NationStates Jolt Archive

I was sitting here procrastinating, not doing my paper thats due in about 10 hrs, and well, I was drawing on a map of Illinois, and as most of you know, I favor a south illinois-north illinois split. Well, I was just wondering how you'd divide up your state/province/territory, based on social and cultural terms and such.

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Basically, Southern Illinois technically starts about effingham and goes south, but I include anything under Springfield, as they have a common culture with the rest of us good ol' folk :)

Nevada's easy, just lop off Clark County, of course Las Vegas would quickly run out of water and the rest of the state's economy would tank, but the bi-anual argument between North and South going on in the state captial would come to a halt.

Nevada's easy, just lop off Clark County, of course Las Vegas would quickly run out of water and the rest of the state's economy would tank, but the bi-anual argument between North and South going on in the state captial would come to a halt.

Ah, its a north south thing there too? I know in many states its east west, PA, or MO.

Y'all are thinking too much in the 2D.
Let's add some depth to the chopping up, eh?
Say, every 19 yards or so deep?

Y'all are thinking too much in the 2D.
Let's add some depth to the chopping up, eh?
Say, every 19 yards or so deep?

going for the gnomes, eh?

For CT, I'd give the southwest (fairfield) to NY.
for MA, I'd drop all of Western MA (west of Worcester)

going for the gnomes, eh?Hey old man, whassup?! :D
I was thinking more like voles and nematodes, but your idea is good. I'm just going with what i've had more success with.

Hey old man, whassup?! :D
I was thinking more like voles and nematodes, but your idea is good. I'm just going with what i've had more success with.

haha...saw you posting and felt the need to follow suit.

Sadly, I'm on the worlds slowest desktop (my laptop died) along with a few really rough weeks, so I haven't been on NSG nearly as much as normal.

However, today was Marathon Monday, and I've been drunk since 10 AM (sober-ish now, however) so I can tolerate the slow speeds of teh interwebs.

Ah, its a north south thing there too? I know in many states its east west, PA, or MO.
Yup, though honestly it's more of the highly urban area that is the Las Vegas Valley vs the much more rual rest of the state.

There's also a lot to do with old vs new as well.

haha...saw you posting and felt the need to follow suit.Any suit will do, but the birthday and the straightjacket- type suit best. :)


Sadly, I'm on the worlds slowest desktop (my laptop died) along with a few really rough weeks, so I haven't been on NSG nearly as much as normal.I get to it an hour before work in the morning and when other things are going on - like avoiding watching Caruso's insipid physical posturing on CSI: Miami.

However, today was Marathon Monday, and I've been drunk since 10 AM (sober-ish now, however) so I can tolerate the slow speeds of teh interwebs.Ah, that would, in most circumstance, match wit w/posters like myself!

The city of Toronto or the Greater Toronto Area should become its own province in Canada. :eek:

Gee, I wonder how we would divide up Michigan...

Any suit will do, but the birthday and the straightjacket- type suit best. :)*looks down*


Birthday suit it is!

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I get to it an hour before work in the morning and when other things are going on - like avoiding watching Caruso's insipid physical posturing on CSI: Miami.CSI of any form=evil. As does this blister on my pinky. I'm not sure were it came from. UPI! (unidentified party injury) Call CSI!

Ah, that would, in most circumstance, match wit w/posters like myself!
*ahem*
see above...;)

Gee, I wonder how we would divide up Michigan...

sink the whole damn thing?

sink the whole damn thing?

Indeed, our Awesomeness adds substantial mass to our state. We've had to build many supports over the years.

*looks down*


Birthday suit it is!

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>.>Yay!
I would have donned similarly, 'cept the cat seems to have "The Rips" today, and i don't want any unintended piercings. *nods emphatically*


CSI of any form=evil. As does this blister on my pinky. I'm not sure were it came from. UPI! (unidentified party injury) Call CSI!
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*ahem*
see above...;)Something along those lines. :)

Indeed, our Awesomeness adds substantial mass to our state. We've had to build many supports over the years.

Of course it does!

*pats on head*

New York is easy too. Everything above Yonkers can take it's breathtaking natural beauty and shove it where the sun don't shine, and I don't mean Jersey. Or maybe I do mean Jersey:p

Of course it does!

*pats on head*

You know it.

Indeed, it is impossible to a Foreigner to gaze upon the greatness that is Michigan, for they will be blinded by it's glory.

I'd make Philadelphia into a state.

We can't afford to be split up! If anything, we need to combine New England into one super-state.

Missouri's tricky to divide up. I'd say that there are four distinct cultural/geographical regions, namely:

- The greater St. Louis area
- The greater Kansas City area
- The Ozarks
- Everywhere else

...which would make for some rather funny-looking borders. :p

But if I'm limited to two parts, I would say that the Ozarks are slightly more distinct from the eastern and western portions of the state than the eastern and western portions are from each other, and therefore create North and South Missouri.

Missouri's tricky to divide up. I'd say that there are four distinct cultural/geographical regions, namely:

- The greater St. Louis area
- The greater Kansas City area
- The Ozarks
- Everywhere else

...which would make for some rather funny-looking borders. :p

But if I'm limited to two parts, I would say that the Ozarks are slightly more distinct from the eastern and western portions of the state than the eastern and western portions are from each other, and therefore create North and South Missouri.

I think St. Louis would make a fitting addition to South Illinois. :)

I think St. Louis would make a fitting addition to South Illinois. :)

Nah, we need St. Louis. Without it, I'd be living in a red state instead of a swing state.

My town.
The local area.
Other.

Ah, its a north south thing there too? I know in many states its east west, PA, or MO.

In good old MA, it's east and west as well. Of course, I've rarely been anywhere in the west. That's where you run up into the Berkshires.

The city of Toronto or the Greater Toronto Area should become its own province in Canada. :eek:
Draw the line between Saskatchewan an Manitoba. You can do whatever you want east of that line.

But we're taking our natural resources (we're keeping Yukon, too) and going home.

Gee, I wonder how we would divide up Michigan...

Uh-uh. The UP exists solely for us to rub in Ohio's face.

New York is easy too. Everything above Yonkers can take it's breathtaking natural beauty and shove it where the sun don't shine, and I don't mean Jersey. Or maybe I do mean Jersey:p

NO!!!! Don't kick me out!!

How bout everything Dutchess county and below East of the Hudson?

In good old MA, it's east and west as well. Of course, I've rarely been anywhere in the west. That's where you run up into the Berkshires.

Why do you think the Wicked Witch is from the west? The west of anything is evil!

I personally think the Auckland Region is in too many bits right now (four cities and three districts) - make it one big happy family ruled by a Lord Mayor.

By the way, in New Zealand, we don't have provinces per-se - the closest thing we have are regional councils.

Georgia should be divided into Atlanta* and then everyone else. We might take Savannah and parts of Macon, too.

*Atlanta here refers to the Atlanta metro area. Well, most of it anyways. =)

I would carve up Ohio into five parts - northeast, including Cleveland; northwest, including Toledo; southwest, including Cincinnati; southeast, including the stoner lands of Ohio University; and Central Ohio. Maybe a sixth state for Amish country. Then, if any part proved to suck too much, I would wipe it off the face of the Earth.

North Carolina has traditionally been divided into three geographic regions: mountains, piedmont, coastal plains. But if you divided them politically along those lines, all of the money would be in the state of Piedmont, and all of the military would be in the state of Coastal Carolina. Meanwhile, the state of Blue Ridge would only have scenery, and you can't eat scenery. So that's a bad idea.

So let's try a different approach. The Charlotte metro area would finally realize its long-held dream of becoming the Great State of Mecklenburg. The Piedmont Triad (Greensboro, Winston-Salem, High Point) would be combined with the northern mountains to become the State of Boone. Chapel Hill, Durham and northeastern Chatham County would become the tiny state of Blue Carolina. The southwestern mountains would become the State of Cherokee - hey, we could just let the Eastern Band Cherokee have the whole place back, and kill two birds with one stone. Raleigh and the northeastern coastal plains would be the State of Tobacco. The rest of the coastal plains, including Fayetteville, Goldsboro, Jacksonville, and Wilmington, would become the State of Militaria. And the Outer Banks would become the State of Erosion, for as long as they lasted.

:p

Oh, well I've planned for this contingency for some time. With the large amount of armoured vehicles I've been stockpiling in Oshawa, (utilizing the many auto assembly lines of course), I would immediately strike at Toronto, and take all its splendid treasures.

With my new capital in Greater Oshawa, I would then divide Ontario into the Greater Oshawa Area (consisting of most of the GTA), Southwestern Ontario (West of Mississauga and south to the US border, with it's capital in Hamilton), Eastern Ontario (I'd be very tempted to smush Ottawa, but a friend lives there, and I'll install her as my puppet ruler) and Northern Ontario (with a brother of mine as Regent of Sudbury and the North.)

I would then politely march my forces through Manitoba, and then proceed to carve strips out of Western Canada and sell them off to Trinidad and Tobago, just to spite Llewdor. :D

I'd stop for coffee at Neesika's, and then proceed home and wish Quebec a fond farewell, and give a warm welcome to any maritmers who feel like dropping by.

The North is Welcome to keep its frostiness to itself.

If I was going to seriously divide NI up it would be one of two ways
a) unionist / nationalist (who would join the republic)
b) east / west

The problem with A is that NI is such a patchwork or unionist and nationalist that you could never do it. There would be enclaves of both sides everywhere, in the middle of towns, cities, and the countryside.

B would be pretty much wealthy (east) vs not so wealthy (west). The problem there is that the east relies on the west and the west relies on the west.

No way, really, of splitting NI.

Why do you think the Wicked Witch is from the west? The west of anything is evil!

Hey, western Massachusetts is very definitely not evil! I've never encountered a more beautiful and pleasant place than the Berkshire mountains, and I'd dearly love to move back there.

I've often said that Western Mass should secede from Mass as a whole...only half sarcastically. That's not because I have any dislike for Eastern Mass. If Western Mass had it's own state government tending to it, we might have a decent education system and tidier roads. (Halelujah). We've even got separate hand signs!..I vote we cut Mass down the middle with a line of red maple trees.

I would divide Kentucky into two states, "Northern Kentucky" and "Kentucky".

"Northern Kentucky" is the part that's always confused with "Cincinnati, Ohio" and it drives a lot of people around here nuts. Especially me, because I hate Ohio. I can go on and on about how terrible Ohio is. Just take the seven northernmost counties and make them into a new state, and then the rest of Kentucky can let be.

Draw the line between Saskatchewan an Manitoba. You can do whatever you want east of that line.

But we're taking our natural resources (we're keeping Yukon, too) and going home.
Goddamn Albertan western blocs. Don't drag the rest of us with you, damn it.

I would then politely march my forces through Manitoba, and then proceed to carve strips out of Western Canada and sell them off to Trinidad and Tobago, just to spite Llewdor. :D
We BC-ers like being Canadian.

...actually, if the new capital of Canada is going to be Oshawa, we'll sell ourselves to the Americans and each citizen will get a million dollars. *nods*

Farewell, Ontario federalist suckers!

(NB: I withdraw my about statement about "goddamn western blocks".)

Dividing Texas is easy - after all, Austin is actually a separate state that just happens to have the state capital in it...

I've often said that Western Mass should secede from Mass as a whole...only half sarcastically. That's not because I have any dislike for Eastern Mass. If Western Mass had it's own state government tending to it, we might have a decent education system and tidier roads. (Halelujah). We've even got separate hand signs!..I vote we cut Mass down the middle with a line of red maple trees.

The east supports this. You can have Worcester and all the hookers.

Dividing Texas is easy - after all, Austin is actually a separate state that just happens to have the state capital in it...

This is a good place to mention that famous Texas trivia point that the annexation treaty stipulation on dividing Texas into 5 states.

Here's one way of doing it: Northeast Texas + Dallas + the Panhandle, Southeast Texas + Houston, Cental Texas including San Antonia and Austin, West Texas, and South Texas. This pattern actually follows the demographic and cultural patterns of the state pretty well.


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That could also be adjusted to group South Texas with West Texas, and split the North between the Panhandle and Dallas + East Texas.

I favor a south illinois-north illinois split.

bah

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I'd make Philadelphia into a state.That works. The rest of PA east of Johnstown can be another state. And this side of PA can be a third state.

That works. The rest of PA east of Johnstown can be another state. And this side of PA can be a third state.

So it is written, So it shall be done.

North West/ South East split through Penona and Boomington.

Goddamn Albertan western blocs. Don't drag the rest of us with you, damn it.

We BC-ers like being Canadian.

...actually, if the new capital of Canada is going to be Oshawa, we'll sell ourselves to the Americans and each citizen will get a million dollars. *nods*

Farewell, Ontario federalist suckers!

(NB: I withdraw my about statement about "goddamn western blocks".)

Well, I'd rather keep Canada intact, but if Llewdor's taking the west out of it, then I'm going to take the opportunity to carve my own personal fief... and disrupt Llewdor's enjoyment of a 'free west'.

And Oshawa's already the seat of your political masters, you just haven't realized it yet.

Well, I'd rather keep Canada intact, but if Llewdor's taking the west out of it, then I'm going to take the opportunity to carve my own personal fief... and disrupt Llewdor's enjoyment of a 'free west'.

And Oshawa's already the seat of your political masters, you just haven't realized it yet.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! My worse nightmare has come true! :eek:

Well, at least it's not Hamilton.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! My worse nightmare has come true! :eek:

Well, at least it's not Hamilton.

It's true. Turns out there was a spelling error on all those cheques destined to the Finance Minister and they ended up in Oshawa instead of Ottawa.

I just pinned a big 'Finance Minister' name tag on my chest and joyfully collected all the taxes.


And only a really cruel individual would make Hamilton the capital. I am merely 'partially' cruel.

Western Australia can't affiord to be split up. It's really too big to be just one state (it's bigger than Alaska) but there's practically no population outside the SouthWest Corner save Port Hedland (about halfway up) and Kalgoorlie (about halfway in).

On the other hand, WA definitely should secede from the rest of Australia. WA gets nothing from the Federation and has to pay for the privilege!

Western Australia can't affiord to be split up. It's really too big to be just one state (it's bigger than Alaska) but there's practically no population outside the SouthWest Corner save Port Hedland (about halfway up) and Kalgoorlie (about halfway in).

On the other hand, WA definitely should secede from the rest of Australia. WA gets nothing from the Federation and has to pay for the privilege!

true

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! My worse nightmare has come true! :eek:

Well, at least it's not Hamilton.
Hey, what's wrong with Hamilton?

Also, am I the only one who thinks that the US should be mashing states together instead of splitting them up? Fifty is already too many, damnit.