NationStates Jolt Archive

Most jokes are fairly lame, and a lot of jokes rely on the ridicule of one or more people, often by a particular identifier (rednecks, men, women, one ethnicity or another, etc.)

For the longest time, man has laughed at this sort of thing.

Now it seems that some people think this is offensive. Well, I guess we're not allowed to joke anymore at anyone else's expense. Or perhaps, at some groups and not at others. Apparently, you can make a career out of laughing at rednecks, but you can't joke about African-Americans unless you are one (and maybe not even then).

Let's take turns submitting jokes that laugh at the expense of others - and then comment on whether or not you think the jokes previously presented are offensive or not.

I'll start:

Shamus and Patrick are two Irishmen working at the local sawmill.

One day Shamus slips and his arm gets caught and severed by the big bench saw.

Patrick quickly puts the limb in a plastic bag and rushes it and Shamus to the local hospital.

Next day, Patrick goes to the hospital and asks after Shamus.

The nurse says, 'Oh he's out in Rehab exercising'.

Patrick couldn't believe it, but here's Shamus out the back exercising his now reattached arm.
The very next day he's back at work in the saw mill.

Couple of days go by, and then Shamus slips and severs his leg on another bloody big saw thing.
So Patrick puts the limb in a plastic bag and rushes it and Shamus off to hospital again.

Next day he calls in to see him and asks the nurse how he is.

The nurse replies, 'He's out in the Rehab again exercising'. And sure
enough, here's Shamus out there doing some serious work on the treadmill.

Patrick cannot believe what he is seeing and Shamus comes back to work again the very next day.

But, as usual, within a couple of days he has another accident and severs his head.
Wearily Patrick puts the head in a plastic bag and transports it and Shamus to hospital yet again.

Next day he goes in and asks the nurse how Shamus is.

The nurse breaks down and cries and says, 'He's dead'

Patrick is shocked, but not surprised. 'I suppose the saw finally did him in'

'No,' says the nurse,

Some dopey b*stard put his head in a plastic bag and he suffocated

funny.

and in no way offensive.
now one that might be...



How do you stop 2 african kids jumping on your bed.

Stick velcro to the ceiling.

funny.

and in no way offensive.
now one that might be...



How do you stop 2 african kids jumping on your bed.

Stick velcro to the ceiling.

Ah, so it's OK to make fun of Irishmen, with a stereotype that has no basis in reality?

You realise that every joke makes fun of a beings predicament?

Ah, so it's OK to make fun of Irishmen, with a stereotype that has no basis in reality?

sure, why not?

Let's take turns submitting jokes that laugh at the expense of others - and then comment on whether or not you think the jokes previously presented are offensive or not.

Does this include jokes that deliberately emphasise a negative stereotype of a population group ?

Example:
"A Mexican walks to the till to pay for his groceries"

Yes, not the best one, but you get the idea.

So far, it's OK to make fun of Irishmen. But apparently not African-Americans.

How about Native Americans/First People?

Example:

A little Indian boy has a new baby brother. He is a little perplexed about what his mother and father are going to name the child, so he asks his old wise grandfather.
"Grandfather," he asks, "How do new babies in our tribe get their names?"
The wise old man replies, "See my son, when a new child is born into the tribe, the father leaves the teepee and walks through the forest. Whatever wild animal he sees, that is what he names the child. If the father sees a running deer, the child is named Running Deer. If father sees a flying bird, child is named Flying Bird.
"Why do you ask, Two Dogs Fucking?"

Ah, so it's OK to make fun of Irishmen, with a stereotype that has no basis in reality?

what that they're limbs can be re-attached? That joke of your could easily have been any nationality/ethnicity. Hell you don't even need to specify a specific group. simply say men instead of Irishmen and use 2 common name from your area.

Whereas the joke i posted has more racial conotations. Because if you want to read into it you could see it has making a link between an african persons hair and velcro loops. So its more race specific.

Does this include jokes that deliberately emphasise a negative stereotype of a population group ?

Example:
"A Mexican walks to the till to pay for his groceries"

Yes, not the best one, but you get the idea.

Exactly. Discuss why one is allowed and another is not.

An Englishman, an Australian and a South African are in a London pub drinking together.

The Australian orders a round of drinks, drains his own in one gulp, throws the empty glass over his shoulder, and says to the others "In my country, we have so much gold I never need to drink from the same glass glass twice".

The South African orders a round of drinks, drains his own in one gulp, throws the empty glass over his shoulder, and says to the others "In my country, we have so many diamonds I never need to drink from the same glass glass twice".

Finally, the Englishman orders a round of drinks, drains his own in one gulp, pulls a pistol from his belt and shoots the Australian and the South African dead at the table. He looks at their corpses and says "In my country, we have so many of you fuckers I don't need to drink with the same one's twice".


I don't think that this is particularly offensive. It's more social commentary than anything. And, furthermore, this joke was told me by a South African, who even laughed herself afterward....

I know a non-offensive joke!

Two parrots are sitting on a perch. One says to the other: "Can you smell fish?"


...
I didn't say it was very good.

Here's one for all the feminists:

Why do women prefer circumcised men?
They can't resist the 10% off!

Exactly. Discuss why one is allowed and another is not.

think we're still waiting for you to discuss you original joke

A woman went into a bar, and asked for a double entendre. So the barman gave her one.

Hands up who gets it.

Hands up who gets it.

Surely everyone gets it? (And it's an old joke, I heard it at school!)

And you'll excuse me for not raising my hand, for fear of what I might get ;)

I know a non-offensive joke!

Two parrots are sitting on a perch. One says to the other: "Can you smell fish?"


...
I didn't say it was very good.
And in a similar vein - Two fish are in a tank. One says to the other, "You man the gun, I'll drive."

I love jokes based on simple wordplay.

Here's one for all the feminists:

Why do women prefer circumcised men?
They can't resist the 10% off!
Lolz! :D

What's red and gets smaller and smaller?
Baby with a potato peeler

And in a similar vein - Two fish are in a tank. One says to the other, "You man the gun, I'll drive."

That's a much better one :)



Two nuns are in the bath.

One says "Where's the soap?"

The other replies "It does, doesn't it!"

Why did Khrushchev have Stalin removed from Lenin's Mausoleum and buried 8 feet deep beside the Kremlin walls?

Because deep down he was actually quite a nice guy.

I converted that from an anti-semitic joke that I found on facebook on a English Nationalist group. None of the jokes were funny... some had potential. I think what makes a racist/sexist/bigoted joke unfunny is if it refers to a group rather than an individual.
1) What's long black and smelly?

The queue for the dole

2) Why are 50p peices hexagonal?

So we can use spanners to prise them from the clenched fists of jews

3) What is black has eight legs and makes little girls scream? gang rape

4) What is 18" long and keeps women up all night screaming? cot death

5) Did you see the news last night?
Two muslims got shot dead outside Tesco's. . . . . . . .

Every Little Helps!

6 )What's the difference between a five year old girl and a bowling ball?

You can only get three fingers in a bowling ball!

7) Why are jews buried 8 feet under?

Cos deep down, they're not so bad.

8) Why is there always a bucket of shit at a black womans wedding..

keeps the flies off the bride!

9) Why cant muslims play football...
everytime they have a corner they open up a shop

10) difference between a pakki and a ******?

10 minutes on the bbq

11)What happened to the black who looked up his family tree?

a gorrilla took a shit on his face!

A woman went into a bar, and asked for a double entendre. So the barman gave her one.

Hands up who gets it.What exactly are we putting our hands up?

Ah, so it's OK to make fun of Irishmen, with a stereotype that has no basis in reality?

The joke you posted didn't have any ethnic stereotype other than in the names. It's not like you called them drunks or anything. I fail to see what Irish stereotype you were evoking in that joke.

The joke you posted didn't have any ethnic stereotype other than in the names. It's not like you called them drunks or anything. I fail to see what Irish stereotype you were evoking in that joke.Stupidity? The guy constantly getting his limbs cut off, and the guy thinking that someone can live for a considerable amount of time if they have been decapitated, and the nurse for thinking that the guy died of suffocation?

Like the the various jokes that involve a Scotsman, an Englishman and an Irishman

An Englishman, a Scotsman, and an Irishman are stuck on a mountain. They pray to God for help. God speaks to them and creates a slide for them to be able to get safely down to the mountain. He also says that what ever they shout out as they go down the slide will we waiting for them at the base of the slide.

The Englishman goes first and shouts 'Money!' and is whacks straight into some very heavy currency at the bottom of the slide and dies of concussion.

The Scotsman goes second and shouts 'Women!' and is subsequently impaled upon many many pairs of stilettoes at the bottom of the slide.

The Irishman jumps on the slide with a huge grin on his face and shouts 'Wee!' all the way down.

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Or - An Englishman, a Scotsman, and an Irishman are stranded on a desert island with no hope of escape, when they stumble upon a magic lamp. They rub the lamp and a genie emerges. He says that he will grant them each one wish. Of the course the Englishman immediately wishes he was back home with his family. The Scotsman ponders for a while over whether to wish to be back with his family or for a lifetimes supply of drink, but eventually wishes he was back in Scotland. The Irishman, being left till last is all on his own. He looks around and tells the genie that he's missing his friends and wishes they were back here with him.

They all play on the stereotype that the Irish are supposedly stupid.

Stupidity? The guy constantly getting his limbs cut off, and the guy thinking that someone can live for a considerable amount of time if they have been decapitated, and the nurse for thinking that the guy died of suffocation?

But that's not an Irish stereotype, at least not where I'm from. If the names aren't Shamus and Patrick and they aren't explicitly named as Irishmen, then what would make them Irish in this joke? For it to be a stereotype of a group, there has to be more of a signifier, and it generally has to be a negative one.

But that's not an Irish stereotype, at least not where I'm from. If the names aren't Shamus and Patrick and they aren't explicitly named as Irishmen, then what would make them Irish in this joke? For it to be a stereotype of a group, there has to be more of a signifier, and it generally has to be a negative one.I edited in two jokes that play on the stereotype of the Irish being stupid. Mind you, the first also plays on the English being greedy and the Scotish being lustful.

An Englishman, Pakistani and a Nigerian man walk into a bar.


What a wonderful example of a multi-cultural society.



IMO jokes that play on stereotypes are ok, does anybody seriously believe negative stereotypes? (gotta stop saying stereotypes or a scouser will get excited) see i just made a joke about scousers robbing car stereos, is that wrong? yes, because its a crap joke, but im a scouser, and take no offence at socuse jokes.

But that's not an Irish stereotype, at least not where I'm from. If the names aren't Shamus and Patrick and they aren't explicitly named as Irishmen, then what would make them Irish in this joke? For it to be a stereotype of a group, there has to be more of a signifier, and it generally has to be a negative one.

For some reason in England Paddy is considered to be thicker than pig swill.

Why is the Mexican Olympic team so lousy?

Anyone that can run, jump or swim is in the USA by now

But that's not an Irish stereotype, at least not where I'm from.

Well, it is here :p


Anyway, a Nun is teaching her class, and they're discussing their future careers. "What would you like to be when you're older?", she asks.
A little girl sticks up her hand, and is chosen. "I'd like to be a prostitute!"
"You want to be a what?!", demands the nun, clearly shocked.
"A prostitute..."

"Oh, tank heavens for that! I thought you said you wanted to be a protestant..."

funny.

and in no way offensive.
now one that might be...



How do you stop 2 african kids jumping on your bed.

Stick velcro to the ceiling.

So why is it aceptable to rip the piss out of Irishmen for being homogenously stupid, but not to make light of the contention that all black people have Afros, which stick to velcro?

Could you be anymore inculcatedly, moronically, multiculturally politically correct.

The "offence" caused by the first joke, though to my mind irrelevant, and marginal at any rate, far surpasses that of the second, which is an observation upon the nature of an afro, and its popularity as a hairstyle.

One more example; all emo kids have long fringes. No doubt tranches of jokes to which this statement is central are a source of great amusement and jocularity, and yet the underlying premise is the same.

So why is it aceptable to rip the piss out of Irishmen for being homogenously stupid, but not to make light of the contention that all black people have Afros, which stick to velcro?

Could you be anymore inculcatedly, moronically, multiculturally politically correct.

The "offence" caused by the first joke, though to my mind irrelevant, and marginal at any rate, far surpasses that of the second, which is an observation upon the nature of an afro, and its popularity as a hairstyle.
Neither joke is particularly offensive to our ears (or eyes), but that doesn't mean that they're inoffensive to everyone. For example, I would be unmoved by jokes about the Holocaust, but somehow I don't think all Jews would think the same way.

would jokes about the 9/11 victims be acceptable? there are lots about the holocaust or about the terrorists, but i haven't heard one about the victims, why?

would jokes about the 9/11 victims be acceptable? there are lots about the holocaust or about the terrorists, but i haven't heard one about the victims, why?

Probably due to the "could have been me" thoughts in the back of most peoples head. Holocaust victims and terrorists are groups many classify as "other people".

But that's not an Irish stereotype, at least not where I'm from. If the names aren't Shamus and Patrick and they aren't explicitly named as Irishmen, then what would make them Irish in this joke? For it to be a stereotype of a group, there has to be more of a signifier, and it generally has to be a negative one.

Ok, put some stereotypical Amos and Andy names in there, and see if it's offensive.

So, it's ok to joke about a stereotype if you're in a place where no one has seen someone of that ethnicity/race...

So why is it aceptable to rip the piss out of Irishmen for being homogenously stupid, but not to make light of the contention that all black people have Afros, which stick to velcro?

Could you be anymore inculcatedly, moronically, multiculturally politically correct.

The "offence" caused by the first joke, though to my mind irrelevant, and marginal at any rate, far surpasses that of the second, which is an observation upon the nature of an afro, and its popularity as a hairstyle.

One more example; all emo kids have long fringes. No doubt tranches of jokes to which this statement is central are a source of great amusement and jocularity, and yet the underlying premise is the same.

again its all down to interpretation.
In the first joke, we have to irishmen working in a mill.
Its not specified where the mill is.
One of them appears to be very clumsy as he keeps on having accidents.
His irish compatriot on seeing these accidents show intelligences and the ability to deal with situations under pressure since he get the injured one to hospital aswell as saving the limb incase it can be re-attached.
Then at the hospital, which we still don't know where it is, we find a nurse, no nationality given, who says that the irishmem is already in rehab. Pretty impressive hospital, and respect to the irishmen is has very high healing strenghs. Oh and respect to him for going back to work the next day instead of taking advantage of any 'time off' he might be entitled too.
Till his heads cut of and he receives oxygen depravation he seem to survive everything.
So the stereotype is 50% of irishmen or clumsy and can only be killed through oxygen deprevation while the other 50% work well under pressure.

So jokes can be interpreted however you want. Although I think it was told better the other way, than above;)

in the case of the second joke the comparing an african persons hair to velcro could get someone back up because of the comparison and the fact that it is race specific. Personally i don't think its offensive, but I've been in the situation where someone said "you can't say that!" when I told the joke. Why? because I used the word black/african when telling it.

Oh and whats an emo?

blackman, gypsie and scouser are all in a car. who's driving?

the police.

This could also been seen as racist due to the reference that all of the aboves 'peoples' are criminals.

Probably due to the "could have been me" thoughts in the back of most peoples head. Holocaust victims and terrorists are groups many classify as "other people".
I think it's perhaps more a not yet time for jokes.
It takes a while between a tragic event happening and people feeling comfortable laughing about it.

An Englishman, Scotsman and Irishman order a pint each. Each pint comes with the added extra of a fly swimming amongst the suds.
The Englishman turns green, pushes the pint away and demands a replacement.
The Scotsman shrugs, flicks the fly out and proceeds to down his pint.
The Irishman picks the fly up, starts shaking it and yells, "Spit it out! Spit it out!"

would jokes about the 9/11 victims be acceptable? there are lots about the holocaust or about the terrorists, but i haven't heard one about the victims, why?I just found some 9/11 jokes - some are quite funny... *hides*

"It's a bird!"
"It's a plane!"
"It's.... Oh shit, it IS a plane!"

Did you hear the one about American Airlines new deal? They’ll fly you straight from the airport to the office.

Q: What's the biggest difference between 9/11 and the Oklahoma City Bombing?
A: Foreigners once again prove they can do it better and more efficiently.

Q: When does a pentagon have four sides?
A: When it intersects a plane.

Q: How long does it take to reach the ground from 107 stories up?
A: The rest of your life!

Well, 9/11 sure proves one thing... New Yorkers can really come together in a crunch!

I just found some 9/11 jokes some are quite funny... *hides*

*is not American*
*finds most of those jokes chuckle-worthy*
*chuckles*

*is not American*
*finds most of those jokes chuckle-worthy*
*chuckles*
*agrees*
*also chuckles*

Especially the pentagon/plane one. But that's just me and my liking for wordplay.

The others are a bit crap, except the first one.

I knew I'd heard some :)

The American Airlines one is the same as that Concorde/Hotel joke...

Ah, so it's OK to make fun of Irishmen, with a stereotype that has no basis in reality?

Yes, that is correct.

I judge jokes by how funny they are. If someone gets offended they are probably a liberal and I don't have too much truck for liberals.

I judge jokes by how funny they are. If someone gets offended they are probably a liberal and I don't have too much truck for liberals.

The question is, why do you find something to be funny? Is it because the joke reinforces your stereotypes of groups of people? Is it because it takes a shot at the powerful? the powerless? You may never have considered why you find certain things funny and other things unfunny before, but it says a lot about your personality as to what you find funny and why.

Well, it is here :p


Anyway, a Nun is teaching her class, and they're discussing their future careers. "What would you like to be when you're older?", she asks.
A little girl sticks up her hand, and is chosen. "I'd like to be a prostitute!"
"You want to be a what?!", demands the nun, clearly shocked.
"A prostitute..."

"Oh, tank heavens for that! I thought you said you wanted to be a protestant..."

BWahahahahha!

The question is, why do you find something to be funny? Is it because the joke reinforces your stereotypes of groups of people? Is it because it takes a shot at the powerful? the powerless? You may never have considered why you find certain things funny and other things unfunny before, but it says a lot about your personality as to what you find funny and why.

That must make me a ****, then.
I found at least half of TID's xIst jokes quite funny, but that doesn't mean that I think that all black people are smelly, dole-scrounging gang-rapists, or that I endorse cot-death particularly...
Possibly I just laugh at some things that cause others offence ;p

Of course, some of them - the bucket of crap one most of all - were just offensive comments. No more a joke than saying "black women smell of poo!" is a joke.

Oh and whats an emo?
A sad little wanna be goth?
Elmo.. without the "l"?
I dunno...

Ok, put some stereotypical Amos and Andy names in there, and see if it's offensive.

So, it's ok to joke about a stereotype if you're in a place where no one has seen someone of that ethnicity/race...

You're going to dislocate your shoulder stretching to make this work, you know.

The question is, why do you find something to be funny? Is it because the joke reinforces your stereotypes of groups of people? Is it because it takes a shot at the powerful? the powerless? You may never have considered why you find certain things funny and other things unfunny before, but it says a lot about your personality as to what you find funny and why.

I think certian things are just funny. I mean who know why we laugh when we see somebody trip up, or fall over. We are laughing at others misfourtune, why? I dunno, I don't really care. Comedy is, or at least should be free form all forms of censorship, or political correctness.

A sad little wanna be goth?
Elmo.. without the "l"?
I dunno...

Emo is a genre of music, Emotionaly charged rock - Emo. Normaly listend to teenagres of the rock persuasian, the Emo kid sterotype is one of a depressed, selfhamrning, social outcast teenager(so that's all of them then?)

Two Irishmen were going for a stroll through the forest. They see a sign next to a logging operation that proclaims, 'Tree Fellers wanted'
Paddy turns to Mick and says, "ahh...now int that a shame? If only Shamus had been wit us, we could've gotten ourselves a job!"

You realise that every joke makes fun of a beings predicament?
Why does an elephant have four feet?























...because eight inches just isn't enough. :headbang:


M'kay, somewhat of a predicament, i guess.

How about, what's green, sings, and caused some censorship for pelvis undulation?




... Elvis Parsley. :gundge:

Bleah, i'll just stop there.

Emo is a genre of music, Emotionaly charged rock - Emo. Normaly listend to teenagres of the rock persuasian, the Emo kid sterotype is one of a depressed, selfhamrning, social outcast teenager(so that's all of them then?)

Question: do you find surdarji jokes generally insulting and offensive?

Why does an elephant have four feet?


...because eight inches just isn't enough. :headbang:


M'kay, somewhat of a predicament, i guess.

How about, what's green, sings, and caused some censorship for pelvis undulation?

Elvis Parsley

Bleah, i'll just stop there.

I think you've just proved that jokes that are in no way offensive just aren't funny.

Got another one,

What do you call a black man flying a plane?

A pilot, you racist!

In this day and age, that joke is much funnier when referring to arabs.

I think you've just proved that jokes that are in no way offensive just aren't funny.

Yes!
*shakes fist in the air*

!Q'apla!

Got another one,

What do you call a black man flying a plane?

A pilot, you racist!

I think you've just proved that jokes that are in no way offensive just aren't funny.
reminds me of a bit in Viz's 'Student Grant' where he's the editor of the uni capping week mag.
At the meeting of what to put in the rag he announces, "I've sorted out the jokes and discarded all the racist ones, sexist ones, ageist ones and sizeist ones. Which leaves us with this one."

Got another one,

What do you call a black man flying a plane?

A pilot, you racist!

What's with the giving away the joke? I feel like i prematurely ejaculated reading your post. :(

Question: do you find surdarji jokes generally insulting and offensive?

Me naaa not at all. In fact I was in this Sikh forum the other day and and there was a right stink about Sadar ji jokes, I was asking whats the problem?

The response I got was along the lines of it's disrespectfull. To which I replied, only if you are so mired maya that the words a human uses can cause you harm.

The other one was, it's disrespectfull to God. To which I replied, are you sure? How does one go about disrespecting God? Can that even be done?

As children we are taught a little ryhme about sticks and stones, it does seem strange that as adults we are allowed to forget this?

reminds me of a bit in Viz's 'Student Grant' where he's the editor of the uni capping week mag.
At the meeting of what to put in the rag he announces, "I've sorted out the jokes and discarded all the racist ones, sexist ones, ageist ones and sizeist ones. Which leaves us with this one."

Ah yes Viz, my favourite humour magazine. They don't particularly care about offending anyone.

What's the difference between an American slipping on your property and an unAmerican slipping on your property? About one lawsuit, if you're lucky.

This joke sucks, but it plays into the stereotype that Americans sue people for everything.

Most jokes are fairly lame, and a lot of jokes rely on the ridicule of one or more people, often by a particular identifier (rednecks, men, women, one ethnicity or another, etc.)

For the longest time, man has laughed at this sort of thing.

Now it seems that some people think this is offensive. Well, I guess we're not allowed to joke anymore at anyone else's expense. Or perhaps, at some groups and not at others. Apparently, you can make a career out of laughing at rednecks, but you can't joke about African-Americans unless you are one (and maybe not even then).

Let's take turns submitting jokes that laugh at the expense of others - and then comment on whether or not you think the jokes previously presented are offensive or not.

I'll start:

Shamus and Patrick are two Irishmen working at the local sawmill.

One day Shamus slips and his arm gets caught and severed by the big bench saw.

Patrick quickly puts the limb in a plastic bag and rushes it and Shamus to the local hospital.

Next day, Patrick goes to the hospital and asks after Shamus.

The nurse says, 'Oh he's out in Rehab exercising'.

Patrick couldn't believe it, but here's Shamus out the back exercising his now reattached arm.
The very next day he's back at work in the saw mill.

Couple of days go by, and then Shamus slips and severs his leg on another bloody big saw thing.
So Patrick puts the limb in a plastic bag and rushes it and Shamus off to hospital again.

Next day he calls in to see him and asks the nurse how he is.

The nurse replies, 'He's out in the Rehab again exercising'. And sure
enough, here's Shamus out there doing some serious work on the treadmill.

Patrick cannot believe what he is seeing and Shamus comes back to work again the very next day.

But, as usual, within a couple of days he has another accident and severs his head.
Wearily Patrick puts the head in a plastic bag and transports it and Shamus to hospital yet again.

Next day he goes in and asks the nurse how Shamus is.

The nurse breaks down and cries and says, 'He's dead'

Patrick is shocked, but not surprised. 'I suppose the saw finally did him in'

'No,' says the nurse,

Some dopey b*stard put his head in a plastic bag and he suffocated

that's a reasonably funny joke, but the irish reference is unnecessary as it would be funny even if it was just two random people. so i suppose someone who was a bit sensitive about the erroneous irish=stupid stereotype might find it offensive. strangely i can't think of any jokes about gingers right now, gingerism perhaps lacks humour, but i don't think i'd necessarily take offence at a joke that used a negative ginger stereotype. scottish and jersey stereotype jokes don't offend me and there are plenty of those.

Two Irishmen were going for a stroll through the forest. They see a sign next to a logging operation that proclaims, 'Tree Fellers wanted'
Paddy turns to Mick and says, "ahh...now int that a shame? If only Shamus had been wit us, we could've gotten ourselves a job!"

now that made me giggle, heh!

The question is, why do you find something to be funny? Is it because the joke reinforces your stereotypes of groups of people? Is it because it takes a shot at the powerful? the powerless? You may never have considered why you find certain things funny and other things unfunny before, but it says a lot about your personality as to what you find funny and why.

could be. but then i think that only holds if the same person that finds ethnic jokes about other ethiicities funny does not like ethnic jokes about their own ethnicity.

if someone laughs at others but cannot laugh at themselves or their identity group they are a dick. otherwise they're okay imo.

Me naaa not at all. In fact I was in this Sikh forum the other day and and there was a right stink about Sadar ji jokes, I was asking whats the problem?

The response I got was along the lines of it's disrespectfull. To which I replied, only if you are so mired maya that the words a human uses can cause you harm.

The other one was, it's disrespectfull to God. To which I replied, are you sure? How does one go about disrespecting God? Can that even be done?

As children we are taught a little ryhme about sticks and stones, it does seem strange that as adults we are allowed to forget this?

Cool.

I feel left out. I never hear any funny Hindu jokes :(:(

Cool.

I feel left out. I never hear any funny Hindu jokes :(:(

Hehe you know the 12:00 O'clock joke?

Hehe you know the 12:00 O'clock joke?

You mean 7-11 right on the dot?

That's the only one I ever hear.

You mean 7-11 right on the dot?

That's the only one I ever hear.

Naaa there is a famous Joke about 12:00 O'clock when all the Sadar Ji's go mad. You have never heard it, it is a famous Hindu joke, like our Englishman, Irishman, and Scotsman jokes, I am supprised.

Anyhoo I was gonna say that the joke is on Hindus, it is a referance to a time when a group of Sikh's whet and raided Mugul camps at midnight in order to rescue Hindu women form their Muslim captures. The history has been forgotten by the majority of Hindu's and only the joke remains, hehe a lot of Sikhs get upset about it, but as I say I look at it the other way around, bearing in light the history, the joke is on the Hindus.

Taaa daaa, my weak attempt a Hindu joke, just for you!

That must make me a ****, then.
I found at least half of TID's xIst jokes quite funny, but that doesn't mean that I think that all black people are smelly, dole-scrounging gang-rapists, or that I endorse cot-death particularly...
Possibly I just laugh at some things that cause others offence ;p

Of course, some of them - the bucket of crap one most of all - were just offensive comments. No more a joke than saying "black women smell of poo!" is a joke.I don't generally see jokes that rely on stereotypes as being offensive. They simply rely on a stereotype to instantly conjour up an image of a person. Like how this joke relies on the stereotype that Lawyers are bad people and worhty of our contempt.

A bored truck driver had a nasty habit of swerving to hit lawyers he found walking along side of the highway. One day as he was driving along he came across a nun who appeared to be having car trouble. Pulling over to offer the nun a ride to the nearest service station, the nun graciously thanked the driver for stopping and accepted his offer. After driving a few miles the truck driver saw a lawyer walking along the highway. As was his custom, the truck driver swerved to hit the lawyer but, at the last moment, remembered he had the nun as a passenger and abruptly swerved away to avoid hitting the lawyer. Surprised upon hearing a loud 'thump' as he passed the truck driver peered in his rear view only to see the lawyer lying injured along side of the road. "I'm so sorry Sister, I thought I missed hitting that lawyer!" the truck driver said. "You did my son, but I got him with the door!" said the nun.

I particularly like your prostitute/protestant joke. Very funny. Kinda reminds of the one about baptists - Why don't Baptists have sex standing up?... It might lead to dancing.

*agrees*
*also chuckles*

Especially the pentagon/plane one. But that's just me and my liking for wordplay.

The others are a bit crap, except the first one.What, you didn't find the one about foreign imports funny? I thought that one was hilarious...

Two Irishmen were going for a stroll through the forest. They see a sign next to a logging operation that proclaims, 'Tree Fellers wanted'
Paddy turns to Mick and says, "ahh...now int that a shame? If only Shamus had been wit us, we could've gotten ourselves a job!"Got another one,

What do you call a black man flying a plane?

A pilot, you racist!lolage :D

Cool.

I feel left out. I never hear any funny Hindu jokes :(:(I looked for funny Hindu jokes. All I could find were jokes where Pakistanis were the subject of the joke, but none with Hindus in. :/

Emo is a genre of music, Emotionaly charged rock - Emo. Normaly listend to teenagres of the rock persuasian, the Emo kid sterotype is one of a depressed, selfhamrning, social outcast teenager(so that's all of them then?)

Emo is the new soft rock. The Emews aren't social outcasts. They like to think they are, but when you're in areas were Emos are a sizeable group, they are just a bunch of angsty teens that pay 40 bucks for a flippy haircut and their whole allowance (or McD Paycheck) on over priced clothes. Or steal their sister's pants.

I had to say it.

I've heard a lot of jokes that play particularly hard on certain groups, minority, majority, etc.. I'm a Redneck that dates a Black chick, I've heard it all, and chances are, I've told most of it myself. I offend a lot of people, and a lot of people have tried to offend me. Doesn't happen. Because when one understands the joke, where it comes from, why it is funny, the offending nature of the joke is disarmed. Once you disarm the joke, the reason behind it seems laughable as well.

I was 14 before I saw a "Minority," I had never seen one in my whole life before that, except on TV. I've heard "Racist" jokes since I was like, 5. It surely failed to reinforce any particular stereotype, good or bad. I still laugh, because it's funny, and I laugh at jokes made about Rednecks. Because, well, they're pretty funny as well.

Here's my take on it: generally, jokes which are intrinsically funny will not be perceived as being nearly as offensive as jokes which are not. So, for example, the joke about flies landing on black women struck me as extremely offensive, since its entire point seemed to be "ha ha, black people smell bad" - hardly the epitome of wit. The prostitute/Protestant joke, on the other hand, is a classic and quite funny (and has the added perk as being arguably insulting to both Catholics and Protestants).

Another factor, too, is the question of who's laughing at whom. It is necessarily more difficult to laugh at those in a less advantaged position. A white man mocking black women is almost certainly likely to make people more uncomfortable than a black woman mocking white men. (In contrast, a white man mocking Condoleezza Rice, personally, will pretty much always be fine.)

Further, there's the added detail of how relevant the stereotype is to the joke. In the first example in this thread, the "Irish = stupid" stereotype (which, I must admit, I've never heard of) seems to me to be entirely irrelevant. The point of the joke has nothing to do with that, and the joke would be fundamentally unchanged if the characters were renamed Jack and Bob, or Sven and Olaf, or Jean-Paul and Pierre. Thus, I really didn't take away from the joke the idea that the teller had any personal distaste for Irishmen. On the contrary, in a joke like the "prying coins from Jews" one, the "greedy Jew" stereotype is absolutely essential to the comprehension of the joke, and thus it is far more likely to make people uncomfortable.

Finally, there's the simple question of how much malice the joke seems to involve. A joke about how great it is when a member of X racial group dies is hard to see as anything but racist, whereas a joke about how some members of X racial group like cheese a whole lot may or may not be racist depending on the joke in question.

I think it's perhaps more a not yet time for jokes.
It takes a while between a tragic event happening and people feeling comfortable laughing about it.

Not where I'm from!

Exactly. Discuss why one is allowed and another is not.

One summarizes a group with a rather simple and shallow stereotype. The other, the Irish joke, does nothing of the sort and says nothing about Irishmen at all other than mentioning them almost as an aside. I'm not sure what's difficult about identifiying the difference.

Meanwhile, you suggest because ONE poster said it was alright, that this somehow settles it being alright. All in all, more smoke than fire here.

Not where I'm from!

A few days after that Brazilian guy got his head blown away by some trigger happy cops on the Tube I saw a guy wearing a T-Shirt saying "Don't Shoot! I'm Not Brazilian" with a big crosshairs...

Jokes that play on stereotypes are jokes all the same. Some are funny, some aren't. Most of the ones that aren't funny aren't even meant to be, they're just meant to be offensive, or to slight whatever group one doesn't like.

Really, such a joke doesn't offend me, so much as it makes me lose any respect I might have had for the person telling it. Like when you hear someone you thought you knew throwing around slurs like "******" or "kike," whatever. You just have to look at them and ask, "Are you serious?"

Offensive jokes are sort of my bread and butter, though. A great deal of my humor is at others' expense, but usually in an ironic sort of way. Racism is best when it's ironic, ie pointing out the stupidity of the racism.

Anyway, here's one that can be fairly offensive--and not ironic at all--but works for basically any group you want (I'm typing it the way I heard it, though):

What's the difference between a black man and a large pizza?


The pizza can feed a family of four.

Oh, the joke fodder that is systemic poverty. Yummy. Just like pizza.

So, a trucker was driving a load of bowling balls up north to canada, on a dark and rainy night.

He sees a black guy on the side of the road hitchhiking and pulls over. The guy says he's trying to get up to canada, and can he please have a ride on account of the rain.

The trucker says yeah, sure, but there's no room in the cab, so get in the back with the bowling balls. The black guy thanks him and gets in, the trucker takes off.

A few miles up the road, he sees another black guy hitchhiking, this one with a bike with flat tires. "Need a ride?" he asks, "I'm going up to canda."

The black guy says yes please, and the trucker points out there's no room up front, but he can get in the back with the other guy, the guy gets in, and they take off.

The trucker gets up to the border and a mountie comes out to inspect his cargo. The mountie goes around to the back, slides open the cargo container, goes white in the face and slams it.

"Turn this truck around right now, and doont come back!" says the mountie, and cuts the trucker off before he can say anything, "NOW!"

The trucker turns around, and the mountie's partner comes out and asks "Lordie, what was that aboot there?"

The first mountie looks up, clearly distressed "that soon of a bitch was smuggling ni**er eggs! two had already hatched, and one had already stoolen a bike!"




Dumbass racist canadians!

So why is it aceptable to rip the piss out of Irishmen for being homogenously stupid, but not to make light of the contention that all black people have Afros, which stick to velcro?

Could you be anymore inculcatedly, moronically, multiculturally politically correct.

The "offence" caused by the first joke, though to my mind irrelevant, and marginal at any rate, far surpasses that of the second, which is an observation upon the nature of an afro, and its popularity as a hairstyle.

One more example; all emo kids have long fringes. No doubt tranches of jokes to which this statement is central are a source of great amusement and jocularity, and yet the underlying premise is the same.

The joke was about them being stupid? I thought the guy was incredibly durable and incredibly clumsy and the other guy was just, well, reasonably amazed. I didn't get stupid in any part of that joke. At all.

Do you know what I find most offensive about the Irish jokes?

I don't think a single one in this thread has managed to spell "Seamus" correctly...

A few days after that Brazilian guy got his head blown away by some trigger happy cops on the Tube I saw a guy wearing a T-Shirt saying "Don't Shoot! I'm Not Brazilian" with a big crosshairs...

For me, George Best's (a demi-god in NI) cremation and the Buncefield fire came far too close together to not make jokes about alcohol burning quite well.

The joke was about them being stupid? I thought the guy was incredibly durable and incredibly clumsy and the other guy was just, well, reasonably amazed. I didn't get stupid in any part of that joke. At all.

The guy thinking that a decapitation victim would survive if you took their head along with their body to hospital and the nurse thinking a man with his head in a plastic bag seperate from their body died of suffocation by the bag did not strike you as being a tad dim?

I don't think a single one in this thread has managed to spell "Seamus" correctly...

Wait until they try spelling Sean, Sian, Sinead or Siobhan correctly...

(pronounced approximately Shawn, Sharn, Shinade and Shiv-on)

Actually - thats pretty easy now I've written them out :( Doesn't transfer into text so well.

Ok, put some stereotypical Amos and Andy names in there, and see if it's offensive.

So, it's ok to joke about a stereotype if you're in a place where no one has seen someone of that ethnicity/race...

Yep, still not seeing it. The first Irishman is patently amazing. He's clumsy but keeps accomplishing the impossible. The other guy does virtually nothing wrong except expecting such things to continue. And the nurse only supplies the joke and has no nationality.

So what's your assertion, that it's a stereotype that Irishmen are amazing healers as a result of being clumsy?

The guy thinking that a decapitation victim would survive if you took their head along with their body to hospital and the nurse thinking a man with his head in a plastic bag seperate from their body died of suffocation by the bag did not strike you as being a tad dim?



Wait until they try spelling Sean, Sian or Siobhan correctly...

Actually - thats pretty easy now I've written them out :( Doesn't transfer into text so well.

You should have said "Shawn", "Shan" and "Shivon" :p

I wonder if anybody can spell "Dervla" properly? (I barely can...it's insane)

You should have said "Shawn", "Shan" and "Shivon" :p

Damn - edited too slow :)

Dervla?!? I don't know that one :( Put me out of my misery!!!

The guy thinking that a decapitation victim would survive if you took their head along with their body to hospital and the nurse thinking a man with his head in a plastic bag seperate from their body died of suffocation by the bag did not strike you as being a tad dim?

The first to feats were impossible. I don't think in jokeland, it's too much of a stretch that after the impossible is witnessed, a person might expect the impossible to continue. When you can show how a guy can be back at work in a couple of days after severing his arm and after a couple of days after severing his leg and nursing a week old arm severing, then I'll consider that anyone expecting the guy to survive a severed head is dim.

Meanwhile, the nurse was the one who said it was suffocation. Was she even Irish?

The first to feats were impossible. I don't think in jokeland, it's too much of a stretch that after the impossible is witnessed, a person might expect the impossible to continue. When you can show how a guy can be back at work in a couple of days after severing his arm and after a couple of days after severing his leg and nursing a week old arm severing, then I'll consider that anyone expecting the guy to survive a severed head is dim.

Meanwhile, the nurse was the one who said it was suffocation. Was she even Irish?

Well - arms and legs are not auto-kills. The joke is clearly stretching it a bit but it should be obvious the decapitation was ment to kill him.

As for the Nurse - it is an Irish joke and so the assumption is she is Irish. It would be quite anal in a joke about the Irish to pick at the wording that the nurse was not fully identified as Irish.

Maybe if there is not a background of Irish jokes where the Irish are portrayed as stupid then this might not be so clear - but I would have thought it was pretty plain the mate and the nurse are being joked at for being pretty thick because they are Irish.

Damn - edited too slow :)

Dervla?!? I don't know that one :( Put me out of my misery!!!

I think it's Dearbhail.

Every year I get reminded by the Christmas card we get from our neighbours:
"Merry Christmas from Siobhan, Dearbhail, Cathal, and Kieron."

I think it's Dearbhail.

Every year I get reminded by the Christmas card we get from our neighbours:
"Merry Christmas from Siobhan, Dearbhail, Cathal, and Kieron."I've seen it spelt as both Dearbhail and Deirbhile (with an acent over teh second a in the former spelling I think).

Well - arms and legs are not auto-kills. The joke is clearly stretching it a bit but it should be obvious the decapitation was ment to kill him.

As for the Nurse - it is an Irish joke and so the assumption is she is Irish. It would be quite anal in a joke about the Irish to pick at the wording that the nurse was not fully identified as Irish.

Maybe if there is not a background of Irish jokes where the Irish are portrayed as stupid then this might not be so clear - but I would have thought it was pretty plain the mate and the nurse are being joked at for being pretty thick because they are Irish.

So it's only clear that it's offensive if one already holds the stereotype? Hmmmm...

I have an Irish name and look Irish and I've heard tons of Irish jokes. The stupid ones must just not be very American. However, either way, this doesn't do a very good job of making them appear stupid since it suspends your disbelief from the get go by allowing for the impossible.

I think it's Dearbhail.

Every year I get reminded by the Christmas card we get from our neighbours:
"Merry Christmas from Siobhan, Dearbhail, Cathal, and Kieron."

WTF?

I can sort of see how it could be pronounced that way - but that's one hell of a name.

Anyway:

There's an Englishman, an Irishman and a Scotsman have been stuck on a desert Island for a year, while walking on the beach they find a magic lamp.

A genie pops out and gives them the standard three wishes -and splits it so they get one each.

The Englishman goes first and asks to be sent home to his Devonshire Village to be reunited with his wife and kids on his farm. Which the genie grants.

The Scotsman reminisces on his home in the Highlands, of is bonnie lass Heather and single malt Scottish Whiskey before also asking to be sent home. *Poof* and his back in the Highlands.

Then t comes to the Irishmans turn for the final wish - to which he says "I miss my two friends, I wish I had them back"

So it's only clear that it's offensive if one already holds the stereotype? Hmmmm...

I have an Irish name and look Irish and I've heard tons of Irish jokes. The stupid ones must just not be very American. However, either way, this doesn't do a very good job of making them appear stupid since it suspends your disbelief from the get go by allowing for the impossible.
A lot of jokes allow for the impossible, or are based on people making extremely unlikely judgements.

Do you just get the Drinking ones over there or do you also get the Catholic ones too?

I've seen it spelt as both Dearbhail and Deirbhile (with an acent over teh second a in the former spelling I think).

Aye, there's an accent in there somewhere, just don't ask me where :p

Neither joke is particularly offensive to our ears (or eyes), but that doesn't mean that they're inoffensive to everyone. For example, I would be unmoved by jokes about the Holocaust, but somehow I don't think all Jews would think the same way.

So one has to evaluate a joke according to one's audiance? No shit.

So one has to evaluate a joke according to one's audiance? No shit.

And the teller - Chris Rock can for example tell jokes about Black people and it is not (very) offensive, Margert Cho can tell jokes about Asian people and it is not really offensive, but if either told the same jokes about the others group - to the same audience they would be knee deep in shit.

A lot of jokes allow for the impossible, or are based on people making extremely unlikely judgements.

Do you just get the Drinking ones over there or do you also get the Catholic ones too?

Mostly drinking or fighting. And there is the occasional bomber one. I don't remember most of them because most of them are pretty strained.

ANd there is still a difference. Most stereotype jokes rely on the stereotype for the joke.

I'll show you.

First two jokes of the thread.

1.Eric and Mary are working at the local sawmill.

One day Eric slips and his arm gets caught and severed by the big bench saw.

Mary quickly puts the limb in a plastic bag and rushes it and Eric to the local hospital.

Next day, Mary goes to the hospital and asks after Eric.

The nurse says, 'Oh he's out in Rehab exercising'.

Mary couldn't believe it, but here's Eric out the back exercising his now reattached arm.
The very next day he's back at work in the saw mill.

Couple of days go by, and then Eric slips and severs his leg on another bloody big saw thing.
So Mary puts the limb in a plastic bag and rushes it and Eric off to hospital again.

Next day he calls in to see him and asks the nurse how he is.

The nurse replies, 'He's out in the Rehab again exercising'. And sure
enough, here's Eric out there doing some serious work on the treadmill.

Mary cannot believe what he is seeing and Eric comes back to work again the very next day.

But, as usual, within a couple of days he has another accident and severs his head. Wearily Mary puts the head in a plastic bag and transports it and Eric to hospital yet again.

Next day he goes in and asks the nurse how Eric is.

The nurse breaks down and cries and says, 'He's dead'

Mary is shocked, but not surprised. 'I suppose the saw finally did him in'

'No,' says the nurse,

Some dopey b*stard put his head in a plastic bag and he suffocated

Same joke, same punchline, still makes sense and still funny. Making it "about" Irishmen doesn't really do anything for the joke.

Now, let's look at the second joke.

2. How do you stop 2 kids jumping on your bed?

Stick velcro to the ceiling.

In the second joke you must buy in to the stereotype or it doesn't work.

Hell, try switching it to another group -

2. How do you stop 2 white kids jumping on your bed?

Stick velcro to the ceiling.

You look at the joke and go "What the hell was that? Doesn't even make sense."

Stereotype jokes RELY on the stereotypes in order to be funny.

And the teller - Chris Rock can for example tell jokes about Black people and it is not (very) offensive, Margert Cho can tell jokes about Asian people and it is not really offensive, but if either told the same jokes about the others group - to the same audience they would be knee deep in shit.

No. That's hypocrisy, and serves to instill a sense of inherent superiority due to race alone.

My contention was intelligent. Yours was every inch as moronic as that which I excoriated earlier, and every inch as demonstrative of the extent to which political correctness has imposed itself upon the arts as a form of discriminative censorship.

And the teller - Chris Rock can for example tell jokes about Black people and it is not (very) offensive, Margert Cho can tell jokes about Asian people and it is not really offensive, but if either told the same jokes about the others group - to the same audience they would be knee deep in shit.

Then what about comedians like Lisa Lampinelli and whats his face? The Mencia guy.

Of course neither are all that funny but they make a living off of putting down people of all races (that's their whole act). Lisa Lampinelli tells the most hardcore racist jokes I've ever heard but noone even pays attention to her.

My theory is that I think most people can tell the difference between a joke told for shock value and one told out of utter racism.

No. That's hypocrisy, and serves to instill a sense of inherent superiority due to race alone.

My contention was intelligent. Yours was every inch as moronic as that which I excoriated earlier, and every inch as demonstrative of the extent to which political correctness has imposed itself upon the arts as a form of discriminative censorship.

I can make jokes about my mother. Can you? Not without looking like an ass. Joking around with a group you're a part of is intimate. It's expected. However, if you were joking around with your friends and someone from outside your group came and made the same jokes, your group would feel attacked and rightfully so.

Then what about comedians like Lisa Lampinelli and whats his face? The Mencia guy.

Of course neither are all that funny but they make a living off of putting down people of all races (that's their whole act). Lisa Lampinelli tells the most hardcore racist jokes I've ever heard but noone even pays attention to her.

My theory is that I think most people can tell the difference between a joke told for shock value and one told out of utter racism.

Yes, that too. Although, I don't think much of either kind.

No. That's hypocrisy, and serves to instill a sense of inherent superiority due to race alone.

My contention was intelligent. Yours was every inch as moronic as that which I excoriated earlier, and every inch as demonstrative of the extent to which political correctness has imposed itself upon the arts as a form of discriminative censorship.

Chris, the use of "look at me, I'm smarter than you" words is neither big nor clever, it's just twattish.

Chris, the use of "look at me, I'm smarter than you" words is neither big nor clever, it's just twattish.

Especially when their use is so tortured. A good writer uses the simplest word that will get the word across accurately. Anything else just comes across as an attempt to obscure meaning.

And another show of how stereotype jokes must rely on the stereotype.

Your momma so fat she farts twinkies.

Versus

Your momma is so tall she farts twinkies.

Versus

Your momma is so hispanic she farts twinkies.

See how none of those make sense except for the one playing on the stereotype that fat people eat twinkies.

Chris, the use of "look at me, I'm smarter than you" words is neither big nor clever, it's just twattish.

You try reading history books all day and not having some effect left on you.

You try reading history books all day and not having some effect left on you.

Reading history does not turn one into a dick. That has to come naturally.

You try reading history books all day and not having some effect left on you.

I read books all day long and have my entire life. I love reading like I love breathing. I still don't torture sentences by forcing unnecessary words in where they don't belong and if the books you're reading do, then pick up some new ones with good authors.

No. That's hypocrisy, and serves to instill a sense of inherent superiority due to race alone.

My contention was intelligent. Yours was every inch as moronic as that which I excoriated earlier, and every inch as demonstrative of the extent to which political correctness has imposed itself upon the arts as a form of discriminative censorship.

Ok - people poking fun at themselves is very different than poking fun at other people. People poking fun at their own group is very different to people poking fun at other peoples groups.

People can for example poke fun at their own mother, but try saying the same thing about someones mother to the same person and you can expect a somewhat frosty response.
EDIT: I seem to be channeling Jocabia.


It has nothing to do with superiority, or promoting or instilling sueriority - it does not even have to be about race - I know jewish people who joke about being stingy with cash - it is not realy offensive to them or to jewish people when they do that, it is a bit different when non-jews do it. People do it about nationalities all the time, their family, their sports team even. when it is about themselves it is clear it bears no malice and also that they are going on their own life experience as a member of the group being joked about - which cannot be said when the person telling the joke is from a different group.

It can be done, but it is not easy - Borat for example managed it fairly well, but a large part of the joke was that the joke was actually on the person being interviewed being exposed as a totally rascist/homophobic/sexist/etc/etc git rather than the actual jokes being funny themselves.

Yes, that too. Although, I don't think much of either kind.

I like jokes that make fun of racism or racist jokes. One guy was saying that he judges people by the color of their teeth. He's toothist.

Another was joking that he had a boss explaining that he doesn't see race and could care less if a guy is black, white, or purple. The comedian said "Really? You don't care if a guy is purple? If I had a white, black and purple guy all tryign to get a job from me, I am definitely not pickign the purple guy. Besides, we all know purple people are lazy."

:D

Although I do laugh at racist jokes for the shock value.. like the one earlier about What's black, has 8 legs and makes little girls scream? Also I told my mexican coworker the joke about Why the Mexican Olympic team has no good athletes and we all laughed because of the sillyness of the stereotype.

You try reading history books all day and not having some effect left on you.

I'm in third year of a degree in Modern History; I've read enough history books. I, however, have never had the inclination to speak as you were.

Although, after spending a day a while ago reading over Commons debates from 1917/1918, I was feeling in the mood for early 20thC style of speech. It's much more elegant and respectful than modern discourse, and the politicians of the time had hilarious facial hair, which makes it all the better.

I can make jokes about my mother. Can you? Not without looking like an ass. Joking around with a group you're a part of is intimate. It's expected. However, if you were joking around with your friends and someone from outside your group came and made the same jokes, your group would feel attacked and rightfully so.

Please note, I really have had to try hard not to make "your mum" somewhere in this. I hope you're happy.

The above is a different issue entirely. Does Chris Rock, woeful though he may be, have any better knowledge of a black member of his audiance than any other comedian who may stand upon the same stage? Of course not, nor does his being black permit him, above others, to play upon the same stereotypes.

Reading history does not turn one into a dick. That has to come naturally.

You put that better than I did.

I'm in third year of a degree in Modern History; I've read enough history books. I, however, have never had the inclination to speak as you were.

Although, after spending a day a while ago reading over Commons debates from 1917/1918, I was feeling in the mood for early 20thC style of speech. It's much more elegant and respectful than modern discourse, and the politicians of the time had hilarious facial hair, which makes it all the better.

Thank you, more elegant. In any case, we're encouraged to use more uncommom diction at school.

Especially when their use is so tortured. A good writer uses the simplest word that will get the word across accurately. Anything else just comes across as an attempt to obscure meaning.

Exactly; if you're going to use big words, at least make sure they work well in the sentence. A good sentence is about it's ebb and flow, not about how many syllable-rich words you can fit in.

I know of a joke which isn't, in itself, funny. What makes it funny is the comical ridiculous amount of bigotry in it.

Exactly; if you're going to use big words, at least make sure they work well in the sentence. A good sentence is about it's ebb and flow, not about how many syllable-rich words you can fit in.

This isn't sodding poetry.

This isn't sodding poetry.

You're the one trying his hardest to impress us.

I'm also quite pleased to have annoyed you successfully; I don't like pretentious pricks, even if they do listen to some decent bands

This isn't sodding poetry.

No, but it's a written discussion, and as such, clarity and concision are more important than verbosity.

(he said using too many useless big words.)

You're the one trying his hardest to impress us.

No, I'm employing the same vocabulary I do in essays, there's a difference.

Please note, I really have had to try hard not to make "your mum" somewhere in this. I hope you're happy.

The above is a different issue entirely. Does Chris Rock, woeful though he may be, have any better knowledge of a black member of his audiance than any other comedian who may stand upon the same stage? Of course not, nor does his being black permit him, above others, to play upon the same stereotypes.

His jokes are not about a Black person but about being Black and various things Black people have to face that are not so typical of what other groups have to face - things that many of the Black people in the audience will have faced themselves. Hence he is a bit more able to joke about those topics than someone with zero experience of being Black.

No, I'm employing the same vocabulary I do in essays, there's a difference.

When you go on about how intelligent you are at the same time it looks more like you are trying to impress.

His jokes are not about a Black person but about being Black and various things Black people have to face that are not so typical of what other groups have to face - things that many of the Black people in the audience will have faced themselves. Hence he is a bit more able to joke about those topics than someone with zero experience of being Black.

Once more, an entirely different issue. Knowledge does allow one to make observations, however, simply being of a certain race does not, which you originally contended.

No, I'm employing the same vocabulary I do in essays, there's a difference.

You use "sodding" in your essays?

His jokes are not about a Black person but about being Black and various things Black people have to face that are not so typical of what other groups have to face - things that many of the Black people in the audience will have faced themselves. Hence he is a bit more able to joke about those topics than someone with zero experience of being Black.

QFT.

Since Chris Rock is black, a black audience will know that he understands them and their culture, because he comes from the same place. Because of this, they know that his jokes are not mean-spirited, and come from mutual understanding, whereas any other race poking fun at them would come across as an outsider's criticism.

And anyway, what makes you (chris) think that only people of the same race tell race jokes? Lots of comics tell jokes about other races, including white comics. More often than not, it's accepted, as long as the comic doesn't go Michael Richards on the audience.

When you go on about how intelligent you are at the same time it looks more like you are trying to impress.

I had no impression I was, nor did I say as much explicitly.

Did I suggest a contention was intelligent? Yes. The two, moron, are not the same.

You use "sodding" in your essays?

Only in general studies.:D

Although, if Steven Fry gets critical acclaim for his use of "wank" in sentences to provide emphasis, I fail to see why I shouldn't.

No, but it's a written discussion, and as such, clarity and concision are more important than verbosity.

(he said using too many useless big words.)

How? How is that anything more than functional, plain, tedious English?

How? How is that anything more than functional, plain, tedious English?

Easy. It's the language of someone with nothing to say trying to use newly-learned vocabulary to make himself look better, but instead coming across as greatly insecure. Big words are easy to throw in, but difficult to use well, as you've certainly shown.

Calling those you disagree with "morons" does nothing but further prove that you're incapable of reasoned, civil debate.

Does that answer your questions?

Once more, an entirely different issue. Knowledge does allow one to make observations, however, simply being of a certain race does not, which you originally contended.

That is because you started on a different tack of claiming he does not know more about particular people in the audience so he has no further right to joke at their expense than someone of another race. To which I responded that he is not poking fun at a person but at parts of an identity that the audience share, an that he shares with the group he is poking fun at.

That is because you started on a different tack of claiming he does not know more about particular people in the audience so he has no further right to joke at their expense than someone of another race. To which I responded that he is not poking fun at a person but at parts of an identity that the audience share, an that he shares with the group he is poking fun at.

Actually, I didn't. You responded, or, as it were, misresponded, to a post of mine.

Incidentally, try getting the right end of the stick for once. I accept that one's being more knowledgeable allows for better humour, however, I do not accept that one's being of a certain race allows one, as opposed to others, to make jokes.

Only in general studies.:D

Although, if Steven Fry gets critical acclaim for his use of "wank" in sentences to provide emphasis, I fail to see why I shouldn't.

Anybody who comes that close to comparing themselves with the great Stephen Fry deserves a slap :p

Easy. It's the language of someone with nothing to say trying to use newly-learned vocabulary to make himself look better, but instead coming across as greatly insecure. Big words are easy to throw in, but difficult to use well, as you've certainly shown.

Calling those you disagree with "morons" does nothing but further prove that you're incapable of reasoned, civil debate.

Does that answer your questions?

I was, as I would have though evident, referring to your post.:rolleyes:

Anybody who comes that close to comparing themselves with the great Stephen Fry deserves a slap :p

I genuinely didn't intend to. I was simply pointing out that he gets away with swearing regularly in his books.

On that track, if you haven't read "The Hippopotamus", I strongly suggest you do. It's hilarious.

I had no impression I was, nor did I say as much explicitly.

Did I suggest a contention was intelligent? Yes. The two, moron, are not the same.

You said you comment was intelligent. This would imply pretty strongly that you feel that you are intelligent.

Another alternative would be that you feel you are analogous to a million monkeys typing at a million keyboards and every so often something intelligent randomly pops out, hence intelligent posts by you are the product of chance rather than the actual workings of your brain.

That said - seeing as everyone here apart from yourself seems to get this I am beginning to suspect the monkey option might have some merit .

And really - unprovoked insults?

I was, as I would have though evident, referring to your post.:rolleyes:

Why, thank you, Captain Obvious. Would you like another medal for your fancy jacket?

My post was very much an imitation of yours (although I did use the big words in a much less pretentious way, I admit). Hence, I was refering to your use of unnecessary vocabulary. Take a page from Strunk and White: Never use a large word when a small will do. The result is always pretentious and overcompensating. Like when the dumb guy at work starts throwing words like "somnambulance" or "simulacrum" around, discreetly hiding his word-a-day calendar behind his back.

Okay you guys, get over Chris' word use. Slam him for unprovoked flames sure, but really I think we shoudl be telling jokes at the expense of others.

Just tell a joke about Chris and be done with it. My fellow white cracker will have a larf and we can get this thread back on track.

Thesaurus-speak is always a bit weird...*snip*

Henceforth, I shall fully support the 'million monkey' theory of TBC.

Okay you guys, get over Chris' word use. Slam him for unprovoked flames sure, but really I think we shoudl be telling jokes at the expense of others.

Just tell a joke about Chris and be done with it. My fellow white cracker will have a larf and we can get this thread back on track.

I don't know, I kind of thought this was telling jokes at others' expense. Well, having fun at another's expense, anyway, if not jokes as such. I'm smiling, at least, and that's sort of the point. :)

You said you comment was intelligent. This would imply pretty strongly that you feel that you are intelligent.

Another alternative would be that you feel you are analogous to a million monkeys typing at a million keyboards and every so often something intelligent randomly pops out, hence intelligent posts by you are the product of chance rather than the actual workings of your brain.

That said - seeing as everyone here apart from yourself seems to get this I am beginning to suspect the monkey option might have some merit .

And really - unprovoked insults?

The "seems to get this" part is a tad odd. Seems to get what? The vocabulary part? Or something else?

Secondly, as it happens, I do believe myself intelligent. My exam results and university offers confirm as much. However, a contention's being intelligent, as you so simply explained, does not render the origin intelligent automatically.

Lastly, moron isn't an insult unless you consider yourself intelligent, which would border on delusional I fear.

"Bably performed abortion" is an insult, "moron" in an observation.

Just tell a joke about Chris and be done with it. My fellow white cracker will have a larf and we can get this thread back on track.

Shamus and Patrick are two Irishmen working at the local sawmill.

One day Shamus slips and his arm gets caught and severed by the big bench saw.

Patrick quickly puts the limb in a plastic bag and rushes it and Shamus to the local hospital.

Next day, Patrick goes to the hospital and asks after Shamus.

The nurse, Chris, says, 'Oh he's out in Rehab exercising'.

Patrick couldn't believe it, but here's Shamus out the back exercising his now reattached arm.
The very next day he's back at work in the saw mill.

Couple of days go by, and then Shamus slips and severs his leg on another bloody big saw thing.
So Patrick puts the limb in a plastic bag and rushes it and Shamus off to hospital again.

Next day he calls in to see him and asks the nurse how he is.

Chris the nurse replies, 'He's out in the Rehab again exercising'. And sure
enough, here's Shamus out there doing some serious work on the treadmill.

Patrick cannot believe what he is seeing and Shamus comes back to work again the very next day.

But, as usual, within a couple of days he has another accident and severs his head.
Wearily Patrick puts the head in a plastic bag and transports it and Shamus to hospital yet again.

Next day he goes in and asks the Chris how Shamus is.

Chris breaks down and cries and says, 'He's dead'

Patrick is shocked, but not surprised. 'I suppose the saw finally did him in'

'No,' says Chris

Some dopey b*stard put his head in a plastic bag and he suffocated

I'm too lazy to think up anything more original so did what my English ancestors did and ripped off someone elses ideas.

I'm too lazy to think up anything more original so did what my English ancestors did and ripped off someone elses ideas.

But did you then steal his country with a cunning use of flags?

So, a trucker was driving a load of bowling balls up north to canada, on a dark and rainy night.

He sees a black guy on the side of the road hitchhiking and pulls over. The guy says he's trying to get up to canada, and can he please have a ride on account of the rain.

The trucker says yeah, sure, but there's no room in the cab, so get in the back with the bowling balls. The black guy thanks him and gets in, the trucker takes off.

A few miles up the road, he sees another black guy hitchhiking, this one with a bike with flat tires. "Need a ride?" he asks, "I'm going up to canda."

The black guy says yes please, and the trucker points out there's no room up front, but he can get in the back with the other guy, the guy gets in, and they take off.

The trucker gets up to the border and a mountie comes out to inspect his cargo. The mountie goes around to the back, slides open the cargo container, goes white in the face and slams it.

"Turn this truck around right now, and doont come back!" says the mountie, and cuts the trucker off before he can say anything, "NOW!"

The trucker turns around, and the mountie's partner comes out and asks "Lordie, what was that aboot there?"

The first mountie looks up, clearly distressed "that soon of a bitch was smuggling ni**er eggs! two had already hatched, and one had already stoolen a bike!"




Dumbass racist canadians!

The version of this one I heard was Mexican eggs crossing into Texas and the driver was stopped by a Ranger.

Why, thank you, Captain Obvious. Would you like another medal for your fancy jacket?

My post was very much an imitation of yours (although I did use the big words in a much less pretentious way, I admit). Hence, I was refering to your use of unnecessary vocabulary. Take a page from Strunk and White: Never use a large word when a small will do. The result is always pretentious and overcompensating. Like when the dumb guy at work starts throwing words like "somnambulance" or "simulacrum" around, discreetly hiding his word-a-day calendar behind his back.

Quick point, whyever should I temper my vocabulary to the needs of the stupid? Simplicity isn't necessarily optimal if it precludes precision or full meaning. Excoriate has a specific meaning, which, to my dictionary, renders its use correct, if, I concede, a little unseemly. I was simply saving myself the effort of writing more words.

Ironic really?:D

Quick point, whyever should I temper my vocabulary to the needs of the stupid? Simplicity isn't necessarily optimal if it precludes precision or full meaning. Excoriate has a specific meaning, which, to my dictionary, renders its use correct, if, I concede, a little unseemly. I was simply saving myself the effort of writing more words.

Ironic really?:D

*pokes a monkey*

I maintain I'm correct, and you're writing style is boring.

....I think you missed a comma :/. Something like, "...and you're writing, style is boring." is what you meant, surely?

I don't know, I kind of thought this was telling jokes at others' expense. Well, having fun at another's expense, anyway, if not jokes as such. I'm smiling, at least, and that's sort of the point. :)

I maintain I'm correct, and you're writing style is boring.

The "seems to get this" part is a tad odd. Seems to get what? The vocabulary part? Or something else?
Everyone else here seems to get why it is different to poke fun at your own group - except you...


Secondly, as it happens, I do believe myself intelligent. My exam results and university offers confirm as much. However, a contention's being intelligent, as you so simply explained, does not render the origin intelligent automatically.

Simply explained?


Lastly, moron isn't an insult unless you consider yourself intelligent, which would border on delusional I fear.
And - petty insults. Unprovoked petty insults.

Did you get out of bed the wrong side this morning? If so is your bed against a window over a blackberry bush? Which would really help explain why you're being so crabby. Fish that thorny blackberry stick from out of your ass and your mood might improve.

Incidentally, for those who haven't seen this (http://www.sickipedia.org/index.php?title=Main_Page), it's the best source of jokes I've yet to find.

Everyone else here seems to get why it is different to poke fun at your own group - except you...


Simply explained?


And - petty insults. Unprovoked petty insults.

Did you get out of bed the wrong side this morning? If so is your bed against a window over a blackberry bush? Which would really help explain why you're being so crabby. Fish that thorny blackberry stick from out of your ass and your mood might improve.

You appear to be missing the point.

Does this help;

Would a white guy, having been adopted/fostered by an ethnic family, be permitted to make jokes regarding the ethnic group amongst which he was raised.

....I think you missed a comma :/. Something like, "...and you're writing, style is boring." is what you meant, surely?

You're life must be boring if you eschew style.

Quick point, whyever should I temper my vocabulary to the needs of the stupid? Simplicity isn't necessarily optimal if it precludes precision or full meaning. Excoriate has a specific meaning, which, to my dictionary, renders its use correct, if, I concede, a little unseemly. I was simply saving myself the effort of writing more words.

Ironic really?:D

Yep, because using unnecessarily large words proves intelligence. Not the fact that you haven't actually made a decent point. It's not what you say, it's the vocabulary you use in saying it, huh? Interesting.

Guess what, I have a very extensive vocabulary. Literature--reading and writing it--is my thing, as are philosophy and history, so therefore words are my thing. However, I don't feel the need to litter my posts with verbiage to try to prove to others that I know these words. If I can say what I need to say without trying to show off, I do that, because I have nothing to prove. You do, it seems. Nothing proves it more than your need to attack others, and baselessly I might add.

Trust me, if any decent professor read one of your posts, let alone an entire paper with such a tone, they would tear it to shreds and tell you to grow up and put away the Roget's. Not to mention take a chill pill and stop with the flaming.

So my point is, stop saying you're intelligent, and actually say something intelligent (Note that pretension does not equal intelligence). Think you can do that, or can you only insult? And hell, if grades and tests are the only measure, I must be a genius; I've never gotten a B on anything (and certainly nothing lower).

And also, are you familiar with the contraction "you're"? Because "your" is possessive.

You're life must be boring if you eschew style.

*pokes another monkey* Fine, be all serious-like then. While you're at it, tell the 3rd monkey division to go back and change 'you're' to 'your'


Also, the word 'eschew' always makes me hungry. Tell a couple of 'em to fetch me some cashews,

Also, the word 'eschew' always makes me hungry. Tell a couple of 'em to fetch me some cashews,

You would eat nuts handled by monkeys? Don't you know what monkeys usually do with their nuts?

You appear to be missing the point.

Does this help;

Would a white guy, having been adopted/fostered by an ethnic family, be permitted to make jokes regarding the ethnic group amongst which he was raised.

1. How would the audience know the guy had that background?

2. How would all the cops who regulary pulled him over when driving an expensive car have known he was raised by a black family just by looking at him?


Now - anyone can make jokes about other ethnic groups, but it comes across a bit differently when the audience does not identify with you so well. You CAN do it, and it CAN work, but it will be unlikely to work in the same way - particulary as you are almost certinally talking about experiences you have not actually experienced. The person telling a joke at stand-up is integral to the joke, they are part of it - who they are, their personality, the delivery and how the crowd identify with them and the mood in the room at the time. I have seen the same stand-up tell the same joke on two different nights - the first night he made an initial good impression of the crowd and the joke went down amazingly, the second time he got caught by a couple of hecklers who he handled badly earlier on and by the time he got to telling it the joke went down like a diarroreah in a spacesuit - just because the crowd was not with him. Now - race/gender/religion/etc membership is not identical to this situation - I am illistrating why the teller is as important if not more important than the joke itself - and why the identity of the teller is very important to a joke too.

You would eat nuts handled by monkeys? Don't you know what monkeys usually do with their nuts?

...good point...

I guess I'll just throw the nuts at something.

I'm an equal opportunity joker. Not only do I make fun of others, I also have a strong interest in self-deprecating humor.

*pokes another monkey* Fine, be all serious-like then. While you're at it, tell the 3rd monkey division to go back and change 'you're' to 'your'


Also, the word 'eschew' always makes me hungry. Tell a couple of 'em to fetch me some cashews,

I should patent that monkey thing.

Or sig it.

There are plenty of possibly offensive woman driver jokes, like how some women have a score card instead of a rearview mirror. Here is a blonde joke instead:

What do you call a woman that is really stupid and has brown hair? A blonde in a wig.

Here's one that may be offensive to some on this forum, for various reasons:

How many Marxists does it take to change a lightbulb?

None. Every bulb has within it the seeds of its own revolution.


Yeah, okay, so it's not offensive unless you're very sensitive about your economic/political theory, but I thought it was fairly clever. Plus, the first time I heard the joke I'd just gotten finished with a very long, semi-Marxist analysis of an Arthur Conan Doyle story, so it stuck with me. figure maybe the libertarians and the commies on the forum could fight over it a bit. :)

This girl I have a thing for text me earlier that she was throwing a party later. So after all day of "can't wait to see you there." and "it's going to be fun", it turned out to be one of her guy friends fucking with me.

Essentially I told him that I would find out where he lives: kill his family and then burn the house down. I wasn't in a good mood to say the least.

Please note, I really have had to try hard not to make "your mum" somewhere in this. I hope you're happy.

The above is a different issue entirely. Does Chris Rock, woeful though he may be, have any better knowledge of a black member of his audiance than any other comedian who may stand upon the same stage? Of course not, nor does his being black permit him, above others, to play upon the same stereotypes.

No, he doesn't know any individual better than you do, but he does know what it's like to be a member of the group better than you. His jokes are relating to being a member of the group. It's not very complicated.

This girl I have a thing for text me earlier that she was throwing a party later. So after all day of "can't wait to see you there." and "it's going to be fun", it turned out to be one of her guy friends fucking with me.

Essentially I told him that I would find out where he lives: kill his family and then burn the house down. I wasn't in a good mood to say the least.

I friend of mine lived in a fourth floor dorm room.

One night he (actually all of us) got really drunk. But him moreso than the rest - he passed out really early on in the evening.

He was still passed out in the morning, and we snuck in and opened the windows wide open, put hoodies on and borrowed some stockings for masks and stormed into the room making a lot of noise grabbing his vaglely coinscious self while yelling about "Nobody messes with THIS Crew" and the like and "Time to fly" before throwing his now screaming ass out what he thought was a fourth floor window. But was actually the ground floor dorm room we had our late night drinks in.

I'm so going to hell.

In fairness he got his own back. Piss tastes a lot like beer at 4am after a solid night drinking.

No, I'm employing the same vocabulary I do in essays, there's a difference.

Then your essays suck. When I worked as an editor I would have cut that sentence write out as a waste of space. There are only two reasons to use a larger word in lieu of a small one.

One, if it is the only word that offers the proper clarity. Two, if there is some type of linguistic tool you're employing. Your sentence did neither simply choosing larger words instead of smaller ones because you think that's what will make people think more of your writing. And, yes, that's exactly how it comes across in essays. It's like the guy driving the 200,000 car. It's clear he's hiding something.

Most jokes are fairly lame, and a lot of jokes rely on the ridicule of one or more people, often by a particular identifier (rednecks, men, women, one ethnicity or another, etc.)

For the longest time, man has laughed at this sort of thing.

Now it seems that some people think this is offensive. Well, I guess we're not allowed to joke anymore at anyone else's expense. Or perhaps, at some groups and not at others. Apparently, you can make a career out of laughing at rednecks, but you can't joke about African-Americans unless you are one (and maybe not even then).

Let's take turns submitting jokes that laugh at the expense of others - and then comment on whether or not you think the jokes previously presented are offensive or not.

I'll start:

Shamus and Patrick are two Irishmen working at the local sawmill.

One day Shamus slips and his arm gets caught and severed by the big bench saw.

Patrick quickly puts the limb in a plastic bag and rushes it and Shamus to the local hospital.

Next day, Patrick goes to the hospital and asks after Shamus.

The nurse says, 'Oh he's out in Rehab exercising'.

Patrick couldn't believe it, but here's Shamus out the back exercising his now reattached arm.
The very next day he's back at work in the saw mill.

Couple of days go by, and then Shamus slips and severs his leg on another bloody big saw thing.
So Patrick puts the limb in a plastic bag and rushes it and Shamus off to hospital again.

Next day he calls in to see him and asks the nurse how he is.

The nurse replies, 'He's out in the Rehab again exercising'. And sure
enough, here's Shamus out there doing some serious work on the treadmill.

Patrick cannot believe what he is seeing and Shamus comes back to work again the very next day.

But, as usual, within a couple of days he has another accident and severs his head.
Wearily Patrick puts the head in a plastic bag and transports it and Shamus to hospital yet again.

Next day he goes in and asks the nurse how Shamus is.

The nurse breaks down and cries and says, 'He's dead'

Patrick is shocked, but not surprised. 'I suppose the saw finally did him in'

'No,' says the nurse,

Some dopey b*stard put his head in a plastic bag and he suffocated

I don't get that joke. And it's spelled Seamus.

How many lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb?
How many what? That's slander. I'll see you in court!

According to hippy liberals, how many George W. Bushes does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
One, but he ruthlessly invades a closet, illegally removes the light bulb, resulting in civil war, and murders baby air molecules with his imperialistic lungs. Liberals everywhere shouted with joy as he pulled out of the closet he invaded for oil and power.

A couple of points:
Firstly,
the use of racial/sexual/whateverial stereotyping in jokes is important. Usually these stereotypes are in place because there is a historical knowledge within one part of society, (be it right or wrong, correct or incorrect) of the racial stereotype under examination.
For instance;
Q. How do you get 100 Ethiopians into a telephone box?

A. Throw in a can of beans,

Q2. How do you get 100 Ethiopians out of a telephone box?

A2. Run past with the can-opener.

Whether you approve or not of this/these jokes or find them funny is only relevant to your enjoyment of the actual joke. The reason some people find them funny is because they remind them of the potential inferiority of that race with regards to what they would like to see themselves as.
If we regarded ourselves as being as hungry as a famine struck Ethiopian, we would not find that funny, we would start salivating at the thought of beans.
If a person takes offence at a stereotyping of their chosen group of allegiance. Pretty much 100% of the time, that shows personal insecurity about that subject.
I am Scots. We are tight fisted, ginger, alcoholic, violent, illiterate, tribesmen who invented everything. Any joke on those subjects and many more can be funny.
However (personally) if someone made a joke about a subject such as Piper Alpha, it would take me longer to find that funny as it has a direct bearing on me personally. However someone else is at perfect liberty to roll about the floor laughing if they want!

On the subject of the use of dilated designations in sentences where little words are said to be better:
It seems to me that the antagonists of the wordy lot are mainly suffering from the fact they don't like the use of words they fall short of understanding without thought and application.
The English (or American for all the cultural imperialists out there ;) ) language is a beautiful thing. Full of literally dozens of different words. These words are amazing and the words have different meanings for subtly different words.
There can be a problem when you use really short words when really other words should be used because the sentence gets really worded up and starts to get really boring and moronic.
Whereas, if each designation is correctly thought out and the intonation for each word is impressed upon the reader in a fashion pre-determined to render the understanding of both the use of the word and the reason for using that particular word. The english language is a much richer experience for all concerned.
You just gotta, like, make sure that you, like, use the, like, right words in the right, like, places y'know? Otherwise you'll sound like Vicky Pollard crossed with Something out of the OC. And in that case the only cure... :sniper:

Then your essays suck. When I worked as an editor I would have cut that sentence write out as a waste of space. There are only two reasons to use a larger word in lieu of a small one.
.

An editor aye? And you cannot use the correct version of Right and Write?
Hmmm
You didn't work for Rebekkah Wade did you? ;)

How many lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb?
How many what? That's slander. I'll see you in court!

According to hippy liberals, how many George W. Bushes does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
One, but he ruthlessly invades a closet, illegally removes the light bulb, resulting in civil war, and murders baby air molecules with his imperialistic lungs. Liberals everywhere shouted with joy as he pulled out of the closet he invaded for oil and power.

Given that conservatives probably don't know what light bulbs are, I don't really find that joke particularly offensive. Hyuk.

How many lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb?
How many what? That's slander. I'll see you in court!

According to hippy liberals, how many George W. Bushes does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
One, but he ruthlessly invades a closet, illegally removes the light bulb, resulting in civil war, and murders baby air molecules with his imperialistic lungs. Liberals everywhere shouted with joy as he pulled out of the closet he invaded for oil and power.

Baby air molecules are b**tar*s anyway. Kill them, kill them all I say!

Given that conservatives probably don't know what light bulbs are, I don't really find that joke particularly offensive. Hyuk.

It was mostly about how hippy liberals talk about how Bush is so oppressive and evil. I'd be surprised if they ever stop talking about how he magically rigged both elections. He won. He'll be out in mid-January 2009 when the new president gets sworn in. Iraq, and the middle east as a whole, was fucked up way before America even existed. All Sadaam did was force a peace through fear and murder. The hippies should get over it.

An editor aye? And you cannot use the correct version of Right and Write?
Hmmm
You didn't work for Rebekkah Wade did you? ;)

Everyone needs an editor for their writing. Even me. I have particular techniquest that work with text I've never read before, but not with my own because I have too good of a memory.

Homophones are a big problem for me in my own writing. Fortunately, I recognize the benefits of having an editor. Contrary to what some believe, editors are generally no more anal than most writers with a love of the language. Editors are simply a second set of eyes and people who have perfected the techniques.

Thanks for the post. Meaningful and reasoned. Absolutely worth the space it took up.

to Whatmark, Jocabia, Nadkor, Sxh, etc...

Why even waste the time typing responses to 'the BS'.

From his first post in this thread he's been agressive and a little bit presumptuous. So why waste your time, just ignore.

Here's a little joke which tickled my fancy.

An English doctor is being shown around a Scottish hospital. At the end of his visit, he is shown into a ward with a number of patients who show no obvious signs of injury. He goes to examine the first patient he sees, and the man proclaims:

"Fair fa' yer honest, sonsie face,
Great chieftain o' the puddin' race!"

The English doctor, somewhat taken aback, goes to the next patient, and immediately the patient launches into:

"Some hae meat and canna eat,
And some wad eat that want it."

This continues with the next patient:

"Wee sleekit cow'rin tim'rous beastie,
O what a panic's in thy breastie!"

"Well," the English doctor mutters to his Scottish colleague, "I see you saved the psychiatric ward for the last."

"Oh no," the Scottish doctor corrected him, "this is the serious Burns unit."


Well I liked it.
And hi to Jocabia ;)

Here's a little joke which tickled my fancy.

An English doctor is being shown around a Scottish hospital. At the end of his visit, he is shown into a ward with a number of patients who show no obvious signs of injury. He goes to examine the first patient he sees, and the man proclaims:

"Fair fa' yer honest, sonsie face,
Great chieftain o' the puddin' race!"

The English doctor, somewhat taken aback, goes to the next patient, and immediately the patient launches into:

"Some hae meat and canna eat,
And some wad eat that want it."

This continues with the next patient:

"Wee sleekit cow'rin tim'rous beastie,
O what a panic's in thy breastie!"

"Well," the English doctor mutters to his Scottish colleague, "I see you saved the psychiatric ward for the last."

"Oh no," the Scottish doctor corrected him, "this is the serious Burns unit."


Well I liked it.
And hi to Jocabia ;)


Um, hello. Nice to be singled out, I suppose.

heard one today

Just heard on the radio that they've caught some Islamic soucers!

Bin Drinkin, Bin thievin and Bin Dealing.

Bin Workin is still unsighted!

Here's a little joke which tickled my fancy.

An English doctor is being shown around a Scottish hospital. At the end of his visit, he is shown into a ward with a number of patients who show no obvious signs of injury. He goes to examine the first patient he sees, and the man proclaims:

"Fair fa' yer honest, sonsie face,
Great chieftain o' the puddin' race!"

The English doctor, somewhat taken aback, goes to the next patient, and immediately the patient launches into:

"Some hae meat and canna eat,
And some wad eat that want it."

This continues with the next patient:

"Wee sleekit cow'rin tim'rous beastie,
O what a panic's in thy breastie!"

"Well," the English doctor mutters to his Scottish colleague, "I see you saved the psychiatric ward for the last."

"Oh no," the Scottish doctor corrected him, "this is the serious Burns unit."


Well I liked it.
And hi to Jocabia ;)

Heheheheh nice!

Ok, I have one:

What do Nikes and cops have in common?

They both make black people run faster.

"Oh no," the Scottish doctor corrected him, "this is the serious Burns unit."


*groooooooan* :p

Hilarious discussion on racist humour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lygCpysbybo)

I'd be surprised if they ever stop talking about how he magically rigged both elections. He won.Katherine Harris ring a bell? You might consider punching her up, what she's been up to in the last ... i dunno, 7 years.
The hippies should get over it.Kinda like conservatives should get over trying to turn the country back to 1950's conceptual, superficial values?

Katherine Harris ring a bell? You might consider punching her up, what she's been up to in the last ... i dunno, 7 years.
Kinda like conservatives should get over trying to turn the country back to 1950's conceptual, superficial values?

Oh, come on. I hate Bush with the best of them, but let's not get on this AGAIN. That ballot sucked. But it was a democratic county where they approved it and it was no different than ballots used a ton of other places. The corruption in FL is no worse than IL or any number of other states. Unless you have a crystal ball, you really can't say who would have won that election or really any election and continuing to harp about that 6 years later is really just sad.