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Well, it's Anzac day tomorrow, a pretty important public holiday in Australia, and we all take it pretty seriously. Just created this thread for discussion and the like, I was actually going to go up to Turkey this year with my friends to attend the dawn service, but I put it off. Anyways just looking for discussion on this day and the history behind it.

I get paid double tomorrow! Yay! ;)



No, seriously, Anzac Day is something I have never understood and probably never will. It's part of growing up German, I suppose, that the idea of celebrating what soldiers do is pretty foreign to me.

I get paid double tomorrow! Yay! ;)

Me too! Yay! (actually, double and a half, I think)

I get paid double tomorrow! Yay! ;)



No, seriously, Anzac Day is something I have never understood and probably never will. It's part of growing up German, I suppose, that the idea of celebrating what soldiers do is pretty foreign to me.

it's about the mateship under fire and been lead by poms who could not orgoranize a chook raffel

No, seriously, Anzac Day is something I have never understood and probably never will. It's part of growing up German, I suppose, that the idea of celebrating what soldiers do is pretty foreign to me.

That's because Germany's never won a war.

I get paid double tomorrow! Yay! ;)



No, seriously, Anzac Day is something I have never understood and probably never will. It's part of growing up German, I suppose, that the idea of celebrating what soldiers do is pretty foreign to me.

it's about the mateship under fire and been lead by poms who could not orgoranize a chook raffel

It's also an excuse for a day off and possibly a barbecue.

Well, it's Anzac day tomorrow, a pretty important public holiday in Australia, and we all take it pretty seriously.

Important in NZ too.

It's interesting that its importance and popularity as an observance has grown significantly here over the last decade... Dawn Parades get larger every year.

It's also an excuse for a day off and possibly a barbecue.

shit forgot that, but we got rain so may be not so i guess i just watch ANZACS on DVD

That's because Germany's never won a war.

How about the Thirty Years' War? Germans fought on both sides.. meaning some of them won. So at least some former German kingdoms won wars..

And, of course, there was the Franco-Prussian War, if that counts. It was a German victory, but only over the French.. so that might be a gray area.

The Seven Weeks' War is probably a better example.

That's because Germany's never won a war.Yeah, Germans only win wars once they've emigrated. *nods at France, the UK and probably the USA as well in some capacity*

But really, it's not the winning that matters, it's the talking part that counts. And Germany's really is a good team player, always willing to help get everyone involved, even if it means they're less likely to win. Good on Germany I say.

Yeah, Germans only win wars once they've emigrated. *nods at France, the UK and probably the USA as well in some capacity*

But really, it's not the winning that matters, it's the talking part that counts. And Germany's really is a good team player, always willing to help get everyone involved, even if it means they're less likely to win. Good on Germany I say.

thats nice of them

what i be watching on the day
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088479/

I will be going to Suton's Beach at Redcliffe and playing touch and having a barbie. I was thinking of heading down the coast to the Dawn service to watch Powderfinger play afterwards, but meh.

And the point of ANZAC Day is that it was the first war that Australia fought in as a nation after Federation. It's considered our baptism of fire, so as to speak. There are other reasons as well but.

I'll be tired, cranky and doing essays after being up all night watching the cricket. Hopefully we do better against the Sri Lankans than we did against the Turks..

I'll be tired, cranky and doing essays after being up all night watching the cricket. Hopefully we do better against the Sri Lankans than we did against the Turks..

Doubt it, our team's crap now.

ANZAC Day is a combination of many things. It is recognition of courage, a recognition of camaraderie, and an acknowledgement and celebration of all good things in the human spirit which war, though itself a barbaric anti-thesis of all that is good, brings to the fore.

It is our nation(as a nation, rather than a collection of states)'s baptism of fire. Our collective introduction to the world, in a theatre of conflict that all powers measured themselves by.

It may have been a loss, but, as much as any military action can be, it was a memorable one.

I will be having a gunfire breakfast tomorrow, an Australian Army tradition, at 0530. Two ANZAC biscuits, and a coffee with rum...

Anyone else going to join me?

Well, it's Anzac day tomorrow, a pretty important public holiday in Australia, and we all take it pretty seriously. Just created this thread for discussion and the like, I was actually going to go up to Turkey this year with my friends to attend the dawn service, but I put it off. Anyways just looking for discussion on this day and the history behind it.

We take all public holidays seriously in Australia. They are a very serious opportunity to maximise our drunkenness.

Yes ANZAC day in New zealand. I love New Zealand!

everyone is wearing poppies on their chests
the dawn parades (I've been to one, woke up very early and then went to Auckland war memorial museum and saw our veterans and some soldiers lay wreathes under the front monument, it was awsome)

and the ANZAC biscuites my mum will make :p

Am I allowed drink during ANZAC Day?

That's because Germany's never won a war.

They have only been a country for 136 years. Give them a little more time :D

Am I allowed drink during ANZAC Day?

Of course. In fact, it's almost obligatory.

Am I allowed drink during ANZAC Day?

It's mandatory. In fact, NOT drinking on ANZAC Day is a crime punishable by forcible intoxication at the local RSL, followed by listening to veterans' war stories and bad cover bands.

Of course. In fact, it's almost obligatory.

Then I approve of this holiday.

Well, down here in New Zealand, we cannot have a drink until 1pm when everything opens.

Personally I love the fact that I have no lectures tomorrow and of course it is one of those patriotic days.

In saying that, it is a day to remember the New Zealand, Australian, British and French troops that were sacrificed at Gallipoli; the victims of complete incompetence.

I suppose it will also be thinking of a world that might have been - had we won Gallipoli, the Ottomans would have almost certainly been knocked out of the war; the Russians would have gotten supplies and Germany would have been crushed. France would not have been so badly damaged so the Treaty of Versailles would not have been as harsh. Since the Russians would not have starved, there would have been no October Revolution and maybe, just maybe, Communism would still be a tinpot theory. Also, since the Ottoman campaign would have been so short, there would have been no need for T. E. Lawrence to get involved and of course a reduced Palestinian problem as certain promises would have never been made. The British Empire would not have been so badly wounded, so there could very well have been two great powers today, the British Empire and the United States.

The world that might have been.

It's mandatory. In fact, NOT drinking on ANZAC Day is a crime punishable by forcible intoxication at the local RSL, followed by listening to veterans' war stories and bad cover bands.

on your side of Australia not here as they not that big
but i think i go an play two up at Burswood casino

They have only been a country for 136 years. Give them a little more time :D

Australia has been a nation for 106 years.

We take all public holidays seriously in Australia. They are a very serious opportunity to maximise our drunkenness.

Don't forget slacking off

on your side of Australia not here as they not that big
but i think i go an play two up at Burswood casino

I always thought you were in Mount Isa because of your name. Whereabouts in Perth are you? The casino is pretty nice, but I haven't been inside since I turned 18, so I missed all the good bits. :(

Don't forget slacking off

was too lazy to include that...

I always thought you were in Mount Isa because of your name. Whereabouts in Perth are you? The casino is pretty nice, but I haven't been inside since I turned 18, so I missed all the good bits. :(

it's in my sig what ISA stands for

where i'm in is the foothills area ,as for the casino the standeds have drop a bit

it's in my sig what ISA stands for

where i'm in is the foothills area ,as for the casino the standeds have drop a bit

I have family in Belmont. Is that anywhere near there? And I imagine they would have. Nothing to rival Conrad Jupiters or Treasury.

thats nice of them

what i be watching on the day
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088479/I'm not sure how to respond this... you've obviously understood the intended humour, but your reply is so deadpan... it's... Bah! Bah, I say. :p

I have family in Belmont. Is that anywhere near there? And I imagine they would have. Nothing to rival Conrad Jupiters or Treasury.

Belmont 15 or 20 mins down the highway, lest for the airport

Belmont 15 or 20 mins down the highway, lest for the airport

Cool.

Meh, I'll go to the Dawn Service, then I'll go home and go back to bed.
Then I'll get up and do some homework then, I don't know.

I'm not sure how to respond this... you've obviously understood the intended humour, but your reply is so deadpan... it's... Bah! Bah, I say. :p

watch it when we are about things go missing

watch it when we are about things go missingI saw what you did there. Stealing my 'to', but how about you steal some of my grammar and use it yourself.

I saw what you did there. Stealing my 'to', but how about you steal some of my grammar and use it yourself.

be more happy to steal 20 boxs of fine old whisky, when you are looking the other way

be more happy to steal 20 boxs of fine old whisky, when you are looking the other wayI don't have any whiskey, I do, however, have a bottle of Lindisfarne mead and a bottle of cheap, but good, australian white wine. True story.

Oh and two cans of Stella, and two thirds of an expensive bottle of aftershave. The aftershave doesn't say what proof it is though.

I don't have any whiskey, I do, however, have a bottle of Lindisfarne mead and a bottle of cheap, but good, australian white wine. True story.

not the same and theres no war

oh an we do make same good wine

That's because Germany's never won a war.
Well, actually, we won against Serbia not too long ago. And again against Afghanistan a little while later. :p

Germany's been getting pretty good at winning wars without having to do a whole lot recently. Though it might look like that's over for the time being.

I get paid double tomorrow! Yay! ;)



No, seriously, Anzac Day is something I have never understood and probably never will. It's part of growing up German, I suppose, that the idea of celebrating what soldiers do is pretty foreign to me.
Where as if you had been born 60 years earlier and backwards for about another 300, you would know.:p

http://www.comics.com/comics/frazz/archive/images/frazz2091644070424.gif

Wednesday April 25, 09:00 AM
Flag set alight at dawn parade, two arrested

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Two protesters were arrested at the Anzac Day dawn parade in Wellington today after a New Zealand flag was set alight.

A man and woman are to appear in Wellington District Court today charged with obstructing a police officer and offensive behaviour respectively after the incident which marred the speech by former Secretary of State Graham Fortune.

A small group calling themselves Peace Action Wellington sounded a horn and a flag was set alight in the grounds of the Old Government Buildings.

Police quickly extinguished the flag and apprehended two people, including the man, who continued to shout: "Stop assaulting me. You're assaulting me."

The incident happened between two protest banners: "Conscientious objectors. The Real War Heroes", and "Lest we forget... Already Forgotten. Afghanistan, Solomon Islands, East Timor."

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Wellington Senior Sergeant Hamish Milne told NZPA the obstruction related to the protester's refusal to give police the horn which the man was blowing to interrupt the service.

Peace Action Wellington Valerie Morse later issued a statement saying they were protesting about the message being given at Anzac Day.

"Anzac Day has ceased to be a day where we commit to `never again', and has instead become nothing less than a celebration of the New Zealand military and the glorification of war."

She said New Zealand troops were now serving around the world.

"Lest we forget that the military has, and always will, exist for the sole purpose of waging war."
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/070424/3/d3i.html

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/070424/3/d3i.html

what the hell is it with your ANZAC day and protesters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzac_day

what the hell is it with your ANZAC day and protesters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzac_day
Well it's simple, people fight and die to protect peopes freedom and the freedom of speech, that freedom of speech in turn is used to abuse those who gave that right.
Gosh it's beautiful.

Still doesn't beat the fag handles that skateboarded over the Unknown Warriors resting place.

That's because Germany's never won a war.

Franco-Prussian war of 1878.