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But dude... she's SEVEN!

Neekchi
14-04-2007, 20:27
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!
Katganistan
14-04-2007, 20:31
Why do your parents let her have her own MySpace account? Why aren't they supervising her on the internet?

They ought to let her scream until she faints rather than let her do something so stupidly dangerous as to go online alone and talk about having sex with strangers.
Kryozerkia
14-04-2007, 20:33
Dude, that's just messed up.

Tell your parents that this is going too far and you refuse to babysit for her ever unless they work to curb this behaviour of hers. It sounds like she's spoiled and like one of those girls who's going to be dried up and used by the time she's 19; she'll be totally wasted.

Don't talk to the child directly. You're not the parent. You will only frustrate yourself. Talk to your folks and make your position clear and if they don't do anything about it and she acts like this, it won't be your job to pick up the pieces.

You should also consider talking the parents of the 12 yr old girl and setting the record straight. Make it clear that you don't care how they parent their own child, but you don't want their child corrupting your sister and letting her believe that acting like this is normal.
JuNii
14-04-2007, 20:34
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!

your parents KNOWS she's recieving sex offers?
Ashmoria
14-04-2007, 20:35
wow your sister is in trouble.

without parents who will do what is necessary to keep her safe, it is inevitable that she end up ...well...badly.
Neekchi
14-04-2007, 20:36
oh... my parents have found other babysitters... the bad influence next door and the goth chick two doors down...
Desperate Measures
14-04-2007, 20:37
Piss on the modem in order to break it (you may want to unplug it first). Causing your parents to have to buy another one. Repeat. Become more annoying than your sister until you get your way.
Neekchi
14-04-2007, 20:37
my parents try, but it's hard...
Imperial isa
14-04-2007, 20:37
she like this at seven man she lives to be a teenage you really going to be driven mad by her ways
JuNii
14-04-2007, 20:37
my parents try, but it's hard...

dealing with a seven year old... hard?

:headbang:
Neekchi
14-04-2007, 20:38
your parents KNOWS she's recieving sex offers?

yeah, and they've talked to her about it.... it's bad...
Swilatia
14-04-2007, 20:38
good for her.
South Lizasauria
14-04-2007, 20:39
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!

Discipline, and stop all of her bad influences from influencing her.
Ashmoria
14-04-2007, 20:41
my parents try, but it's hard...

no, your parents suck. they are not doing what needs to be done so that your sister can survive to adulthood. she is already in trouble and they are doing nothing to save her.

the only thing you can do is to talk to a councillor at school. they are required by law to report the situation to social services who will come to your house and do what needs to be done.
The_pantless_hero
14-04-2007, 20:44
my parents try, but it's hard...
They obvious havn't tried mocking her.
Darlah
14-04-2007, 20:46
get your parents to beat her, if they dont you beat her when she screams...:sniper: :mp5: :gundge: :upyours:
South Lizasauria
14-04-2007, 20:51
On top of all the suggestions here, send her to a deprogrammer, the sociopaths next door have already brainwashed her along with those bad sites. She needs to be set straight.
Wanderjar
14-04-2007, 20:51
Even I am speechless at this one. In essence, what I would do is confront my parents about hiring the "bad influence next door and the Goth Chick" and tell them: HELL NO!


Make sure your parents know she is recieving sex offers, and tell them to...fix the situation. Thats my advice, no different than the last five peoples, but deffinately the best way to go.


Oh and Darlah.....never come back again.
Soviestan
14-04-2007, 20:55
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!
1. stop letting her watch rap/hip hop videos
2. actually monitor watch she does online
3. stop letting her see the 12 old year next door.
4. Start actually parenting. I mean seriously. Wtf.
Swilatia
14-04-2007, 20:57
get your parents to beat her, if they dont you beat her when she screams...:sniper: :mp5: :gundge: :upyours:
Wake up. Gun smileys do not make your argument stronger.
German Nightmare
14-04-2007, 20:59
That's messed up.

What the hell are your parents doing?
South Lizasauria
14-04-2007, 21:00
Oh and Darlah.....never come back again.

You can't judge a person by just one post, my first post thread here was horrendous compared to her post, she deserves to stay.

Sociopaths are targeting your sister because she's next generation, the future, ruining the next generation is a big score for them, heck they like many groups use propaganda now or else they wouldn't have gotten your sister the way she was. Your family must protect her or else whats the point of having a family?! Restrict internet access for her or make bad sites forbidden, then send her to a phychiatrist or get other forms of help also keep the bad influences away from her. And she's a brat, discipline the brat and she'll learn, I bet they smacked you when you did the same, or you wouldn't be mature enough to know she's become corrupted. And stop her from listening to bad music. Music affects the way we thing. Really, I know, everyone in the neighborhood is brainwashed by one band or another, they'd get A+ on tests on music while getting lower scores on things like science and math.
Neekchi
14-04-2007, 21:00
my parents are a wet noodle when it comes to parenting. they don't do crap. i try to parent her, but she screams and i get in trouble and am told that "i'm not her parent"...
Wanderjar
14-04-2007, 21:01
my parents are a wet noodle when it comes to parenting. they don't do crap. i try to parent her, but she screams and i get in trouble and am told that "i'm not her parent"...

*Sneezes* Social Services! *Sneezes*
Warshrike
14-04-2007, 21:01
Your sister is um... Dude, she's 7.

You should put in, try and save her. I don't have a sister myself, but I know a lot of girls who are heading that way, or have already. Where I live, some take up habits like smoking at around 5. I'm serious.
And even if your sister can't be saved by you, there's always the hope that when she's older she'll see what's happening to her... If not, you've seen what your parents are doing, so you'll know what not to do if YOU have children.

But seriously... she's 7??

Maybe you could even get your parents to read this thread, I think it's obvious that you have a deep concern for her wellbeing, and sometimes Parents forget that they're meant to, and just want a child to SEEM happy so it's less fussy.
Neekchi
14-04-2007, 21:03
i'm the best friggin influence that she has in her life, but every time i try to babysit she finds a way to see something wrong about how i carry things out (like not letting her watch garbage) and gets upset and calls my mom, who says that i'm never babysitting again.
Neekchi
14-04-2007, 21:04
oh, and to clarify: my sister gets sex offers from other seven year old boys in her class.
Jenrak
14-04-2007, 21:04
i'm the best friggin influence that she has in her life, but every time i try to babysit she finds a way to see something wrong about how i carry things out (like not letting her watch garbage) and gets upset and calls my mom, who says that i'm never babysitting again.

Have you told them what she's doing? The only thing I can think of that will provide immediate response is get rid of her computer.
Myu in the Middle
14-04-2007, 21:05
get your parents to beat her, if they dont you beat her when she screams...:sniper: :mp5: :gundge: :upyours:
Ahh, the standard issue first post.

As for the topic at hand, when in doubt, gather conclusive evidence and drop subtle hints before taking further action. You need your sister to know that you are not an enemy in this, and you should also be certain you're right about the accusations you're making, but you do need her to know that you're concerned about what you've become aware of. If, despite all genuine effort to help her see what she's doing, she keeps it up, then you'll at least have a good case to bring to your parents rather than just rushing in and being accused of deliberately stirring up trouble (I've got siblings too, so I know what that little problem can cause).
German Nightmare
14-04-2007, 21:05
my parents are a wet noodle when it comes to parenting. they don't do crap. i try to parent her, but she screams and i get in trouble and am told that "i'm not her parent"...
Tell your parents that you wouldn't have to do the parenting if they did their job properly.
Ask them to have a talk at supper or whatever. Something that they usually won't run away from. And then talk to them calmly about your concerns.

Be open, tell the truth, be sincere about it. Don't raise your voice even if your sister starts yelling, or screaming, or crying. Or whatever.

Tell your parents you're concerned about your sister.
JuNii
14-04-2007, 21:09
Tell your parents that you wouldn't have to do the parenting if they did their job properly.
Ask them to have a talk at supper or whatever. Something that they usually won't run away from. And then talk to them calmly about your concerns.

Be open, tell the truth, be sincere about it. Don't raise your voice even if your sister starts yelling, or screaming, or crying. Or whatever.

Tell your parents you're concerned about your sister.

Also, have them watch datelines "to catch a predator" series, include any articles about stalking on the internet as well as applicable statistics. If you can get screen caps of her conversations (including offers of sex as well as her replies) add those to your arsenal. then have a nice long conversation with your parents.
Wanderjar
14-04-2007, 21:15
Also, have them watch datelines "to catch a predator" series, include any articles about stalking on the internet as well as applicable statistics. If you can get screen caps of her conversations (including offers of sex as well as her replies) add those to your arsenal. then have a nice long conversation with your parents.

Actually that is a very good Idea. I didn't think of that.
Deus Malum
14-04-2007, 21:16
You can't judge a person by just one post, my first post thread here was horrendous compared to her post, she deserves to stay.

Sociopaths are targeting your sister because she's next generation, the future, ruining the next generation is a big score for them, heck they like many groups use propaganda now or else they wouldn't have gotten your sister the way she was. Your family must protect her or else whats the point of having a family?! Restrict internet access for her or make bad sites forbidden, then send her to a phychiatrist or get other forms of help also keep the bad influences away from her. And she's a brat, discipline the brat and she'll learn, I bet they smacked you when you did the same, or you wouldn't be mature enough to know she's become corrupted. And stop her from listening to bad music. Music affects the way we thing. Really, I know, everyone in the neighborhood is brainwashed by one band or another, they'd get A+ on tests on music while getting lower scores on things like science and math and english, and history, and probably gym too.

Fixed. *nods*
Ashmoria
14-04-2007, 21:18
i'm the best friggin influence that she has in her life, but every time i try to babysit she finds a way to see something wrong about how i carry things out (like not letting her watch garbage) and gets upset and calls my mom, who says that i'm never babysitting again.

how old are you?
Nodinia
14-04-2007, 21:19
Why do your parents let her have her own MySpace account?

He says that she wants one, not that they have let her have one. I presume his concern is that she'll whine until they give in.
Ifreann
14-04-2007, 21:19
Another youth corrupted by the interwebz.
*celebrates*
Hydesland
14-04-2007, 21:20
I was watching rap and hip hop videos and looking at really bad stuff on the tv when I was 5! Although I didn't have girls asking if they wanted to have sex with me at that age, thats fucked up at 7.
JuNii
14-04-2007, 21:23
I was watching rap and hip hop videos and looking at really bad stuff on the tv when I was 5! Although I didn't have girls asking if they wanted to have sex with me at that age, thats fucked up at 7.

Pun intended?
Imperial isa
14-04-2007, 21:23
Another youth corrupted by the interwebz.
*celebrates*

Ifreann strikes again
Wanderjar
14-04-2007, 21:25
I was watching rap and hip hop videos and looking at really bad stuff on the tv when I was 5! Although I didn't have girls asking if they wanted to have sex with me at that age, thats fucked up at 7.

That isn't necessarily something to be proud of.
Wanderjar
14-04-2007, 21:26
Another youth corrupted by the interwebz.
*celebrates*

I'd give you another seal of approval, but I don't think you have enough room in your sig. ;)
JuNii
14-04-2007, 21:28
I'd give you another seal of approval, but I don't think you have enough room in your sig. ;)

awww... go on.... I wanna see where Ifreann will stick it... :D
Ifreann
14-04-2007, 21:28
I'd give you another seal of approval, but I don't think you have enough room in your sig. ;)

Do it anyway, I might add my seals back in at the bottom.

Now, if only I could remember where I saved the text of the other 4..........

I hate the 1000 character limit on sigs :( but I have a plan.
Deus Malum
14-04-2007, 21:29
I'd give you another seal of approval, but I don't think you have enough room in your sig. ;)

Damnit, don't encourage him! :p
Wanderjar
14-04-2007, 21:34
Damnit, don't encourage him! :p

Ah, he amuses me, so I think I shall anyway. Damned be the consquences! :D
Imperial isa
14-04-2007, 21:41
Ah, he amuses me, so I think I shall anyway. Damned be the consquences! :D

keep it his head going to like this
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f209/thisgirlbelongstosaint/South%20Park/9s4eus.jpg
Londim
14-04-2007, 21:45
Holy hell.... I have a little sister that tries to get her way but my oarents don't take that from her. If I were you I'd talk to your parents and sort it out. If they're not bothered then you seriously have to consider the question is your sister safe around them? If the answer is no then contact social services or tell a freind/relative who you trust about it so they can help.
Dagnia
14-04-2007, 21:45
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!

Although your parents find other babysitters, you must have some other leverage to put a stop to this. Perhaps there is some housework that you regularly do or family activity that you participate in that you could begin refusing.

As for your sister, I almost wonder if she is that spoiled, she might already be lost in some way. If you grew up in the self-esteem era and deal with adults who also grew up in that era, you can tell the people who grew up in families that eschewed discipline and got their egos stroked by teachers on a regular basis. None of the rest of us with more traditional families and teachers can stand them, as they carry that belief that they can have whatever they want and do whatever they want, regardless of who they impose upon because they are just so wonderful and special. Your sister most likely has a future of no real friends and constant frustration at a world that will not respond to a temper tantrum or an "I WANT IT!".
Ifreann
14-04-2007, 21:46
Ah, he amuses me, so I think I shall anyway. Damned be the consquences! :D

That's all I need.
Proud (http://************/yxcn2a) winner (http://************/y2fwux) of (http://************/t9ooq) 6 (http://************/wcsrd) Wander (http://************/37bjcx)jarian (http://************/2pq36e) Seals of Approval (http://************/tob6a)
Londim
14-04-2007, 21:47
That's all I need.
Proud (http://************/yxcn2a) winner (http://************/y2fwux) of (http://************/t9ooq) 5 (http://************/wcsrd) Wanderjarian (http://************/37bjcx) Seals of Approval (http://************/tob6a)

*steals*
Neekchi
14-04-2007, 21:47
coughofftopiccough

she's not getting sex offers from old ppl... just from another seven year old boy. i talked to one of her friends and confirmed this. my parents say they they're gunna do something about it, but never do. you ppl have no idea how many times i've tried to talk to them or take things into my own hands... it just never works. if i notify the ss, they'll take her away, and that's never good. she's a spoild brat that needs to be beat, agreed, but i think this crap should be cut off at the source.
Ifreann
14-04-2007, 21:48
*steals*

Go my attack seals! Destroy, destroy with your cuteness!
Russian Reversal
14-04-2007, 21:49
Why doesn't somebody explain to her what sex is?

Your sister is 7. 7 year old girls want to try out flirting. Someone has got to guide her into a correct way to do that. If nothing else, someone she trusts should tell her that if she wants guys to 'actually' like her... she shouldn't be open to suggestions of casual sex.
Johnny B Goode
14-04-2007, 21:49
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!

Uh...what the fuck?
Londim
14-04-2007, 21:53
Go my attack seals! Destroy, destroy with your cuteness!

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs4/300W/i/2004/232/a/e/Evil_hamster.png

Attack Comrade Hamster! Attack!
South Lizasauria
14-04-2007, 21:54
Uh...what the fuck?

Thats what we're all saying....:( Twisted by the dark side the little one has become... (http://darthosaka.ytmnd.com/)
Deus Malum
14-04-2007, 21:59
Go my attack seals! Destroy, destroy with your cuteness!

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs4/300W/i/2004/232/a/e/Evil_hamster.png

Attack Comrade Hamster! Attack!

Don't make me break this fight up. You wouldn't want to see me when I'm angry.
Ifreann
14-04-2007, 22:02
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs4/300W/i/2004/232/a/e/Evil_hamster.png

Attack Comrade Hamster! Attack!

When Hamsters Attack! (http://www.whenhamstersattack.com/index.php)
South Lizasauria
14-04-2007, 22:19
Cmon guys lets get back on topic. If this isn't taken care of this (http://babyinacage.ytmnd.com/) may happen to this guy's sister! :eek:
Londim
14-04-2007, 22:26
Cmon guys lets get back on topic. If this isn't taken care of this (http://babyinacage.ytmnd.com/) may happen to this guy's sister! :eek:

2005 called. They want their YTMND back.
Wanderjar
14-04-2007, 22:26
Cmon guys lets get back on topic. If this isn't taken care of this (http://babyinacage.ytmnd.com/) may happen to this guy's sister! :eek:

:eek:
Wanderjar
14-04-2007, 22:27
2005 called. They want their YTMND back.

2007 called back


"WE DON"T GIVE A ****"


:p
Ifreann
14-04-2007, 22:28
Cmon guys lets get back on topic. If this isn't taken care of this (http://babyinacage.ytmnd.com/) may happen to this guy's sister! :eek:

On topic:
http://www.eluid.org/news/jailbait.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d65/Void3fifteen/jailbait.jpg
Imperial isa
14-04-2007, 22:32
2007 called back


"WE DON"T GIVE A ****"


:p

2007 all so had this to say when 05 called back again
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/rbabygirl94/ei4n6u.gif
Ifreann
14-04-2007, 22:36
:eek: Noes! Come on guys, don't attack each other with seals and hamsters! Fluffle! FLUFFLE!!! Fluffle it out, you're scaring me :(

Fluffle for peace! Woooo
Darknovae
14-04-2007, 22:36
Go my attack seals! Destroy, destroy with your cuteness!

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs4/300W/i/2004/232/a/e/Evil_hamster.png

Attack Comrade Hamster! Attack!
:eek: Noes! Come on guys, don't attack each other with seals and hamsters! Fluffle! FLUFFLE!!! Fluffle it out, you're scaring me :(

Anyway, for the OP: Your sister needs some serious discipline. Does she already have a MySpace, or does she want one? Delete the page if it's the former, put a parental block if it's the latter (it's in the Control Panel, however I've never actually used the block though I have been tempted to). Talk to the girl next door and tell her to stop corrupting your sister, if she's a brat go to the parents, if nobody listens then go to your own parents.

If they don't listen... well, I'm not giving any advice on what to do after this...
Wanderjar
14-04-2007, 22:38
:eek: Noes! Come on guys, don't attack each other with seals and hamsters! Fluffle! FLUFFLE!!! Fluffle it out, you're scaring me :(

Anyway, for the OP: Your sister needs some serious discipline. Does she already have a MySpace, or does she want one? Delete the page if it's the former, put a parental block if it's the latter (it's in the Control Panel, however I've never actually used the block though I have been tempted to). Talk to the girl next door and tell her to stop corrupting your sister, if she's a brat go to the parents, if nobody listens then go to your own parents.

If they don't listen... well, I'm not giving any advice on what to do after this...

Peace is a lie, there is only passion
Through passion I gain strength,
through strength I gain power,
through power I gain victory,
through Victory my chains are broken,
the force shall set me free.
Darknovae
14-04-2007, 22:40
Fluffle for peace! Woooo
That's the spirit! :D
Wanderjar
14-04-2007, 22:41
too much KOTOR

:D I'm a Star Wars Nerd what can I say?
Imperial isa
14-04-2007, 22:43
Peace is a lie, there is only passion
Through passion I gain strength,
through strength I gain power,
through power I gain victory,
through Victory my chains are broken,
the force shall set me free.

too much KOTOR
Luporum
14-04-2007, 22:44
Go my attack seals! Destroy, destroy with your cuteness!

They've been...'routed'. (http://www.advocatesforanimals.org.uk/campaigns/wild/seals/images/seals03.jpg)
Wanderjar
14-04-2007, 22:46
They've been...'routed'. (http://www.advocatesforanimals.org.uk/campaigns/wild/seals/images/seals03.jpg)

The Socialist Commonwealth of Wanderjar hereby declares a state of war between ourselves and you.


;)

(Remember! Those were Wanderjarian born seals!)
Sominium Effectus
14-04-2007, 22:47
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!

Gah...I guess acting twice your age is just as bad as acting half of it.

EDIT: I'm the first person in this thread to notice that Pete Wentz is NOT the lead singer of Fall Out Boy, he's just the frontman, he's really the bass player. Should I feel dirty?
Imperial isa
14-04-2007, 22:47
:D I'm a Star Wars Nerd what can I say?

hey i got both of those game on xbox so :D
Wanderjar
14-04-2007, 22:54
hey i got both of those game on xbox so :D

I've always liked you Isa! :D By the way, how'd that thing with the ADF go?
Luporum
14-04-2007, 22:56
The Socialist Commonwealth of Wanderjar hereby declares a state of war between ourselves and you.

(Remember! Those were Wanderjarian born seals!)

:Run > Program: Laughter
---Commencing Rofl---
---Rofling Complete---
:End > Program
Wanderjar
14-04-2007, 22:59
put it on hold as i have been busy with things and it stay on hold as not this monday caming up but next one mom goes an get her hip done in hospital

Ah. I'm sorry to hear about your mother, what happened to her?

Also, Good luck though once you do get around to it. :D
Imperial isa
14-04-2007, 23:00
I've always liked you Isa! :D By the way, how'd that thing with the ADF go?

put it on hold as i have been busy with things and it stay on hold as not this monday caming up but next one mom goes an get her hip done in hospital
JuNii
14-04-2007, 23:04
The Socialist Commonwealth of Wanderjar hereby declares a state of war between ourselves and you.


;)

(Remember! Those were Wanderjarian born seals!)

ah... so was that declaration adorned with the proper Wanderjarian Seal of Approval? if not, then it's just not Offically Wanderjarian.
Fleckenstein
14-04-2007, 23:04
On topic:*anti-porn snip*

1. Not for me!

2. I was working on stopping the porn, but noooo.
Ifreann
14-04-2007, 23:06
1. Not for me!

2. I was working on stopping the porn, but noooo.

Dude, not porn.
This is the internet, porn is everywhere
Imperial isa
14-04-2007, 23:06
Ah. I'm sorry to hear about your mother, what happened to her?

Also, Good luck though once you do get around to it. :D

hip joint is fucked made that way by alot of things

thanks
Fleckenstein
14-04-2007, 23:09
Dude, not porn.

You misunderstood. They aren't jailbait for me.

Well, I think. *runs to law library*
South Lizasauria
14-04-2007, 23:12
Bump em, :p then use a deneuralizer from MIB. easy scape. ;)
New Manvir
14-04-2007, 23:16
this is why parents need to regularly beat their children :p

seriously though, WTF, someone needs to like..talk to her or something
South Lizasauria
14-04-2007, 23:47
this is why parents need to regularly beat their children :p

seriously though, WTF, someone needs to like..talk to her or something

Like talking to her is going to work. :(
Ifreann
14-04-2007, 23:49
You misunderstood. They aren't jailbait for me.

Well, I think. *runs to law library*

Then for why the anti porn snip?
Quilters and Stitchers
14-04-2007, 23:50
As an aside from the war, some comments on the original post.

1. Your parents aren't going to listen to you because they see you as being jealous of your sister. Take the evidence of what's going on to a responsible adult like a school counselor or a church leader or a relative who will beat some sense into your parents heads.
2. You aren't the parent as much as you would like to help your sister, you are not a responsible adult (and it doesn't sound like your parents are responsible adults either).
3. If your area has an internet task force which works to protect kids, you may want to call them and give them your sisters users name in the forums where she was solicited for sex. Believe me, they will give your parents a wake up call.
4. Dude, get out of there. Can you go live with relatives who are responsible adults?
Ifreann
15-04-2007, 00:04
.....moar!

All the jailbait you'll ever need (www.google.com)
The Metal Horde
15-04-2007, 00:05
On topic: *jb snip*

.....moar!
The Metal Horde
15-04-2007, 00:09
All the jailbait you'll ever need (www.google.com)

But I'm too lazy to be bothered with searching. :(
Itinerate Tree Dweller
15-04-2007, 00:11
you can block myspace by editing her computer's HOST file and redirecting myspace.com to 127.0.0.1, which is your computer's local address... she would never be able to connect to myspace.com

you would also install an internet filter I suggest setting it up so that you can log all her instant messages too.
Siempreciego
15-04-2007, 00:15
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!

Well I think quite a few people here have already given good, nice suggestions on what you can do. If none of it works, use the caveman approach.
Boy asking for sex, punch 'em. If they're alot younger panse them.
Girl next door, inform the parents or theaten her with it.
Your sister, next time she starts screaming, smack her. If she starts screaming again, smack her again.

I think this is the one case where a child should be smacked.
Radical Centrists
15-04-2007, 00:18
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!

Completely forbid her from touching the computer. Period.
Completely forbid her from seeing the neighbor and goth chick.
Completely ignore her screaming, let her lungs bleed.

That is just to start.

Take away her music, her videos, her friends, and any possible contact she could have with ANYONE who wants to have sex with her. The fact that she doesn’t know what sex is, only makes it more likely that someone who DOES will use her.

Let her scream some more. The important thing is that when she screams, bitches, and moans, you have to shun her. Don't acknowledge her existence until she figures out screaming does nothing. Then, when she has no distractions and no bad influences, whip out the operant conditioning.

Find something that makes her uncomfortable - something not painful or abusive, but still highly unenjoyable for her. Use it as a punishment whenever she acts like an insufferable brat, and refuse to acknowledge her when she complains about it. Then, start rewarding good behavior of any kind with small privileges she used to enjoy. Work your way up bit by bit, letting her earn back her life minus the truly dangerous things - replace them with something productive, but fun. Eventually she'll start getting the picture... For God's sake, a pigeon can be made to get the picture!

Or, you know, don't.

By the time she is 14, she is probably going to get knocked up by someone twice her age. She'll be the worst mother conceivable, so an abortion will practically be compulsory. She'll ultimately fail in school, be too much of a spoiled, self-consuming brat to ever have any productive relationships, and never make it in the world as anything more then a whore. Maybe a lucky, married whore, but a whore nonetheless. Oh, and yeah, drugs are right around the corner. At this rate, she probably won't make it into the double digits before she starts using... if she isn't already. Heroin is a nice distraction when mommy and daddy don't play along.

Tell that to your useless parents and let them suck on it.
Kryozerkia
15-04-2007, 00:20
You could always consider getting a nice water gun and spraying her when she screams.

If she is going to act like an animal, treat her like one.

I use a spritzer bottle on my cat and she hates it. I imagine being sprayed with cold water isn't fun.

And if your sister whines to your parents, tell your parents it's being done because they aren't parenting and you're tired of this behaviour.
Karnoslavia
15-04-2007, 00:23
Just don't call 911 like that lady who couldn't control her 12 year old.
South Lizasauria
15-04-2007, 00:24
He/she should do all of the above suggestions for maximum effect. :D :gundge:
South Lizasauria
15-04-2007, 01:54
And on top of that use electro chock therapy. Or just plain shock therapy. :D And lets not forget the homer (http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/JDAVIDSON/homer%20bart.jpg) treatment. "WHY YOU LITTLE!"
Wanderjar
15-04-2007, 01:59
And on top of that use electro chock therapy. Or just plain shock therapy. :D And lets not forget the homer (http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/JDAVIDSON/homer%20bart.jpg) treatment. "WHY YOU LITTLE!"

Congratulations! You are now the proud winner of a Wanderjarian Seal of Approval!


*Hands over adorable squalking baby seal*


http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9153/sealofapprovalpq1.png
South Lizasauria
15-04-2007, 02:02
Congratulations! You are now the proud winner of a Wanderjarian Seal of Approval!


*Hands over adorable squalking baby seal*


http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9153/sealofapprovalpq1.png

http://www.geocities.com/pearly1900/homer/homer-woohoo.gif

WOOHOO! :D
Wanderjar
15-04-2007, 02:04
:D




....Man we have terribly hijacked this thread.
Luporum
15-04-2007, 02:06
Congratulations! You are now the proud winner of a Wanderjarian Seal of Approval!


*Hands over adorable squalking baby seal*




My work (http://www.harpseals.org/images/seallooksatkillerwithbordersmall.jpg) is never done.
South Lizasauria
15-04-2007, 02:06
:D Man we have terribly hijacked this thread.

LULZ :D
JuNii
15-04-2007, 02:07
1. Not for me!

2. I was working on stopping the porn, but noooo.

you gotta work harder and longer at it. keep a stiff upper lip, take the blows and keep pushing. you gotta give it your all to make that final thrust to obtain the climax of your goals. you can't get soft in the middle of your work, that's how people end up pulling out before going all the way.

and always beware of being shafted.
German Nightmare
15-04-2007, 02:09
:D Man we have terribly hijacked this thread.
Woohoo?
Wanderjar
15-04-2007, 02:11
Woohoo?

Actually the ":D" and my statement shouldn't be on the same line. I didn't separate them, and they are supposed to be for different....conversations. I'll go edit it now to represent what I was actually intending.
South Lizasauria
15-04-2007, 02:12
Returned the hamster has (http://giantenemyhamster.ytmnd.com/) :eek:
Wanderjar
15-04-2007, 02:13
Returned the hamster has (http://giantenemyhamster.ytmnd.com/) :eek:

lol
South Lizasauria
15-04-2007, 02:29
Any way I think the ultimate solution that can't fail is to hire Homer Simpson or the a Filipino Catholic to babysit. Then EVERYTHING will work out. :p
Lapse
15-04-2007, 02:58
Neekchi: First how old are you? I am guessing 15 or so? (forgive me if I am wrong). Nobody is going to take you seriously at 15 (We have all been there and vouch for it). So:
1. Perhaps talk to her school about how guys are asking her for sex (probably won't work unless you are over 18 or so)
2. Put on a parental control filter: Just don't tell your parents(or her) the password. Block sites like myspace and chat rooms. If you Google you would be able to find one.
3. Kid next door... don't think there is much you can do there that won't piss off her parents which would mean you would have both her parents and your parents not helping you.
4. Have you got any other relatives (especially grandmother/grandfather or uncles or aunts) that you could possibly talk to about it: If you tell them the problem then they may talk to your parents about it. Your parents are more likely to take on board what anyone says over their son (sorry, sad fact of life)
5. If all else fails try the water gun idea: Classic conditioning. (or you can go and get one of those nanny shows)
South Lizasauria
15-04-2007, 03:05
Neekchi: First how old are you? I am guessing 15 or so? (forgive me if I am wrong). Nobody is going to take you seriously at 15 (We have all been there and vouch for it). So:
1. Perhaps talk to her school about how guys are asking her for sex (probably won't work unless you are over 18 or so)
2. Put on a parental control filter: Just don't tell your parents(or her) the password. Block sites like myspace and chat rooms. If you Google you would be able to find one.
3. Kid next door... don't think there is much you can do there that won't piss off her parents which would mean you would have both her parents and your parents not helping you.
4. Have you got any other relatives (especially grandmother/grandfather or uncles or aunts) that you could possibly talk to about it: If you tell them the problem then they may talk to your parents about it. Your parents are more likely to take on board what anyone says over their son (sorry, sad fact of life)
5. If all else fails try the water gun idea: Classic conditioning. (or you can go and get one of those nanny shows)

If the water gun fails....


Do electroshock therapy, shock therapy and the homer treatment. :p

If that fails umm....stick her in a box until she stops screaming. ;)
Slaughterhouse five
15-04-2007, 03:07
sounds like your sister is a shining example of what a society with role models such as paris hilton, britney spears, and the rest produce.
South Lizasauria
15-04-2007, 03:07
sounds like your sister is a shining example of what a society with role models such as paris hilton, britney spears, and the rest produce.

It is clear on what must be done...... we must all nuke hollywood and replace our role models with.... *thinks for a minute* Mickey mouse...... *nods*

:mp5: :mp5: :sniper: :sniper: :gundge: :gundge: TO ARMS COMRADES! BE SWIFT AND SHOW NO MERCY!
Lore Manor
15-04-2007, 03:46
coughofftopiccough

she's not getting sex offers from old ppl... just from another seven year old boy. i talked to one of her friends and confirmed this. my parents say they they're gunna do something about it, but never do. you ppl have no idea how many times i've tried to talk to them or take things into my own hands... it just never works. if i notify the ss, they'll take her away, and that's never good. she's a spoild brat that needs to be beat, agreed, but i think this crap should be cut off at the source.


Well I wouldn't say it's *just* from other 7 year olds, I've heard of 7 year olds having sex and participatin in rapes and such. It could be a couple of kids just trying to act older than they are- or... it could be a couple of kids who want to take playing doctor a little further.

Social Services don't just take kids away. Even when there's actual abuses going on, it isn't usually that easy for them to decide to take the kids. I would go to a counsler and talk to them for advise. It sounds like your parents love you two, they just don't know how to be parents at times... which, believe it or not- most social services people would rather deal with parents like that. They can offer tips, especially if they are even called- if your parents say they're trying, and what they've tried... they'll just read them stats and things they can do that won't include hitting.

Chances are, they wouldn't even be called, and it could just be a counsler getting a school social worker to step in... which isn't automatically child protective services.

Like you said, you've tried to talk to them, but most parents don't take their kids advice really seriously, especially if they're still young. You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders, and it has got to be stressful for you. Just do what you can, and know ultimately, she isn't your kid... and if your parents really won't listen to you- it isn't your fault. I'm sorry you're going through that though. You really do seem like a decent person from your post.
Deus Malum
15-04-2007, 07:00
It is clear on what must be done...... we must all nuke hollywood and replace our role models with.... *thinks for a minute* Mickey mouse...... *nods*

Wait a minute, wasn't Britney Spears a Mouseketeer? Doesn't this mean it's all, in fact, Mickey's fault?
Rakashu
15-04-2007, 07:06
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!

This is why I hate the fact that these retards that create the laws in the U.S made it illegal to hit your children. Sure, I can understand beating your child to a pulp and almost killing it being illegal, but slapping it around shouldn't exactly be a problem. I'm 100% sure that if you're parents took her out back and showed her what was really up with a swift kick to the gut and a few quick jabs, she would start to respect.

See, kids these days don't respect their parents. I respect my parents 100%, and do what they ask me to do, and if I didn't back when I was your sister's age you can believe I would have gotten the shit beat out of me, and I knew that. I stayed in line my entire life, and never got once in trouble, because I knew my dad would have no problem laying the law down. Seriously, taking it slow and casual and trying to talk to people never works because they can just block that shit out and walk away. But you can't block out the pain when you're getting your ass beat.

Next time she starts screaming, just elbow her in the face and brake her nose. Say it was an 'accident'.
Darknovae
15-04-2007, 08:01
Neekchi: First how old are you? I am guessing 15 or so? (forgive me if I am wrong). Nobody is going to take you seriously at 15 (We have all been there and vouch for it). So:
1. Perhaps talk to her school about how guys are asking her for sex (probably won't work unless you are over 18 or so)
2. Put on a parental control filter: Just don't tell your parents(or her) the password. Block sites like myspace and chat rooms. If you Google you would be able to find one.
3. Kid next door... don't think there is much you can do there that won't piss off her parents which would mean you would have both her parents and your parents not helping you.
4. Have you got any other relatives (especially grandmother/grandfather or uncles or aunts) that you could possibly talk to about it: If you tell them the problem then they may talk to your parents about it. Your parents are more likely to take on board what anyone says over their son (sorry, sad fact of life)
5. If all else fails try the water gun idea: Classic conditioning. (or you can go and get one of those nanny shows)
It sucks that people don't listen to those under the age of 18. We do have good ideas sometimes, you know. :(
Warshrike
15-04-2007, 10:04
It sucks that people don't listen to those under the age of 18. We do have good ideas sometimes, you know. :(

I doubt that we do.

And guys... You think Jailbait is scary in that sense, well... This is the kind of guy... who hunts it www.vitriol.com/images/jailbait.gif
Orlzenheimerness
15-04-2007, 13:46
It sucks that people don't listen to those under the age of 18. We do have good ideas sometimes, you know.:(

Yes, I know we do... So good that they cannot begin to comprehend!
Naturality
15-04-2007, 13:52
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!

ok, as for the sex part.. dude I dunno. As for the music part etc.. kids will dig stuff for the voice, music, beat behind it .. may even know the words, but they won't understand what the hell them words mean until they are older. All kids do this that aren't restricted to kiddie songs... barney or whatever. Any parent that says otherwise is delusional. You can repeat a word.. a song to your hearts delight and not understand whats it's really meaning. A 7 year old is just digging the tunes, and what his/her peers dig. Sex at 7? my god no.
Nobel Hobos
15-04-2007, 14:20
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!

Marry the twelve-year-old neighbour. When your new wife starts to bulge around the midriff, your little sister will realize it ain't all fun-and-games.

No prob. Glad to help. :D
Darknovae
15-04-2007, 14:35
I doubt that we do.

And guys... You think Jailbait is scary in that sense, well... This is the kind of guy... who hunts it www.vitriol.com/images/jailbait.gif

We do... the smart ones among us, anyway. I hate to brag, but I am very highly intelligent for a 15 year old.
Darknovae
15-04-2007, 14:36
Marry the twelve-year-old neighbour. When your new wife starts to bulge around the midriff, your little sister will realize it ain't all fun-and-games.

No prob. Glad to help. :D

I'm not sure that marrying a 12 year old is legal in any state in the US (except perhaps Kansas or Utah).

I do, however, reccomend that the OPer takes his sister to a counselour or something. Would help. :)
Nobel Hobos
15-04-2007, 14:55
We do... the smart ones among us, anyway. I hate to brag, but I am very highly intelligent for a 15 year old.

Please don't brag. You do it like a twelve-year old.
"Extremely intelligent" would be more correct, also.
Lapse
15-04-2007, 14:55
We do... the smart ones among us, anyway. I hate to brag, but I am very highly intelligent for a 15 year old.

don't worry, you'll reach college or uni or whatever the local variation is and kill all your brain cells with alcohol...

No need to stress...
Kryozerkia
15-04-2007, 15:01
It sucks that people don't listen to those under the age of 18. We do have good ideas sometimes, you know. :(

Even being 19 years old doesn't help.

I once told a brat who was below Bar Mitzvah age not to hit me, then promptly informed his father of the child's misbehaviour and the father told me NOT to discipline his kid. I was frustrated; this asshat basically let this kid get away with hitting someone else. The difference is that I had more martial arts training and could have done damage but I didn't.

Some parents are just plain stupid and they don't care what your idea is because they think they're right even when they're plain wrong.

It does suck when you're an adult and no one listens to you.
Arinola
15-04-2007, 15:04
don't worry, you'll reach college or uni or whatever the local variation is and kill all your brain cells with alcohol...

No need to stress...

I'm looking forward to those days.
Nobel Hobos
15-04-2007, 15:06
don't worry, you'll reach college or uni or whatever the local variation is and kill all your brain cells with alcohol...

No need to stress...

You were an arts student then?
Clearly not medicine, nor science.
You didn't find study stressful ... ?
Arts.

*chalks one up*
Ifreann
15-04-2007, 15:07
You were an arts student then?
Clearly not medicine, nor science.
You didn't find study stressful ... ?
Arts.

*chalks one up*

Arts student? Study?
*rofls*
Arinola
15-04-2007, 15:10
Arts student? Study?
*rofls*

Lolz.
Multiland
15-04-2007, 15:13
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!

Can you buy new parents? Cus no offence, but it sounds like yours are crap at bringing up kids - you don't just give in cus a kid screams, you punish her for screaming at you!
Nobel Hobos
15-04-2007, 15:20
*snip, respectfully*
It does suck when you're an adult and no one listens to you.

And it sucks when you're a zealot, but no-one takes you seriously.
It sucks when you're a natural athlete, but you have to pass college.
It sucks when you're always right, but you have a speech impediment.
It sucks to be hot, in a world where it's cool to be cool.

Our planet earth sucks. It's called "gravity."

If I ever rub one of you up the wrong way, here's the character-suicide post to quote: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12544264#post12544264
Lapse
15-04-2007, 15:54
You were an arts student then?
Clearly not medicine, nor science.
You didn't find study stressful ... ?
Arts.

*chalks one up*

Well, now you mention it, I am actually doing podiatry (foot doctor!)

although I did engineering last year to get the partying out of my system...
Deus Malum
15-04-2007, 16:13
Well, now you mention it, I am actually doing podiatry (foot doctor!)

although I did engineering last year to get the partying out of my system...

Yeah, there's a surprising amount of partying to be had from engineering. I miss those days. I'm a Physics major now, and my hair has started falling out. Or being ripped out, possibly, in moments of agonizing over Stat. Thermo.
The Gay Street Militia
15-04-2007, 21:26
Okay... your parents, sorry to say, sound like idiot-slackers, and it sounds like they're letting your sister become an idiot-slacker. I balk as saying they're "raising her," because they aren't cultivating virtue in her, it's more like they're letting weeds grow out of control. They ought to be grouding her, blocking her internet access, disciplining her, for god's sake. Seems like kids started going completely out of control when parents stopped spanking them, they lost any semblance of control and their children started running wild. Not 'abuse,' but reasonable discipline, and as soon as that got shoved 'out of fashion' or into a taboo, parents became progressively less 'parenting.'

What's worse is that you genuinely seem to care, and your attempts to pick up the slack and parent in their stead are actually getting you dumped on. And as much as I'd like to have something warm 'n fuzzy to suggest-- some advice for how to get the rest of your family to smarten the hell up-- I don't. Because you don't have any power over your parents, and they won't acknowledge your efforts to correct your sister. She's on a fast-track to self-destruct, and your folks are too lazy and irresponsible to do anything about it.

So for your own sake, I suggest you bide your time until you have the means to leave, and then cut them loose. Tell your parents on your way out the door that they suck as caregivers, and maybe for good measure call social services and let them know what's going on. Your sister won't necessarily do any better in foster care or wherever, but it doesn't sound like she could do much worse. The alternative is to stay, knocking yourself out trying to straighten your parents out, and watch your sister go down the crapper anyway. Doing that will more than likely just leave you bitter and frustrated. Set yourself free. Don't let incurable dyfunction drag you down too; get out, and get out soon.
East Lithuania
15-04-2007, 21:46
I'm the first person in this thread to notice that Pete Wentz is NOT the lead singer of Fall Out Boy, he's just the frontman, he's really the bass player. Should I feel dirty?

yes
South Lizasauria
06-05-2007, 21:50
As punishment everyone who is letting and/or making this predicament happen should all be thrown into a room with the hentie squid. :cool:
New Stalinberg
06-05-2007, 21:52
That's some fine parenting, reminds me of the rich cry-baby assholes that my high school consists of.
The Wu-Tang Clanz
06-05-2007, 21:54
Two words: Super Nanny.

Seriously, your sister is wayyyyy too young for that shit.
The Lone Alliance
06-05-2007, 22:15
Your parents are pathetic, sorry but it's true.
Call social services, if they won't listen to you perhaps they'll listen to the LAW!
Ifreann
06-05-2007, 22:16
Why are people posting on topic in this zombie thread? Let it slink peacefully back into the grave.
South Lizasauria
06-05-2007, 23:43
Why are people posting on topic in this zombie thread? Let it slink peacefully back into the grave.

Why? People still want to post on it.
Mirkana
06-05-2007, 23:48
Call social services or trustworthy relatives. Block myspace. Do whatever it takes.
The Infinite Dunes
07-05-2007, 00:46
So she listens to Fall Out Boy, wants a myspace, teases the boys and is seven. Perhaps a little young, but I don't see much wrong with what she's up to. Except the screaming to get what she wants. Now, although this may be important for babies to communicate that they're hungry or something, your sister is not a baby and has working vocabulary.

Tips for dealing with silly kids like this: Copy their behaviour until they stop; do nothing except stare at a point just behind their eyes until they stop; or threaten punishments and carry out those punishments if they do not stop. My favourite has to be selling the TV or computer (if it's only for recreation). I know someone whose kid challenged that they wouldn't sell the TV, so to prove she meant business the mum said she'd take a hammer to the TV. Kid still didn't believe, so she took a hammer to TV (she said it was very stress relieving after all the screaming the kid had done). She then calmly explained why the kid's actions were responsible for the outcome and then put the hammer back in the toolbox.

edit:Why are people posting on topic in this zombie thread? Let it slink peacefully back into the grave.Because I have a story about smashing TVs that I wanted to share :)
Swilatia
07-05-2007, 00:53
http://diy.despair.com/output/poster72088812.jpg
Darknovae
07-05-2007, 01:01
http://diy.despair.com/output/poster72088812.jpg

How did you get yours to work!? :mad:
Sominium Effectus
07-05-2007, 01:07
This thread is back? LOL I remember this one from the last time I was active on this forum...a month ago.
Ifreann
07-05-2007, 01:14
Why? People still want to post on it.

Because zombie threads want to eat your brains.

And this thread is full of people saying the same thing. I doubt anyone will be able to add anything new.
New Karat
07-05-2007, 01:24
Your parents have to do somthing, have her myspace shutdown, teach her a lession on respecting there authority.
South Lizasauria
07-05-2007, 02:11
Because zombie threads want to eat your brains.

And this thread is full of people saying the same thing. I doubt anyone will be able to add anything new.

Cmon, I'm adding something new right now. I think on top of that there should be knife/plate torture, wet balloon torture and I also think hot butter should be smeared in her face to teach her a lesson. :cool:
Swilatia
07-05-2007, 02:12
How did you get yours to work!? :mad:

right clicked the picture, selected "view image", then used the image URL which appeared in the adress bar after i went to the image. I don't know if this is possible in your prowser, I use firefox.
Roasty
07-05-2007, 02:17
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!


You could always just take her to the pound and put her down?
South Lizasauria
07-05-2007, 02:20
You could always just take her to the pound and put her down?

[mr. burns] excellent [mr. burns/]
Sel Appa
07-05-2007, 02:35
This is where corporal punishment might be justified.
Raistlins Apprentice
07-05-2007, 02:38
My little sister is seven years old, listens to fall out boy, watches hiphop and rap music videos, looks up really bad stuff on the internet, has a crush on pete wentz (i think that's his last name) - the 28 year old lead singer of fall out boy, wants a myspace account and has boys asking her if she wants to have sex - AND SHE SAYS MABEY! of course, her idea of sex is two ppl kissing naked, but still! my parents try to put up with her nonsense, but she has a tendancy to have it her way or the highway. she will SCREAM if she doesn't get her way, sometimes hours on end. she gets most of this crap from the twelve year old neighbor next door. Please give me your imput and if possible some ways to make it stop!

I know this is an "old" issue (although I doubt it's stopped by now), but since I'm currently training to be a psychotherapist (and my intended emphasis is actually going to be in rape), I figured it would be worthwhile to give my opinion. Please note that I said that I'm training to be a psychotherapist - this means that I'm not actually one yet, so you should trust a liscensed one more than me!

The first, and most important, thing for you to realize is that you are both right and wrong. Is there a problem? Obviously! However, not all of the things you have listed are actually problems nor anything that should be handled. Since I can tell that you are pretty mature, I'm sure you'll be fine with me starting with what I think you've got wrong (and why, plus occassional tips of how to handle it anyway).
Where you're probably wrong:
1. She listens to Fall Out Boy. Okay, so, she has a specific taste in music. You may not agree with her taste, nor think that it's appropriate for her age, but it's music. She probably does not understand any lyrics that are "bad" in it, so it's not a problem. Taking away her music will only get her pissed off at whoever takes it. If it really concerns you, try to figure out why she likes the music (having a friendly conversation, as if you want her advice on music, is a good way of doing it. Ask her why she likes it!), and then find new music that doesn't concern you that has those same qualities. Play it for her and see if she likes it. Because it's new, she will probably start listening to it instead, and her music selection will be cycled out until it consists of music that you are comfortable with. And your parents won't hate you for this, because you are acting like a sibling instead of overtly parenting (although it's a good way of parenting too).
2. Has a crush on Pete Wentz. Lots of people that age have "crushes." Heck, I haven't seen any statistics, but from personal experience, I'd assert that most do. This seems to be true about most ages too. Yes, he's a lot older, but it's a celebrity crush, and at seven years old, her "crush" is probably not sexual in any way shape or form. If she gets an actual fixation on the guy rather than a "crush," it's nothing to be concerned about. If she gets a fixation (and fixations are obvious - the people who go out and stalk and/or kill their "celebrity crushes" have fixations, so if it gets that serious and weird...) then you've got reason to worry. But hey, you'd have good evidence for your parents, any counselors, and social services that they need to step in.
3. She wants a mySpace account. So? Those accounts are not inherently bad. Many people use it as a way to be connected with their friends, and to make new ones. She probably wants to do the same thing. Of course, since she's seven (and doesn't seem particularly mature), her use of the account should be supervised.
Hard to tell:
1. Looks up "really bad stuff" on the internet. That's too vague for me to be able to tell you if it's okay for her to be doing or not. If she's looking up porn, obviously that's bad. If she's looking up the latest trends in miniskirts, it's not (although it might make you squeamish since she's seven).
2. The sex thing. She's exploring the concept of sex since she doesn't know what it is but she's heard about it. Same with most, if not all, the guys who have been asking her (since you said they were the same age - I said most because technically I don't *know*). If someone sat down with her and explained what sex was in an informative, complete, and nonjudgemental manner, her reaction will probably be "ew!" because she probably has not started puberty yet (most, but not all, seven year olds haven't). Even if she has started puberty, I doubt she's gotten far enough that the concept of sex would appeal to her. Upon this understanding, she is much more likely to straight out say "No! Ew!" to the question. If not, she may be trying out flirting as has been suggested. Advise her to not say anything ambiguous to anyone older than her because they will probably take her seriously (yes, explain why to her). Even if she does not stop saying "maybe" to her peers, she will undoubtedly say "no" if she is asked by anyone older. Important note on this one: you will need your parents' consent on this one. If they don't give it, don't force the issue (so try to get your reasoning right the first time!). It's not your place, as frustrating as it might seem.
Probably right:
1. The screaming thing. Not cool at all. By giving in, your parents are teaching her that she can get her way, so long as she screams enough. It is imperative that she not get taught this, so that they can enforce the important rules. It may be impossible to get them to cooperate in not giving in, but I can provide strategies for you (and if you're lucky, she may start applying them to you guy's parents on her own). If your parents are open to the idea, then give them the strategy as well! They may be lazy, but it's more likely that they don't know what to do with her.
a) Before you babysit her, sit down with her and your parents and come up with a comprehensive list of what are okay activities for her to engage in and what are not. Make sure that it is a compromise between what all four of you think. Try to be thorough about what it includes.
b) Whenever you are babysitting her, enforce these rules. No, don't hit her if she disobeys (your parents will be pissed, and it's not your place to hit her - there are other methods of punishment that are acceptible for sibling babysitters). I'm sure you already know how to make it clear that she cannot do something. If she starts screaming, ignore her, no matter how long and loud she screams. NEVER give in. She'll figure out that it does not work. If she calls your parents, you can say that it's part of the agreed list of activities she cannot engage in. You win.
c) While you are babysitting her, whenever you guys run into something that you think is objectionable, she thinks is okay, and is not on any of the lists (aka, something your family did not think about), say that you do not think she should do it, but that if she calmly (without screaming) gives you good reasons why she thinks it's okay, you'll reconsider. Tell her that if she starts screaming, you'll consider her position too weak to be correct, but that if she doesn't, that she may have a good enough one to change your mind (and yes, cut off the dialogue if she starts screaming - but not if her eyes water and she cries without screaming. If she's crying like that, she might just be frustrated. Give her time to make her position.) Tell her what your reasons are for thinking it's not okay. Let her tell you her reasons without interrupting them. When she's done, tell her which you think were good reasons and why, and which ones you think were bad ones and why. Then tell her that she can calmly defend whichever "bad" ones that she thinks you misjudged. Allow dialogue to continue until all reasons are decisively good or bad. Then fairly reassess your decision (which means, yes, you may need to allow her to do these activities sometimes. After all, she may be seven, but seven-year-olds are not inherently stupid, so they can be right sometimes). If enough reasons were deemed bad, she may choose to not engage in the activity herself (because, as I said, seven-year-olds are not inherently stupid. Your arguments, and guidance of her own reasoning, may make her see that it is the wrong decision). The important thing here for her to learn is that screaming does not work (at least on you), and that there is another way of getting what she wants without screaming, and that it does not piss you off. Given a choice between getting one good things with the possibility of a second versus just the possibility, she'll take the former. Yes, this will not work automatically. She will probably scream a few times. Just keep doing it until it works. Her screaming programming needs to be unconditioned, and the new negotiating programming conditioned.
Revantusk
07-05-2007, 07:09
I'm not sure that marrying a 12 year old is legal in any state in the US (except perhaps Kansas or Utah).

I do, however, reccomend that the OPer takes his sister to a counselour or something. Would help. :)

Yeah, I know I'm continuing the resurrection of a zombie thread, but as a (mostly) proud Kansan, I just couldn't let this slide. What point are you trying to make with this incorrect assumption? The absolute minimum age of legal marriage in Kansas is 15 with a judge's ruling that marriage is in that person's best interests, or 16 with parental permission. So again, what are you trying to say about Kansas?
IL Ruffino
07-05-2007, 07:17
Let her have sex. It's her life, let her fuck it up. Literally. ;)