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I'd like to find out the proportion of conservatives to liberals here so posters may use that information.

your survey ain't much of a survey. define your terms at least.

I'd like to find out the proportion of conservatives to liberals here so posters may use that information.

Oy vey.

Well, it's an improvement compared to your previous "please tell me you're my enemy" thread.

i guess i would call myself left wing

your survey ain't much of a survey. define your terms at least.

Just state which side of the political spectrum you are. If in doubt I'll try to fish up some sort of test for people to take to find out what side of the spectrum they're on.

I think of myself as a centre-right moderate. I don't think of myself as 'right-wing' per se, although many might think I am, since I'm not afraid to vote for a right-wing party as an alternative to a 'centrist' party.

I may even vote for the lefty party next time around. We'll just have to see what happens when the name-calling starts.

I'd like to find out the proportion of conservatives to liberals here so posters may use that information.

Alright, here's the problem: There are many levels to politics.

A person could be a social liberal, but an economic conservative, and a libertarian. A person could be a social conservative, but economic liberal, as well as an autoritarian.

And any mix in various degrees.

Honestly, politics is not as black and white as some Americans would like to believe.

If in doubt I'll try to fish up some sort of test for people to take to find out what side of the spectrum they're on.

well what you want to do then is make version 4.0 of the nsg political compass

No matter what wing you're on, you'll fall off when the bird flaps. Just hang onto the tail feathers and let the good times roll.

I think of myself as a centre-right moderate. I don't think of myself as 'right-wing' per se, although many might think I am, since I'm not afraid to vote for a right-wing party as an alternative to a 'centrist' party.

I may even vote for the lefty party next time around. We'll just have to see what happens when the name-calling starts.

I honestly don't know how you could label yourself right wing in any way.

change of heart. Well not really, but being nicer

well what you want to do then is make version 4.0 of the nsg political compass

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=political+compass&btnG=Google+Search

Just pick the one you see as accurate or the one that works best.

well what you want to do then is make version 4.0 of the nsg political compass

I can see it now:

Do you support gay marriage?

Yes: Moral Conservative
No: Immoral Liberal

Do you support high taxes to pay for government funding?

Yes: Honest Conservative
No: Thieving liberal

Do you like President Bush?

Yes: Good Conservative
No: Evil Liberal

Etc. and so forth.

I honestly don't know how you could label yourself right wing in any way.

That's a good point. Economically to some degree. I'm sort of a old school economic conservative, complete with protectionist policies. It works well with socialism at times.

I'm in no way a social conservative. Ick.

Oy vey.

Finally someone else who tends to use Yiddish expressions! All my friends in Britain think I'm crazy... Hello there! :)

I'd like to find out the proportion of conservatives to liberals here so posters may use that information.

I am a raging liberal. With special emphasis on raging...

I'm all conservative baby I mean just look at the name.

I am a raging liberal. With special emphasis on raging...

you're on the rag?

What does it matter which wing someone is? It's pointless since people may lie in a poll and will otherwise jerk you around when it becomes obvious you're fishing for dirt so you know who to piss off.

I prefer to keep people like that guessing.

I can see it now:

Do you support gay marriage?

Yes: Moral Conservative
No: Immoral Liberal

Do you support high taxes to pay for government funding?

Yes: Honest Conservative
No: Thieving liberal

Do you like President Bush?

Yes: Good Conservative
No: Evil Liberal

Etc. and so forth.

actually, i was thinking more like this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=58724&d=1099976923), this (http://www.iol.ie/~roto/nspolc2.jpg), and the other one i can't seem to find just now.

What does it matter which wing someone is? It's pointless since people may lie in a poll and will otherwise jerk you around when it becomes obvious you're fishing for dirt so you know who to piss off.

I prefer to keep people like that guessing.

I think anyone who's been around long enough just adds an extra checkmark to the 'left' column when they see you're around. ;)

I'm all conservative baby I mean just look at the name.

I agree with you. That was a dead giveaway. I think, from the opposite perspective, mine may be as well. ;)

I think anyone who's been around long enough just adds an extra checkmark to the 'left' column when they see you're around. ;)
I don't even need to advertise that in my signature.

That's a good point. Economically to some degree. I'm sort of a old school economic conservative, complete with protectionist policies. It works well with socialism at times.

I'm in no way a social conservative. Ick.

So you're a Canadian conservative.

That I understand. Because even the Canuk Conservatives like a little socialism with their beef.

Finally someone else who tends to use Yiddish expressions! All my friends in Britain think I'm crazy... Hello there! :)

That's Yiddish? I'm Brazilian (and gentile), I actually got that (in my English conversations only) from Seinfeld... :p

So you're a Canadian conservative.

That I understand. Because even the Canuk Conservatives like a little socialism with their beef.

I would have liked to have seen a Jean Charest PC party back in the day before he left for Quebec politics. I also would have like to have seen a Belinda Stronach led Conservative party, but even with her at the helm, it would still be the Reform party with a flashy dressing leader.

I am very left of standard American politics.

I'm an anarcho-capitalist, so I'm kind of a square peg going into a round hole. However, since my focus is upon subsidiary institutions such as the family, church, and community taking over from the government, as well as an emphasis on laissez-faire capitalism, I suppose I'll bill myself as right-wing.

If I had to pick a side available to Americans, Liberal. I am a Democratic Socialist though.

you're on the rag?

He would be 'ragging' then.

I would have liked to have seen a Jean Charest PC party back in the day before he left for Quebec politics. I also would have like to have seen a Belinda Stronach led Conservative party, but even with her at the helm, it would still be the Reform party with a flashy dressing leader.

I am very left of standard American politics.

Ugh Stronach...'hey, I'm a gorgeous millionaire! Elect me, elect me!'. Bleh.

See now, I'd be worried if you were claiming to support the Reform, or the Alliance or whatever the frick it's called. Harper's little minions.

Neither. If you want an accurate depiction of the NSG political climate, you need to add more variables.

Just remember, Centrists have more people to blame. :D

Ugh Stronach...'hey, I'm a gorgeous millionaire! Elect me, elect me!'. Bleh.

See now, I'd be worried if you were claiming to support the Reform, or the Alliance or whatever the frick it's called. Harper's little minions.

I lost any respect I had for Stronach when she flipped after running for the leadership of the party. But she comes from a political family, and has the business background to boot. She would have been a progressive influence in an otherwise hick-heavy party.

But yeah, there was too much celeb in her game. And in other places.

I've never voted Reform/Alliance. But I saw the necessity of 'uniting the right', since although I'm more ideologically liberal than conservative, I don't think it's particularly healthy having the same party running the country continuously. It's bad for our complexion.

Thus, my urgent desire for democratic reform. See?

Thus, my urgent desire for democratic reform. See?

Oh I have the same urgent desire. I just thing the best way of doing it would be to smash the state first :D

As you can see in my sig, I am very, very anti-authoritarian and also communist... so I'd say I'm left-wing.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=political+compass&btnG=Google+Search

Just pick the one you see as accurate or the one that works best.

LOL You totally missed FS's point. This thread is an attempt to do this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494088), for the fourth time. IMHO, you're making a real hash of it. Try looking at the ones done before. Also have a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

LOL You totally missed FS's point. This thread is an attempt to do this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494088)

yay, you found the one i missed

I think it's pretty clear that many of my views are to the right of many others here.
But "Right" can be a shifting sand. I would consider myself a conservative in the classic mould - small government, self reliance.

You left "skew" off of the poll :(

I didn't vote in the poll because I'm not sure whether I'm leftist or centrist. I'm socially liberal to such an extent that even most liberals would think I'm a nut, but on economic issues, I'm a pragmatist. I believe capitalism is better than socialism from an ethical standpoint (I disagree with forced wealth distribution) but at the same time, I can't delude myself into believing that charity alone will keep the poor on their feet. And so I tolerate socialism with the belief that it's a necessary evil.

I'd like to find out the proportion of conservatives to liberals here so posters may use that information.

I believe the moderators frown on this sort of poll, where the information gathered about your identity is used to bash people.

So I'll report it.

Truth be told, I am a moderate despite what many people here on NSG might believe.

I'd like to find out the proportion of conservatives to liberals here so posters may use that information.

Right wingers aren't conservatives except when one uses the inadequate political spectrum.
Why do you think most people use the Political Compass nowadays?

I'm a conservative communist. I am therefore left-wing despite being conservative.

I'm a communist-anarchist. That means I'm left-wing in a big way.

Oh I have the same urgent desire. I just thing the best way of doing it would be to smash the state first :D

You rebel you.

I tend to follow the tired old Canadian convention of saying 'please, oh please, can we have a real democracy now?'. Rebellion is against the rules you know.

Tsk, tsk young lady.

*shakes finger*