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A rural Georgia High School just held it's first integrated prom... ever. Linky (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3065077&page=1)

Seems they got around that whole pesky civil rights thing all these years by the students raising funds and holding an 'unofficial' prom for whites only (to be fair, the blacks did the same thing, but really, what choice did they have). This year they finally held an official school prom that all could attend.

And before you start trashing me for blaming it all on the whites, please note that a seperate, 'unofficial' whites only prom was still held a couple of weeks before the official school prom.

Funny thing, the blacks didn't feel that they needed to anymore...

Next year .... they may let the band play some of that newfangled "jazz" music.

Segregation will live as long as there are black only colleges.

Segregation will live as long as there are black only colleges.

Those "black only" colleges you rant about accept white students, you know.

Segregation will live as long as there are black only colleges.

What about those black only projects and 'hoods? We should do as much as possible to intergrate blacks into the suburbs. -nods-

Those "black only" colleges you rant about accept white students, you know.


You call that a rant? Whatever.


Oh and prove it.

What about those black only projects and 'hoods? We should do as much as possible to intergrate blacks into the suburbs. -nods-



:rolleyes: You never cease to amaze me.


Try going into those hoods and see what happens white boy.

:rolleyes: You never cease to amaze me.


Try going into those hoods and see what happens white boy.

I'd be just fine, seeing as I used to live in the hood for about 6 years of my life, not to mention that might dad still does. So go take your eye rolling else where.

I'd be just fine, seeing as I used to live in the hood for about 6 years of my life, not to mention that might dad still does. So go take your eye rolling else where.



You crack me up. I would love to see what you call the HOOD.. Sure..:p

Well, take a look at the Wikipedia page for Ashburn, aka "the Peanut Capital of the World." These people are clearly nuts. ;)



Baaaaaaaad Jooooke.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....*Crowd pelts cookavich with rotten fruits*

Those "black only" colleges you rant about accept white students, you know. They have to provide scholarships to students of other races.

Well, take a look at the Wikipedia page for Ashburn, aka "the Peanut Capital of the World." These people are clearly nuts. ;)

You crack me up. I would love to see what you call the HOOD.. Sure..:p

How about you come on down to where I64 and 57 meet. Where drug dealers from chicago and st louis come to live. I'll show you the poverty of the area I lived, and how it was 90% black. For an town that has 12% blacks, to be in an area 90% black in the city, it constitutes as being a hood. I remember walking home from middle school, hearing gun shots now and again, having cops patrol the area nonstop. I remember seeing a black man on the side walk, with his pants down, doped out of his mind. It was because of my experience in living in that type of environment that I wanted to be in politics to change things so that people wouldn't have to live in such hell. It was because of living down there, that I also became a Christian. I saw the suffering and need for something more in people's lives, and I saw the hope for them and myself through the Message of Christ.

Segregation will live as long as there are black only colleges.
What Black only colleges? There are historically Black colleges and predominately Black colleges, but I haven't heard of black only.

Of course there might be some small private liberal arts colleges out there that receive no federal funding and can be segregated like that, but I get the feeling that's not what you're talking about.

Segregation will live as long as there are black only colleges.

Even if such colleges exist (and I don't believe they do) it is rather asinine to blame them for segregation.

Did you study history prior to 1970?

Are you aware that the country was legal segregated? That it remains de facto segregated in many areas? That in some parts of the country elementary and high schools are become increasing segregated again?

How is the is fault of black colleges?

Grow up. Read a little. Get some perspective.

:rolleyes: You never cease to amaze me.

Try going into those hoods and see what happens white boy.

What's your point? Are you saying that the residents of "hoods" are sub-human?

:rolleyes: You never cease to amaze me.


Try going into those hoods and see what happens white boy.Uh... nothing? Up until a year ago I pretty much had to go into a mostly black, depressed, low income neighborhood every night.

You see that's where I kept all my stuff. I lived there.

Uh... nothing? Up until a year ago I pretty much had to go into a mostly black, depressed, low income neighborhood every night.

You see that's where I kept all my stuff. I lived there.


Oh don't you know? We cannot possibly know what a hood looks like! Amazing to think that we both live(d) in one and we don't know anything about it!

What's your point? Are you saying that the residents of "hoods" are sub-human?


Is there any reason for me to respond to this tripe?




Jeez, my grandfather lives in one. :rolleyes:

How about you come on down to where I64 and 57 meet. Where drug dealers from chicago and st louis come to live. I'll show you the poverty of the area I lived, and how it was 90% black. For an town that has 12% blacks, to be in an area 90% black in the city, it constitutes as being a hood. I remember walking home from middle school, hearing gun shots now and again, having cops patrol the area nonstop. I remember seeing a black man on the side walk, with his pants down, doped out of his mind. It was because of my experience in living in that type of environment that I wanted to be in politics to change things so that people wouldn't have to live in such hell. It was because of living down there, that I also became a Christian. I saw the suffering and need for something more in people's lives, and I saw the hope for them and myself through the Message of Christ.



Christ? ok........I have been to those place in Southern California, but here it's not only Black but Hispanic to. Ever been to places in LA Country? Ever seen groups of Bloods and crips? Segregation still exists in a lot of areas, while not forced it is willing. If you knew anything, you would see how clumped races in this country can get, even in some schools were blacks stay with blacks and Hispanics stay with Hispanics. Did you not know about racial violence last year between Blacks and Hispanics? segregation is still an issue when races stay clumped in regions and are afraid or unable to leave out of fear of not being able to survive. You don't know as much as you think, and Christ won't save these people from poverty.

Oh don't you know? We cannot possibly know what a hood looks like! Amazing to think that we both live(d) in one and we don't know anything about it!


Because you don't live in one? Claiming you live in one doesn't mean you do.

This is just disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. I'm actually speechless.

How demeaning to grow up in a place not being able to attend the same prom as all of your classmates, simply because of bigotry and racism.

And unHoly Smite, I hardly think that the many issues and problems of urban poverty and racial separation have any bearing on the fact that in the 21st century a small town was able to practice segregation reminiscent of half a century ago.

This is just disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. I'm actually speechless.

How demeaning to grow up in a place not being able to attend the same prom as all of your classmates, simply because of bigotry and racism.

And unHoly Smite, I hardly think that the many issues and problems of urban poverty and racial separation have any bearing on the fact that in the 21st century a small town was able to practice segregation reminiscent of half a century ago.


But it doesn't change the fact we are still seeing willing segregation or forced economic segregation. You know some stay in one area due to not being able to economically survive in another.

But it doesn't change the fact we are still seeing willing segregation or forced economic segregation. You know some stay in one area due to not being able to economically survive in another.

And I can argue all day with you about institutionalised and societal subconscious racism. I can show you statistics that demonstrate teacher bias against students with "exotic sounding names". I can give you anecdotes of the disempowerment of minorities that lead them to group together in communities. But it does not bear any relevance to the discussion of this disgusting example that highlights the open and unashamed bigotry that still exists in this society.

Yes there is willing segregation. But this is influenced by institutionalised and socially accepted racism and discrimination.

Look. Its Georgia. Of course they are behind the times. I hear the transistor hasn't even made it down there.

Because you don't live in one? Claiming you live in one doesn't mean you do.I lived in Oak Park, a predominently black neighborhood southeast of Sacramento, home of the 'forty acres project', a few blocks from the intersection of Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd and Broadway. Four people were shot to death in the immediate block where I lived in the year I lived there, mostly in the low income apartments that sat across the alley behind the converted house I rented a studio in. Despite all that I kind of liked it there. I didn't have any interaction with the drug dealers in the apartments, I wasn't stepping on anybodys toes and I stayed off the basketball courts near the Police Athletic League building. I smiled at my neighbors, made small talk and gave change to the frequenters of the food bank down the street. I planeted flowers in the front yard and flirted with the black girls who worked in the coffee shop on Broadway. I made myself part of the neighborhood and was accepted for it. I didn't act better or different or like I feared my neighbors. If you accept others they will accept you.

That it remains de facto segregated in many areas?

And oddly enough, nowhere is it more segregated than in the Detroit Metro area.

Christ? ok........I have been to those place in Southern California, but here it's not only Black but Hispanic to. Ever been to places in LA Country? Ever seen groups of Bloods and crips? Segregation still exists in a lot of areas, while not forced it is willing. If you knew anything, you would see how clumped races in this country can get, even in some schools were blacks stay with blacks and Hispanics stay with Hispanics. Did you not know about racial violence last year between Blacks and Hispanics? segregation is still an issue when races stay clumped in regions and are afraid or unable to leave out of fear of not being able to survive. You don't know as much as you think, and Christ won't save these people from poverty.

Well, as we have only a few hispanic families where I am from, its hard to see if they segregate themselves or not. But my point stand, if we want to integrate society, we should do so. In this case, pour tons of resources into the poor areas and you will see a sharp decrease in all the negative that we see and talk about. You know why they have gangs and cliques in the poor area? Its a battlefield in there. If you want to make a living, you have to off the competition, and surround yourself with like minded people. Watch the movie Ghost Writers.

Oh one last thing, Christ might not save us from being poor, but He will save us from despair. :)

I made myself part of the neighborhood and was accepted for it. I didn't act better or different or like I feared my neighbors. If you accept others they will accept you.



Exactly! I was making this point in a thread a few months ago when someone mentioned East St. Louis. That place is known for one thing, and that is crime. White people always try to avoid it, cuz they fear getting mugged or shot or smething like that. However, anytime I goto St. Louis, I usually stop in E. Stl to get fuel or whatever. I go in, act normal, nod my head in a friendly way, and just be polite. Its like when you come across a snake(this isn't the best explanation, but oh well). Normally, if you act normal and walk away, it will be okay. But if you sit there and poke ate it, or act in a way that it deems dangerous, it will attack you. I am not saying that people from poor areas are reptiles, just saying its a similar nature. You don't do anything stupid, and you show respect, you will be ok. But when you act stupid and all that crap, you will see hostility.

And I can argue all day with you about institutionalised and societal subconscious racism. I can show you statistics that demonstrate teacher bias against students with "exotic sounding names". I can give you anecdotes of the disempowerment of minorities that lead them to group together in communities. But it does not bear any relevance to the discussion of this disgusting example that highlights the open and unashamed bigotry that still exists in this society.

Yes there is willing segregation. But this is influenced by institutionalised and socially accepted racism and discrimination.


If you want to ignore the problem fine, you don't have to live here. But I do.

Well, as we have only a few hispanic families where I am from, its hard to see if they segregate themselves or not. But my point stand, if we want to integrate society, we should do so. In this case, pour tons of resources into the poor areas and you will see a sharp decrease in all the negative that we see and talk about. You know why they have gangs and cliques in the poor area? Its a battlefield in there. If you want to make a living, you have to off the competition, and surround yourself with like minded people. Watch the movie Ghost Writers.

Oh one last thing, Christ might not save us from being poor, but He will save us from despair. :)



I don't need you to preach to me about an area I live near and you don't. I know more about this shit than you do, my family had connections to the bloods. I don't need you to give me some bible driven sermon on something I already know.


Yeah right. Christ never saved anybody from despair, just made you think some all powerful being gave a crap.

Exactly! I was making this point in a thread a few months ago when someone mentioned East St. Louis. That place is known for one thing, and that is crime. White people always try to avoid it, cuz they fear getting mugged or shot or smething like that. However, anytime I goto St. Louis, I usually stop in E. Stl to get fuel or whatever. I go in, act normal, nod my head in a friendly way, and just be polite. Its like when you come across a snake(this isn't the best explanation, but oh well). Normally, if you act normal and walk away, it will be okay. But if you sit there and poke ate it, or act in a way that it deems dangerous, it will attack you. I am not saying that people from poor areas are reptiles, just saying its a similar nature. You don't do anything stupid, and you show respect, you will be ok. But when you act stupid and all that crap, you will see hostility.

Exactly. I live in a suburb that is seen as the arse end of south east Queensland. We apparently have a problem with our Islander population evolving into violent gangs and bashing people "for no reason". But when you mouth off to someone and accuse them of copulating with various family members, bad things are bound to happen. Especially when they are a 6"5', 90 kg Samoan with his large extended family behind him. Show some basic respect, and things will be fine.

I don't need you to preach to me about an area I live near and you don't. I know more about this shit than you do, my family had connections to the bloods. I don't need you to give me some bible driven sermon on something I already know.

:rolleyes: Lets see an area you live NEAR or one that I lived in, and where my father still lives? Hmm. I wonder who has more on hand experience.

Listen, we can do this pissing contest all night, its not going to change the fact that there needs to be something done about poverty and segregation of minorities in the 'hood.


Yeah right. Christ never saved anybody from despair, just made you think some all powerful being gave a crap.

Well thats your opinion.

If you want to ignore the problem fine, you don't have to live here. But I do.

I'm not ignoring the problem. I'm saying there is much, much more to it than a simple, "It's all their fault, they just want to live in poverty and be thugs." And that all the myriad root causes of this problem have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that all students, regardless of skin colour should be able to celebrate the end of their schooling at a school they are enrolled in at the same dance.

I lived in Oak Park, a predominently black neighborhood southeast of Sacramento, home of the 'forty acres project', a few blocks from the intersection of Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd and Broadway. Four people were shot to death in the immediate block where I lived in the year I lived there, mostly in the low income apartments that sat across the alley behind the converted house I rented a studio in. Despite all that I kind of liked it there. I didn't have any interaction with the drug dealers in the apartments, I wasn't stepping on anybodys toes and I stayed off the basketball courts near the Police Athletic League building. I smiled at my neighbors, made small talk and gave change to the frequenters of the food bank down the street. I planeted flowers in the front yard and flirted with the black girls who worked in the coffee shop on Broadway. I made myself part of the neighborhood and was accepted for it. I didn't act better or different or like I feared my neighbors. If you accept others they will accept you.



Must be nice living in a rose colored world isn't it? Must be nice thinking if I just be nice they will all love me....I tried it, doesn't mean a damn thing when the people are racist. Just because you accept others doesn't mean they accept you.

Flirted with black girls? I have a hard time buying that no black guy didn't take offence to that.

Because you don't live in one? Claiming you live in one doesn't mean you do.

If you want to ignore the problem fine, you don't have to live here. But I do.

You don't live in one either.

:rolleyes: Lets see an area you live NEAR or one that I lived in, and where my father still lives? Hmm. I wonder who has more on hand experience.



Sout Central LA ring any bells to you? My grandfather still lives near there. Don't try the I have more experience than you line, I can assure you that you don't. Shit, I live on a street with crack dens in them.

Listen, we can do this pissing contest all night, its not going to change the fact that there needs to be something done about poverty and segregation of minorities in the 'hood.


No shit. But christ won't do it. I don't like it when people use religion as a solution to any problem.


Well thats your opinion.

On what?

You don't live in one either.



Prove it or go away.

I'm not ignoring the problem. I'm saying there is much, much more to it than a simple, "It's all their fault, they just want to live in poverty and be thugs." And that all the myriad root causes of this problem have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that all students, regardless of skin colour should be able to celebrate the end of their schooling at a school they are enrolled in at the same dance.An even bigger problem I see in this whole Georgia prom thing is that it is obvious that there are many children being raised to believe that associating with blacks is not something they should do. The fact that there is an organized seperate prom for whites even still (even if it is 'unofficial') shows a level of community acceptance and perpetuation of bigotry that has no place in the 21st century.

Prove it or go away.

How about you prove that I haven't lived in one?


:fluffle:

How about you prove that I haven't lived in one?


:fluffle:


I wasn't talking to you.

An even bigger problem I see in this whole Georgia prom thing is that it is obvious that there are many children being raised to believe that associating with blacks is not something they should do. The fact that there is an organized seperate prom for whites even still (even if it is 'unofficial') shows a level of community acceptance and perpetuation of bigotry that has no place in the 21st century.



It's over now. Now is the time to focus on a segregated nation do to other problems.

An even bigger problem I see in this whole Georgia prom thing is that it is obvious that there are many children being raised to believe that associating with blacks is not something they should do. The fact that there is an organized seperate prom for whites even still (even if it is 'unofficial') shows a level of community acceptance and perpetuation of bigotry that has no place in the 21st century.

Well that's what I think too. But I'm just not as eloquent. :fluffle:

Prove it or go away.

You're the one that claimed you live in a hood, the burden of proof is on you.

I wasn't talking to you.

I don't care if you were or not. You called me out on something, and it wasn't necessary. Now you see how it feels to have it come back. SO when you can prove I haven't lived where I have said I did, then I might consider continuing this argument, about what whatever we were arguing about.(i'm not too sure what we disagree on?)

Segregation will live as long as there are black only colleges.
Still waiting for examples of Black only colleges...

Still waiting for examples of Black only colleges...


You'll be waiting a while :p

Sout Central LA ring any bells to you? My grandfather still lives near there. Don't try the I have more experience than you line, I can assure you that you don't. Shit, I live on a street with crack dens in them.



Anecdotal evidence means jack shit. I live in a townhousing complex with 5 units occupied by drug dealers and manufacturers. The local high school has 150 different cultures and 600 kids. Majority of them very patriotic, very violent, very chavinistic Islanders. Yet I have never had a problem. Maybe if you knock the chip off your shoulder you will understand why the people you live NEAR treat you the way you do.

:rolleyes: You never cease to amaze me.


Try going into those hoods and see what happens white boy.

Been there, done that, no t shirts. Lived three blocks off the nastiest part of Colfax in Denver. You know, the parts where directions to our apt included going past the liquor store and turning at the porn shop.

Too bad I never said I did.. Now shoo. Zilam claimed he did, the burden of proof is on him. Now do you have something to add here?

Well, listen, I'm going home this weekend, how bout i get some pics of the old place, and such? That'll be my proof.

It's over now. Now is the time to focus on a segregated nation do to other problems.

It's not over. The community mindset is still the same, as evidenced by the fact that they still had an unofficial "whites only" prom. However, as the OP stated, the blacks didn't have one to match. Who's the racists in this situation?

You're the one that claimed you live in a hood, the burden of proof is on you.


Too bad I never said I did.. Now shoo. Zilam claimed he did, the burden of proof is on him. Now do you have something to add here?

JESUS! Forget it, Nice try flamebaiting but it won't work. You know nothing about me.


And you don't seem to know anything about the world around you. We have three people that are saying the same thing over and over, and then we have you which keeps saying the opposite. Who'd you believe at this time?

Anecdotal evidence means jack shit. I live in a townhousing complex with 5 units occupied by drug dealers and manufacturers. The local high school has 150 different cultures and 600 kids. Majority of them very patriotic, very violent, very chavinistic Islanders. Yet I have never had a problem. Maybe if you knock the chip off your shoulder you will understand why the people you live NEAR treat you the way you do.



JESUS! Forget it, Nice try flamebaiting but it won't work. You know nothing about me.

Still waiting for examples of Black only colleges...


Johnson C. Smith University, Charlotte, N.C. 99.9% Black.

Been there, done that, no t shirts. Lived three blocks off the nastiest part of Colfax in Denver. You know, the parts where directions to our apt included going past the liquor store and turning at the porn shop.
I'd be impressed if half of my home town didn't have those types of directions. :p


The joys of living in Nevada.

Johnson C. Smith University, Charlotte, N.C. 99.9% Black.

Too bad its a private school,and thus has a right to restrict admission to whom ever.

Ranked twice by U.S. News and World Report as one of the best comprehensive colleges in the South, Johnson C. Smith University continues to be a leader among private liberal arts colleges in the nation.

JESUS! Forget it, Nice try flamebaiting but it won't work. You know nothing about me.

No I don't, except from what you post. But you know nothing about the people who you criticise and belittle. Turnabout is fair play.

I'd be impressed if half of my home town didn't have those types of directions. :p


The joys of living in Nevada.



Been to Nevada...Didn't like it. Las Vegas actually....Porn shops on every corner. But you and half the world knew that.

And you don't seem to know anything about the world around you. We have three people that are saying the same thing over and over, and then we have you which keeps saying the opposite. Who'd you believe at this time?

QFT:fluffle:

Johnson C. Smith University, Charlotte, N.C. 99.9% Black.
That's predominately, not Black only. Plus, their admissions policies do not list ethnicity as a entrance requirement.

Try again.

That's predominately, not Black only. Plus, their admissions policies do not list ethnicity as a entrance requirement.

Try again.

Thats what I meant slick.

Thats what I meant slick.

So you are saying that predominantly black and black only are equal?

Lets try that equation with math.

black only= 100%
Predominantly=99%

100=/=99.

Sorry, you PHail, with a capital PH!

And you don't seem to know anything about the world around you. We have three people that are saying the same thing over and over, and then we have you which keeps saying the opposite. Who'd you believe at this time?



*Sigh* And I wasted my time with you. Go about your business, I have no use for you any longer. Go flamebait somebody else.

I'd be impressed if half of my home town didn't have those types of directions. :p


The joys of living in Nevada.

Now we live in 'the bad part' of Muskegon. We've had people tell us that we shouldn't walk outside at night, because we live in a 'scary' neighborhood. We walk the cat at night, because compared to places we lived in Denver, this place is nothing.

Says the guy from Aussie who most likely has never been to america.:rolleyes:

So only america has a problem with race relations?

*Sigh* And I wasted my time with you. Go about your business, I have no use for you any longer. Go flamebait somebody else.

Flame baiting? Please do explain. I'd love to hear this one.

Thats what I meant slick.

Then why didn't you say that? You claimed that there were black-only colleges, not colleges that white people chose not to go to and were therefore predominantly black.

QFT:fluffle:


Says the guy from Aussie who most likely has never been to america.:rolleyes:

Now we live in 'the bad part' of Muskegon.


There is a bad part there? :p

Says the guy from Aussie who most likely has never been to america.:rolleyes:

You're wrong. I'm a girl. Stop making assumptions.

And I don't have to have been to America to see that you know nothing about the world around you.

EDIT: Aussie is also the adjectival form. The word you are looking for is Oz.

You're wrong. I'm a girl. Stop making assumptions.

And I don't have to have been to America to see that you know nothing about the world around you.


Wait? We have a girl!!! Guys of NS flock to her! :D

Thats what I meant slick.You really need to learn to actaully post what you mean then, because what you posted was...Segregation will live as long as there are black only colleges
And then you posted Johnson C. Smith University as an example of one.

The term 'black only' means that it is just that, for blacks only.

Johnson C. Smith University is a traditionally black school but does not exclude other races from applying or from admission.

I don't think you will find any such college in the United States.

Wait? We have a girl!!! Guys of NS flock to her! :D

Just make sure you're all blind first. When they turn and run in the other direction screaming, "Oh the Humanity!" it does hurt my feelings so.

There is a bad part there? :p

The whole thing :p

I kid, I kid. A lot of my family lives in Muskegon and Muskegon Heights.

*assuming he meant Muskegon, Michigan*

There is a bad part there? :p

I once had my mother in law refuse to take the most direct route from their place (Apple and Maple Island, for anyone interested) to mine (in beautiful Downtown Bluffton) because it went through the 'drug area.' (Muskegon Heights, evidently, which is not the greatest neighborhood in the world.) She threw a tantrum, screaming and yelling, because she evidently thought that the black folk made a sport of harassing white folk in a minivan. What should have been a twenty minute drive took almost forty five, thanks to her. I loved my mother in law.

Just make sure you're all blind first. When they turn and run in the other direction screaming, "Oh the Humanity!" it does hurt my feelings so.

Oh please!:rolleyes:

The whole thing :p

I kid, I kid. A lot of my family lives in Muskegon and Muskegon Heights.

*assuming he meant Muskegon, Michigan*

Yes, indeedy! Hey, it doesn't even stink of the papermill anymore!

I once had my mother in law refuse to take the most direct route from their place (Apple and Maple Island, for anyone interested) to mine (in beautiful Downtown Bluffton) because it went through the 'drug area.' (Muskegon Heights, evidently, which is not the greatest neighborhood in the world.) She threw a tantrum, screaming and yelling, because she evidently thought that the black folk made a sport of harassing white folk in a minivan. What should have been a twenty minute drive took almost forty five, thanks to her. I loved my mother in law.

Hehe Home of the brave and land of the free huh!:p

Yes, indeedy! Hey, it doesn't even stink of the papermill anymore!

At least you're one of the Lakes. I'm from Mount Pleasant, which can't be any farther from them.

I once had my mother in law refuse to take the most direct route from their place (Apple and Maple Island, for anyone interested) to mine (in beautiful Downtown Bluffton) because it went through the 'drug area.' (Muskegon Heights, evidently, which is not the greatest neighborhood in the world.) She threw a tantrum, screaming and yelling, because she evidently thought that the black folk made a sport of harassing white folk in a minivan. What should have been a twenty minute drive took almost forty five, thanks to her. I loved my mother in law.


My mom now a days acts all strange. Its funny how making more money and being able to live in a bettere neighborhood changes someone. She'll do the "roll up the window, lock the door, and turn down the music" bit. It makes me giggle to see her so paranoid. I'm like mom, we used to live here. If they wanted to cap us, they would have a long time ago.:p

Oh please!:rolleyes:

I'm fishing. leave me alone, you'll scare away the bites. :mad:

Too bad I never said I did.. Now shoo. Zilam claimed he did, the burden of proof is on him. Now do you have something to add here?

Oh, I'm sorry. Prove you live near the hood. Prove any of the claims you've made here.


Actually,what are you even arguing?

What do you want? Me to go outside and take pictures? Video Tape? And why don't you go have zilam and the other guy prove their claims? Hmmm?



I don't even care anymore. I am tired of people like Zilam and Oni baiting me and poking me with a stick and making unbacked claims and pretending they know me when they don't.

you still haven't proved how I am baiting you?

EXACTLY!! And it's not like I've never been to the Heights, my dad worked there for nearly twenty years. We picked him up from work all the time. And since no one busted a cap in my pasty white ass (and let's face it, my pasty white ass makes a nice, big target), I'm going to have to assume that no one wanted to bust a cap in it. And that I can drive down the main drag in that part of town without getting shot. Or having someone force drugs through my window. Or, you know, having a black man force himself on me in a fit of uncontrolled lust (because six-foot tall Dutch women induce uncontrolled lust in black men...) :rolleyes:

wait, you're a chick too> Holy shiite! We have a flood of women on NS! When did this happen?!

Oh, I'm sorry. Prove you live near the hood. Prove any of the claims you've made here.


Actually,what are you even arguing?

What do you want? Me to go outside and take pictures? Video Tape? And why don't you go have zilam and the other guy prove their claims? Hmmm?



I don't even care anymore. I am tired of people like Zilam and Oni baiting me and poking me with a stick and making unbacked claims and pretending they know me when they don't.

My mom now a days acts all strange. Its funny how making more money and being able to live in a bettere neighborhood changes someone. She'll do the "roll up the window, lock the door, and turn down the music" bit. It makes me giggle to see her so paranoid. I'm like mom, we used to live here. If they wanted to cap us, they would have a long time ago.:p

EXACTLY!! And it's not like I've never been to the Heights, my dad worked there for nearly twenty years. We picked him up from work all the time. And since no one busted a cap in my pasty white ass (and let's face it, my pasty white ass makes a nice, big target), I'm going to have to assume that no one wanted to bust a cap in it. And that I can drive down the main drag in that part of town without getting shot. Or having someone force drugs through my window. Or, you know, having a black man force himself on me in a fit of uncontrolled lust (because six-foot tall Dutch women induce uncontrolled lust in black men...) :rolleyes:

What do you want? Me to go outside and take pictures? Video Tape? And why don't you go have zilam and the other guy prove their claims? Hmmm?
I don't even care anymore. I am tired of people like Zilam and Oni baiting me and poking me with a stick and making unbacked claims and pretending they know me when they don't.*pokes UnHoly Smite with a sharp pointy stick*


Sorry kid, you bring it upon yourself...:p

Here are some photos of my old neighborhood. Not the best quality, but they show the squaller of an area I called home. I'll take pictures of a drug deal or smething if that you make you shut up Unholy

Don't call me junior. I bet I am older than you. And no I don't bring it on myself. You guys do it just to annoy people. I was not the one baiting here, that was all you and the others.

We are? (http://www.pastfoundation.org/DeepWrecks/images/Baiting%20traps%20with%20squid.JPG)

*pokes UnHoly Smite with a sharp pointy stick*


Sorry kid, you bring it upon yourself...:p



Don't call me junior. I bet I am older than you. And no I don't bring it on myself. You guys do it just to annoy people. I was not the one baiting here, that was all you and the others.

Woman, thank you. And not only that, I'm a gamer! Hey, where in southern IL are you? I went to SEMO...

A place called Mt. Vernon. Its north of SIU-C and about 90 miles east of STL.

wait, you're a chick too> Holy shiite! We have a flood of women on NS! When did this happen?!

Woman, thank you. And not only that, I'm a gamer! Hey, where in southern IL are you? I went to SEMO...

Ah, 'tis a lovely place. We drove through there the first time we went down to Cape Girardeau. Before we figured out that the Uni added about an hour to the drive so we wouldn't drive through 'the bad areas' around Cape. And that the old Cape bridge was the scariest drive I've ever had on a man-made structure. Crossing at St Louis makes a lot more sense when you're coming from MI.

Yeah, Cape is a rough place. I love this area though. It is the best place in the state :p

EDIT: Okay, maybe we didn't drive through there. I know I went there at some point... Maybe with an Historic Preservation class? Jeesh, not even thirty and the memory's going...

Wait, did you travel through Mt. Vernon specifically?

Don't call me junior. I bet I am older than you. So you're a grandfather too? And I didn't call you junior, I called you 'kid'.
And no I don't bring it on myself. You guys do it just to annoy people. I was not the one baiting here, that was all you and the others
Welcome to NSG kid.

A place called Mt. Vernon. Its north of SIU-C and about 90 miles east of STL.

Ah, 'tis a lovely place. We drove through there the first time we went down to Cape Girardeau. Before we figured out that the Uni added about an hour to the drive so we wouldn't drive through 'the bad areas' around Cape. And that the old Cape bridge was the scariest drive I've ever had on a man-made structure. Crossing at St Louis makes a lot more sense when you're coming from MI.

EDIT: Okay, maybe we didn't drive through there. I know I went there at some point... Maybe with an Historic Preservation class? Jeesh, not even thirty and the memory's going...

Ah, 'tis a lovely place. We drove through there the first time we went down to Cape Girardeau. Before we figured out that the Uni added about an hour to the drive so we wouldn't drive through 'the bad areas' around Cape. And that the old Cape bridge was the scariest drive I've ever had on a man-made structure. Crossing at St Louis makes a lot more sense when you're coming from MI.



I wish south central was lovely...But it's a shithole in my view.

I wish south central was lovely...But it's a shithole in my view.

South central... LA? Illinois? Muskegon? Detroit? /me is confoozed...

What do you want? Me to go outside and take pictures? Video Tape? And why don't you go have zilam and the other guy prove their claims? Hmmm?
What claims have tthey made that they have not backed up?



I don't even care anymore. I am tired of people like Zilam and Oni baiting me and poking me with a stick and making unbacked claims and pretending they know me when they don't.

So, you started ranting about....something and now you're annoyed because people are calling you on it and "pretending they know [you]". I don't see where you get off being annoyed, you've been agressive towards everyone in this thread for no apparent reason.

So you're a grandfather too? And I didn't call you junior, I called you 'kid'.

Welcome to NSG kid.


...Ooops. Don't call me kid. If you are going to look down on me, look at someone else.

Yeah, Cape is a rough place. I love this area though. It is the best place in the state :p

Cape itself isn't so bad, at lest not the areas around the Uni (of course, this was ten years ago, it may have gone downhill since). They have (had?) an amazing Cajun place called Broussards... Mmmmm, chicken etoufee... And Lamberts, that's maybe half an hour west of Cape. Good, down home American food, and they throw your rolls to you... Damn, I miss throwed rolls. Don't miss being in the South all that much (what with being called a damnYankee by a Yooper), but I do miss that food.

South central... LA? Illinois? Muskegon? Detroit? /me is confoozed...



South Central Los Angeles...I am in California.

Wait, did you travel through Mt. Vernon specifically?

I'm pretty sure I did, at some point. Or maybe stopped there whilst on the way somewhere else? With an HP class? See what I mean about the memory going? Wait, is that where my anth prof lived? No, her hubby taught at SIU, they lived in Carbondale...

South Central Los Angeles...I am in California.

Ah... Never been there. Once heard an uninformed moron compare the Heights to South Central. I laughed!!!

I'm pretty sure I did, at some point. Or maybe stopped there whilst on the way somewhere else? With an HP class? See what I mean about the memory going? Wait, is that where my anth prof lived? No, her hubby taught at SIU, they lived in Carbondale...


Well if you came down Interstate 57, you'd come right through us. That's actually why we have a big problem, because it connects Chicago to places like Cape, and Memphis. Lots of drugs flowing through.

Ah... Never been there. Once heard an uninformed moron compare the Heights to South Central. I laughed!!!



Consider yourself lucky.

Consider yourself lucky.

Oh, I do. Believe me, I do. I love Muskegon. Of course it would be better if the damn woodpecker would shut the hell up! But, hey, if annoying woodpeckers are the worst part of living here, I am pretty damn lucky.

South Central Los Angeles...I am in California.

L.A. is the least segregated of the top ten most populous cities in the U.S... if you want to see segregation, visit Chicago or New York first.

Our rapid population growth out here (L.A. went from 50,000 people to 3 million in 50 years) had people rushing in in a disorganized way, settling where they could rather than in ethnic neighborhoods. We have more gang violence per capita than other major cities, but we're more intermixed, ethnically.

Also, it's "South L.A." now, not South Central, remember.. :p You don't want to offend, I'm sure.

I call it south central, just like my father did. How is that going to offend anyone?

It offends the pedantry!

Like my father did? I have always found that a strange concept, as if because the older generation done it, it is better.

My Dad used to call any Asians, Paki, should I then carry on that tradition?

L.A. is the least segregated of the top ten most populous cities in the U.S... if you want to see segregation, visit Chicago or New York first.

Our rapid population growth out here (L.A. went from 50,000 people to 3 million in 50 years) had people rushing in in a disorganized way, settling where they could rather than in ethnic neighborhoods. We have more gang violence per capita than other major cities, but we're more intermixed, ethnically.

Also, it's "South L.A." now, not South Central, remember.. :p You don't want to offend, I'm sure.


I call it south central, just like my father did. How is that going to offend anyone?

...Ooops. Don't call me kid. If you are going to look down on me, look at someone else.At my age, I get to call most of those here 'kid', live with it, it's not an insult, it's just that I have children as old as most posters here. If I look down on you, it's not because of your age, you'll just have to live with that too.

I call it south central, just like my father did. How is that going to offend anyone?

I wasn't being serious.. I'm sure most people still call it South-Central. It's just un-PC nowadays, since the official namechange. ;) If you're not a politician or on t.v., you can call it whatever you like.

For anyone who doesn't remember:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2969645.stm

L.A.'s brilliant city council at work. :p

At my age, I get to call most of those here 'kid', live with it, it's not an insult, it's just that I have children as old as most posters here. If I look down on you, it's not because of your age, you'll just have to live with that too.

Heh I was realting to my wife and kids a tale of my working day yesterday, I happend to call a younger colegue son. My youngest said but you're not his dad, dad.

I had to explain that it is also a friendly term that an older man can use to a younger man.

At my age, I get to call most of those here 'kid', live with it, it's not an insult, it's just that I have children as old as most posters here. If I look down on you, it's not because of your age, you'll just have to live with that too.


Go look at someone else then.

It offends the pedantry!

Like my father did? I have always found that a strange concept, as if because the older generation done it, it is better.

My Dad used to call any Asians, Paki, should I then carry on that tradition?


My father was Black and was born in Los Angeles and lived there for decades, if it didn't bother him why should it bother me? It's not a racist term, it's just an area.

My father was Black and was born in Los Angeles and lived there for decades, if it didn't bother him why should it bother me? It's not a racist term, it's just an area.

Man you totaly missed the point then huh?

The point was, just coz ya dad did/does it, don't make it right or good.

I wasn't being serious.. I'm sure most people still call it South-Central. It's just un-PC nowadays, since the official namechange. ;) If you're not a politician or on t.v., you can call it whatever you like.

For anyone who doesn't remember:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2969645.stm

L.A.'s brilliant city council at work. :p



Well thats stupid. I will still call it south central, you can erase something that easy.

"So, what does the name of a part of LA have to do with an integrated prom in Georgia? Surely this is madness?" I hear you ask. Madness?

THIS IS GENERAL!

"So, what does the name of a part of LA have to do with an integrated prom in Georgia? Surely this is madness?" I hear you ask. Madness?

THIS IS GENERAL!

Eh.. segregation is the common thread. Of course, LA is almost all Mexican today, and South-Central is 2/3 Mexican. L.A.'s never been very segregated, and in twenty years, you won't know the difference between it and Tijuana. :p

Man you totaly missed the point then huh?

The point was, just coz ya dad did/does it, don't make it right or good.



IT'S JUST AN AREA!!! Jeez. There is nothing wrong with it. It's not a racist term, it doesn't even mean or hint at a race! It's just a FREAKING part of LA. Why be bothered by it?

Eh.. segregation is the common thread. Of course, LA is almost all Mexican today, and South-Central is 2/3 Mexican. L.A.'s never been very segregated, and in twenty years, you won't know the difference between it and Tijuana. :pWell except for the donkey shows...

IT'S JUST AN AREA!!! Jeez. There is nothing wrong with it. It's not a racist term, it doesn't even mean or hint at a race! It's just a FREAKING part of LA. Why be bothered by it?

Sheesh I aint botherd at all. Heh but you still missed the point huh!

You said, 'like my father did...'

I just point out(if you bother to read the actual words I used) that I have always found that a bit strange, why do something because you dad did.

It doesn't automaticaly make it better, or right, or good. Got it now? Sheesh!
Context man, learn how to read.

Well except for the donkey shows...

Give it time.. :p

Eh.. segregation is the common thread. Of course, LA is almost all Mexican today, and South-Central is 2/3 Mexican. L.A.'s never been very segregated, and in twenty years, you won't know the difference between it and Tijuana. :p

Eh....so, not madness?


Bugger.

You might wanna work on your reading comprehension and reasoning skills.

Bwhahah but it was you that got the wrong end of the stick man, not I.

Sheesh I aint botherd at all. Heh but you still missed the point huh!

You said, 'like my father did...'

I just point out(if you bother to read the actual words I used) that I have always found that a bit strange, why do something because you dad did.

It doesn't automaticaly make it better, or right, or good. Got it now? Sheesh!
Context man, learn how to read.


You might wanna work on your reading comprehension and reasoning skills.

Give it time.. :pYeah... eventually Tijuana will catch up with the depravation of Santa Monica Blvd...

Bwhahah but it was you that got the wrong end of the stick man, not I.

Don't get it do you? No surprise.


You made it seem like just because my father called it south central doesn't make it right. Thats what you get when you try to merge topics. :D

Don't get it do you? No surprise.


You made it seem like just because my father called it south central doesn't make it right. Thats what you get when you try to merge topics. :D

No you don't get it do you.

I was engaging in some off topic talk, and the only thing that I was talking about was this idea that because the older generation does it it makes it good is a strange idea. Do yourself a favour, read back to that post that I posted, and take your own advice re: reading comprehension.

No you don't get it do you.

I was engaging in some off topic talk, and the only thing that I was talking about was this idea that because the older generation does it it makes it good is a strange idea. Do yourself a favour, read back to that post that I posted, and take your own advice re: reading comprehension.



:rolleyes:



Welcome to cluelessville..population you!


You went off topic and I was on topic, you tried to merge topics or stray off topic and failed, now you are mad. Get over it. reading comprehension, a wonderful thing, might wanna get it!


You can't get mad when you go off topic and get a answer you didn't want. Next time, stay on topic.;)

:rolleyes:



Welcome to cluelessville..population you!


You went off topic and I was on topic, you tried to merge topics or stray off topic and failed, now you are mad. Get over it. reading comprehension, a wonderful thing, might wanna get it!


You can't get mad when you go off topic and get a answer you didn't want. Next time, stay on topic.;)

Ahhh whats the point. I'm not mad BTW but you know nobody enjoys being insulted. Heh espeacily when the mistake was your own in the first place.

Ahhh whats the point. I'm not mad BTW but you know nobody enjoys being insulted. Heh espeacily when the mistake was your own in the first place.

It was your fault. Next time, stay on topic. When a person is talking about one thing, and you go off on an unrelated topic, you can't get mad when they get lost. It's your fault for doing it.


And yes, you seemed either mad or atleast annoyed.

It was your fault. Next time, stay on topic. When a person is talking about one thing, and you go off on an unrelated topic, you can't get mad when they get lost. It's your fault for doing it.


And yes, you seemed either mad or atleast annoyed.

You've been posting off topic as much as anyone in this thread, not to mention you completley hijacked the thread with that nonsense about blacks only colleges.

Oh, and lets not forget that all this talk about being off topic is off topic. In fact
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q100/TheSteveslols/offcourse-1.jpg

Don't get it? No you don't get it.
You went off topic the mistake was your own in the first place.
It was your fault.

If you kids don't knock it off, I'm gonna turn this thing right around and we can all go home!


:p

If you kids don't knock it off, I'm gonna turn this thing right around and we can all go home!


:p

You promised me Ice Cream!!! :mad:

It was your fault. Next time, stay on topic. When a person is talking about one thing, and you go off on an unrelated topic, you can't get mad when they get lost. It's your fault for doing it.


And yes, you seemed either mad or at least annoyed.

Heh ohhh yes dad I hear and obey. Stay on topic, stay on topic. Ohhh pul-ease!

Yes and I guess anybody would be anoyed to be told 'you need to work on your reading comprehension' by the berk who is clearly trying to cover for his own mistake.

Wazza matter you dad didn't teach you about context, what you couldn't tell I'd gone off topic coz you can't unnerstan' context? Ohh didums.

Bwahahahah!

If you kids don't knock it off, I'm gonna turn this thing right around and we can all go home!


:p

Heheh yes Mr Baldwin!

Been to Nevada...Didn't like it. Las Vegas actually....Porn shops on every corner. But you and half the world knew that.
Don't blame you, I'm not too fond of Vegas either.

You promised me Ice Cream!!! :mad:Well if we don't stop now, you can just blame it on the others!:D

Well if we don't stop now, you can just blame it on the others!:D

*Pssstt* man you are clearly off topic, better pack that in y'know!

*Pssstt* man you are clearly off topic, better pack that in y'know!

<_<

>_>

...um.... my chocolate and vanilla ice creams must not touch.

:)

<_<

>_>

...um.... my chocolate and vanilla ice creams must not touch.

:)They don't have chocolate, only vanilla.


But you can get it dipped.

Or with sprinkles.

Exactly! I was making this point in a thread a few months ago when someone mentioned East St. Louis. That place is known for one thing, and that is crime. White people always try to avoid it, cuz they fear getting mugged or shot or smething like that. However, anytime I goto St. Louis, I usually stop in E. Stl to get fuel or whatever. I go in, act normal, nod my head in a friendly way, and just be polite. Its like when you come across a snake(this isn't the best explanation, but oh well). Normally, if you act normal and walk away, it will be okay. But if you sit there and poke ate it, or act in a way that it deems dangerous, it will attack you. I am not saying that people from poor areas are reptiles, just saying its a similar nature. You don't do anything stupid, and you show respect, you will be ok. But when you act stupid and all that crap, you will see hostility.

Ahh! Facts! Alert the mods! :eek:

But seriously, I've had similar experiences. I can remember once in college, a friend and I stopped at a grocery store on the southeast side of Raleigh, NC (not the nice side of town, for those of you who don't know Raleigh.) I noticed that my friend was looking around nervously, but I couldn't figure out why. Finally I asked, "What's wrong?" And he answered: "Do you realize we're the only white people in this store?"

No, I hadn't noticed. Nor did I care. Nor did anyone else in the store; everyone else had been friendly to us, and I didn't feel the least bit threatened.

I now live in Durham, one of the most racially diverse cities in North Carolina. My nice middle-class neighborhood is fully integrated - about 50% white, 40% black, the rest Hispanic or Asian. I like it that way. But some of my friends - hell, some of my own family - say they would never live in a neighborhood like mine, because of all the crime. Crime? There's less crime in my neighborhood than in my dad's 90%-white neighborhood in Charlotte. But they assume that a neighborhood with so many blacks and hispanics must be crime-ridden. It isn't. Sure, we lock our doors at night - it's a city, after all. But if it was as bad as some of my friends think it is, I certainly wouldn't allow my son to grow up here.

Actually, the one place I've really felt uncomfortable was in an all-white trailer park east of Knightdale, NC. There were some guys with some serious anger management issues in that hell-hole. And they felt it was all the fault of blacks and of long-haired "libruls" like me. Go figure.

(BTW, the thread is now un-hijacked.) :D

(BTW, the thread is now un-hijacked.) :D

Dishonorable Scum? Seems like you gon did the 'onorable thing, yep!

Actually, the one place I've really felt uncomfortable was in an all-white trailer park east of Knightdale, NC. There were some guys with some serious anger management issues in that hell-hole. And they felt it was all the fault of blacks and of long-haired "libruls" like me. Go figure.
Yeah, the trailer parks and white trash neighborhoods scare me as much as the back alley hoods.
Racists are all the same: stupid and violent.

They don't have chocolate, only vanilla.


But you can get it dipped.

Or with sprinkles.

Racist! Ice Cream Racism! http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/ranting.gif

Ahh! Facts! Alert the mods! :eek:



NO! don't tell the mods! I'll be deated if i get in any more trouble -sobs-

Whoop dee doo...

Whoop dee doo...

:cool:

And before you start trashing me for blaming it all on the whites, please note that a seperate, 'unofficial' whites only prom was still held a couple of weeks before the official school prom.

SO they worked towards a goal they wanted, worked for what they wanted, worked.


Funny thing, the blacks didn't feel that they needed to anymore...

So they finally got it for free so they didnt want to work anymore.



These are the jokes people, just kidding, just kidding.

:cool:
Is that you Ruffy?:p

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q100/TheSteveslols/spammers0mr.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q100/TheSteveslols/spammers0mr.jpg
I thought it had been brought back on topic apparently.:eek:

I thought it had been brought back on topic apparently.:eek:

Lies.

Lies.
No it is true, i really believed it and there was an ontopic post recently.

I am a racist and this even bothers me.

I am a racist and this even bothers me.

...

...go on...

I do not think that a high school prom should be segregated. I do not mind if there is a white's only or blacks only unofficial prom, but the school itself should have a prom for all the students that want to attend regardless of race. Our public institutions should be color blind.

I do not see anything harmful about black couples and white couples dancing in the same room. Call me a lefty bleeding heart if you will, but I just do not see the problem.

And before you start trashing me for blaming it all on the whites, please note that a seperate, 'unofficial' whites only prom was still held a couple of weeks before the official school prom.

Funny thing, the blacks didn't feel that they needed to anymore...

Uppity niggers.

Of course they didn't need to anymore...what they clearly wanted all along was to put their filthy hands on pure, white flesh.

Of course they didn't need to anymore...what they clearly wanted all along was to put their filthy hands on pure, white flesh.

Is there even such a thing as a pure white ?

Is there even such a thing as a pure white ?

I'm the wrong person to ask, being a mud person.

Aren't you part Cree? Wouldn't that make you...a clay person? Going on likely skin colors?

:D

Note: I'm brown, take it easy.

Hahaha, well, if you go with red clay and not grey clay...

But you know that the the kind of folk who call others 'mud people' don't have the ability to really distinguish between the non-white colours.

I'm the wrong person to ask, being a mud person.

Aren't you part Cree? Wouldn't that make you...a clay person? Going on likely skin colors?

:D

Note: I'm brown, take it easy.

Is there even such a thing as a pure white ?

I think that would be me: Mostly Dutch, with English, Irish, and Norwegian mixed in for good measure. I am so white, I glow in the dark. I burn if I evenlook at the sun. My nieces and nephews, however, will be half white and half african. Nothing cuter than biracial babies.

It is interesting to note that it was the students who provided the initial impetus for a desegregated prom, not any adults.

The young tend to be more apt to seek new ways of doing things, for better or worse.

The young tend to be more apt to seek new ways of doing things, for better or worse.

We call that "innovation."

:rolleyes: You never cease to amaze me.


Try going into those hoods and see what happens white boy.

I go into black neighborhoods often. Got friends there. I don't get hassled by the folks that live there. Also black universities do accept white people.

Try going into those hoods and see what happens white boy.

What is that supposed to mean? A pathetic attempt to justify segregation because teh blackz mess wit da whites in the hood?

Oh an my white friend goes to Morgan down south. You know, the black only school.