NationStates Jolt Archive


Bush, how is he?

New new nebraska
09-04-2007, 22:20
As Stephen Colbert would say "Bush great president or greatest president?" So I'm asking you to rate him.
Fleckenstein
09-04-2007, 22:21
Guessing that 75%-80% of this forum would say Bush suxxorz.
Minaris
09-04-2007, 22:21
Dee Dee Dee


That's his rating. Either retarded or diabolically moronic.
Underdownia
09-04-2007, 22:22
Bush is the political personification of cancer. End of thread.
Rubiconic Crossings
09-04-2007, 22:22
Medium rare....
Underdownia
09-04-2007, 22:25
I would piss on him if he was on fire. But only if my urine was petrol.
Eurgrovia
09-04-2007, 22:26
Enjoy beating a dead horse?
Led Zeppelin Beefcakes
09-04-2007, 22:28
I put greatest ever, to offset all of the 'teh bush suxz0rs' "original" tards that will give him a one. He does what he thinks is best for us, always; and imagine what Kerry or even worse, Gore would be doing to us now, and after 9/11. *Cough* Even more taxes, I already pay dang 8.5% sales tax, because people around here love to elect democrats.
Rakipuland
09-04-2007, 22:41
You bushevik!
Eurgrovia
09-04-2007, 22:52
I put greatest ever, to offset all of the 'teh bush suxz0rs' "original" tards that will give him a one. He does what he thinks is best for us, always; and imagine what Kerry or even worse, Gore would be doing to us now, and after 9/11. *Cough* Even more taxes, I already pay dang 8.5% sales tax, because people around here love to elect democrats.
Like not being in Iraq and having better school systems/health care/alternative fuel sources? How absolutely horrible.
The Treacle Mine Road
09-04-2007, 22:53
I believe he's a bad president, but not as bad as hoover's handling of the wall street crash, or richard nixon paying off criminals and bugging the democrats offices.
CoallitionOfTheWilling
09-04-2007, 22:56
well since NSG forums are ultra-liberal, this poll is super-biased.
Eurgrovia
09-04-2007, 22:56
well since NSG forums are ultra-liberal, this poll is super-biased.
You don't have to be liberal to dislike a bad leader.
The Treacle Mine Road
09-04-2007, 22:57
well yes, but you'll get bias everywhere you ask.
Arinola
09-04-2007, 23:00
I put greatest ever, to offset all of the 'teh bush suxz0rs' "original" tards that will give him a one. He does what he thinks is best for us, always; and imagine what Kerry or even worse, Gore would be doing to us now, and after 9/11. *Cough* Even more taxes, I already pay dang 8.5% sales tax, because people around here love to elect democrats.

8.5? Oh noes! What a big dent in your disposable income.
Arinola
09-04-2007, 23:01
well since NSG forums are ultra-liberal, this poll is super-biased.

Us being liberal doesn't make Bush a very bad President.
Seangoli
10-04-2007, 03:57
8.5? Oh noes! What a big dent in your disposable income.

You know, it's funny. I see Republican partisans saying they love the Republican party because they want to lower taxes. However, the only way to offset lower income tax is increasing sales tax, really. Which means that about90% of the nation would be SCREWED beyond all belief, and 10% would be "lolzing" their ass off as they pay practically nothing.
[NS]Cerean
10-04-2007, 05:36
There has to be something that the corrupt fucktard has done right. Can't think of anything at the moment.
Eurgrovia
10-04-2007, 05:40
Cerean;12528921']There has to be something that the corrupt fucktard has done right. Can't think of anything at the moment.
Made the rich a little richer?
The_pantless_hero
10-04-2007, 05:52
Dee Dee Dee


That's his rating. Either retarded or diabolically moronic.
Second.
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Pepe Dominguez
10-04-2007, 05:57
You know, it's funny. I see Republican partisans saying they love the Republican party because they want to lower taxes. However, the only way to offset lower income tax is increasing sales tax, really. Which means that about90% of the nation would be SCREWED beyond all belief, and 10% would be "lolzing" their ass off as they pay practically nothing.

Or, the government can spend less. Not that that's likely, but it's not at all accurate to say that lowering income tax means sales tax must rise.
Infinite Revolution
10-04-2007, 06:01
ailing, i hope.
Congo--Kinshasa
10-04-2007, 06:20
Of the poll options, I'd say 2.
Seangoli
10-04-2007, 06:44
Or, the government can spend less. Not that that's likely, but it's not at all accurate to say that lowering income tax means sales tax must rise.

I was speaking in a more realistic sense. It is completely improbable that our government will cut funding a great deal, ever. Doesn't matter who is in control, they all spend like mad. Repubs and Dems alike.
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 07:54
Made the rich a little richer?Yes, yes my family might finally be able to add the hot tub in the basement to go with our home entertianment system, sauna, pool tabel, computer, fish tank, trophies, wine cellar, and a number of other things which are just down there.
Seangoli
10-04-2007, 08:17
Cerean;12528921']There has to be something that the corrupt fucktard has done right. Can't think of anything at the moment.

His policy towards immigration is about the only thing I can think of as actually being good. Hard-core Republicans and socio-conservatives can't seem to get it through their bloody head that deporting some 11 million illegal immigrants would have some serious impacts on our economy, and cripple it severely. The irony here is that he alienates his own support base with this policy, and supporting it with a Republican Congress was ballsy.

So basically, only the most liberal of his policies are actually decent. The rest are complete crap(Even from conservative standards, most are complete crap).
Seangoli
10-04-2007, 08:18
Yes, yes my family might finally be able to add the hot tub in the basement to go with our home entertianment system, sauna, pool tabel, computer, fish tank, trophies, wine cellar, and a number of other things which are just down there.

Liar.

I'm sure you meant to say "3rd hot tub".
Good Lifes
10-04-2007, 18:08
I was speaking in a more realistic sense. It is completely improbable that our government will cut funding a great deal, ever. Doesn't matter who is in control, they all spend like mad. Repubs and Dems alike.

The greatest spenders in the history of the US:

Bush 2

Bush 1

Reagan

Each had a 4 year term debt greater than the TOTAL debt of the nation at the time Carter left office. And what did we get out of it?

In the '40s we fought WW2, In the '50s we fought Korea and started the Interstate highway system. In the 60s we fought Vietnam, finished the Interstate, and went to the moon. In the 70's we returned to to moon several times.--------In 1980 Reagan was elected and the national debt doubled in 4 years and we........well we.......

What have we done in the '80s, '90s, and 00s? All that money went somewhere. What did we get out of the constant doubling of debt under "conservatives".
Andaluciae
10-04-2007, 18:10
He's got competition in the bad-range.

LBJ, Nixon, Harding, Grant and Buchanan are all terrible as well, probably equally as terrible.
Ilaer
10-04-2007, 18:25
I would piss on him if he was on fire. But only if my urine was petrol.

I don't know what I'll have to get rid of to fit it in, but I am definitely sigging this at some point.
Good Lifes
10-04-2007, 18:30
His policy towards immigration is about the only thing I can think of as actually being good. Hard-core Republicans and socio-conservatives can't seem to get it through their bloody head that deporting some 11 million illegal immigrants would have some serious impacts on our economy, and cripple it severely. The irony here is that he alienates his own support base with this policy, and supporting it with a Republican Congress was ballsy.

So basically, only the most liberal of his policies are actually decent. The rest are complete crap(Even from conservative standards, most are complete crap).

Those 11 million problems wouldn't exist if he did his job in the first place. They exist because big business wanted cheap labor. And the cost of labor like anything else is supply and demand. Increase the supply and the cost drops. By importing a massive supply business could drop wages. Thereby shrinking the middle and freezing the bottom in poverty. Thereby flowing the money to the top.

What job won't an American do? In 1980 a slaughter house job payed over $17/hr. Americans stood in line to get those jobs. They had pulled generations out of poverty and into the middle class. A person with an 8th grade education could send his children to college working in a slaughter house. In 2007 a slaughter house job pays around $9/hr. The job is done by illegals because Americans "won't take the job". Well, even if we don't consider the inflation over the last 25+years, if a slaughter house paid what it paid when Reagan took office, there would be no need to employ illegal workers. But by flooding the job market, supply and demand has made a slaughter house job one Americans won't take.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
10-04-2007, 18:41
Like not being in Iraq and having better school systems/health care/alternative fuel sources? How absolutely horrible.
We're talking about the powers of the President not the Most High Wizard. Any Democratic President would be just as beseiged as Clinton was.
Although, simply "not being in Iraq" would be pretty nice.
Utracia
10-04-2007, 18:43
I was speaking in a more realistic sense. It is completely improbable that our government will cut funding a great deal, ever. Doesn't matter who is in control, they all spend like mad. Repubs and Dems alike.

I don't see why people don't see that the only difference between the two parties in this area is that Dems are "tax and spend" while the GOP is "spend and spend". So you have the choice of helping to pay for government services or to allow our national debt to explode. Most people only think in the short term so we know which of these many would choose...
East Lithuania
10-04-2007, 19:03
Bush is under par but deffinatly not the worst president ever, tha title belongs to U.S. Grant
Newer Burmecia
10-04-2007, 20:22
I'm going for worst 5 out of sheer ignorance of 19th century Presidents, but that still lets him take the no. 1 spot.