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"The training involves pulling stones or lead weights tied to the bug's back or running around an obstacle course to help with their ability to think."

Brilliant!

Bug thinks "What the f**k am I doing?"

EDIT: I'm in ur threadz, stealing ur positionz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect_fighting

Is it wrong to force insects to fight to the death for human entertainment? I say no. Insects are killed all the time, why should it be wrong for it to be for entertainment?

The actual training requires much time, effort and money from the owners, so to encourage more participation, spectators and owners can gamble on their own and other insects. Profitting from unnecessary pain is a violation of the Animal Exploitationi Acts.

Is betting on it wrong? I also would say no. Not any more than regular betting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect_fighting

Is it wrong to force insects to fight to the death for human entertainment? I say no. Insects are killed all the time, why should it be wrong for it to be for entertainment?



Is betting on it wrong? I also would say no. Not any more than regular betting.

Well, people die all the time, and so do other animals, so should we allow them to fight to the death for entertainment?

Well, it's rather childish. I can't imagine too many adults would be at all interested.

It's considered Ok by most people to kill insects because they are pests. Why not for entertainment?

Like I said, because it's childish.

Well, people die all the time, and so do other animals, so should we allow them to fight to the death for entertainment?

It's considered Ok by most people to kill insects because they are pests. Why not for entertainment?

Well, people die all the time, and so do other animals, so should we allow them to fight to the death for entertainment?

If people consented to fights to the death, I wouldn't object.

It's considered Ok by most people to kill insects because they are pests. Why not for entertainment?

Same for humans in many places around the world.

Given the choice, as an insect, between scrubbing out my natural life with a very low chance of dying peacefully in my sleep or eating steak and eggs every day with a fight that I'd likely have in nature anyway, I'll order over easy on the eggs please.

Having said that, I've seen cockfighting in the Philippines and would rather not come back as a rooster thanks, it crosses the boundaries of cruel and unnecessary.

Last I checked, insects weren't animals. Am I wrong about this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect_fighting

Is it wrong to force insects to fight to the death for human entertainment? I say no. Insects are killed all the time, why should it be wrong for it to be for entertainment?



Is betting on it wrong? I also would say no. Not any more than regular betting.

Interesting. I mean dog fighting, or cock(the male chickens, you dirty lot) fight I would say noooooo, to, but insects *shrug* bottom of the food chain and all that!

Last I checked, insects weren't animals. Am I wrong about this one?

Yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal

This thread needs video....

Last I checked, insects weren't animals. Am I wrong about this one?

Animals and insects are both in the Animalia kingdom.

I'd bet on it. :p

One of my old entymology professors made some money at it.. it's a perfectly legitimate enterprise in my book. Of course, he cheated at it, but that's neither here nor there.

Well, people die all the time, and so do other animals, so should we allow them to fight to the death for entertainment?

Yes.

Last I checked, insects weren't animals. Am I wrong about this one?

Ahh! I just had a flashback to yesterday's "Catholics aren't Christians!" thread! Ahh! :eek:

So what do you think insects are, plants? Or some kind of walking fungi?

Yes.

Ok, fair enough :p

Ok, fair enough :p

I bet Charles Manson would be a hell of a good cage fighter!

So... how do you cheat at insect fighting? Insect steroids? Fertilizers? Use insects from Central Illinois?

Midgets in insect costumes

I'd bet on it. :p

One of my old entymology professors made some money at it.. it's a perfectly legitimate enterprise in my book. Of course, he cheated at it, but that's neither here nor there.

So... how do you cheat at insect fighting? Insect steroids? Fertilizers? Use insects from Central Illinois?

I bet Charles Manson would be a hell of a good cage fighter!

He'd probably get someone else to fight for him, silly :)

Well, people die all the time, and so do other animals, so should we allow them to fight to the death for entertainment?

Yes.

So... how do you cheat at insect fighting? Insect steroids? Fertilizers? Use insects from Central Illinois?

You from central illinois? The bugs there are small and puny. Nothing compared to the beastly insects of Southern Illinois.

So... how do you cheat at insect fighting? Insect steroids? Fertilizers? Use insects from Central Illinois?

He did it by transporting fighting beetles from Indonesia to Vietnam.. the Indonesian variety was basically the same species, but was something like 30% larger, giving it the fighting edge.

In theory, other 'trainers' could have done the same, but the expense would have been more than the winnings. My professor didn't have any travel expenses, as they were paid by the university, so he could transport the superior beetles at no cost to himself, and with no questions asked, due to his certifications as an entymologist, though I can't recall whether the beetle was CITES-protected or not.

This thread needs video....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3APJA0EedSE

At the very least, this video is wrong.

You from central illinois? The bugs there are small and puny. Nothing compared to the beastly insects of Southern Illinois.

Oh, somewhere like that. I was driving through Illinois from St Louis to get to Chicago. I hit a small, boneless bird... oh, thats not a bird. Left quite a mess, and I'm sure it was Central Illinois. If your insects are bigger, remind me not to ever go there.

Ah, found a good picture of the beetles my old professor used to fight.. it's supposedly quite exciting.. :p

http://www.ecologyasia.com/news-archives/2001/jan-01/060101_lens.jpg

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgZDxwLYHTk&NR=1">Tarantula vs Scorpion</a>

I know, they're arachnids. Close enough. Kinda unfair, you know what's going to win. BTW, Tarantulas are very fragile. you drop them, they shatter.

Tarantulas are very fragile. you drop them, they shatter.


Damn, but I'm glad to hear that.

Umm living as I do in SE London, where tarantulas are umm quite native and wild!

Damn, but I'm glad to hear that.

Umm living as I do in SE London, where tarantulas are umm quite native and wild!

Well, an Italian plumber from japan also teaches a valuable lesson on how to deal with six and eight-legged demons.

Well, an Italian plumber from japan also teaches a valuable lesson on how to deal with six and eight-legged demons.

Well true, I guess the world really is getting smaller.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/life/dn9788-single-gene-turns-fruit-flies-into-fighters.html

Ahh! I just had a flashback to yesterday's "Catholics aren't Christians!" thread! Ahh! :eek:

So what do you think insects are, plants? Or some kind of walking fungi?

Well, duh. They aren't? :confused: :eek:

Though, to be honest, I thought of insects as being, well, insects. Like spiders are arachnids. But I suppose that goes into a greater detail area than merely animal.

Insect fighting sounds about as exciting as watching insects fucking.

Somehow, it's just hard to excited about arthropods.

Unless they're invading your kitchen.