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Hello all! I joined the fourms a week ago and im having a really good time, though one thing always bothers me. And that thing is the complete hate for the Communism.

Thread after thread after thread is OMFG! COMMUNISTS ARE ATTAXING ME, or people wanting to play world police and attack every "vile" communist country. Now i know that people have their right to RP as they want but what is with the hatred for communism? Why do people with little to no understanding of it have this blind hatred for it? I notice that newer nations who want to be the "bad guy" also play the communist and i don't understand why.

Ill assume that because the world tends to veiw communism as a Stalin-like government, or an evil USSR empire. But its not always so.

Im a bit confused and would like to hear what others think about this. Not sure if it is alot of major Right-like people playing this game or if people just don't understand Communism.

A lot of the people that oppose communism are not on the 'right' or 'left' as usually defined. They are often libertarians, constitutionalists, and other small government/big let people live free sort of people

This forum contains a Wayback Machine which people still fighting the Cold War Red Scare come through. A few people still weirded out by 'goths' get through now and then.

Something to do with the fact that more people were killed in the name of Communism than fascism and Nazism combined, perchance?

Something to do with the fact that more people were killed in the name of Communism than fascism and Nazism combined, perchance?

*waits for the 'they weren't real Communists' argument*

*waits for the 'they weren't real Communists' argument*

Already considered and short circuited. Note the careful use of the phrase 'in the name of...'.

Im sure you can find even more killed in the name of "fredom"(though communism is freedom in someforms, non in others)


Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot.

Your turn.

Im sure you can find even more killed in the name of "freedom"(though communism is freedom in some forms, not in others)

Communism is just like any other ideaology it has it radicals, its authoritarians, its libratarians. I find my self a Anarcho-synd.(witch is Left-lib.)

Im sure you can find even more killed in the name of "freedom"(though communism is freedom in some forms, not in others)

Freedom isn't an ideology.

Naming people wasn't what i ment but ok

George W. Bush
George Bush
Mao*
Stalin*
Pol Pot*
(insert name of any leader how fought in a war)



*= argued that they were freeing people from classes

Now i really don't support Moa or Stalin, though i argee with them on some economic issues, just like i dont expect all right-sided people to agree with the current american government

Naming people wasn't what i ment but ok

George W. Bush
George Bush
Mao*
Stalin*
Pol Pot*
(insert name of any leader how fought in a war)



*= argued that they were freeing people from classes

Now i really don't support Moa or Stalin, though i argee with them on some economic issues, just like i dont expect all right-sided people to agree with the current american government


I despise the current administration, but comparing them to Stalin or Pol Pot is just weak at best.

Communism won't work until you eliminate greed from human behavior. Until then it's just another excuse for tyranny.

Naming people wasn't what i ment but ok


George Bush...

The deaths of how many people do you reckon George Bush is responsible for? Unless we're talking multi-millions here he ain't a drop in the ocean compared to Luporum's triad.

Naming people wasn't what i ment but ok

George W. Bush
George Bush
Mao*
Stalin*
Pol Pot*
(insert name of any leader how fought in a war)



*= argued that they were freeing people from classes

Now i really don't support Moa or Stalin, though i argee with them on some economic issues, just like i dont expect all right-sided people to agree with the current american government

You'll actually find a lot of people on Nationstates General are left leaning in some aspects - from mildly left of centre to waaaaaaay out there with the anarchists.

it sort of depends on what you mean by 'left'

people have used left to describe Democrats, Communists, Anarchists, etc.

while they are vastly different.

Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot.

Your turn.Democracy killed 40,000 French back when Paris only had a population around 630,000.

actually, communism was a good idea intitially. Everyone is equal in almost every way. However, the Russians and now the Chinese kind of messed it up. We Americans see our country as ultimite freedom, while we see Communism as a kind of evil dictatorship. I have now just realised this post has no point, and am going to shut up now.

ok i realize that im not going to get any answers that i was looking for out of this thread, with the exception of Not sure what Name Posi and the guy above me...anyhow looking at your political compass id say we are pretty much alike considering my compass is on soical aspect -5.50
and on eco. aspect im a -5.78


BTW anarchists can be just as much right as they are left.....anarchy is only anti-authority

ok i realize that im not going to get any answers that i was looking for out of this thread, with the exception of Not sure what Name...anyhow looking at your political compass id say we are pretty much alike considering my compass is on soical aspect -5.50
and on eco. aspect im a -5.78

You asked why some people hate communism, and we told you. Sorry if you didn't get the answer you obviously wanted - 'because the people of NS are ignorant fools and need a person to show them the light'.

Democracy killed 40,000 French back when Paris only had a population around 630,000.

Pol Pot killed 250,000 out of a million in four years.

That count is still going up if you count all the land mine fatalities in Cambodia.

Democracy killed 40,000 French back when Paris only had a population around 630,000.People died in other places than Paris during the reign of terror. Pol Pot killed 1,500,000 Cambodians back when Cambodia had a population of less than 10,000,000.

communism has a very bad track record. that leads people to feel free to suggest that its not a good real world idea.

... my compass is on soical aspect -5.50
and on eco. aspect im a -5.78

I find my self a Anarcho-synd.(witch is Left-lib.)

A surprising result. Anarcho-syndicalists tend to be somewhere around -8/-8 in these parts.

I haven't noticed that much animosity toward people that are communist. There are a few members who frequently make such remarks, but there are plenty of communists on this board, Soheran being a notable one.

Very surprising as that posters score is quite similar to my own - and I consider myself barely a moderate Laboury type voter (not UK Labour) except slightly more centre.

Yeah, well we know the so-called centre ground in the UK and in (wild guess as to the poster's origin) the US are located in very different places, which may have something to do with it.

TW!

A surprising result. Anarcho-syndicalists tend to be somewhere around -8/-8 in these parts.

Very surprising as that posters score is quite similar to my own - and I consider myself barely a moderate Laboury type voter (not UK Labour) except slightly more centre.

Well, Soheran has a communist slant.....from his posts, he leans more towards authoritarian than strict communist. But, it is true, you can find pretty much any possible political view right here on nation states.

A surprising result. Anarcho-syndicalists tend to be somewhere around -8/-8 in these parts.

-6 -6, to -8 -8 only two points off...and considering that you can't always get your point across in those tests

I dislike commies because they are political emos who smell a bit and their clothing is depressingly drab.

You know how many people the communists killed, son‽ Over NINE THOUSAND!

(Well, a lot more, but I was just looking for an excuse to say that.)

The real reason so many people here hate communism is because we drink bottled water, ensuring that our bodily fluids are not impurified by fluoridated tap water and rendered helpless to communist indoctrination. It's true. I took a poll about it the other day.

Also, a number of people said John Travolta was a great actor. If that isn't proof of mind control, I don't know what is. And no, Pulp Fiction doesn't count.

that really made me giggle.....it also explains why i dont drink botteld water

Hello all! I joined the fourms a week ago and im having a really good time, though one thing always bothers me. And that thing is the complete hate for the Communism.

Thread after thread after thread is OMFG! COMMUNISTS ARE ATTAXING ME, or people wanting to play world police and attack every "vile" communist country. Now i know that people have their right to RP as they want but what is with the hatred for communism? Why do people with little to no understanding of it have this blind hatred for it? I notice that newer nations who want to be the "bad guy" also play the communist and i don't understand why.

Ill assume that because the world tends to veiw communism as a Stalin-like government, or an evil USSR empire. But its not always so.

Im a bit confused and would like to hear what others think about this. Not sure if it is alot of major Right-like people playing this game or if people just don't understand Communism.

I just view communism as impractical for a country. It works in a village or a town, but not a larger group.

Something to do with the fact that more people were killed in the name of Communism than fascism and Nazism combined, perchance?

But still fewer than have been killed in the name of God.

But still fewer than have been killed in the name of God.

Yeah, but religion has had like 100,000 years. Communism had 74.

But still fewer than have been killed in the name of God.

I wouldn't be so sure. Communism is usually given a toll of about 100 million, give or take. What do you reckon for Jehovah?

Communism had 74.

74? Eh? Communism wasn't invented in Russia, you know.

74? Eh? Communism wasn't invented in Russia, you know.

Communism as an applied political system. The theory's a lot older but it was only officially used in the USSR and other countries of similar affiliation.

Communism as an applied political system.

...which pre-empts Domici's question of the death toll in the name of God.

God ain't no applied political system.

Ill assume that because the world tends to veiw communism as a Stalin-like government, or an evil USSR empire. But its not always so.


Feel free to cite examples to the contrary.

...which pre-empts Domici's question of the death toll in the name of God.

God ain't no applied political system.

God himself, no. Religion was, however. God is to religion as Marx or Lenin are to Communism.

More accurately, the concept and the application of that concept are two different things. It wasn't Communism that killed those people, it was Communism as put in to practice that killed them. The same goes with God and religion.

And that thing is the complete hate for the Communism.

Strangely enough, most people have the opposite reaction: "This board is infested with communists!"

Because it is.