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India has successfully tested a long range missile capable of travelling 3000km or 1900 miles, apparently to counter the military strength of China and Pakistan

i heard on the news that this could easily reach anywhere in the middle East or China.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/12/AR2007041200525.html

I feel safer already. :)

At least it's a democracy up to this stuff this time. I've had it up to here with loony dictatorships making new weapons programs.

Nothing wrong with test-firing....

Just do not use it on other people unless attacked first.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Pakistan. India's got da shizzle now!

At least it's a democracy up to this stuff this time. I've had it up to here with loony dictatorships making new weapons programs.

India's government is fairly corrupt. It may be my parent's home country, but it can still be a dick at times.

India's government is fairly corrupt. It may be my parent's home country, but it can still be a dick at times.

Probably not any more corrupt than China. And probably less corrupt than Pakistan.

I believe Pakistan and India have a policy of, "We won't fire unless you do" right?

India's government is fairly corrupt. It may be my parent's home country, but it can still be a dick at times.

Far less so than the PRC, Pakistan, Iran or the North Koreans, though.

Far less so than the PRC, Pakistan, Iran or the North Koreans, though.

Aye, but it's still not a country I'd like to see have long-range nukage ability.
Especially since the retaliation would almost inevitably take out Gujarat.

I believe Pakistan and India have a policy of, "We won't fire unless you do" right?

I think so, at least theoretically. Still, everyone is theoretically peace-loving and will only fight in self defence....

Pretty much anybody getting bigger, fancier weapons is a bad thing. An arms race is never a good thing for peace, and India has other things to spend money on at the moment. 20 bucks says that Pakistan or China (or possibly both) will be worried by this, and will start work on weapons technology to counterbalance this one.

I believe Pakistan and India have a policy of, "We won't fire unless you do" right?
I think that both sides have come to the conclusion that another war over Kashmir won't solve anything, and I think relations have been thawing over the past few years. I'm not building an air-raid shelter and preparing for WWIII.

Far less so than the PRC, Pakistan, Iran or the North Koreans, though.You'd be surprised. I've heard India is very corrupt, and that it is pretty much a way of life.

I just found a corruption report that states that 80% of people who interacted with the police in 2005 had needed to pay a bribe. And over 60% of everyone surveyed had direct experience of corruption in the past year. That's pretty damning stuff.

http://www.cmsindia.org/cms/events/corruption.pdf

I want my own.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Titan_II_ICBM.jpg/473px-Titan_II_ICBM.jpg

I think so, at least theoretically. Still, everyone is theoretically peace-loving and will only fight in self defence....

Pretty much anybody getting bigger, fancier weapons is a bad thing. An arms race is never a good thing for peace, and India has other things to spend money on at the moment. 20 bucks says that Pakistan or China (or possibly both) will be worried by this, and will start work on weapons technology to counterbalance this one.

yep, you know you're in a heated arms race when your counterbalancing a counterbalance

I want my own.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Titan_II_ICBM.jpg/473px-Titan_II_ICBM.jpg

I know how you feel. I want my own Katyusha, myself.

Good 'Ol arms race, lemme guess, China will be developing a new anti missile curtain that will of course make the US worried.

In anyways, according to Corruption Perceptions Index by Transparency International, it appears that India is equally as corrupt as the PRC.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Pakistan. India's got da shizzle now!

Agni I and Prithvi series are enough for Pakistan. This one is for China. To counter the IRBM's they have placed in Tibet which can take out any city, even in south India.

I believe Pakistan and India have a policy of, "We won't fire unless you do" right?

India has an official universal "No first Use" policy for nukes.

Pakistan does not have such a policy.

I believe China's NFU is only to non-nuke states.

lets place sanctions and threaten war, they haven't even signed the NPT! :eek: :p

At least it's a democracy up to this stuff this time. I've had it up to here with loony dictatorships making new weapons programs.

United States?

ballistics missile eh?

Figured the rest of the world would be on lazer guided by now. :p

I've been playing too much C&C

India has an official universal "No first Use" policy for nukes.

Pakistan does not have such a policy.

I believe China's NFU is only to non-nuke states.Nor do the USA, UK or France have a NFU policy. It's not like they really mean anything. These countries aren't going to be going to war any time soon, and so have absolutely no reason to be firing off nukes.

Nor do the USA, UK or France have a NFU policy. It's not like they really mean anything. These countries aren't going to be going to war any time soon, and so have absolutely no reason to be firing off nukes.

IMHO, the US would only use its current nukes if someone nuked something in the US, and there was a valid countertarget (i.e., if a state actor could be held responsible for the attack on the US).

Now, if the US gets serious about smaller nukes that are meant to dig out deeply hardened targets (and there aren't any under development at the moment - that seems to have been cancelled), there might be a US first use.

IMHO, the US would only use its current nukes if someone nuked something in the US, and there was a valid countertarget (i.e., if a state actor could be held responsible for the attack on the US).

The US changed its nuke doctrine recently to explicitly allow it the first use of nukes.

Nor do the USA, UK or France have a NFU policy. It's not like they really mean anything. These countries aren't going to be going to war any time soon, and so have absolutely no reason to be firing off nukes.

Not really.

NFU's mean something. "Moral high ground" may sound contrary to realpolitik, but they do have their values.

It shows that India is viewing its nuke options purely as deterrence, so much so that it has unilaterally declared universal NFU.

When NPT was introduced, there was an understanding that nukes won't be used against non-nuke nations signing NPT.

It is ironical that a non-NPT nation has taken the moral high ground on this.

Nothing wrong with test-firing....

Just do not use it on other people unless attacked first.

Weren't you one of those going "nuke North Korea" for firing one of their long range missiles?

http://www.hindu.com/2007/04/13/images/2007041304010101.jpg

Rough pictorial representation of range.

Chinese response

http://www.spacewar.com/2006/070412085049.sg8ffeyt.html
China reacted swiftly saying it hoped that India, "as a country with an important influence in this region, can work to maintain and promote peace and stability in the region.

"We hope they can make a positive contribution in this regard and play a positive role," foreign ministry spokesman Qin Gang said in Beijing.

:D

India has successfully tested a long range missile capable of travelling 3000km or 1900 miles, apparently to counter the military strength of China and Pakistan

i heard on the news that this could easily reach anywhere in the middle East or China.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/12/AR2007041200525.html

God Bless India! *Indian flags around*

God Bless India! *Indian flags around*

Which one :D

Trick question, there's really only one Hindu God.