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So...today was the National Day of Silence

Zarakon
19-04-2007, 01:42
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_day_of_silence

Now, let me state first, I'm in favor of gay rights. Now to my point.

What a fucking worthless protest.

Just how fucking stupid.

Seriously. How is NOT TALKING for a day going to help a cause at all? It'll make the homophobes happy they don't have to listen to you for a day! How about National Day of Nonstop Explanation of Why The Right To Choose Who You Have Sex With And Marry Is An Integral Human Right? I mean, they'd probably want a shorter name, but you get the point.

Seriously. I tried to explain this to every silent (For the protest) person I met today, but they still wouldn't talk.
Minaris
19-04-2007, 01:45
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_day_of_silence

Now, let me state first, I'm in favor of gay rights. Now to my point.

What a fucking worthless protest.

Just how fucking stupid.

Seriously. How is NOT TALKING for a day going to help a cause at all? It'll make the homophobes happy they don't have to listen to you for a day! How about National Day of Nonstop Explanation of Why The Right To Choose Who You Have Sex With And Marry Is An Integral Human Right? I mean, they'd probably want a shorter name, but you get the point.

Seriously. I tried to explain this to every silent (For the protest) person I met today, but they still wouldn't talk.

It's supposed to symbolize the victims' lack of a voice.

HOWEVER, they fail to realize that 90% of their audience fails to make the connection.
Zarakon
19-04-2007, 01:46
It's supposed to symbolize the victims' lack of a voice.


I know it's supposed to be symbolic.


HOWEVER, they fail to realize that 90% of their audience fails to make the connection.

They do have signs and stuff some of the time.
Zarakon
19-04-2007, 01:48
If the point was getting you're attention, then it succeeded admirably.

The point was expressing my views. If you didn't think anyone who doesn't agree with you "just wants attention" you'd have realized that.
Relyc
19-04-2007, 01:48
Seriously. I tried to explain this to every silent (For the protest) person I met today, but they still wouldn't talk.

If the point was getting you're attention, then it succeeded admirably.
Eurgrovia
19-04-2007, 01:49
How about National Day of Nonstop Explanation of Why The Right To Choose Who You Have Sex With And Marry Is An Integral Human Right? I mean, they'd probably want a shorter name, but you get the point.
People oppose these things because they don't listen, how would explaining it to them again help? I think being silent and at least peaking their interest in why you are being silent has some effect.
Myu in the Middle
19-04-2007, 01:52
The point was expressing my views. If you didn't think anyone who doesn't agree with you "just wants attention" you'd have realized that.
No, he meant that the protesters succeeded in getting your attention, which means that at least in some sense, they must have been doing something right.
New Stalinberg
19-04-2007, 01:55
I thought it was stupid too.

I would ask, "What do you actually hope to accomplish?"

And I'd get these written (they coudln't talk, remember?) responses saying, "This badge increases awareness.... blablabla..."

I'd respond, "Great, but what do you actually hope to achieve by being silent all day?" And I'd get the same response.

Sorry to all you guys wearing these silly badges, the idea may have looked good on paper, but it ended up looking fairly juvenile.
Minaris
19-04-2007, 01:56
They do have signs and stuff some of the time.

True, but still... the text is like 8 pt if the protesters wear the thing.
Zarakon
19-04-2007, 01:56
No, he meant that the protesters succeeded in getting your attention, which means that at least in some sense, they must have been doing something right.

Oh, I see. Misread it. My bad.

(Although you must admit snideness is more common on NSG then actually making a point.)
South Lizasauria
19-04-2007, 01:57
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_day_of_silence

Now, let me state first, I'm in favor of gay rights. Now to my point.

What a fucking worthless protest.

Just how fucking stupid.

Seriously. How is NOT TALKING for a day going to help a cause at all? It'll make the homophobes happy they don't have to listen to you for a day! How about National Day of Nonstop Explanation of Why The Right To Choose Who You Have Sex With And Marry Is An Integral Human Right? I mean, they'd probably want a shorter name, but you get the point.

Seriously. I tried to explain this to every silent (For the protest) person I met today, but they still wouldn't talk.

Is there a national day of noise which will be an active day of protest against the bullying and harassment of homophones and straights? :confused:
Zarakon
19-04-2007, 01:58
Is there a national day of noise which will be an active day of protest against the bullying and harassment of homophones and straights? :confused:

* bare, bear
* be, bee
* beech, beach
* berth, birth
* blew, blue
* bouy, boy
* brake, break
* burro, burrow
* bury, berry
* by, bye, buy
* capitol, capital
* carat, caret, carrot
* days, daze
* doe, d'oh, dough
* ewe, you
* eye, i, aye
* fare, fair
* hete, hate
* know, no
* knew, new
* lone, loan
* meat, meet
* night, knight
* principal, principle
* read (past tense: /rĕd/), red
* read (nonpast tense: /rēd/), reed, rede
* right, write, rite
* scent, cent, sent
* see, sea
* seed, cede
* stationary, stationery
* their, there, they're
* threw, through
* to, too, two
* told, tolled
* waist, waste
* wale, wail , whale
* whole, hole
* wood, would
* your, you're
(from wikipedia)

GET OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS, YOU FILTHY ABOMINATIONS!
Eurgrovia
19-04-2007, 01:59
Is there a national day of noise which will be an active day of protest against the bullying and harassment of homophones and straights? :confused:
I don't know...it will probably be on the same day of the protest that fights against discrimination of racists and humans. :rolleyes:
Futuris
19-04-2007, 02:01
It's not about solving the problem, it's about brining attention to it.
Myu in the Middle
19-04-2007, 02:21
GET OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS, YOU FILTHY ABOMINATIONS!
Two Dam Write!

*Is subjected to a beating with two snare drums and a cymbal, providing the required rimshot in the process*
South Lizasauria
19-04-2007, 02:24
* bare, bear
* be, bee
* beech, beach
* berth, birth
* blew, blue
* bouy, boy
* brake, break
* burro, burrow
* bury, berry
* by, bye, buy
* capitol, capital
* carat, caret, carrot
* days, daze
* doe, d'oh, dough
* ewe, you
* eye, i, aye
* fare, fair
* hete, hate
* know, no
* knew, new
* lone, loan
* meat, meet
* night, knight
* principal, principle
* read (past tense: /rĕd/), red
* read (nonpast tense: /rēd/), reed, rede
* right, write, rite
* scent, cent, sent
* see, sea
* seed, cede
* stationary, stationery
* their, there, they're
* threw, through
* to, too, two
* told, tolled
* waist, waste
* wale, wail , whale
* whole, hole
* wood, would
* your, you're
(from wikipedia)

GET OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS, YOU FILTHY ABOMINATIONS!

For smeg sake it was only a typo! :rolleyes:
Neesika
19-04-2007, 02:27
For someone who claims to understand symbolism...you sure fail at understanding symbolism.
Neesika
19-04-2007, 02:29
Is there a national day of noise which will be an active day of protest against the bullying and harassment of homophones and straights? :confused:

Sorry...homophobes and straights are being bullied for their anti-gay stance and/or sexuality?
No wonder you had to use the confused smiley.
South Lizasauria
19-04-2007, 02:29
For someone who claims to understand symbolism...you sure fail at understanding symbolism.

Says you. I understand it. Why do you think I don't?
Arthais101
19-04-2007, 02:34
Is there a national day of noise which will be an active day of protest against the bullying and harassment of homophones and straights? :confused:

buh?
Neesika
19-04-2007, 02:35
Says you. I understand it. Why do you think I don't?

Um...you haven't said anywhere in this thread that you understand symbolism. Why would I attempt to refute a claim you haven't made?

Are you making that claim now? Is there something about this symbolic action that you do not understand?
Neesika
19-04-2007, 02:36
buh?

Yes, apparently it would only be fair to protest the horrendous discrimination homophobes are subject to. And straight people. Yeah. Made fun of because they aren't gay. Not recognising this tragedy makes you a terrible person.
Gartref
19-04-2007, 02:42
I protest homophones Knightly.
Omfgwtfbbqlolz
19-04-2007, 02:42
That's why a day of tourettes would be so much better. Think about it, there's no getting around it. But it would be a bit of a waste to use it on something so serious, it would have to be for something far sillier. It would kind of lose the awkward symbolism that happens once a year in most Massachusetts schools.
South Lizasauria
19-04-2007, 03:11
Sorry...homophobes and straights are being bullied for their anti-gay stance and/or sexuality?
No wonder you had to use the confused smiley.


even straights who aren't anti-gay get bullied and I don't get why homophobes should be picked on, its like picking on someone for being afraid of bugs. Its cruel! Note that homophobes get busted legally just for being afraid and some gays want every straight dead, and they have even gone to the effort to start using science to make it so that straight sex is no longer needed to procreate. (http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article2444462.ece)


Um...you haven't said anywhere in this thread that you understand symbolism. Why would I attempt to refute a claim you haven't made?

Are you making that claim now? Is there something about this symbolic action that you do not understand?

For someone who claims to understand symbolism...you sure fail at understanding symbolism.

You said I did.
Neesika
19-04-2007, 03:17
even straights who aren't anti-gay get bulliedFor being straight?

Yeah, no. Not a big problem, sorry. Packs of gays aren't going around beating up straights.


and I don't get why homophobes should be picked on, its like picking on someone for being afraid of bugs. Its cruel!Sorry, homophobes aren't scared of gays, they are prejudiced against them. Not putting up with their shit is not the same as persecution.



Note that homophobes get busted legally just for being afraidI can't believe you are really trying to push the 'a phobia is a fear, therefore homophobes are deathly afraid of gays, it's not hate...bullshit.

and some gays want every straight dead, and they have even gone to the effort to start using science to make it so that straight sex is no longer needed to procreate. (http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article2444462.ece) Oh noez! :rolleyes:

This is so infantile, I'm really not going to waste my time.




You said I did.
No, I was referring to the person who, in this thread, said they got the symbolism...but clearly did not. Again I ask...was that you? No. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you were not at all present in my thoughts when I posted that.
South Lizasauria
19-04-2007, 03:24
For being straight?

Yeah, no. Not a big problem, sorry. Packs of gays aren't going around beating up straights.

If you fish up the "Men are obsolete" thread I'm sure you'll find a link I posted of lesbians attacking a guy for being straight.
Soheran
19-04-2007, 03:26
Because when you shout every other day of the year and nobody gives a damn....
Soheran
19-04-2007, 03:30
HOWEVER, they fail to realize that 90% of their audience fails to make the connection.

And 99% of their audience would be completely ignoring them if they were talking.

Sometimes silence is louder.

(But, yes, the given justification is rather weak.)
Flatus Minor
19-04-2007, 03:48
It's not about solving the problem, it's about brining attention to it.

I agree - let's not do anything brackish. You could end up with a salt and battery.
Soheran
19-04-2007, 03:49
It's not about solving the problem, it's about brining attention to it.

Which, of course, is the first step to solving anything.
Soviestan
19-04-2007, 05:07
What a fucking worthless protest.

Just how fucking stupid.



At least we agree on this point. Should be noted though, I don't see the point to most protests.
Dobbsworld
19-04-2007, 05:43
It's not about solving the problem, it's about brining attention to it.

Mmm, brine.
Erastide
19-04-2007, 05:44
Personally, I think it can be quite worthwhile in the school setting where I teach. Classrooms lose the voices of students who normally may be quite outspoken (in a good way) and people notice.

This year the implementation wasn't as good at the school, most people didn't have badges or signs to indicate they were staying silent.
North Calaveras
19-04-2007, 05:49
Im sorry but gay is just wrong and your getting this from a communist, 'We are all created equal" its not natural and dont act like we should respect something that is against nature. It downright disgusting i dont want to offend anyone but are you kidding me!
Soheran
19-04-2007, 05:53
its not natural

Why not?

dont act like we should respect something that is against nature

Why shouldn't we?
Ladamesansmerci
19-04-2007, 05:53
I don't know about the national day of silence, but I got a pretty rainbow headband out of it. ^.^
Kamanawannalaya
19-04-2007, 06:08
I don't know about the national day of silence, but I got a pretty rainbow headband out of it. ^.^

Screenies, please? *is jealous*
Gartref
19-04-2007, 06:16
Personally, I think it can be quite worthwhile in the school setting where I teach. Classrooms lose the voices of students who normally may be quite outspoken (in a good way) and people notice.

This year the implementation wasn't as good at the school, most people didn't have badges or signs to indicate they were staying silent.

As a teacher, you'd grasp at any idea that included the kids being silent for just one day. :D
Gartref
19-04-2007, 06:17
I agree - let's not do anything brackish. You could end up with a salt and battery.

...and then you'd be in a pickle.
Kamanawannalaya
19-04-2007, 06:21
Im sorry but gay is just wrong and your getting this from a communist, 'We are all created equal" its not natural and dont act like we should respect something that is against nature. It downright disgusting i dont want to offend anyone but are you kidding me!

Dolphins and baboons are unnatural? Someone better tell them :eek:
SimNewtonia
19-04-2007, 09:23
I agree - let's not do anything brackish. You could end up with a salt and battery.

Ka boom tish! :D
Divine Imaginary Fluff
19-04-2007, 11:48
That's why a day of tourettes would be so much better.As a person with Tourette's, I must say: your suggestion tics me off.


[/punditry (the first part is true, though)]
Zarakon
19-04-2007, 20:06
even straights who aren't anti-gay get bullied

Uh...yeah...the majority of people who get bullied aren't gay. That's kinda how it works.

and I don't get why homophobes should be picked on, its like picking on someone for being afraid of bugs.

Did...you just compare gay people to bugs?

Do you even TRY to sound slightly nuts instead of comically insane anymore?
Zarakon
19-04-2007, 20:09
For being straight?

Yeah, no. Not a big problem, sorry. Packs of gays aren't going around beating up straights.


Yeah...not to mention you don't hear about "Straight Drags" very often.


No, I was referring to the person who, in this thread, said they got the symbolism...but clearly did not. Again I ask...was that you? No. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you were not at all present in my thoughts when I posted that.

I understand the symbolism. It's supposed to represent the silencing of GLBT individuals through bullying and harassment. It's still not a good protest.
CthulhuFhtagn
19-04-2007, 22:54
Dolphins and baboons are unnatural? Someone better tell them :eek:

Not just Dolphins and baboons, this would be...

The clade Tetrapoda. Which is every vertebrate that isn't a fish.
Zarakon
19-04-2007, 23:10
Transgendered Sea Anemone Denounced As 'Abomination' By Clergy

HUNTSVILLE, AL—A coalition of Baptist clergymen spoke out Monday against the Telia felina, a transgendered sea anemone they are decrying as "base and depraved."
"This filthy anemone, which exhibits both male and female characteristics, is turning our oceans' intertidal zones into dens of sin and perversion," said Rev. William Chester, spokesman for the Save Our Seas Coalition, a Huntsville-based activist group dedicated to "the preservation of aquatic decency and morality." "For God knows how long, this twisted sea creature has been running rampant in our oceans, spreading its unnatural, bisexual lifestyle. And it's high time somebody took a stand."

The controversial anemone, common to warm-water reefs and basins worldwide, has been practicing its alternative sexual lifestyle at least as far back as 1859, when Charles Darwin first catalogued its phylum and species. Since then, over 40 subspecies of Telia felina have been identified as dually gendered.

The Baptist group also strongly denounced the anemone's reproductive habits and family structure.

"Unlike so many respectable, God-fearing creatures, the Telia felina reproduces asexually, openly mocking traditional family values by giving birth to and raising its young in a single-parent setting," Chester said. "This anti-Christian anemone, which has the audacity to think that a child can grow up properly without the benefit of two loving parents, is truly the Murphy Brown of the deep."

Added Chester: "If you still doubt the pain and suffering wrought by this undersea abomination, just look into the eyes of a young anemone child forced to grow up wondering why Mommy and Daddy live in the same body. This, my friends, is not natural."

As part of its campaign against the invertebrate, Save Our Seas is calling upon Greenpeace and other environmental groups to cease their defense of endangered species and regions that fail to uphold high moral standards. The group is also threatening a boycott of aquariums that display the Telia felina or any other creature of questionable character.

"Is this the kind of marine invertebrate we want our children to see on their school field trips to the aquarium?" Chester asked. "By putting this sort of filth on display in our nation's aquariums—aquariums that are often federally funded with your tax dollars—we send our children the message that the transsexual lifestyle is not merely to be accepted, but encouraged."

"It is truly sad to see what could have been an upstanding Christian creature cross over to a life of depravity and abasement," Pastor Kenneth Boyle, director of the Loaves And Fishes Academy Of Christian Marine Biology, said of the Telia felina. "Just look at its flamboyant bright green and gold coloration. And its hundreds of effeminate tentacles, which sway back and forth temptingly in an effort to lure the spiritually weak. The Bible says that on the fifth day, God filled the oceans with living creatures, but surely this is not what He intended."

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29260
Ant swain
19-04-2007, 23:46
*silence*

I refuse to speak for another 11 mins when it is tomorrow (BST)
Sel Appa
20-04-2007, 01:00
If I were a radical, I would lynch GLBT and their jibjab. However, I am not a radical and therefore laugh at them for being stupid. GLBT have all the rights they need and should get. They are demanding special treatment because they are some mutated f***-up...yes f***-up of Nature.

*awaits ban or angry mob (hopefully the latter)*
New Genoa
20-04-2007, 01:43
So when's national day of violence?