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Remember that University of Florida department faculty that refused to grant governor Jeb Bush an honorary degree? Well, the Republican state legislature has responded...

Upset by this lack of Jeb Bush adoration, the conservative-controlled House Schools & Learning Council voted yesterday to force the university to rename its education school the "Jeb Bush College of Education."

Over the faculty’s opposition, the school will now have "to erect 'suitable markers' noting the college’s new name and include the revised name in all university documents, including catalogues and brochures." The lawmakers acknowledge they "came up with the idea as an answer" to the faculty’s denial of Bush’s honorary degree.

(link to full story (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/11/bush-education/))

Ouch...

Uh...what the fuck?

Lol pwned.

I really did lol. You godda love florida.

What a bunch of petty little douchebags.

I seriously hope this is a April Fools joke.

Ouch...

I think the university needs a new logo. No doubt they can come up with something... suited... to Bush.

I seriously hope this is a April Fools joke.

Afraid not (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2007/04/the_jeb_bush_co.html). It's amazing to me, living here, how the Republicans, who control the state legislature, who can get damn near anything they want passed, can still be such a bunch of petty, whiny, small-minded assmonkeys.

What a shitty, trashy state.

You godda love florida.

And a special kinda love it is, of the sort usually held in reserve for such things as an unwanted pubic louse.

How is this not an abuse of office?

Who the fuck voted a douche like that into office in the first place?

Does anyone else think this is what a 4 year old would do?

I believe the official response from the school should be, to quote Goodfellas, "Go fuck your mother."

Were I the dean, I'd put up the sign in pink, flaming gay letters. Or, if they forced it to be a "good" sign, I'd make sure NO ONE were EVER caught for defacing it. If they were, I'd deal out the punishment myself: "Answer me what's 2+2 or lose one dollar of your tuition".

Can we expect a lot of student protests over this? I know that here in Glasgow, us Scots would be all over something like this.

Florida is so fucked up.

Can we expect a lot of student protests over this? I know that here in Glasgow, us Scots would be all over something like this.
I expect everyone and their mom to protest this and we will be hearing about it shortly.

Can we expect a lot of student protests over this? I know that here in Glasgow, us Scots would be all over something like this.

Here in Brazil, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqWi1AztLJ0

This song got stuck in my head when I read this thread.

Here in Brazil, too.

I propose a Glaswegian-Brazilian-Floridian student protest alliance!

EDIT: Yay! New title!

Is this "story" available on any news sources? I checked the BBC, CNN, and Fox News and didn't see it. I also checked the University of Florida's website and didn't see it there. I also called the Florida House Schools & Learning Council (long distance from CT), and they referred me to House Bill 621 (the blog on the Orlando Sentinel also mentioned HB 621). I checked HB 621, and didn't see anywhere in the bill's text or staff analysis where Jeb Bush's name is even mentioned. Since
CS/SB 1160 is a related bill, I checked that as well, and again, there is no mention of Jeb Bush's name.

Is this "story" available on any news sources? I checked the BBC, CNN, and Fox News and didn't see it. I also checked the University of Florida's website and didn't see it there. I also called the Florida House Schools & Learning Council (long distance from CT), and they referred me to House Bill 621 (the blog on the Orlando Sentinel also mentioned HB 621). I checked HB 621, and didn't see anywhere in the bill's text or staff analysis where Jeb Bush's name is even mentioned. Since
CS/SB 1160 is a related bill, I checked that as well, and again, there is no mention of Jeb Bush's name.

http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-48,GGLJ:en&oe=UTF-8&tab=wn&ncl=1115251124&hl=en

Ahahaha. Wankers.

I think the university needs a new logo. No doubt they can come up with something... suited... to Bush.

Attractive members of the student body?

Ahahaha. Wankers.

That would be funnier if I didn't know you were laughing at all of the US.

Can we expect a lot of student protests over this? I know that here in Glasgow, us Scots would be all over something like this.
They can take our college names, but they can never take our FREEEEDDOOOOMMM!!

They can take our college names, but they can never take our FREEEEDDOOOOMMM!!

Actually, that's EXACTLY what they're trying to take away. This is a message: "Suck up to our guy - or else.".

Doesn't this violate a bunch of laws?

For all of you who do not live in the State of Florida, before you jump on the “I hate Jeb Bush because I hate his brother bandwagon,” you probably should look into what he did for the state in terms of education. He was quite the proponent of furthering education, something his predecessor failed to address. While you all might hate the whole voucher system, or No Child Left Behind, both programs have drastically advanced the state of education in Florida.

Bush put accountability on the schools, teachers, and administrators, and the result has been a substantial increase in the literacy, test scores, and over all education levels in the state.

Furthermore, he revoked affirmative action for all state universities. I know many people who would have easily been allowed into Miami, or the University of Florida but were denied due to their test scores rather than the fact they might be a 16h Native American or another minority.

Say what you want about the man’s brother, but as a governor, Bush brought in an incredible period of prosperity for the State of Florida, in terms of education, tourism, etc etc. He did his job extremely well, and deserves this honor.

You must be in some different Florida than everyone else in Florida.

Florida is so fucked up.

Listen to Maraque, folks. He speaks the truth. :)

For all of you who do not live in the State of Florida, before you jump on the “I hate Jeb Bush because I hate his brother bandwagon,” you probably should look into what he did for the state in terms of education. He was quite the proponent of furthering education, something his predecessor failed to address. While you all might hate the whole voucher system, or No Child Left Behind, both programs have drastically advanced the state of education in Florida.

Bush put accountability on the schools, teachers, and administrators, and the result has been a substantial increase in the literacy, test scores, and over all education levels in the state.

Furthermore, he revoked affirmative action for all state universities. I know many people who would have easily been allowed into Miami, or the University of Florida but were denied due to their test scores rather than the fact they might be a 16h Native American or another minority.

Say what you want about the man’s brother, but as a governor, Bush brought in an incredible period of prosperity for the State of Florida, in terms of education, tourism, etc etc. He did his job extremely well, and deserves this honor.

Are you a teacher, living in Florida? If not, let's ask for The Nazz's opinion on this, and see what he has to say.

For all of you who do not live in the State of Florida, before you jump on the “I hate Jeb Bush because I hate his brother bandwagon,” you probably should look into what he did for the state in terms of education. He was quite the proponent of furthering education, something his predecessor failed to address. While you all might hate the whole voucher system, or No Child Left Behind, both programs have drastically advanced the state of education in Florida.

Bush put accountability on the schools, teachers, and administrators, and the result has been a substantial increase in the literacy, test scores, and over all education levels in the state.

Furthermore, he revoked affirmative action for all state universities. I know many people who would have easily been allowed into Miami, or the University of Florida but were denied due to their test scores rather than the fact they might be a 16h Native American or another minority.

Say what you want about the man’s brother, but as a governor, Bush brought in an incredible period of prosperity for the State of Florida, in terms of education, tourism, etc etc. He did his job extremely well, and deserves this honor.
I live in Florida, and I work in the education system. Fuck Jeb Bush. He was nothing but a bitch to us, and I applauded when UF told him to jam the idea for an honorary degree, even though I don't work for UF. He subverted the will of the people when it came to K-12 education as well, refusing to fund the class size legislation that passed overwhelmingly via referendum, and he screwed over the smaller universities in the state as well. And if UF, who received the lion's share of state funding, didn't like him, you can imagine how the rest of us feel about him.

As far as the rest of the job he did as governor is concerned--he got lucky and rode a real estate bubble for the last five years, a bubble that's bursting now under the weight of overpriced real estate, high property taxes, and unreal property insurance rates. If you want to blow Jeb!, go somewhere else to do it.

Are you a teacher, living in Florida? If not, let's ask for The Nazz's opinion on this, and see what he has to say.

Heh. I wrote the reply above before I saw this. Quality. :D

Listen to Maraque, folks. He speaks the truth. :):)

I live in Florida, and I work in the education system. Fuck Jeb Bush. He was nothing but a bitch to us, and I applauded when UF told him to jam the idea for an honorary degree, even though I don't work for UF. He subverted the will of the people when it came to K-12 education as well, refusing to fund the class size legislation that passed overwhelmingly via referendum, and he screwed over the smaller universities in the state as well. And if UF, who received the lion's share of state funding, didn't like him, you can imagine how the rest of us feel about him.

As far as the rest of the job he did as governor is concerned--he got lucky and rode a real estate bubble for the last five years, a bubble that's bursting now under the weight of overpriced real estate, high property taxes, and unreal property insurance rates. If you want to blow Jeb!, go somewhere else to do it.

Hate to be a dick, but how'd he screw small universities?

Heh. I wrote the reply above before I saw this. Quality. :D

Funny, innit?

http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-48,GGLJ:en&oe=UTF-8&tab=wn&ncl=1115251124&hl=en


After watching the archive footage for the 10th (HB 621 starts at approximately 2 hours 12 minutes into the meeting), I will agree that there were 2 amendments to HB 621 brought up at the meeting. The first was for naming a building after Ronald Reagan (suggested by the school that would be affected by the amendment), and the second was the amendment that would name the College of Education after Jeb Bush.

It passed the commitee with 13 affirmative votes, 0 negative votes, and 2 people not there. The breakdown was 8 republicans and 5 democrats. Keep in mind though, that even though the House Schools & Learning Council voted in favor of HB 621 (with its amendments), this issue still has to go to the full legislature (according to the person I spoke to on the phone at the House Schools & Learning Council) to get voted on.

Afraid not (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2007/04/the_jeb_bush_co.html). It's amazing to me, living here, how the Republicans, who control the state legislature, who can get damn near anything they want passed, can still be such a bunch of petty, whiny, small-minded assmonkeys.

Don't mince words, Bones. What do you really think?
Florida is apparently the Alpha and the Omega. Flames soon to come?

Hate to be a dick, but how'd he screw small universities?

He was constantly fucking with our overall funding--and with pay raises for both staff and faculty. And he was especially screwing small universities when it came to Masters and PhD level programs. That's an integral part of how universities not only gain reputation, but gain alumni who then contribute to their alma maters. Small universities already have a tough time with fundraising without the governor and his task forces telling small universities "you don't need that many masters programs" or "you should be an education institution, not a research institution." Jeb was no friend of higher education in Florida, and that's why the UF Faculty Senate took the very unusual step of saying no to an honorary degree.

I guess it's a Bush family tradition to have physical monuments to their monumental incompetence. First it's Dear Leader Dubya with the Presidential Library at SMU which will celebrate his decisive war presidency, and now it's Jeb's turn. He of the 2000 Election debacle, and producer/director of Dawn of the BrainDead (aka the Terri Schiavo brouhaha.) Wonder if the Bush Twins will get a shrine if and when they fuck up just as big as Daddy and Uncle Jeb.

I guess it's a Bush family tradition to have physical monuments to their monumental incompetence. First it's Dear Leader Dubya with the Presidential Library at SMU which will celebrate his decisive war presidency, and now it's Jeb's turn. He of the 2000 Election debacle, and producer/director of Dawn of the BrainDead (aka the Terri Schiavo brouhaha.) Wonder if the Bush Twins will get a shrine if and when they fuck up just as big as Daddy and Uncle Jeb.

Well, Robot Chicken has immortalized them--sort of. ;)

Well, Robot Chicken has immortalized them--sort of. ;)

If by immortalized you mean "stuck them in a Ark of the Covenant-style box in a warehouse" than yes, I suppose you're right.

If by immortalized you mean "stuck them in a Ark of the Covenant-style box in a warehouse" than yes, I suppose you're right.

Whatever it takes, man. Whatever it takes. If we never have another Clinton or Bush in the White House for as long as I live, I won't mind.

Were I the dean, I'd put up the sign in pink, flaming gay letters. Or, if they forced it to be a "good" sign, I'd make sure NO ONE were EVER caught for defacing it. If they were, I'd deal out the punishment myself: "Answer me what's 2+2 or lose one dollar of your tuition".

I'd make the building the homoerotic art gallery.

He was constantly fucking with our overall funding--and with pay raises for both staff and faculty. And he was especially screwing small universities when it came to Masters and PhD level programs. That's an integral part of how universities not only gain reputation, but gain alumni who then contribute to their alma maters. Small universities already have a tough time with fundraising without the governor and his task forces telling small universities "you don't need that many masters programs" or "you should be an education institution, not a research institution." Jeb was no friend of higher education in Florida, and that's why the UF Faculty Senate took the very unusual step of saying no to an honorary degree.

They should have a degree called "Master of Incompetence" - a special honourary degree for people like Jeb. :)

For all of you who do not live in the State of Florida, before you jump on the “I hate Jeb Bush because I hate his brother bandwagon,” you probably should look into what he did for the state in terms of education. He was quite the proponent of furthering education, something his predecessor failed to address. While you all might hate the whole voucher system, or No Child Left Behind, both programs have drastically advanced the state of education in Florida.

Bush put accountability on the schools, teachers, and administrators, and the result has been a substantial increase in the literacy, test scores, and over all education levels in the state.

Furthermore, he revoked affirmative action for all state universities. I know many people who would have easily been allowed into Miami, or the University of Florida but were denied due to their test scores rather than the fact they might be a 16h Native American or another minority.

Say what you want about the man’s brother, but as a governor, Bush brought in an incredible period of prosperity for the State of Florida, in terms of education, tourism, etc etc. He did his job extremely well, and deserves this honor.
So he deserves his ass kissed for the very reasons they decided to deny him the honorary degree in the first place. Genius.

PS. He did what for tourism? The only way you could fuck up tourism in Florida is nuke the god damn state.

"This amendment may demonstrate to some folks around the state and around the country that the office of the governor of Florida is a very prestigious and honorable office and is certainly deserving of an honorary degree," Rivera said.

"Some may take it as a message," he added. "But more importantly it's an appropriate recognition of a distinguished governor's accomplishments in the field of education."


Surely that should be up to the university to decide? And they did. 38-28.

Also. I didn't think upon reading the thread title that "Jeb Bush College of Education" was going to be anything other than a joke about stupid politicians. I just can't take that name seriously. Especially the "of Education" at the end. It just sounds like a joke. It is a joke. But I'm not laughing.

:headbang:

PS. He did what for tourism? The only way you could fuck up tourism in Florida is nuke the god damn state.

People would still clamor to see "Mickey the Mouse(now with nine different kinds of cancer)", and "Goofy(Burned to a husk! Fun for the whole family)", as well as ride the rides at Atomic Disney! It would take more than that to fuck up tourism in Florida.

I'd make the building the homoerotic art gallery.

Nice!