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Your prediction of the future?

South Lizasauria
21-04-2007, 03:36
Based on whats happening now in present day can you guess what the future will be like or how the history over the next four to five decades will be?

I'm guessing F451 will happen and that after a left wing government weakens the US military China or Russia will nuke us back to the stone age. Here's my prediction in more detail that may lead up to F451. Prior to these events America will undergo a MAJOR holocaust of Christians, homophobes and Muslims. The democrats will push their power and eventually by engaging the holocaust will be infringing on the first amendment, both Right wingers and moderates who notice this will say they are against what America stands for and rebel and attempt to start a codata (a revolution that ends with a replacement of government) this civil war will weaken the military, Right wingers, the Left government and Moderates will fight a three way war eventually forcing the government to abuse its power further, they ban reading in order to stay in power because it turns out those who read learn about what they're doing rebel. And so it begins. That is my prediction.
Call to power
21-04-2007, 03:37
I predict all will be happy and every little thing will be alright (for left leaning centrists anyway)

I have optimism in the future its all you can do :)
Andaras Prime
21-04-2007, 03:39
wtf?!
Nadkor
21-04-2007, 03:43
Hopefully sometime in the future I'll be happy. I'm not optimistic.
South Lizasauria
21-04-2007, 03:45
Well that was just my prediction, what do you think will happen in the next 50 years?
German Nightmare
21-04-2007, 03:49
It's gonna be cold, it's gonna be gray, and it's gonna last you for the rest of your life.
Siap
21-04-2007, 03:52
George Orwell said something to the effect of "If you want to see the future of humanity, imagine a boot stamping on a human face for eternity".
The Lone Alliance
21-04-2007, 03:53
I predict that in 2008 if the Neo-cons lose the election Bush will declare Marshal Law because of "Evil Doers" In response, the Military will Coup, overthrow Bush, then the "Big Business" controlled people as well as the Neo-cons, will be rounded up and sent to Cuba as "Enemy Combatants"

The remaining Republicans will celebrate that they don't have border line fascists running their party and the Democrats will celebrate on the loss of the most annoying political group in this country.
Nadkor
21-04-2007, 03:59
Well that was just my prediction, what do you think will happen in the next 50 years?

Well, within 50 years I'll be 70, unless, hopefully, I'm dead by then.

Both dying and turning 70 seem like they could be fairly significant for me.
Gartref
21-04-2007, 04:48
George Orwell said something to the effect of "If you want to see the future of humanity, imagine a boot stamping on a human face for eternity".

If you have a foot fetish - then that's pretty good news.
THE LOST PLANET
21-04-2007, 06:43
If you have a foot fetish - then that's pretty good news.But does it have to be a boot? Couldn't that Foot be wearing stilleto heels and have a nice pedicure?
Hamilay
21-04-2007, 06:45
But does it have to be a boot? Couldn't that Foot be wearing stilleto heels and have a nice pedicure?
I'd rather have a boot smashed into my face than a stilletto heel. Pain.
New Stalinberg
21-04-2007, 07:01
The DeLorean car compay will be resurrected and everyone in the world will have a sweet ride.
Maineiacs
21-04-2007, 07:04
The Fundies will have succeeded in establishing the theocracy they want so badly, and I won't care what happens after that because I'd rather die than live under their rule.
The Pictish Revival
21-04-2007, 07:15
The DeLorean car compay will be resurrected and everyone in the world will have a sweet ride.

Is 'sweet' the latest slang for 'worthless heap of garbage'?
As in: 'This thread's OP is totally sweet.'
Ri-an
21-04-2007, 07:15
Since nearly every event, if not every event predicted by the mayan Calander has come true, I think that there's a reason it doesn't extend beyond December 2012. I'm just hopping its because of a fulll scale worldwide nuclear assulat that finishes off the slow suicide we've been doing to ourselves for years now and makes the earth uninhabitable for the rest of eternity.
Eurgrovia
21-04-2007, 07:18
The Fundies will have succeeded in establishing the theocracy they want so badly, and I won't care what happens after that because I'd rather die than live under their rule.
Sadly, that is accurate and probably won't take 50 years.

and makes the earth uninhabitable for the rest of eternity.
Yeah, why let future intelligent life forms attain the stupidity and arrogance we worked so hard for!
Flatus Minor
21-04-2007, 07:27
Is 'sweet' the latest slang for 'worthless heap of garbage'?
As in: 'This thread's OP is totally sweet.'

Can't argue with a car powered by 1.21 jiggawatts (http://www.homevideos.com/freezeframes3/back2thefutureone108.jpeg)!
Vetalia
21-04-2007, 07:28
The future will be so amazing that we will consider it heaven compared to what we have now. This really is the greatest and most wonderful time in human history. Everything will get a lot better, and we will all be richer, healthier, and more happy than we have been at any time in our history. Utopia, or something like it, will be in our grasp.

I'm looking forward to it, to say the least.
Soviestan
21-04-2007, 07:30
An Asian state(China, N.Korea, or Japan) sets off world war3. They are defeated and things get back to normal. Maybe it will happen, maybe not. The only one who knows what will happen is Allah.
Potarius
21-04-2007, 07:31
Is 'sweet' the latest slang for 'worthless heap of garbage'?
As in: 'This thread's OP is totally sweet.'

The 1981 DeLorean was a fine car, after they ironed out the bugs and whatnot. It could go from 0-60 in about 6.4 seconds, which was damn good for a sports car in the early 1980s, especially one in its price range.

Along with good acceleration, it had a top speed of about 144 mp/h, and again, that's very good for a sports car of its era, especially given its price range. Add to that excellent handling and suspension, and you have a classic.

It's sad that it was plagued with so many problems early on, though. They pretty much killed any chance of truly resurrecting the car. Regardless of this, you can still buy rebuilt DeLoreans for around $40,000, complete with new engines, instruments, air conditioners, and even interiors. A company in Texas specialises in this.

And yeah, they are sweet rides.
The Pictish Revival
21-04-2007, 07:31
Can't argue with a car powered by 1.21 jiggawatts (http://www.homevideos.com/freezeframes3/back2thefutureone108.jpeg)!

Yeah, but it has to get up to 88mph before it can travel through time. What's the chances it will manage that?
Eurgrovia
21-04-2007, 07:32
The future will be so amazing that we will consider it heaven compared to what we have now. This really is the greatest and most wonderful time in human history. Everything will get a lot better, and we will all be richer, healthier, and more happy than we have been at any time in our history. Utopia, or something like it, will be in our grasp.
You have an interesting definition of "greatest" and "wonderful".
Mahria
21-04-2007, 07:35
I believe previous speakers have been too pessimistic. America has grown much more polarized, certainly. However, I don't think America will be ready for open civil war any time soon. Everyone is too comfortable.

Disillusion with the American government will keep getting even worse as war in Iraq drags on. Other governments may experience the same thing, as previous ideas about patriotism erode.

I think the rest of the world is less predictable. Pollution will continue and worsen, as will resulting health problems. Many experts fear the coming of "water wars" as rising temperature (a probability) and population (a certainty) make water rarer worldwide. That's what I fear more, personally. Especially since I'm Canadian-hell, we have all the water that people want.... hands off our water, sumbitches. I'm thirsty.
Vetalia
21-04-2007, 07:37
You have an interesting definition of "greatest" and "wonderful".

Technology is beautiful. We can do more, accomplish more, and envision more than any of our ancestors; I see the evolution of technology, science and technology unraveling the secrets of our human bodies, machines approaching constantly new heights of achievement, intelligence being infused in to everything and anything as beautiful things.

What we can do, and what we will be capable of, are stunningly beautiful and stunningly powerful. Man will control its entire destiny, from genes to compete augmentation of what we have, to beyond...it really is a wonderful time to be alive.
The Pictish Revival
21-04-2007, 07:43
It could go from 0-60 in about 6.4 seconds, which was damn good for a sports car in the early 1980s, especially one in its price range.


Even that crook John Delorean didn't claim it could do 0-60 in 6.4s.
Trade testing showed it took more than 10s.
To suggest that it was good for its price range is, frankly, laughable.
Potarius
21-04-2007, 07:45
Even that crook John Delorean didn't claim it could do 0-60 in 6.4s.
Trade testing showed it took more than 10s.
To suggest that it was good for its price range is, frankly, laughable.

Then I guess the Gran Turismo 4 team used a rebuilt version for their model reference. :p

Even so, the rebuilt versions are good, even if the originals weren't.
The Pictish Revival
21-04-2007, 07:50
Then I guess the Gran Turismo 4 team used a rebuilt version for their model reference. :p

Even so, the rebuilt versions are good, even if the originals weren't.

Hehe - I wondered where you'd got those figures from. Yeah, it's possible that the new ones are perfectly good - I know nothing about them. Just don't equate them with the 1981 DMC-12, which was lamer than a one-legged millipede.
Soheran
21-04-2007, 07:54
Global corporate tyranny with a few democratic forms and regulatory institutions bought by the powerful.

Little hope of genuine freedom. I remain undecided as to the degree to which ecological catastrophe and the threat of ecological catastrophe will impede global growth in living standards, but I tend towards pessimism.
Eurgrovia
21-04-2007, 07:56
Technology is beautiful. We can do more, accomplish more, and envision more than any of our ancestors; I see the evolution of technology, science and technology unraveling the secrets of our human bodies, machines approaching constantly new heights of achievement, intelligence being infused in to everything and anything as beautiful things.

What we can do, and what we will be capable of, are stunningly beautiful and stunningly powerful. Man will control its entire destiny, from genes to compete augmentation of what we have, to beyond...it really is a wonderful time to be alive.
Oh, I was under the impression we were taking everything into account.
Vetalia
21-04-2007, 08:03
Oh, I was under the impression we were taking everything into account.

I'm not too worried about the other stuff. History has shown that the absolutely idiotic stuff tends to be weeded out regularly to prevent crap from getting too far out of hand.
Eurgrovia
21-04-2007, 08:05
I'm not too worried about the other stuff. History has shown that the absolutely idiotic stuff tends to be weeded out regularly to prevent crap from getting too far out of hand.
Well, sure. My only point was that as it stands now it certainly isn't a great and wonderful world. Also, if America continues down the road it is now (not necessarily war) it certainly will not be a great place in 50 years.
Kothuwania
21-04-2007, 08:08
Based on whats happening now in present day can you guess what the future will be like or how the history over the next four to five decades will be?

I'm guessing F451 will happen and that after a left wing government weakens the US military China or Russia will nuke us back to the stone age. Here's my prediction in more detail that may lead up to F451. Prior to these events America will undergo a MAJOR holocaust of Christians, homophobes and Muslims. The democrats will push their power and eventually by engaging the holocaust will be infringing on the first amendment, both Right wingers and moderates who notice this will say they are against what America stands for and rebel and attempt to start a codata (a revolution that ends with a replacement of government) this civil war will weaken the military, Right wingers, the Left government and Moderates will fight a three way war eventually forcing the government to abuse its power further, they ban reading in order to stay in power because it turns out those who read learn about what they're doing rebel. And so it begins. That is my prediction.

About when do you think this will start? I'd say not in any of our lifetimes if it even happens.
South Lizasauria
21-04-2007, 09:03
About when do you think this will start? I'd say not in any of our lifetimes if it even happens.

If my prediction is correct 2008 or 2012, maybe sooner. I heard of a kid who wore a shirt that says "straight and proud of it-freedom of speech" and he got in trouble. The left whines about equal rights but they don't care about equal rights, if gays can wear shirts saying they're gay why the hell can't a straight guy wear a shirt saying he's straight?! That also violated the precious 1st amendment making the left who enforce these laws enemies of America (last debate regarding the 1st amendment my disregard for got somebody to label me an enemy of America for attacking what it's based) Secondly I heard that people Christian or not are getting in trouble at school or in public just for quoting bible verses even if it's not offensive or doesn't break any rules. And lets not forget the left and their "terrorism drills" in Texas, and the whole lesbian cloning where stem cell research is put into making lesbians happy rather than curing illnesses, are they suddenly 1st rate and everyone else is 2nd rate citizens well so much for equality!
Kothuwania
21-04-2007, 09:53
If my prediction is correct 2008 or 2012, maybe sooner. I heard of a kid who wore a shirt that says "straight and proud of it-freedom of speech" and he got in trouble.

That's ridiculous. We're moving way too far left. I think it will bounce back around though, give it 70 yrs or so. I doubt well see nuclear action for a while. This Leftist stuff is disgusting though. If you stop to think about it, the extremes on both ends are stupid.
The Last Boyscout
21-04-2007, 10:17
That's ridiculous. We're moving way too far left. I think it will bounce back around though, give it 70 yrs or so. I doubt well see nuclear action for a while. This Leftist stuff is disgusting though. If you stop to think about it, the extremes on both ends are stupid.Did you even read the part of SL's post you quoted? He 'heard of a kid... ' You're giving a knee jerk reaction to a fuckin' rumour. His whole post was so rambling and betrayed so many issues on his part there's no way any sane person would take him serious.
Rejistania
21-04-2007, 11:00
The HURD will reach 1.0! One day later MS goes Chapter 11.

well, seriously... I do not know... I can tell some ideas from my Sci-Fis:

A new economic system emerges and the nations not inside it will fall into poverty

A cargo cult will start at a povrished Hollywood which never got over the demise and end of the film industry

MS will move its headquarters to either Toronto or Baku

People will not be divided by race, class or location but by ideologies

People will have almost no historical knowledge since most artifacts were found already and most records of them will be destroyed by incorrect storage (5.25 inch disks anyone?).
Kothuwania
21-04-2007, 11:24
Did you even read the part of SL's post you quoted? He 'heard of a kid... ' You're giving a knee jerk reaction to a fuckin' rumour. His whole post was so rambling and betrayed so many issues on his part there's no way any sane person would take him serious.
It's true, I could use some proof.
It does seem just ridiclulous enough to be true though.
Lebostrana
21-04-2007, 11:30
I predict the UN will keep all the countries with nuclear arsenals (Russia and The US mostly) from nuking each other for a long time, while North Korea continues it's experiments and making it's people poorer, trouble in the middle east will continue until the populations of everywhere from Israel to Afghanistan will drop by at least 50%, events in Iran will grow less and less stable, The UK will disband, and everywhere other than the middle east the population will spiral out of control and there will not be enough food or water to feed the Earth. At this stage, the world governments will be likely to lose proper judgement, or in some places even fall apart completely, and we will most likely start nuking each other.

Forget all this shiny building, cool gadgetry crap, it probably isn't going to happen.
Nadkor
21-04-2007, 19:07
The DeLorean car compay will be resurrected and everyone in the world will have a sweet ride.

And the coolest car in the world will once again be being built 2 miles from my house :cool:
South Lizasauria
21-04-2007, 19:19
Did you even read the part of SL's post you quoted? He 'heard of a kid... ' You're giving a knee jerk reaction to a fuckin' rumour. His whole post was so rambling and betrayed so many issues on his part there's no way any sane person would take him serious.

Hey that kid was my friends friend, I didn't know him but my friend was upset about how they treated him just for wearing a smegging t-shirt stating he's straight.
Arthais101
21-04-2007, 19:45
Hey that kid was my friends friend, I didn't know him but my friend was upset about how they treated him just for wearing a smegging t-shirt stating he's straight.

Yeah, exactly. There's a reason hearsay isn't admissable.

Now, for a more...reasonable prediction, and not SL's inane ramblings.

I think the position of the US economy globally will weaken a bit. It will still be strong, still be important, still be vital. It just won't be...as vital.

I think Puerto Rico will become the 51st state.

I think things in the Middle East, Iran and Saudi Arabia will slowly begin to secularize, and tensions with Israel will slow. I think Palestine will become an independant nation, and shit will slowly start to cool down.

That being said I think the real global issues will switch to africa. The entire continent is rich in natural resources. As technology improves, and extraction/refining becomes cheaper, and the value of those resources goes up due to shortages, you're going to see a lot more investment into africa. What will happen then is the saudi arabia phenominon...of when very poor nations get a lot of money very very quickly. Smoldering ethnic tensions will erupt as nations start funneling their new wealth into military. We'll see violence on a much larger scale than darfur, and it will spread across the continent, eventually pulling the UN and NATO into it full scale.

I think the EU will grow considerably strong, and I think it will slowly cause national lines to blur, as europeans slowly begin to identify as europeans, and it will be the start of a truly one europe.

I think in terms of science and health, the internet will become effectively totally ingrained in virtually every aspect of life. Computers get smaller and more powerful, and we'll be able to fit in our hands osmething with more raw processing power than the best home PCs now. I think whereever you go in the first world, you'll be able to pick up wireless internet, and have the full range of capabilities anywhere and everywhere.

Life expectancy should rise to the 90s, as nanotech and microsurgery find better ways of dealing with things like hear defects and cancer.

I think gay marriage will be deemed a constitutional right under the 14th amendment sometime in the next 30 years, which will settle that issue.
Arthais101
21-04-2007, 19:50
and what in the world is a codata?

I think you mean a coup d'état
IL Ruffino
21-04-2007, 19:55
DoooooOOOOoooOOOOOooooooom.
Nationalian
21-04-2007, 19:59
We'll probably build machines that will become smarter than us and take us all like prisoners in order for us to alther heat so they can keep going. Fortunatelly we'll not realize that our only function is as batteries to the machines since they will make us think that we live in a world similar to this one.

Alternativelly they will just nuke us all to death.

Or maybe I've just seen to many movies.
South Lizasauria
21-04-2007, 20:09
Yeah, exactly. There's a reason hearsay isn't admissable.

Now, for a more...reasonable prediction, and not SL's inane ramblings.

I think the position of the US economy globally will weaken a bit. It will still be strong, still be important, still be vital. It just won't be...as vital.

I think Puerto Rico will become the 51st state.

I think things in the Middle East, Iran and Saudi Arabia will slowly begin to secularize, and tensions with Israel will slow. I think Palestine will become an independant nation, and shit will slowly start to cool down.

That being said I think the real global issues will switch to africa. The entire continent is rich in natural resources. As technology improves, and extraction/refining becomes cheaper, and the value of those resources goes up due to shortages, you're going to see a lot more investment into africa. What will happen then is the saudi arabia phenominon...of when very poor nations get a lot of money very very quickly. Smoldering ethnic tensions will erupt as nations start funneling their new wealth into military. We'll see violence on a much larger scale than darfur, and it will spread across the continent, eventually pulling the UN and NATO into it full scale.

I think the EU will grow considerably strong, and I think it will slowly cause national lines to blur, as europeans slowly begin to identify as europeans, and it will be the start of a truly one europe.

I think in terms of science and health, the internet will become effectively totally ingrained in virtually every aspect of life. Computers get smaller and more powerful, and we'll be able to fit in our hands osmething with more raw processing power than the best home PCs now. I think whereever you go in the first world, you'll be able to pick up wireless internet, and have the full range of capabilities anywhere and everywhere.

Life expectancy should rise to the 90s, as nanotech and microsurgery find better ways of dealing with things like hear defects and cancer.

I think gay marriage will be deemed a constitutional right under the 14th amendment sometime in the next 30 years, which will settle that issue.

Good prediction, I must ask however why you think my "rambling" is insane.

Its already happening, Texans have "terrorist" drills only the terrorists instead of being Islamic AL Queda type people are whiny Christians. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=523134)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483572
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=485487

Oh and another question. How old are you? Don't people with jobs have anything better on forums to do than harass 16 year olds nonstop with their biased flamatory material and constantly point out their errors even when it serves no other purpose but to satisfy your MASTRUBATORY fantasies of causing the little guy pain to make yourself feel better?
SimNewtonia
21-04-2007, 20:16
Read up on Peak Oil and weep.

:(
Kbrookistan
21-04-2007, 20:23
Oh and another question. How old are you? Don't people with jobs have anything better on forums to do than harass 16 year olds nonstop with their biased flamatory material and constantly point out their errors even when it serves no other purpose but to satisfy your MASTRUBATORY fantasies of causing the little guy pain to make yourself feel better?

Wow. Dude. You need to step back, take a deep breath and walk round the block. And possibly get over yourself.
Arthais101
21-04-2007, 20:25
Good prediction, I must ask however why you think my "rambling" is insane.

I did not say "insane" I said "inane", as in "without sense or substance". I state that your comments are without sense or substance as they have not been grounded in any data what so ever, ergo, they have no substance.


Its already happening, Texans have "terrorist" drills only the terrorists instead of being Islamic AL Queda type people are whiny Christians. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=523134)

Yes, so? What's that have anything to do with anything? you realize "drills" are not real, right? This does not prove your point.

Oh and another question. How old are you?

29

Don't people with jobs

It's saturday.

have anything better on forums to do than harass 16 year olds nonstop

As noted before, if you make a thread putting your opinions out there, you willingly subject your opinions to criticism. You made a thread, I replied. You placed your opinions, I disagreed. I said absolutely nothing about you, I responded to the ideas you put forth. More important to note, I'm not the only one that found them a little....off.
Drunk commies deleted
21-04-2007, 20:31
Based on whats happening now in present day can you guess what the future will be like or how the history over the next four to five decades will be?

I'm guessing F451 will happen and that after a left wing government weakens the US military China or Russia will nuke us back to the stone age. Here's my prediction in more detail that may lead up to F451. Prior to these events America will undergo a MAJOR holocaust of Christians, homophobes and Muslims. The democrats will push their power and eventually by engaging the holocaust will be infringing on the first amendment, both Right wingers and moderates who notice this will say they are against what America stands for and rebel and attempt to start a codata (a revolution that ends with a replacement of government) this civil war will weaken the military, Right wingers, the Left government and Moderates will fight a three way war eventually forcing the government to abuse its power further, they ban reading in order to stay in power because it turns out those who read learn about what they're doing rebel. And so it begins. That is my prediction.

Two questions: What are you on? Can I have some?
Mirkai
21-04-2007, 20:38
Ever read the Turner Diaries?

Anything but that.
South Lizasauria
21-04-2007, 20:41
Yes, so? What's that have anything to do with anything? you realize "drills" are not real, right? This does not prove your point.


Yes but drills are supposed to give people a feel of a situation and how to respond to it. They are putting the idea that Christians are terrorists in general when they should be drilling terrorists we're at war with. They are obviously using the war on terror as an excuse to make Christians look bad

He says the stereotyping used in the high school's drill is an accurate indicator of what is being taught in public schools in the Northeast region of the country.

It's obvious, the left is trying to get the idea that Christians are terrorists in our heads.

So much for equality and freedom of religion. :rolleyes:
Eurgrovia
21-04-2007, 20:46
It's obvious, the left is trying to get the idea that Christians are terrorists in our heads.

So much for equality and freedom of religion. :rolleyes:
I disagree with Drunk Commies on a lot of things but I need to repeat what he said.

Two questions: What are you on? Can I have some?
Arthais101
21-04-2007, 20:48
Yes but drills are supposed to give people a feel of a situation and how to respond to it.

Um...ok. How is a christian with a gun handled differently than a muslim with a gun? Do you throw a pork rib at the muslim one and hope to distract them?

They are putting the idea that Christians are terrorists in general

OK, wait. So a christian themed terrorist supports the idea that christians are terrorists in general, and we should make those terrorists muslim, now how would this not support the idea that muslims are terrorists in general?

How is it ANY better to portray all muslims as terrorists?

when they should be drilling terrorists we're at war with. They are obviously using the war on terror as an excuse to make Christians look bad

You do realize that terrirsts in this country have been predominantly christian, right? The amount of terrorist activities committed in this country by muslims are exactly 1.

Do you want me to list how many abortion bombings there have been in this country? How about Oklahoma City? How about the KKK?

It's obvious, the left is trying to get the idea that Christians are terrorists in our heads.

So much for equality and freedom of religion. :rolleyes:

And you would prefer that they put the idea that Muslims are terrorists?

I will remind you again, the VAST majority of acts of terrorism in this country were committed by christians. Point to me one act of terrorism not committed on 9/11/01 committed by a muslim in this country.

Go on, show me one.

Was the kid who shot up vt muslim? No. Were the kids at columbine? No. Was timothy mcveigh? No. Unabomber? Nope.

How about Paul Hill? You know, the guy who was executed for killing an abortion doctor? He was, in fact, a Presbyterian minister
Eurgrovia
21-04-2007, 20:50
Totally in agreement with you Arthais...but why do we need to need to give names and purpose to terrorists in a drill? I think the only thing that matters is their intent to do harm.
Arthais101
21-04-2007, 20:55
Totally in agreement with you Arthais...but why do we need to need to give names and purpose to terrorists in a drill? I think the only thing that matters is their intent to do harm.

Frankly, I don't know why. I suppose to add an element of "realism" to it, as oppose to "ok, some guys are shooting up the school for some reason..."

Frankly speaking right wing paramilitary christian groups are far more of a threat in this country, especially down south, than any muslim organization.
Arthais101
21-04-2007, 20:59
wait a minute....the OP discussing some vast left wing conspiracy and uses as an example a decision made by school officials in..........texas.

Anybody see anything wrong with that?
South Lizasauria
21-04-2007, 21:00
Totally in agreement with you Arthais...but why do we need to need to give names and purpose to terrorists in a drill? I think the only thing that matters is their intent to do harm.

So why make them Christian terrorists in the drill, why not just say, "OH NOES terrorists!" then drill without mentioning what religion they are. As long as they're terrorists out to do damage and the drill is a terrorist hostage drill just saying terrorists have taken someone hostage is enough.
Forsakia
21-04-2007, 21:01
wait a minute....the OP discussing some vast left wing conspiracy and uses as an example a decision made by school officials in..........texas.

Anybody see anything wrong with that?

It's a really deep conspiracy, Bush is in fact an undercover leftist agent trying to drive the USA to socialism.
Eurgrovia
21-04-2007, 21:03
Go back to the article and read up on what it says about the liberals. Besides Texas being conservative makes it more of a target for the left.
You go from being reasonable in your previous post to becoming a bloody idiot in your next post. It is amazing.
South Lizasauria
21-04-2007, 21:03
wait a minute....the OP discussing some vast left wing conspiracy and uses as an example a decision made by school officials in..........texas.

Anybody see anything wrong with that?


Go back to the article and read up on what it says about the liberals. Besides Texas being conservative makes it more of a target for the left.

You do realize that terrirsts in this country have been predominantly christian, right? The amount of terrorist activities committed in this country by muslims are exactly 1.

Do you want me to list how many abortion bombings there have been in this country? How about Oklahoma City? How about the KKK?

And I don't believe the KKK are Christian, a Christian would not burn a cross.

And you would prefer that they put the idea that Muslims are terrorists?

I will remind you again, the VAST majority of acts of terrorism in this country were committed by christians. Point to me one act of terrorism not committed on 9/11/01 committed by a muslim in this country.

Go on, show me one.

Was the kid who shot up vt muslim? No. Were the kids at columbine? No. Was timothy mcveigh? No. Unabomber? Nope.

How about Paul Hill? You know, the guy who was executed for killing an abortion doctor? He was, in fact, a Presbyterian minister

Most terrorists are plain criminals who are murderous wackos with guns, the majority of terrorism in the US is done by criminal syndicates, sociopaths and people who've gone mad. People going on school shoot outs and criminals using acts of terror in the poor part of town to get their way is more common than Christian terrorism. Gangs shooting people for ethnicity and madmen with guns on rampages are more common than events like the Waco tragedy and other acts of Christian terrorism.
Soheran
21-04-2007, 21:05
Go on, show me one.

The first WTC bombing.
Arthais101
21-04-2007, 21:09
So why make them Christian terrorists in the drill, why not just say, "OH NOES terrorists!" then drill without mentioning what religion they are. As long as they're terrorists out to do damage and the drill is a terrorist hostage drill just saying terrorists have taken someone hostage is enough.

because homegrown terrorism of this nature is far more likely to be christian than islamic, and if you're training a scenario it's perhaps best to train in the einviornment they are more likely to actually face.
Arthais101
21-04-2007, 21:09
:p The first WTC bombing.

hm, ok, you're right, forgot about that.

Dare you to do it again :p
Arthais101
21-04-2007, 21:10
You go from being reasonable in your previous post to becoming a bloody idiot in your next post. It is amazing.

it's like watching someone with very advanced allzeimers who has sudden and brief moments of lucidity before slipping back.
Eurgrovia
21-04-2007, 21:11
And I don't believe the KKK are Christian, a Christian would not burn a cross.
I find it humorous that of all things you would pick that as being evidence for them not being Christisn.
Soheran
21-04-2007, 21:12
hm, ok, you're right, forgot about that.

Dare you to do it again :p

I honestly can't think of another one, unless you want to count the embassy bombings as being "in this country."

The basic notion behind your challenge is justified... though one might wrangle over the fact that there have been attacks by Muslims on US targets outside of the country.
Soheran
21-04-2007, 21:14
Wait the WTC has actually bombed people and no one has tried to subdue them yet? Linky?

WTC = World Trade Center.

I was referring to al-Qaeda's first attack on it, in 1993.
Arthais101
21-04-2007, 21:14
And I don't believe the KKK are Christian, a Christian would not burn a cross.

You need to do your research a bit.


Most terrorists are plain criminals who are murderous wackos with guns, the majority of terrorism in the US is done by criminal syndicates, sociopaths and people who've gone mad. People going on school shoot outs and criminals using acts of terror in the poor part of town to get their way is more common than Christian terrorism. Gangs shooting people for ethnicity and madmen with guns on rampages are more common than events like the Waco tragedy and other acts of Christian terrorism.

criminal acts of violence are not terrorism. Terrorism is using violence to instill fear in the population.

Some kid going off the deep end and shooting up a school is not terrorism.

Crossburning is terrorism
Bombing a federal building because you don't like the government is terrorism
Spreading a manifesto arguing for social change while putting bombs in the mail is terrorism
Shooting abortion doctors and bombing clinics to scare them into not performing abortion is terrorism

All of those have been done predominantly, if not universally, by christians in this country.
Arthais101
21-04-2007, 21:15
Wait the WTC has actually bombed people and no one has tried to subdue them yet? Linky?

um.....wtf?
Compulsive Depression
21-04-2007, 21:19
um.....wtf?

Indeed ;)

They mean this event (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center#Bombing_of_February_26.2C_1993), SL, not that the Wu-Tang Clan have taken up arms...
Eurgrovia
21-04-2007, 21:22
Indeed ;)

They mean this event (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center#Bombing_of_February_26.2C_1993), SL, not that the Wu-Tang Clan have taken up arms...
I think he he meant "Wtf" in the sense that he was shocked at SL's dumb comment.
Compulsive Depression
21-04-2007, 21:27
I think he he meant "Wtf" in the sense that he was shocked at SL's dumb comment.

I know. I was agreeing, and attempting to educate SL.
Edit: Although I'd been beaten by Soheran. Didn't spot it 'cos of the timewarp.
South Lizasauria
21-04-2007, 21:28
I think he he meant "Wtf" in the sense that he was shocked at SL's dumb comment.

I misread WTC as WBC. Its not like I'm the only one here who misreads stuff, people misread titles all the time. I misread posts by accident. :(
Arthais101
21-04-2007, 21:32
I honestly can't think of another one, unless you want to count the embassy bombings as being "in this country."

Welllllll embassys are sovereign soil, so I suppose it fits the letter of my challenge, but not its spirit.

The basic notion behind your challenge is justified... though one might wrangle over the fact that there have been attacks by Muslims on US targets outside of the country.

Oh but if we want to include attacks made by terrorists outside America I'll be happy to bring up the IRA and Sinn Fein.

Moreover I'd argue that the various attacks by muslims outside of the us...not really relevant to a highschool in new jersey.

Edit: did I just seriously say "NRA"?
Soheran
21-04-2007, 21:34
Moreover I'd argue that the various attacks by muslims outside of the us...not really relevant to a highschool in new jersey.

SL's position here, like most of his positions, has no rational or empirical foundation at all.

I'm just quibbling.
Arthais101
21-04-2007, 21:41
SL's position here, like most of his positions, has no rational or empirical foundation at all.

Agreed

I'm just quibbling.

at this point so am I.
South Lizasauria
21-04-2007, 21:50
Lets get back on topic, this thread is for predicting the future not arguing about which terrorist group or religion is most predominant.
Desperate Measures
21-04-2007, 21:57
Kittens in space and self-winding grandfather clocks. Non-chewable chewable Flintstones vitamins (only future people get how it works).
Siempreciego
21-04-2007, 23:55
over the next few decades, USA/nafta, the EU, India, China and Brazil will be the major economic powers in the world. They will also be very interdependent. It will be in their interest to make sure the world is a stable to protect their own interests.
Africa will benefit as it will be one of the last few places in the world where these countries can properly invest and gain high returns.
Finally with the nations of the world, being so dependent on each other, the UN or will become a world government of sorts.
Gravlen
22-04-2007, 00:17
It's gonna rain... :(
Novus-America
22-04-2007, 08:21
Collapse of the US economy, USD being kept alive only through foreign (Japanese, German and possibly Chinese) intervention, continued shifting between Democrats and Republicans as neither side will be willing to give up its core ideas (military and defense industry on the grounds of keeping the country safe and prepared for the Republicans and welfare to help the newly poor cope for the Democrats) while the majority of Americans become increasingly disgusted with both. Unless one side gains 2/3 majority in the House and Senate, and the wins the presidency, the US may just see a party split not seen since the Civil War. If the dollar collapses, kiss the Chinese economy good-bye. The only good thing that may come out of this is that the illegal immigration will slow down - or even stop - due to the fact that things won't be so good in the US anymore.
UnHoly Smite
22-04-2007, 08:46
I predict I will marry both ashley tisdale and brenda song.



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Other than that.......The Suns win the NBA title, Democrats loose in '08, I get really drunk and have loads of kinky sex with hot women, I will marry hayden panettiere..yes three wives.



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