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Isn't a heterosexual male just a lesbian trapped in a man's body?

An Arkansas man is sueing the library after his teenage sons found a book on lesbianism which caused them "many a sleepless night". The man wants $20,000. Ten large for each of his sons who saw the book. Ain't it nice to be able to do god's work by supressing any knowledge of homosexuality and make a nice profit doing it?


http://www.10news.com/news/12744140/detail.html

So, does the book turn them gay first then give them a sex change or vice versa?

I have always considered myself a lesbian trapped in a man's body *nods*

"many sleepless nights in our house."

I bet, you wankers.

"God was speaking to my heart that day" = unequivocal moron.

So the guys read a book about lesbians and "suffered" many sleepless nights.

Bet they also ran out of hand lotion in the house.

Disturbed? I think the guy is slightly misinterpreting the reaction of his sons. ;)

Isn't a heterosexual male just a lesbian trapped in a man's body?

*sigh* Some days, you get the warp. Other days, the warp gets you.

Isn't a heterosexual male just a lesbian trapped in a man's body?

I know I am. >.>

Only in America. Where knowledge is a legally actionable offense.

...they found a book about lesbians while they were searching for books about military academies..?

Now, I'm no expert in the Dewey Decimal System, but those books are nowhere near each other....:eek:

"more sensitive, more clinical approach."
isn't that a contradiction?

Adams said the book is "patently offensive and lacks any artistic, literary or scientific value," according to a letter he faxed to Mayor Bob McCaslin. He said the teenagers found it while browsing for material on military academies.
Oh noes, they learned the joys of women while looking for books about schools full of boys!

Only in America. Where knowledge is a legally actionable offense.

Ohhhh I don't know, we have our wacho's here in the UK too. Anybody remember the calls to ban baa baa black sheep from shcools?

I wonder if any of you have read the book?

I found it quite graphic, although I wouldn't fight to remove it from the shelves, I would have a talk with my kid if they checked it out of the library.... like I said it's pretty graphic.

...they found a book about lesbians while they were searching for books about military academies..?

Now, I'm no expert in the Dewey Decimal System, but those books are nowhere near each other....:eek:

I think military things are somewhere in the 300s, while sex is in the 600s. The boys must not just "accidentally" have been by the wrong shelf, but on the wrong floor on the opposite end of the library as well. How unfortunate can the little Christian darlings in spe be?

I wonder if any of you have read the book?

I found it quite graphic, although I wouldn't fight to remove it from the shelves, I would have a talk with my kid if they checked it out of the library.... like I said it's pretty graphic.

my problem isn't with the books tho...its for the man who a) wants the book banned and b) is suing not once, but twice, both for the maximum permitted by law.

If you (not you smunkee, just a general you) don't want your kids finding these books, go with them to the library...watch what they take. Otherwise, don't send them.

"many sleepless nights in our house."

I bet, you wankers.

"God was speaking to my heart that day" = unequivocal moron.

Couldn't agree more.

For a moment last night, I was on a spiritual high, and was wanting to bring all the people of the church in together, but then I read stories like these.

Oh and if God was speaking to Him, im sure he was saying something in reference to second timothy, where it states that some people of the church would be money lovers, and slanderers, and that the true Christian should stray away from them. But I guess that would require christians to read their Bible once in a while

Ohhhh I don't know, we have our wacho's here in the UK too. Anybody remember the calls to ban baa baa black sheep from shcools?

Oh dearness. Why did they want to ban that?

For a moment last night, I was on a spiritual high

If you wanted me to laugh at you, you've succeeded.

Bet they also ran out of hand lotion in the house.

That, and the noise, is probably what this fellow is suing over.

"We went through four hundred bottles of Vaseline in a month! Somethings gone wrong here! I demand reimbursement!"

I have the same issues as you, I don't tend to go in for censorship, and I think if you want to be a control freak you should start with your children first and society later (and not the other way around)

but, at the same time I am in a bad mood today and annoyed for no real reason. ;)

haha...well, I hope that you get into a better mood today. May I suggest cookies and/or chocolate? Or, perhaps, chocolate cookies? I make a pretty bangin double chocolate chip and peanut butter chip cookie

So the guys read a book about lesbians and "suffered" many sleepless nights.

Bet they also ran out of hand lotion in the house.
I know I would.

my problem isn't with the books tho...its for the man who a) wants the book banned and b) is suing not once, but twice, both for the maximum permitted by law.

If you (not you smunkee, just a general you) don't want your kids finding these books, go with them to the library...watch what they take. Otherwise, don't send them.

I have the same issues as you, I don't tend to go in for censorship, and I think if you want to be a control freak you should start with your children first and society later (and not the other way around)

but, at the same time I am in a bad mood today and annoyed for no real reason. ;)

just a general you

The word for that is "one". A highly underused pronoun it is.

haha...well, I hope that you get into a better mood today. May I suggest cookies and/or chocolate? Or, perhaps, chocolate cookies? I make a pretty bangin double chocolate chip and peanut butter chip cookie

already on it, got brownies in the oven.

however, I would like to state that I can understand how the father would be upset to find that book in his son's possession, it's def. a book written for mature lesbian women looking to learn how to spice up their sex life.

I don't think there is really much good about his reaction though.

Oh dearness. Why did they want to ban that?

*shrug* beats me, propably coz it had the word black in it?

however, I would like to state that I can understand how the father would be upset to find that book in his son's possession, it's def. a book written for mature lesbian women looking to learn how to spice up their sex life

Frankly speaking so what though? One of those kids was 16 years old. That's kinda at the point where you stop having a freakout because your kid is reading about sex.

I have the same issues as you, I don't tend to go in for censorship, and I think if you want to be a control freak you should start with your children first and society later (and not the other way around)

but, at the same time I am in a bad mood today and annoyed for no real reason. ;)

Heh yeah or better still start with the dog, and if that works out, move up to the children.

Frankly speaking so what though? One of those kids was 16 years old. That's kinda at the point where you stop having a freakout because your kid is reading about sex.
I suppose it would depend on what your values are, I wouldn't want my 16 year old reading it, but I guess I am too uptight about graphic descriptions of fisting and pictures outlining the perfect position for it.

Heh yeah or better still start with the dog, and if that works out, move up to the children.
heck, start out with the cat, that way it will never work out for them.

I have always considered myself a lesbian trapped in a man's body *nods*

ROFLMAO!

The word for that is "one". A highly underused pronoun it is.

One reason I love French is how often "on" is used. It makes it so easy to avoid that annoying and heavy passive voice.

Has anyone pointed out that the lawsuit was dismissed as baseless? It was mentioned in the article.

Has anyone pointed out that the lawsuit was dismissed as baseless? It was mentioned in the article.

Oh thank heavens.

Oh god , this thread has given me a headache! I'm going for a lay down.

One reason I love French is how often "on" is used. It makes it so easy to avoid that annoying and heavy passive voice.

"La voix passive a toujours été préferée par/de moi." :p

I think military things are somewhere in the 300s, while sex is in the 600s. The boys must not just "accidentally" have been by the wrong shelf, but on the wrong floor on the opposite end of the library as well. How unfortunate can the little Christian darlings in spe be?
I work as a page in a library. I'm 90% sure military stuff is 600-650 or so, and I think gay/lesbian books are around 300, but less sure on that.

I have some great educational DVD's on lesbianism. They come from Germany and Holland I believe. After watching them I usually get a very good nights sleep! Do you think I could get some compensation for the laundry bill for my duvet tho?:rolleyes:

I work as a page in a library. I'm 90% sure military stuff is 600-650 or so, and I think gay/lesbian books are around 300, but less sure on that.

One way or the other, that's not the point.

300 is Social Sciences and includes education, military science. 600 is technology and science including human biology.

So, I was right anyway? Why do I even doubt myself...

The word for that is "one". A highly underused pronoun it is.

You know, one has a point there ;)

I work as a page in a library. I'm 90% sure military stuff is 600-650 or so, and I think gay/lesbian books are around 300, but less sure on that.

300 is Social Sciences and includes education, military science. 600 is technology and science including human biology.

I work as a page in a library.

Well it is a small start I suppose...which book are you in?

...for a second there I was hoping all the fuss was about this book:

http://www.whitehouse.org/administration/images/sisters.jpg

Written by Mrs. Dick Cheney :) Yes, the book contains descriptions of a lesbian affair...

Has anyone pointed out that the lawsuit was dismissed as baseless? It was mentioned in the article.

Heavens no, that would be relevant information! :eek:

I work as a page in a library. I'm 90% sure military stuff is 600-650 or so, and I think gay/lesbian books are around 300, but less sure on that.
Really? What book are you in? :p

i'msosorrypleasedon'thurtme

GODDAMMIT one minute too late! :mad:

300 is Social Sciences and includes education, military science. 600 is technology and science including human biology.
Hmm.... possibly, although they are scattered all over. You can see military books in many sections. Military technology is probably the ones I was specifically thinking of. Of course, Fass is right, it's irrelevant.

Well it is a small start I suppose...which book are you in?

Nice pickup. I missed that!

Well it is a small start I suppose...which book are you in?
Huh?

Huh?

More to the point, what page # are you?

You said you were a page. Get it?
Hah! yeah, I never thought of that either - nice!:p

Huh?

You said you were a page. Get it?

More to the point, what page # are you?
It's four digits. :eek:

So basically was this schmuck trying to sue 'cos his kids were "commiting the sin of Onan" Nice try! He'll be sending writs to underwear catologues next. And god Knows what when He notices "Hustler" in the local mall!

Has anyone pointed out that the lawsuit was dismissed as baseless? It was mentioned in the article.
It was dismissed as baseless by the city's attorney rather than a judge, which indicates to me that a court hasn't heard it yet.

Has anyone pointed out that the lawsuit was dismissed as baseless? It was mentioned in the article.

No, it wasn't, at least not yet. Let's ignore the fact that the title of the article would then have to be "Dad Wanted $20k" and not "Dad Wants $20K."

However, the city's attorney dismissed Adams' claim as baseless.

The attorney was calling the lawsuit baseless. As best I know, it's up to the judge to deem a lawsuit void due to being baseless. If the attorney representing the defending party could do it.. well, there'd never be any successful lawsuits, would there?

Has anyone pointed out that the lawsuit was dismissed as baseless? It was mentioned in the article.

That is, I fear, not exactly what happened. The article states:

Adams wants the city to pay $10,000 to each of his sons. That's the maximum allowed under the Arkansas obscenity law. However, the city's attorney dismissed Adams' claim as baseless. She said the book is not pornographic

That's the city's attorney speaking, not the judge. This is the words of defense counsel. This is not a JUDGE saying this, merely opposing counsel, who is basically saying the lawsuit is meritless, to which I agree. However, while I would LOVE to dismiss an oppositional claim by simply stating it worthless, it does not work that way.

The city's attorney is defense counsel, she's saying the claim is ludicrus, and is "dismissing" it, as in, basically calling it worthless. The case, however, is not dismissed in a legal sense. Opposing counsel can't do that.

If the attorney representing the defending party could do it.. well, there'd never be any successful lawsuits, would there?

Speaking as an attorney...boy would it be fun just for a day.

...they found a book about lesbians while they were searching for books about military academies..?

Now, I'm no expert in the Dewey Decimal System, but those books are nowhere near each other....:eek: unless the book was mis-shelved by another patron.

however, it seems that they (Mr. Adams) is only against that particular book. and it appears that the library board agress about that particular book.
The library's advisory board voted earlier this month to remove the book from circulation. Board member George Spence said he found the book crude, but said it could be replaced with one taking a "more sensitive, more clinical approach."

but 10,000 each? I don't thinks so... I think he just needs to sit down and discuss this with his sons.

Sorry, but that's a misuse of the pronoun. "One" is for use when one is not referring to a specific person.

Unless that is, one is refering to one's self?

You know, one has a point there ;)

Sorry, but that's a misuse of the pronoun. "One" is for use when one is not referring to a specific person.

Speaking as an attorney...boy would it be fun just for a day.

Would save a lot of time and aggravation :)


...would be a bitch if you were the one that filed the lawsuit though :p

unless the book was mis-shelved by another patron.

however, it seems that they (Mr. Adams) is only against that particular book. and it appears that the library board agress about that particular book.


but 10,000 each? I don't thinks so... I think he just needs to sit down and discuss this with his sons.After all it's not like the library forced them to check it out.

"honest, Dad, we wanted a book on West Point but they gave us this instead... and those pages were already stuck together when we got it..."

After all it's not like the library forced them to check it out.

"honest, Dad, we wanted a book on West Point but they gave us this instead... and those pages were already stuck together when we got it..."

*searching shelves and finds book, opens it and starts reading*
ewww... hey bro, check this out.
*shows book to brother.*
"aaa this book warped my fragile little mind!"
Father: "LAWSUIT!"

Sorry, but that's a misuse of the pronoun. "One" is for use when one is not referring to a specific person.

One never knows when one is misusing a pronoun intentionally, do you? :fluffle:

The word for that is "one". A highly underused pronoun it is.
It works, but to slightly different effect. "One" is entirely impersonal, "you" (plural, non-specific) is mostly impersonal with the effect of implicating everyone who reads it
already on it, got brownies in the oven.

however, I would like to state that I can understand how the father would be upset to find that book in his son's possession, it's def. a book written for mature lesbian women looking to learn how to spice up their sex life.

I don't think there is really much good about his reaction though.
I can understand the father being upset...at his sons. They took the book out, after all.

*searching shelves and finds book, opens it and starts reading*
ewww... hey bro, check this out.
*shows book to brother.*
"aaa this book warped my fragile little mind!"
"Let's take it home so we can 'warp our fragile little minds' more!"
Father: "LAWSUIT!"
bold added ;)

It works, but to slightly different effect. "One" is entirely impersonal, "you" (plural, non-specific) is mostly impersonal with the effect of implicating everyone who reads it

I can understand the father being upset...at his sons. They took the book out, after all.


bold added ;)

Did they actually take it home?

Maybe they thought it was a book about the Lebanese?

Did they actually take it home?
hmm...maybe not. Must have misread something earlier this morning...

Maybe they thought it was a book about the Lebanese?

"Daddy! Do all the Lebanese fist eachother?!"
"Go back to bed."

http://www.10news.com/news/12744140/detail.html
Everytime someone claims god "Spoke to them" Jesus sighs. At least I think that would be his reaction.

Everytime someone claims god "Spoke to them" Jesus sighs. At least I think that would be his reaction.

*sighs*
I certainly do.

Yep, definitely for lotion/tissue expense reimbursement.

How do you find a book on lesbian sex while searching for books about military academies?

An Arkansas man is sueing the library after his teenage sons found a book on lesbianism which caused them "many a sleepless night". The man wants $20,000. Ten large for each of his sons who saw the book. Ain't it nice to be able to do god's work by supressing any knowledge of homosexuality and make a nice profit doing it?


http://www.10news.com/news/12744140/detail.html

I imagine if people can sue over religious "influence" in one's life, then this shouldn't be much different.

How do you find a book on lesbian sex while searching for books about military academies?

If you don't understand the connection, then you probably aren't meant to. :)

I imagine if people can sue over religious "influence" in one's life, then this shouldn't be much different.

Can they? When has anyone sued a library to get copies of the bible and other religious literature taken off the shelves?

Everytime someone claims god "Spoke to them" Jesus sighs. At least I think that would be his reaction.
Everytime someone claims "God spoke to them" I wonder if they were really, REALLY listening.

An Arkansas man is sueing the library after his teenage sons found a book on lesbianism which caused them "many a sleepless night". The man wants $20,000. Ten large for each of his sons who saw the book. Ain't it nice to be able to do god's work by supressing any knowledge of homosexuality and make a nice profit doing it?


http://www.10news.com/news/12744140/detail.html

Many a sleepless night of masturbation, no doubt.

An Arkansas man is sueing the library after his teenage sons found a book on lesbianism which caused them "many a sleepless night". The man wants $20,000. Ten large for each of his sons who saw the book. Ain't it nice to be able to do god's work by supressing any knowledge of homosexuality and make a nice profit doing it?


http://www.10news.com/news/12744140/detail.html

I hope he wins his case and good for him for standing up for his beliefs. Parents have a right to protect their children from being exposed to things that they feel is wrong or that they don't want their children to know about or see.

I hope he wins his case and good for him for standing up for his beliefs. Parents have a right to protect their children from being exposed to things that they feel is wrong or that they don't want their children to know about or see.

The word you're looking for is "responsibility" not "right". He has a responsibility to parent his own kids, not a right that the state does it for him.

I hope he wins his case and good for him for standing up for his beliefs. Parents have a right to protect their children from being exposed to things that they feel is wrong or that they don't want their children to know about or see.


Then I guess they shouldn't let their kids go to the library.

Then I guess they shouldn't let their kids go to the library.

Either that or supervise their damn kids. The libraries are there to serve everyone, not just uptight religious zealots. The fact that he knocked up his wife doesn't give him the right to decide wheather or not I can read a book about hot girl on girl sex. If he wants libraries free from that kind of material I'm sure he can find them in some repressive shithole like Saudi Arabia, and I encourage him to relocate there.

Then I guess they shouldn't let their kids go to the library.

um, no. Perhaps the library shouldn't stock their selves with rubbish? And if they do, they should be far more careful about not letting it fall into the hands of children.

Many a sleepless night of masturbation, no doubt.

*agrees*
Stupid father...

I think that these make up some of the most ridiculous grounds for a lawsuit in history. 'Sleepless nights' and God speaking to him; why then, if God spoke to him, does he want money? Surely it should be enough to know that the book would be out of circulation and the person fired?

And while I cannot say I agree, I'd imagine that a book along these lines would be the find of the century for virtually all 16 year olds.

um, no. Perhaps the library shouldn't stock their selves with rubbish? And if they do, they should be far more careful about not letting it fall into the hands of children.

Libraries are filled with books. All kinds.. even ones *gasp* for knowledge. If you have a problem with the fact that libraries are intended also as learning tools on all different kinds of subjects..things you don't agree with..too bad for you.

um, no. Perhaps the library shouldn't stock their selves with rubbish? And if they do, they should be far more careful about not letting it fall into the hands of children.
Maybe parents should just supervise their god damn kids? It's not my job to suffer because you can't keep your kids out of the damn health aisle.

I hope he wins his case and good for him for standing up for his beliefs. Parents have a right to protect their children from being exposed to things that they feel is wrong or that they don't want their children to know about or see.

Ahh Shut up phony.

Isn't a heterosexual male just a lesbian trapped in a man's body?

Aren't heterosexual woman just a gay man trapped in a woman's body?
Aren't lesbians just straight men trapped in a female body?
Aren't gay men just a straight woman trapped in a man's body?

I'm going to assume what you said was a joke.

I agree with this man completely. Two teenagers with a lesbian sex book would cause quite a few sleepless nights.

If that guy is so worried about homosexuality, he should be glad the book about lesbians caused his sons "many a sleepless night." I could understand it better if it was a book about gay men or transsexuals or something. (I wouldn't like it any better, but I could understand it.)

Or is he really worried about masturbation? He should know that men need to ejaculate frequently for their health...and why would they want to ejaculate into the painted whores that go to their school? Better to wait for a nice, STD-free lesbian, wouldn't you say?

"I hope he wins his case and good for him for standing up for his beliefs. Parents have a right to protect their children from being exposed to things that they feel is wrong or that they don't want their children to know about or see."---Soviestan


So you actually support this scum? His belief is to make a profit at the expense of the tax-paying public. A right to protect his children? Since when is preventing other people from being able to do things the same as protecting his children. Hmmmmm, they must have been forced to read it by spear-wielding librarians!!!!! oh wait, nobody forced them to do anything.

Another bum abusing our court system to try and steal from others. Pathetic

Everytime someone claims "God spoke to them" I wonder if they were really, REALLY listening.

I was. He asked for gin money to help forget all those jackasses who can't hear him.

"I hope he wins his case and good for him for standing up for his beliefs. Parents have a right to protect their children from being exposed to things that they feel is wrong or that they don't want their children to know about or see."---Soviestan


So you actually support this scum? His belief is to make a profit at the expense of the tax-paying public. A right to protect his children? Since when is preventing other people from being able to do things the same as protecting his children. Hmmmmm, they must have been forced to read it by spear-wielding librarians!!!!! oh wait, nobody forced them to do anything.

Another bum abusing our court system to try and steal from others. Pathetic

$100 says Sovietstan has a massive stash of lesbian porn. Or gay porn, I could see him into gay bukkake.

$100 says Sovietstan has a massive stash of lesbian porn. Or gay porn, I could see him into gay bukkake.

Oh dear god.

And wouldn't this thread be infinitely more amusing if he had two daughters and they had been the ones to check it out?

Oh dear god.

And wouldn't this thread be infinitely more amusing if he had two daughters and they had been the ones to check it out?

Infinitely! With sons it's just a what-the-hell sort of thing.

I was. He asked for gin money to help forget all those jackasses who can't hear him.
sorry, for a being that can turn water into wine, gin won't be that much harder.

I agree with this man completely. Two teenagers with a lesbian sex book would cause quite a few sleepless nights.
and a couple of sore arms, some sticky sheets and a chaffing problem few will understand.

*agrees*
Stupid father...

I think that these make up some of the most ridiculous grounds for a lawsuit in history. 'Sleepless nights' and God speaking to him; why then, if God spoke to him, does he want money? Surely it should be enough to know that the book would be out of circulation and the person fired?

And while I cannot say I agree, I'd imagine that a book along these lines would be the find of the century for virtually all 16 year olds.

And me, don't forget me!

um, no. Perhaps the library shouldn't stock their selves with rubbish? And if they do, they should be far more careful about not letting it fall into the hands of children.

I wasn't aware that a healthy and fun sex life was rubbish. My bad.

"many sleepless nights in our house."

I bet, you wankers.

"God was speaking to my heart that day" = unequivocal moron.

Of course, because the heart lacks auditory organs of its own trying to get the word of God on it is like trying to listen to AM radio while driving through a tunnel. You get a lot of static on it.

1 This is a statement that can be trusted: If anyone sets his heart on being a bishop, he desires something excellent.

2 A bishop must have a good reputation. He must have only one wife, be sober, use good judgment, be respectable, be hospitable, and be able to teach.

3 He must not drink excessively or be a violent person, but he must be gentle. He must not be quarrelsome or love money.

4 He must manage his own family well. His children should respectfully obey him.

5 (If a man doesn't know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God's church?)

6 He must not be a new Christian, or he might become arrogant like the devil and be condemned.

7 People who are not Christians must speak well of him, or he might become the victim of disgraceful insults that the devil sets as traps for him.

8 Deacons must also be of good character. They must not be two-faced or addicted to alcohol. They must not use shameful ways to make money.

9 They must have clear consciences about possessing the mystery of the Christian faith.

10 First, a person must be evaluated. Then, if he has a good reputation, he may become a deacon.

I think we in the US should be able to utilize the old-fashioned legal trick called "SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING TWIT AND FUCKING DEAL WITH IT." It would solve many a problem.

I think we in the US should be able to utilize the old-fashioned legal trick called "SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING TWIT AND FUCKING DEAL WITH IT." It would solve many a problem.

"This is Chewbacca."