NationStates Jolt Archive


Emigration

The blessed Chris
23-04-2007, 22:29
In essence, ladies and gentleman, I want to emigrate after university. The reasons behind this intention are manifold, and, to any regulars, self-evident. However, the fact stands that, in seeking to emigrate, primarily to Ireland, I have not got a bloody clue where to start. Having attempted that generally impeccable of sources; google, I am flummoxed, and hence am asking you. Where should I write or go, and at what juncture, if I seek to emigrate in my early 20's?
Neo Undelia
23-04-2007, 22:33
I thought you didn't like immigrants?

Only the brown ones. They steal and don't love Jesus the right way or something.
Fleckenstein
23-04-2007, 22:34
Lemme grasp this fully: you plan to leave a culture you believe needs to be to cleansed of impurities to become an impurity in another culture?
Philosopy
23-04-2007, 22:34
I thought you didn't like immigrants?
Arinola
23-04-2007, 22:38
Emigrating will do you know good. The whole world's going to shit, why bother?
PsychoticDan
23-04-2007, 22:41
Go to the embassy sites of the places you might like to emigrate to. i was on a similar quest after dear old W got reelected and now I get all kinds of email from Australia and New Zealand.

Ireland: http://www.irelandemb.org/

Look around. Be careful, though. Ireland will probably be an Islamic state in 30 years.
The Infinite Dunes
23-04-2007, 22:58
... If you desire to emigrate to Ireland then the wonders of the EU (well not really, I'm pretty sure there was some other treaty-crap going on before hand), allow you to simply hop on a ferry, find yourself a B&B and then start job-hunting and flat-hunting. And if it all goes to pot you can simply hop back on a ferry to the Mainland UK and claim some benefits whilst you get back on your feet.
Psychotic Mongooses
23-04-2007, 23:05
... If you desire to emigrate to Ireland then the wonders of the EU ..... you can simply hop back on a ferry to the Mainland UK and claim some benefits whilst you get back on your feet.

Please don't use that term.
Infinite Revolution
23-04-2007, 23:07
Please don't use that term.

o_0 there are parts of the UK that are not on the main island you know?
The blessed Chris
23-04-2007, 23:07
... If you desire to emigrate to Ireland then the wonders of the EU (well not really, I'm pretty sure there was some other treaty-crap going on before hand), allow you to simply hop on a ferry, find yourself a B&B and then start job-hunting and flat-hunting. And if it all goes to pot you can simply hop back on a ferry to the Mainland UK and claim some benefits whilst you get back on your feet.

Fair enough. :)
Psychotic Mongooses
23-04-2007, 23:10
o_0 there are parts of the UK that are not on the main island you know?

No, it's not that. It's complicated, and I've come across too many people who say it without thinking. It's like someone calling a Canadian an American. (American meaning USian).

Just.... trust me. :)
The Infinite Dunes
23-04-2007, 23:13
Please don't use that term.Why not? Do live in in NI, the Isle of Man, Guernsey or Jersey, and get offended by the term mainland because you feel it belittles your relevance?
The blessed Chris
23-04-2007, 23:16
Why not? Do live in in NI, the Isle of Man, Guernsey or Jersey, and get offended by the term mainland because you feel it belittles your relevance?

What relevance?:D

Have they actually done anything of significance, ever?
Psychotic Mongooses
23-04-2007, 23:18
Why not? Do live in in NI, the Isle of Man, Guernsey or Jersey, and get offended by the term mainland because you feel it belittles your relevance?

No, I'm not saying that at all. No need to get all uppity about it. I'm merely giving my experience of some appalling faux pas on the parts on several English people (note I say English, not British) and they have had tendency to speak without thinking.

Like I said, it is equatable to calling a Canadian an American or an Kiwi an Aussie. I'm just sayin', if he was to emigrate to Ireland - saying "I'm going back to the Mainland" wouldn't be the smartest move.
Infinite Revolution
23-04-2007, 23:36
No, I'm not saying that at all. No need to get all uppity about it. I'm merely giving my experience of some appalling faux pas on the parts on several English people (note I say English, not British) and they have had tendency to speak without thinking.

Like I said, it is equatable to calling a Canadian an American or an Kiwi an Aussie. I'm just sayin', if he was to emigrate to Ireland - saying "I'm going back to the Mainland" wouldn't be the smartest move.

yes i can see that, but the term itself is a perfectly reasonable one.
Forsakia
23-04-2007, 23:39
Ah, you wish to support a sporting team that wins something more than once a century. The US is good in that it always wins where almost no-one else competes, but other than that Australia's the place to go to seek cheap reflected sporting glory.
Psychotic Mongooses
23-04-2007, 23:41
yes i can see that, but the term itself is a perfectly reasonable one.
*shrugs*

Meh. They're his testicles. :D
Infinite Revolution
23-04-2007, 23:46
*shrugs*

Meh. They're his testicles. :D

heh, well if anyone round here is gong to make that sort of gaff it's probably going to be our chris, the imperialist.
The Infinite Dunes
24-04-2007, 00:16
No, I'm not saying that at all. No need to get all uppity about it. I'm merely giving my experience of some appalling faux pas on the parts on several English people (note I say English, not British) and they have had tendency to speak without thinking.

Like I said, it is equatable to calling a Canadian an American or an Kiwi an Aussie. I'm just sayin', if he was to emigrate to Ireland - saying "I'm going back to the Mainland" wouldn't be the smartest move.I'll get uppity all I want if you simply just post a terse statement telling me not to express myself a certain way. :p

Besides, I qualified the term with the 'UK' part. I said mainland UK as getting a ferry to NI would be rather pointless. I'd be quicker and cheaper to go by car/bus.

heh, well if anyone round here is gong to make that sort of gaff it's probably going to be our chris, the imperialist.I think he was refering to my testicles... :confused:
Infinite Revolution
24-04-2007, 00:25
I'll get uppity all I want if you simply just post a terse statement telling me not to express myself a certain way. :p

Besides, I qualified the term with the 'UK' part. I said mainland UK as getting a ferry to NI would be rather pointless. I'd be quicker and cheaper to go by car/bus.

I think he was refering to my testicles... :confused:

oh!... really? okay then...

well, i can still imagine the blessed chris making that gaff anyway.
Bubabalu
24-04-2007, 00:45
Best thing to do is go to the Official Irish Government web site. From there, you can follow the FAQ's that deal with naturalization, and other immigration issues. The link for Irish Department of Foreign Affairs-Citizenship is http://www.dfa.ie/home/index.aspx?id=267.

This way, you can get the information you need straight from the horse's mouth.

Vic
Philosopy
24-04-2007, 09:36
So, I have to ask, what exactly is it that makes you think the Irish would want you, and why do you think you'd be better off over there?
Compulsive Depression
24-04-2007, 10:37
Where should I write or go, and at what juncture, if I seek to emigrate in my early 20's?

1) Get on a boat.

2) Go West, where the air is clear.

3) When you hit land, get off the boat and go and do stuff.

If you should go past a big, pointy statue, and wind up with lots of people wandering around in loud clothing saying "y'all", you've gone too far. Similarly if you wind up with lots of people in sombreros speaking Spanish and eating chili (note only one "L"). Ideally you should see lots of people eating potatoes, and when you ask for directions you should get the response "Now, if you want to get to there, I wouldn't be starting from here, now".
The Infinite Dunes
24-04-2007, 12:19
1) Get on a boat.

2) Go West, where the air is clear.

3) When you hit land, get off the boat and go and do stuff.

If you should go past a big, pointy statue, and wind up with lots of people wandering around in loud clothing saying "y'all", you've gone too far. Similarly if you wind up with lots of people in sombreros speaking Spanish and eating chili (note only one "L"). Ideally you should see lots of people eating potatoes, and when you ask for directions you should get the response "Now, if you want to get to there, I wouldn't be starting from here, now".*oggles you* you didn't just quote the Pet Shop Boys did you?
Sandkasten
24-04-2007, 12:23
Go to the embassy sites of the places you might like to emigrate to. i was on a similar quest after dear old W got reelected and now I get all kinds of email from Australia and New Zealand.

Ireland: http://www.irelandemb.org/

Look around. Be careful, though. Ireland will probably be an Islamic state in 30 years.

Islamic??? Why? Are all the Poles converting all of a sudden?
Psychotic Mongooses
24-04-2007, 12:30
I think he was refering to my testicles... :confused:
No no. I was refering to Chris'. :D

Islamic??? Why? Are all the Poles converting all of a sudden?

It's a gigantic fear of his of any country having a sizable population of Muslims.

To be honest, I have to agree with Philosopy. What makes him think Ireland is any better off than England? Strange kid that one.
Quintessence of Dust
24-04-2007, 12:31
In my intellectualisation, one's transmigration should plainly be commenced following scrupulous and fastidious considerations of the logistical lexicon in which one is operating. In this instance, it would exist as my estimation that Erris Head would make for a valiant anchorage of disembarkation, owing to its relative deprivation of proximity from London.
Ifreann
24-04-2007, 12:43
So, I have to ask, what exactly is it that makes you think the Irish would want you, and why do you think you'd be better off over there?

We have a place for him in Dublin Zoo :p
The Infinite Dunes
24-04-2007, 12:44
No no. I was refering to Chris'. :DOh, okay then.

In my intellectualisation, one's transmigration should plainly be commenced following scrupulous and fastidious considerations of the logistical lexicon in which one is operating. In this instance, it would exist as my estimation that Erris Head would make for a valiant anchorage of disembarkation, owing to its relative deprivation of proximity from London.Sweet Jesus, Joseph and Mary. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be in the same room with you and tBC when you were having a conversation. It would be like... you two must just figure that you're making your keyboard last longer by not using your space bar so much.
Quintessence of Dust
24-04-2007, 12:45
Sweet Jesus, Joseph and Mary. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be in the same room with you and tBC when you were having a conversation. It would be like... you two must just figure that you're making your keyboard last longer by not using your space bar so much.
Well, what I meant was "Erris Head seems as far away from London as possible, so go there"; I just wrote it in his mother tongue.
Sandkasten
24-04-2007, 12:47
It's a gigantic fear of his of any country having a sizable population of Muslims.

To be honest, I have to agree with Philosopy. What makes him think Ireland is any better off than England? Strange kid that one.

I guess that depends on what you would call "sizeable"...
Compulsive Depression
24-04-2007, 12:48
*oggles you* you didn't just quote the Pet Shop Boys did you?
>.>
<.<
Maybe...

In my intellectualisation, one's transmigration should plainly be commenced following scrupulous and fastidious considerations of the logistical lexicon in which one is operating. In this instance, it would exist as my estimation that Erris Head would make for a valiant anchorage of disembarkation, owing to its relative deprivation of proximity from London.

:eek:
Ahahaha, well done! :D
Psychotic Mongooses
24-04-2007, 12:51
I guess that depends on what you would call "sizeable"...

Anything over 4 in any given area for him.

Me? I've got no problem. I've lived beside their mosque for several years which doubled as their national association headquaters. They have a great restaurant/take away there now that I think about it....
Ifreann
24-04-2007, 12:56
He might like the west of Ireland, no muslims there.


Not much of anything there......
Sandkasten
24-04-2007, 12:57
He might like the west of Ireland, no muslims there.


Not much of anything there......

So you haven't heard of the recent sightings of sheep wearing veils, then?
The Infinite Dunes
24-04-2007, 13:17
Well, what I meant was "Erris Head seems as far away from London as possible, so go there"; I just wrote it in his mother tongue.I kinda figured you were mocking him, but your post scared me all the same.

>.>
<.<
Maybe...*googles* You're safe. Even if you meant to quote the Pet Shop Boys you quoted them wrongly, so that's okay then.
Ifreann
24-04-2007, 13:32
So you haven't heard of the recent sightings of sheep wearing veils, then?

Not out West they're not. The sheep out there are still good Jesus eating catholics.
Compulsive Depression
24-04-2007, 13:34
*googles* You're safe. Even if you meant to quote the Pet Shop Boys you quoted them wrongly, so that's okay then.

Phew, eh? *Wipes brow*
Sandkasten
24-04-2007, 13:35
Not out West they're not. The sheep out there are still good Jesus eating catholics.

That's what they'd want you to believe. Gardai recently uncovered a plot by Muslim sheep to fly a plane into the Cliffs of Moher. *nods
Ifreann
24-04-2007, 13:37
Noes! They be terrorised mah cliffs!
The Infinite Dunes
24-04-2007, 13:42
Not out West they're not. The sheep out there are still good Jesus eating catholics.I heard they were still pagan in the real west. Apparently when Saint Patrick got rid of all the snakes in Ireland it caused all the mongeese to lose their main source of food. So they started eating everyone's potatos. So what these plucky Celts decided to do was capture some of these rabid mongeese and then release them on Saint Patrick when he came round proselytising.

Phew, eh? *Wipes brow*Indeed. You should be more careful. Try quoting Gilbert and Sulivan next time.
Ifreann
24-04-2007, 13:48
I heard they were still pagan in the real west. Apparently when Saint Patrick got rid of all the snakes in Ireland it caused all the mongeese to lose their main source of food. So they started eating everyone's potatos. So what these plucky Celts decided to do was capture some of these rabid mongeese and then release them on Saint Patrick when he came round proselytising.

This is historically accurate, however there were many mongooses and only one St. Patrick, so the mongooses eventually turned on the Celts O' the West and ate them too.
Sandkasten
24-04-2007, 13:50
This is historically accurate, however there were many mongooses and only one St. Patrick, so the mongooses eventually turned on the Celts O' the West and ate them too.

Really? I heard they interbred
Ifreann
24-04-2007, 13:53
Really? I heard they interbred

A bit of both.
The Infinite Dunes
24-04-2007, 14:04
A bit of both.I didn't know the Irish were into necrophilia.

Does necrophilia count as a kink or as a fetish? [/random]
Sandkasten
24-04-2007, 14:10
I didn't know the Irish were into necrophilia.

Does necrophilia count as a kink or as a fetish? [/random]

Necrophilia? I thought the mongooses were still alive when they... you know... were looking for substitute snakes.
The Infinite Dunes
24-04-2007, 14:58
Necrophilia? I thought the mongooses were still alive when they... you know... were looking for substitute snakes.What the fuck? I don't follow your craziness at all. Speak sense man!
Ifreann
24-04-2007, 14:59
I didn't know the Irish were into necrophilia.

Does necrophilia count as a kink or as a fetish? [/random]

Only the Irish mongooses.
Carisbrooke
24-04-2007, 15:06
Back to the 'mainland UK' thing

I live in the UK, but NOT on the mainland. We Island people mistrust those who come from across the big water and think that their smelly motorways, railways and infernal elastictrickery are the tools of Beelzebub and we BURN THEM!!!

*nods
The Infinite Dunes
24-04-2007, 15:16
Back to the 'mainland UK' thing

I live in the UK, but NOT on the mainland. We Island people mistrust those who come from across the big water and think that their smelly motorways, railways and infernal elastictrickery are the tools of Beelzebub and we BURN THEM!!!

*nodsOh go fall into the sea already... bloody isle of wrighters and their chalk cliffs.
Ifreann
24-04-2007, 15:17
Back to the 'mainland UK' thing

I live in the UK, but NOT on the mainland. We Island people mistrust those who come from across the big water and think that their smelly motorways, railways and infernal elastictrickery are the tools of Beelzebub and we BURN THEM!!!

*nods

The UK is an island dear, just a bigger one than yours.
Carisbrooke
24-04-2007, 15:52
The UK is an island dear, just a bigger one than yours.

poo and piffle! We only like local people here thank you!
Cookavich
24-04-2007, 16:09
Why would you want to emigrate somewhere other than Australia?
Carisbrooke
24-04-2007, 16:12
I think Australia is a country, which is a good start. It depends on what you are looking for though, you might wish to try something completely different.
I V Stalin
24-04-2007, 17:03
Why would you want to emigrate somewhere other than Australia?
Maybe he likes beer? ;)
The Infinite Dunes
24-04-2007, 17:07
Maybe he likes beer? ;)Wouldn't it be more appropriate if he liked wine?

If he likes beer then he should move to Germany or the Czech Republic. However, I think they have a lot turks and gypos over there, so I don't think TBC would like it much.
Newer Burmecia
24-04-2007, 17:09
In essence, ladies and gentleman, I want to emigrate after university. The reasons behind this intention are manifold, and, to any regulars, self-evident. However, the fact stands that, in seeking to emigrate, primarily to Ireland, I have not got a bloody clue where to start. Having attempted that generally impeccable of sources; google, I am flummoxed, and hence am asking you. Where should I write or go, and at what juncture, if I seek to emigrate in my early 20's?
So, in order to remove yourself from immigrants, you become an immigrant. The irony is sweet. But, knowing you, I'd put yourself down for parts of Australia (preferably Queensland) where you'd get along with the locals, according to anecdotes from people I know who lived there.
Yootopia
24-04-2007, 18:27
Please don't ruin Canada, I hope to go there.

Try Australia, or some other backwater state that nobody takes seriously anymore (by the way, :p to any Aussies who might be reading this)
The Infinite Dunes
24-04-2007, 18:53
Please don't ruin Canada, I hope to go there.

Try Australia, or some other backwater state that nobody takes seriously anymore (by the way, :p to any Aussies who might be reading this)Anymore? :confused:
The Infinite Dunes
24-04-2007, 18:55
I think we scared of TBC, he hasn't replied to this thread since page one.
...
Infact, he only ever replied to me... should I feel dirty? :|
Philosopy
24-04-2007, 20:13
Back to the 'mainland UK' thing

I live in the UK, but NOT on the mainland. We Island people mistrust those who come from across the big water and think that their smelly motorways, railways and infernal elastictrickery are the tools of Beelzebub and we BURN THEM!!!

*nods

I was on the Isle of Wight a couple of weeks ago. It never ceases to amaze me that the trains there are old tube trains from the 1930s.
Philosopy
24-04-2007, 20:14
I think we scared of TBC, he hasn't replied to this thread since page one.
...
Infact, he only ever replied to me... should I feel dirty? :|

Perhaps he'd never considered the irony of his plans before he asked us?