not a part of daily life in many, if not most or all parts of the world?
THE LOST PLANET
25-04-2007, 20:34
I've never really understood this POV that violence is somehow as bad as sex. To me there no should be no taboo on violence. Its a part of daily life in many parts of the world.:confused: WTF? So sex is bad, far worse than violence? And somehow sex isn't a part of daily life in virtually all parts of the world?

I myself will never understand your POV. That something as detrimental to human life and development like violence is OK, but something as natural and necessary to human existence as sex is somehow evil. :(
Sumamba Buwhan
25-04-2007, 20:35
isnt the maxoderm ad the one where the older gentleman is obviously visiting a brothel and picking out his favorite girl to take somewhere more private?

No I haven't seen that one! It's just at a bar or club or something and the girl is bragging about how her man has to use the stuff, and that it isn't a prescription
Ashmoria
25-04-2007, 20:37
No I haven't seen that one! It's just at a bar or club or something and the girl is bragging about how her man has to use the stuff, and that it isn't a prescription

thats the one. take a good look at it next time. its a room full of women, much younger than our hero. he gives one woman a nod and she leaves with him.

its a brothel.
Gift-of-god
25-04-2007, 20:39
I've never really understood this POV that violence is somehow as bad as sex. To me there no should be no taboo on violence. Its a part of daily life in many parts of the world.

Well, sex is a part of daily life in every part of the world. So, according to you, there should be even less of a taboo concerning sex, and consequently, sex is not as bad as violence.
THE LOST PLANET
25-04-2007, 20:40
you were so moderate!

how dare a soap company marketing tool call you up and suggest that THEY can protect your children from bad advertising better than you can?Uh.. yeah, OK.


Except the Dove Foundation is a faith based watchdog organization for TV and film ratings...

and not the manufacturers of Dove soap.
Sumamba Buwhan
25-04-2007, 20:41
thats the one. take a good look at it next time. its a room full of women, much younger than our hero. he gives one woman a nod and she leaves with him.

its a brothel.


It's on every night it seems so I'll take a looksee tonight.
Ashmoria
25-04-2007, 20:46
Uh.. yeah, OK.


Except the Dove Foundation is a faith based watchdog organization for TV and film ratings...

and not the manufacturers of Dove soap.

OOHHHHH that makes a difference.

you were still moderate enough to not tell them to take their drive for censorship and shove it.
THE LOST PLANET
25-04-2007, 20:51
OOHHHHH that makes a difference.

you were still moderate enough to not tell them to take their drive for censorship and shove it.Years of experiance have taught me that a calm, logical expression of ones opinion is not as easily dismissed as a ranting, angry one. :cool:
Zarakon
25-04-2007, 22:03
Pole please ;)

Boooooooo!!!

Umm..inappropriate is going a bit far, but certainly distasteful.
Cyrian space
25-04-2007, 22:20
I always wondered why they thought it would be a good idea to name a condom brand after a bunch of guys who opened their gates for a wooden horse, presented to them as a gift, which was filled with men who, once allowed to leave the horse, killed a bunch of people.

Also, whenever someone says "Never look a gift horse in the mouth" tell them "Yeah, that worked so well for the Trojans, didn't it?"
Zarakon
25-04-2007, 22:24
I always wondered why they thought it would be a good idea to name a condom brand after a bunch of guys who opened their gates for a wooden horse, presented to them as a gift, which was filled with men who, once allowed to leave the horse, killed a bunch of people.

Also, whenever someone says "Never look a gift horse in the mouth" tell them "Yeah, that worked so well for the Trojans, didn't it?"

I prefer Ramses condoms. What better guy to name a brand of birth control after then a guy who had around 110 kids?
Soviestan
25-04-2007, 22:38
Well, sex is a part of daily life in every part of the world. So, according to you, there should be even less of a taboo concerning sex, and consequently, sex is not as bad as violence.

The difference is sex is a personal thing done behind closed doors. Thats where it belongs, not on every billboard, magazine and television set.
UnHoly Smite
25-04-2007, 22:39
I laugh because you've assumed humans aren't animals. We are.



I quoted this to show what is wrong with the human race. It is a sad day when so many think we are animals and refuse to evolve above this. You may be an animal, but I am not. Saying we are animals is like saying we no different from Chimps, and it is clear we are different from them and I refuse to be put on the same level as a poop throwing primate.
UnHoly Smite
25-04-2007, 22:44
The difference is sex is a personal thing done behind closed doors. Thats where it belongs, not on every billboard, magazine and television set.



Ask those of us who are not getting any the moment! Hands off my porn you prude! LOL! J/K!


In all fairness I actually agree with you.
Zarakon
25-04-2007, 22:44
The difference is sex is a personal thing done behind closed doors. Thats where it belongs, not on every billboard, magazine and television set.

So...

Violence does?
Soviestan
26-04-2007, 07:50
So...

Violence does?

I would rather have violence than sex in the media. Though I suppose it would be nice not to have either.
Dryks Legacy
26-04-2007, 07:52
The difference is sex is a personal thing done behind closed doors. Thats where it belongs, not on every billboard, magazine and television set.
Ask those of us who are not getting any the moment! Hands off my porn you prude! LOL! J/K!


In all fairness I actually agree with you.

You may be of a dying breed.... and that make me sad :(
Neo Undelia
26-04-2007, 07:53
The difference is sex is a personal thing done behind closed doors. Thats where it belongs, not on every billboard, magazine and television set.
Says you.
Anti-Social Darwinism
26-04-2007, 08:00
I think that, for some men, ED means they're no longer needed in the gene pool and should not try to re-enter.

I find the ads pathetic, but less offensive than the spam I get about ED, since i'm female and it, at best, only concerns me indirectly.
THE LOST PLANET
26-04-2007, 09:12
The difference is sex is a personal thing done behind closed doors. Thats where it belongs, not on every billboard, magazine and television set.And of course violence isn't personal at all and is a public event suitable for broadcast, print and general viewing.:rolleyes:

Sorry, I'd still rather my kids see two people making love than two people trying to kill each other.
Haken Rider
26-04-2007, 09:36
And of course violence isn't personal at all and is a public event suitable for broadcast, print and general viewing.:rolleyes:

Sorry, I'd still rather my kids see two people making love than two people trying to kill each other.
It's all good. Most people like to watch violence, it's natural. People have used violence since we could walk.

I like to see it on a screen, not in real life, though.

________

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZgQb0tLcjo
Callisdrun
26-04-2007, 12:30
Inappropriate? No. Stupid and annoying, like almost every other commercial ever made? Yes.
Bottle
26-04-2007, 12:36
I've never really understood this POV that violence is somehow as bad as sex. To me there no should be no taboo on violence. Its a part of daily life in many parts of the world.
Funny, but violence isn't any part of my daily life. On your average day, I don't shoot anybody, hit anybody, kick anybody, stab anybody, or otherwise brutalize any human body.

On the other hand, I do get jiggy on a regular basis.

If violence is more common in your life than sex, PLEASE SEEK HELP. I'm serious, here. All joking aside. Please get help, get out, and love yourself enough to find a safer place for yourself.
[NS]MWXK
26-04-2007, 13:21
Am I the only one who can appreciate the brilliance (and often insanity) of professional advertisers? Take Enzyte for example. The use of phallic imagery to imply something about the product without actually saying ANYTHING is shear genius! The product has been tested and reviewed - no one has found any evidence that it actually DOES anything at all and thus, they can't advertise that it does. So, they don't. They never say what it supposed to do, they just imply it.

Brilliant!
Ifreann
26-04-2007, 13:25
MWXK;12582833']Am I the only one who can appreciate the brilliance (and often insanity) of professional advertisers? Take Enzyte for example. The use of phallic imagery to imply something about the product without actually saying ANYTHING is shear genius! The product has been tested and reviewed - no one has found any evidence that it actually DOES anything at all and thus, they can't advertise that it does. So, they don't. They never say what it supposed to do, they just imply it.

Brilliant!

I tihnk someone's said it already, but it is genius on their part. I hope their marketing team got a raise out of it.
Risottia
26-04-2007, 14:05
How would you like to have better sex?

More often.
Gift-of-god
26-04-2007, 14:51
The difference is sex is a personal thing done behind closed doors. Thats where it belongs, not on every billboard, magazine and television set.

And violence has its place too, where it belongs, rather than on 'every billboard, magazine and television set'.

To me it's like circular logic, but I also understand that people may not want their children exposed to either. I would argue that violence is more detrimental to the child's psyche than sex would be.

Yet we have far less qualms about showing our kids violence in the media than we do about the naked human body. But when our kids get out into the real world, they are faced with a contradiction because we, as a society, also condemn violence and support sexuality. To give you an example, on public TV, you can see many graphic depictions of violence, but I cannot go out the door and commit those acts on somebody else anywhere. I cannot see graphic depictions of sex on public TV, but I can go out to a local bar, chat up somebody of the appropriate sex and gender, and engage in sexual acts to my hearts content. We preach one way to our children, and we expect them to act another.

I would prefer not to see any violence on TV. I accomplish this easily by not watching TV at all.

Sex on TV? The same solution exists for you.
Carisbrooke
26-04-2007, 16:17
British Heat Foundation are currently running a newspaper campaign that tells you that you should have sex for 30 Min's a day...(it also says that you could climb stairs, garden, swim or walk the dog, but they are not written in bold!)

I am planning to cut it out and stick it on the headboard and demand my minimum quota...

;)
Gift-of-god
26-04-2007, 16:19
British Heat Foundation are currently running a newspaper campaign that tells you that you should have sex for 30 Min's a day...(it also says that you could climb stairs, garden, swim or walk the dog, but they are not written in bold!)

I am planning to cut it out and stick it on the headboard and demand my minimum quota...

;)

I assume you meant the British Heart Foundation, but the typo is marvellous.
OcceanDrive
26-04-2007, 16:44
.. creatures only interested in seeking animal pleasure.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hokRwOuANkU
:D
Soviestan
26-04-2007, 17:36
Sorry, I'd still rather my kids see two people making love than two people trying to kill each other.

I feel sorry for your kids then
Risottia
26-04-2007, 17:44
I assume you meant the British Heart Foundation, but the typo is marvellous.

ÜberLOL! I like typos.
Also mistranslations are great. A friend of mine told me about the italian translation of a book of Terry Pratchett's. Instead of a wasp (it: "calabrONE", Vespa crabro iirc) buzzing into the helmet of a sleeping knight, the mistranslation made an inhabitant of Calabria (it: "calabrESE") fly into the poor man's helmet.
OcceanDrive
26-04-2007, 18:00
British Heat Foundation are currently running a newspaper campaign that tells you that you should have sex for 30 Min's a day...(it also says that you could climb stairs, garden, swim or walk the dog, but they are not written in bold!)

I am planning to cut it out and stick it on the headboard and demand my minimum quota...

;)I need a link for that please..

To show my future wife why I need to keep -at least- 3 sexy girl-friends.. :D
Remote Observer
26-04-2007, 18:30
I have the tv on in the background and this is how the commerical starts out. So, do you find these ED, male enhancement, condom, etc. commericals inapporiate or at least distasteful? Or is it just me? A commerical like this wouldn't have been on the air 40 or even 20 years ago. What direction are we heading in?

It's just you.
Jocabia
26-04-2007, 18:46
I feel sorry for your kids then

Really? So which would you prefer your children eventually have as a regular part of their life? Violence or sex?

Which will occur in your home with your children in it? Violence or sex?

Where did you children come from? Violence or sex?

Which is an unavoidable part of life and which is a part of life we do our best to stop completely everywhere we encounter it? Violence or sex?

Acting like violence is more acceptable than sex is possitively addled.
Remote Observer
26-04-2007, 18:56
Really? So which would you prefer your children eventually have as a regular part of their life? Violence or sex?

Which will occur in your home with your children in it? Violence or sex?

Where did you children come from? Violence or sex?

Which is an unavoidable part of life and which is a part of life we do our best to stop completely everywhere we encounter it? Violence or sex?

Acting like violence is more acceptable than sex is possitively addled.

People worry about kids playing with guns, or watching violent videos, that some sort of culture of violence will take them over. Nobody worries about kids listening to thousands, literally thousands of songs about heartbreak, rejection, pain, misery and loss.
OcceanDrive
26-04-2007, 19:02
I think the idea of sex for 30 min might scare some people. Might cause some pressure to perform. :pmales or females?? :D
Jocabia
26-04-2007, 19:03
People worry about kids playing with guns, or watching violent videos, that some sort of culture of violence will take them over. Nobody worries about kids listening to thousands, literally thousands of songs about heartbreak, rejection, pain, misery and loss.

Yes. And, by fact, I know that every person on the street walking with their children engaged in sex to get them (exclude adoption and immaculate conception). I can't look at any person and go "that person is a violent person". I can't EVER do that unless I know them.

Like it or not, we know a lot more about who is having sex than who is behaving violently.

That anyone would have the warped view that they'd prefer their children see violence in the world than love is just positively base and sad.
Utracia
26-04-2007, 19:04
British Heat Foundation are currently running a newspaper campaign that tells you that you should have sex for 30 Min's a day...(it also says that you could climb stairs, garden, swim or walk the dog, but they are not written in bold!)

I am planning to cut it out and stick it on the headboard and demand my minimum quota...

;)

I think the idea of sex for 30 min might scare some people. Might cause some pressure to perform. :p
Kbrookistan
26-04-2007, 20:38
I think the idea of sex for 30 min might scare some people. Might cause some pressure to perform. :p

And thus the need for male enhancement! And commercials therefor!
Callisdrun
26-04-2007, 23:22
I feel sorry for your kids then

I feel sorry for YOUR children. What kind of an attitude holds that violence is healthier than sex? That's ridiculous. Sex, if consensual and done as safely as possible, harms no one. Violence is inherently harmful, otherwise it wouldn't be violence.

Yours is the logic of a sociopath.
Darknovae
26-04-2007, 23:27
I hate, hate, hate those damn commercials with that smiling guy for that 'natural male enhancement' thing. Can't remember the name. The rest doesn't bother me, altho the priapisim warnings in the ED ads make me giggle. Yes, I'm immature. Leave me alone.

Oh jeeze, the Enzyte guy? Ugh... didn't the FDA say that it didn't work? Wonder what Bob's face would look liek then :p

Anyway, all those "natural male enhancement" ads are stupid. And the ED ones. They're all retarded.
Zarakon
27-04-2007, 00:14
Really? So which would you prefer your children eventually have as a regular part of their life? Violence or sex?

I imagine in Soviestan's opinion, sure as hell not sex.


Which will occur in your home with your children in it? Violence or sex?


Well, almost assuredly both, knowing kids. But knowing Soviestan, only violence.

Anyway...

'Tis a shame you pretty much missed the Shakers, Soviestan. They probably would've liked you. Except I think they were also pacifists, so maybe not.

I feel sorry for YOUR children. What kind of an attitude holds that violence is healthier than sex? That's ridiculous. Sex, if consensual and done as safely as possible, harms no one. Violence is inherently harmful, otherwise it wouldn't be violence.

Yours is the logic of a sociopath.

Definition-wise, as far as I understand, Sociopaths simply don't give a damn about other people's feelings. Soviestan's logic is, IMAO, more along the lines of psychopathic.

For those of you wondering, I just had to use the acronym "IMAO" in a post.