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Where is it not ok to have hair?

Russian Reversal
09-04-2007, 12:23
I'm a hairy guy. Ew! I hate it! As soon as I get the money, I'm getting laser hair removal.

So, just for kicks, where is it NOT OKAY to have body hair?
Arinola
09-04-2007, 12:29
In your eyes.
Harlesburg
09-04-2007, 12:31
It's not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not ok for a man to have hair on his pubic area.
The Infinite Dunes
09-04-2007, 12:33
It's not nice to have hair in most places. Except in the pubic areas. Where an absence of it just looks very wrong.

You might as well get rid of your armpit hair whilst you're at it too. That's never nice either. Chest and abdomen hair is fine, just so long as aren't in Pete Sampras' league. Leg hair isn't too great either.

Scalp hair can be amazing though. It can be silky, toneful, and just amazing to behold and touch. :)
Northern Borders
09-04-2007, 12:36
Women: Nowhere besides the pubic area and head.
Men: Women can deal with almost everything, but they dont deal with hairry butts, hate hairry backs, and everything else it really depends, because there are some women who dig hairry chests (most women of the older generation).

Women from our generation (at least mine, 23 years old) just hate hair alltogether.

And please, dont take out your armpit hair unless its too much. I think its one of the few places where man are allowed to have them.
Vault 10
09-04-2007, 12:37
What? I thought you'd ask where is it okay not to have hair.

Probably on shoulders.


Ew! I hate it! As soon as I get the money, I'm getting laser hair removal. That's one thing which is for sure not OK. Are you a metrosexual?
Russian Reversal
09-04-2007, 12:39
It's not nice to have hair in most places. Except in the pubic areas. Where an absence of it just looks very wrong.

I personally think pubic hair on anyone male or female is gross.


You might as well get rid of your armpit hair whilst you're at it too.

I do.


Chest and abdomen hair is fine, just so long as aren't in Pete Sampras' league.

I am.
Wallonochia
09-04-2007, 12:39
Extremely hairy men look like monkeys to me. I absolutely cannot imagine being attracted to that.
Russian Reversal
09-04-2007, 12:47
That's one thing which is for sure not OK. Are you a metrosexual?

Define metrosexual.
I like to wear bright colors. My hair is short and dyed black, with a longer bleached blond bit in the front left. I don't have any piercings yet, but I intend to get several - two lip rings, a right eyebrow ring, two helical piercings on my left ear, both ears gauged to 00, and maybe more. I also intend to get tattoos, but I'm not entirely sure of what yet. The music I like is typically industrial techno, although I like some indie stuff, and some metal. I'm thinking about painting my nails... blue or green. I'm also bisexual.


If I'm not wearing a shirt, catching the hair on my shoulder in the periphery of my vision causes me to obssess about it until I either shave it, pluck it out, or put a shirt on.
The Infinite Dunes
09-04-2007, 12:52
I personally think pubic hair on anyone male or female is gross.


I do.


I am.You poor soul. So much hair... Well, if you want to look like a porn star then that's your choice.
I V Stalin
09-04-2007, 12:56
It's not nice to have hair in most places. Except in the pubic areas. Where an absence of it just looks very wrong.

You might as well get rid of your armpit hair whilst you're at it too. That's never nice either. Chest and abdomen hair is fine, just so long as aren't in Pete Sampras' league. Leg hair isn't too great either.

Scalp hair can be amazing though. It can be silky, toneful, and just amazing to behold and touch. :)
What's wrong with leg hair?

Apart from everything you mentioned, thick hair on the arms isn't particularly nice. And, yes, scalp hair can be very nice.
Harlesburg
09-04-2007, 12:57
Women: Nowhere besides the pubic area and head.
Men: Women can deal with almost everything, but they dont deal with hairry butts, hate hairry backs, and everything else it really depends, because there are some women who dig hairry chests (most women of the older generation).

Women from our generation (at least mine, 23 years old) just hate hair alltogether.

And please, dont take out your armpit hair unless its too much. I think its one of the few places where man are allowed to have them.
Women are stupid.
Disliking facial hair*rolls eyes*
*Scorns*
Northern Borders
09-04-2007, 12:59
Define metrosexual.
I like to wear bright colors. My hair is short and dyed black, with a longer bleached blond bit in the front left. I don't have any piercings yet, but I intend to get several - two lip rings, a right eyebrow ring, two helical piercings on my left ear, both ears gauged to 00, and maybe more. I also intend to get tattoos, but I'm not entirely sure of what yet. The music I like is typically industrial techno, although I like some indie stuff, and some metal. I'm thinking about painting my nails... blue or green. I'm also bisexual.


If I'm not wearing a shirt, catching the hair on my shoulder in the periphery of my vision causes me to obssess about it until I either shave it, pluck it out, or put a shirt on.

You´re emo. Metrossexual is a vain and clean looking guy who spends a lot of time on his looks, but trying to achieve a more clean good looking guy. Something like George Clooney.

You´re just emo.
The Infinite Dunes
09-04-2007, 13:01
What's wrong with leg hair?

Apart from everything you mentioned, thick hair on the arms isn't particularly nice. And, yes, scalp hair can be very nice.How thick is thick for arm hair? My arm hair is thicker than most, but I wouldn't consider it bad.

Leg hair though. It's either thin/wispy/light and makes you look like a child, or it's thick/coarse/dark and makes you look like a half malted animal.
Infinite Revolution
09-04-2007, 13:01
the soles of your feet. that's a pretty untenable position for hair to grow. unless you never get off your arse i suppose.

i'm fairly hairy but i quite like it, except where it grows unevenly, like the left side of my chest is distinctly hairier than the right side which is kind of odd. best thing about my body hair is it is multicoloured, goes from white blonde through bright orange to almost black in various places.
Infinite Revolution
09-04-2007, 13:04
Women: Nowhere besides the pubic area and head.
Men: Women can deal with almost everything, but they dont deal with hairry butts, hate hairry backs, and everything else it really depends, because there are some women who dig hairry chests (most women of the older generation).

Women from our generation (at least mine, 23 years old) just hate hair alltogether.

And please, dont take out your armpit hair unless its too much. I think its one of the few places where man are allowed to have them.

women are pretty odd in your area then, most women i know like hairy guys and they're in the same age group. it's like men only liking fake boobs, just weird.
I V Stalin
09-04-2007, 13:09
How thick is thick for arm hair? My arm hair is thicker than most, but I wouldn't consider it bad.
I'd say that this (http://www.n-philes.com/m/news/nightsb/05082006/lap.gif) is bordering on 'thick' (ie. too thick).

Leg hair though. It's either thin/wispy/light and makes you look like a child, or it's thick/coarse/dark and makes you look like a half malted animal.
Odd, my leg hair is about halfway between those too. I could show you at the weekend if you want...?:p
Arinola
09-04-2007, 13:16
I'd say that this (http://www.n-philes.com/m/news/nightsb/05082006/lap.gif) is bordering on 'thick' (ie. too thick).

That ain't too bad?

Odd, my leg hair is about halfway between those too. I could show you at the weekend if you want...?:p

Same. Mind you, I had my legs waxed back in October (never, EVER do that) and it grew back a bit thinner.
The Infinite Dunes
09-04-2007, 13:18
I'd say that this (http://www.n-philes.com/m/news/nightsb/05082006/lap.gif) is bordering on 'thick' (ie. too thick).


Odd, my leg hair is about halfway between those too. I could show you at the weekend if you want...?:pI'll show you mine if you show me yours :p

Anyway, I tried to take a picture of my arms, but the batteries on my camera decided to die, and I couldn't get a decent resolution with my mobile. Suckage.
I V Stalin
09-04-2007, 13:18
That ain't too bad?

Same. Mind you, I had my legs waxed back in October (never, EVER do that) and it grew back a bit thinner.
I did say bordering on too thick. I'd be considering doing something about it if my arm hair was as thick as that.

And I never intend to have my legs waxed, not even for charity. I'd rather drink my own piss.
Arinola
09-04-2007, 13:22
I did say bordering on too thick. I'd be considering doing something about it if my arm hair was as thick as that.

Ah, granted. It is getting a bit thick.

And I never intend to have my legs waxed, not even for charity. I'd rather drink my own piss.

I did it for a school trip we're going on to Ecuador. It better be fucking worth it.
The Infinite Dunes
09-04-2007, 13:23
To to OP: why don't you use a hair trimmer in the mean time?
The Infinite Dunes
09-04-2007, 13:24
Ah, granted. It is getting a bit thick.I'm in the clear. I think my hair is less thick than that.
Arinola
09-04-2007, 13:25
I'm in the clear. I think my hair is less thick than that.

I have very little hair on my arms, and not much grows on my face at all. My legs are pretty average, I think.
Charlotte Ryberg
09-04-2007, 13:28
Having hair at the butt: I would find it a bit extreme
Russian Reversal
09-04-2007, 13:29
You´re emo. Metrossexual is a vain and clean looking guy who spends a lot of time on his looks, but trying to achieve a more clean good looking guy. Something like George Clooney.

You´re just emo.

That's too bad. I hate emo music. I hate emo kids. My hat of emo know no limit. I also consider emo style to be a little... dirtier. I am vain and clean.
Northern Borders
09-04-2007, 13:30
women are pretty odd in your area then, most women i know like hairy guys and they're in the same age group. it's like men only liking fake boobs, just weird.

I´m brazilian. Women here are pretty vain, and looks like guys are becoming too. Ever heard of brazilian wax? Yes, it was created here, and almost all women get waxed all over their bodies.

And they are expecting man to do it too. Damn those metrosexuals, but they are getting waxed and raising the standarts, meaning women like clean shaved, clean body type of guys.

It sucks but its reality. Of course, I mean the women who can choose :D The ones who dont get happy with anything they can get their hands on.
Funky Beat
09-04-2007, 13:38
Canada.

Oh, wait. Misunderstanding.
Infinite Revolution
09-04-2007, 13:39
I´m brazilian. Women here are pretty vain, and looks like guys are becoming too. Ever heard of brazilian wax? Yes, it was created here, and almost all women get waxed all over their bodies.

And they are expecting man to do it too. Damn those metrosexuals, but they are getting waxed and raising the standarts, meaning women like clean shaved, clean body type of guys.

It sucks but its reality. Of course, I mean the women who can choose :D The ones who dont get happy with anything they can get their hands on.

oh yeah, i heard of that culture of no body hair in brazil. to me it just makes people look like they do porn, goes along with the fake boob thing too i guess.
Vandal-Unknown
09-04-2007, 13:39
Depends on who you're trying to impress.
Arinola
09-04-2007, 13:41
Canada.

Oh, wait. Misunderstanding.

I was going to say "At the back of my throat after she's finished," but then I remembered these boards are PG-13. :p
Funky Beat
09-04-2007, 13:46
I was going to say "At the back of my throat after she's finished," but then I remembered these boards are PG-13. :p

:D

Nothing quite like ambiguous thread titles for some mischevious fun.
Siempreciego
09-04-2007, 13:55
on your palms...
Arinola
09-04-2007, 14:05
:D

Nothing quite like ambiguous thread titles for some mischevious fun.

Lolz. :p
Vault 10
09-04-2007, 14:05
How thick is thick for arm hair? My arm hair is thicker than most, but I wouldn't consider it bad.
Depends on how far North you are. The further, the more. Thick arm, leg, chest hair also lets you be less affected by weather in what to wear.


I hate emo music. I hate emo kids. My hat of emo know no limit.
It's OK. The opposite extremes are closer than the moderates. People with the most hate for gays are among more susceptible to become ones; some GNAA members once were the worst bigots; many IT security pros are former hackers. As one can have latent gay tendency, responding like a gay in covert tests, but being never-go-gay by his willpower, he can have latent emo one.
Northern Borders
09-04-2007, 14:07
oh yeah, i heard of that culture of no body hair in brazil. to me it just makes people look like they do porn, goes along with the fake boob thing too i guess.

It has to do with our weater and country. Unlike the US, which is an horizontal country, Brazil is pretty much vertical, meaning most of the population stands near the beaches. And our climate is much warmer too, meaning in winter it hardly goes bellow 15 in most cities. In Rio de Janeiro, its summer all year around.

Meaning people spend a lot of time in beaches, wearing almost nothing. You wear bikini, speedos and boxers almost all year. Even here in my state, which is the coldest one (being the southern one), with the worst winter of the country, you have people going to beaches about 3 months of the year. So much that most people who live inside the country usually have an house or apartment in the beach.

My family has the house we live in, and also an apartment in a beach nearby where we usually go in the weekends and in the summer. Its common for people like students to spend december-february in the beaches.
Lunatic Goofballs
09-04-2007, 14:11
I consider hairy teeth to be extremely not ok. *nod*
Infinite Revolution
09-04-2007, 14:12
It has to do with our weater and country. Unlike the US, which is an horizontal country, Brazil is pretty much vertical, meaning most of the population stands near the beaches. And our climate is much warmer too, meaning in winter it hardly goes bellow 15 in most cities. In Rio de Janeiro, its summer all year around.

Meaning people spend a lot of time in beaches, wearing almost nothing. You wear bikini, speedos and boxers almost all year. Even here in my state, which is the coldest one (being the southern one), with the worst winter of the country, you have people going to beaches about 3 months of the year. So much that most people who live inside the country usually have an house or apartment in the beach.

My family has the house we live in, and also an apartment in a beach nearby where we usually go in the weekends and in the summer. Its common for people like students to spend december-february in the beaches.

heh, i live on a tiny island which is pretty much half beach. but then it can get cold here in winter. summer is spent mostly on the beach though, in fact i spent most of friday on the beach, it was a good day :D
Arinola
09-04-2007, 14:15
I consider hairy teeth to be extremely not ok. *nod*

Why, my teeth-hair is sleek and shiny! Dazzles the pants off any girl.
Lunatic Goofballs
09-04-2007, 14:16
Why, my teeth-hair is sleek and shiny! Dazzles the pants off any girl.

You are the exception that proves the rule, my fine fucked up friend. :)
Arinola
09-04-2007, 14:19
You are the exception that proves the rule, my fine fucked up friend. :)

That's not all. You could plait my nasal hair.
Lunatic Goofballs
09-04-2007, 14:20
That's not all. You could plait my nasal hair.

Fun! :D
Arinola
09-04-2007, 14:23
Fun! :D

Oh, and I have a tail.



Ok, that one was a joke.
Kryozerkia
09-04-2007, 14:24
I shave my boyfriend's back on a regular basis... I mean, back hair is just so... ick! And let's not even talk about ass hair! ICK!!
Arinola
09-04-2007, 14:26
I shave my boyfriend's back on a regular basis... I mean, back hair is just so... ick! And let's not even talk about ass hair! ICK!!

Wait...didn't you leave NSG?
My God, it really IS like Hotel California! :eek:
Lunatic Goofballs
09-04-2007, 14:29
Oh, and I have a tail.



Ok, that one was a joke.

Good thing too! What kind of freakish mutant has a tail? :eek:

Now go brush your tooth hair. :)
Dryks Legacy
09-04-2007, 14:31
I consider hairy teeth to be extremely not ok. *nod*

Hair on any other bone is also not cool.
Northern Borders
09-04-2007, 14:38
heh, i live on a tiny island which is pretty much half beach. but then it can get cold here in winter. summer is spent mostly on the beach though, in fact i spent most of friday on the beach, it was a good day :D

Well, then you know that women with hairry legs are really ugly :D
Bottle
09-04-2007, 14:39
I'm a hairy guy. Ew! I hate it! As soon as I get the money, I'm getting laser hair removal.

So, just for kicks, where is it NOT OKAY to have body hair?
My personal preference:

Back hair = eew. Butt hair is included in this.

Chest hair can be okay, to a point, though I much prefer hairless chests.

Arm/leg hair isn't really a problem, unless your arm hair is so long that it tickles the palm of anybody who shakes your hand.

Genital hair is okay, as long as you keep it trim and clean. I've told my partners that they should be prepared to shave anywhere they'd like my mouth to go, as I am not partial to hairballs.

Ear/nose hair is gross.
Infinite Revolution
09-04-2007, 14:42
Well, then you know that women with hairry legs are really ugly :D

heh, it's the pubes peeking out of bathing costumes that is most gross though. or the beached 'whales', but that's a whole other topic.
Arinola
09-04-2007, 14:44
Good thing too! What kind of freakish mutant has a tail? :eek:
A Goofball. ;)

Now go brush your tooth hair. :)

Hmm, I better. I'm off to the Tooth Barber soon, I need a trim.
Smunkeeville
09-04-2007, 14:46
my husband is pretty hairy, and I am okay with that, in fact I like it. If however he had hair on his feet.....I might be a little grossed out. (not on his toes, he has that, but on like the tops of his feet)
Cookesland
09-04-2007, 14:46
anything not in the Bikini Zone?
Smunkeeville
09-04-2007, 14:50
My personal preference:

Back hair = eew. Butt hair is included in this.

Chest hair can be okay, to a point, though I much prefer hairless chests.

Arm/leg hair isn't really a problem, unless your arm hair is so long that it tickles the palm of anybody who shakes your hand.

Genital hair is okay, as long as you keep it trim and clean. I've told my partners that they should be prepared to shave anywhere they'd like my mouth to go, as I am not partial to hairballs.

Ear/nose hair is gross.

or....you could just accept your partner how they are?

I am sure you would expect the same from them.....
Bottle
09-04-2007, 15:03
or....you could just accept your partner how they are?

I am sure you would expect the same from them.....
If somebody wants to have body hair, that's completely their choice. I simply will prefer not to fuck them. Since nobody is entitled to my body, I am not in any way hurting them or punishing them by declining to fuck them.

My partner knows that there are certain things I find unattractive. For instance, if he's got great big eye-boogers crusted around his lashes, I tend to be turned off. He knows I also find it unattractive if his pubic hair is long enough for dreds. He knows I will not be incited to lust if I see things like eye boogers or braidable pubes. Because he likes me, he thinks it would be nice for me to actually WANT to have sex with him, instead of being totally grossed out but submitting to sex out of obligation.

Besides which, I didn't see anything in the OP about long-term partners. I shared my personal preference in body hair styles. This is no different than me having a personal preference when it comes to clothing styles. You only need to care about my personal preferences if you are interested in being attractive to ME. If you're not, then don't worry about it. :D
Smunkeeville
09-04-2007, 15:07
If somebody wants to have body hair, that's completely their choice. I simply will prefer not to fuck them. Since nobody is entitled to my body, I am not in any way hurting them or punishing them by declining to fuck them.

My partner knows that there are certain things I find unattractive. For instance, if he's got great big eye-boogers crusted around his lashes, I tend to be turned off. He knows I also find it unattractive if his pubic hair is long enough for dreds. He knows I will not be incited to lust if I see things like eye boogers or braidable pubes. Because he likes me, he thinks it would be nice for me to actually WANT to have sex with him, instead of being totally grossed out but submitting to sex out of obligation.

Besides which, I didn't see anything in the OP about long-term partners. I shared my personal preference in body hair styles. This is no different than me having a personal preference when it comes to clothing styles. You only need to care about my personal preferences if you are interested in being attractive to ME. If you're not, then don't worry about it. :D

interesting. ;)
Sarkhaan
09-04-2007, 15:34
No guy should look like he is wearing a sweater 24/7

Personally, I have no back hair to deal with, keep my arms and legs how they are, sometimes shave my chest when I get bored, have a goatee, and maintain the pubes (trim)
Dakini
09-04-2007, 15:54
Pretty much the only thing I didn't click was face, back of neck (it didn't specify if that was the little bit at the bottom of the hairline, which is good, or stuff creeping up from the back, which is bad) and chest.

Although chest is iffy. I don't mind when a guy has a little chest hair, but when it's like a carpet... ugh... no thanks. Same goes with stomach. A little "happy trail" is fine, but any more is gross.

Oh and unibrows aren't particularly gross... they just make me want to run for a pair of tweezers.
Zilam
09-04-2007, 17:23
For me, i freak out if I get hair anywhere on my back, butt or shoulders. I don't like having too much pubic hair, but it itches too dang much if you shave too much off. I of course have a "happy" trail of my torso, and i have some facial hair. Another big no-no for me is nipple hair, that just seems so icky :(


But i agree with smunkee, we should accept ourselves and our partners as we are.
Demented Hamsters
09-04-2007, 17:30
palms. Cause then everyone will know what you've been doing.

gotta feel sorry for this guy:
http://freaks.davezilla.com/images/American_SunBear1.jpg
that's just waayyyyy too much hair.
Smunkeeville
09-04-2007, 18:08
http://freaks.davezilla.com/images/American_SunBear1.jpg
that's just waayyyyy too much hair.

*puts on faux British accent*
no it isn't
Neesika
09-04-2007, 18:09
palms. Cause then everyone will know what you've been doing.

gotta feel sorry for this guy:
http://freaks.davezilla.com/images/American_SunBear1.jpg
that's just waayyyyy too much hair.

What are you talking about? Despite the obvious sunny day, the guy's wearing a sweater. I admit, that's odd but...wait...oh my god...no...it can't be...

*claws eyes out of sockets*

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Bottle
09-04-2007, 18:17
But i agree with smunkee, we should accept ourselves and our partners as we are.
I'm still confused as to why accepting one's partner and also having personal aesthetic preferences are mutually exclusive.
Natovski Romanov
09-04-2007, 18:32
the soles of your feet. that's a pretty untenable position for hair to grow. unless you never get off your arse i suppose.

i'm fairly hairy but i quite like it, except where it grows unevenly, like the left side of my chest is distinctly hairier than the right side which is kind of odd. best thing about my body hair is it is multicoloured, goes from white blonde through bright orange to almost black in various places.

Awesome....

I like the amount of hair I have now except for on my head. Ive got a wicked beard going(about 4 inches long) its black everywhere except for two spots on and a little to the side of my chin which is orange (its very symmetrical). My girlfriend didnt like the idea at first but now she loves the beard- except when it rubs against her, not that its all that coarse, just annoying.
Greater Trostia
09-04-2007, 18:34
I'm a hairy guy. Ew! I hate it! As soon as I get the money, I'm getting laser hair removal.

So, just for kicks, where is it NOT OKAY to have body hair?

Laser hair removal? Fuck that!

You're a man, you're hairy. It comes with the job. I hate this metrosexual culture thing where suddenly, men have to be hairless like women.

Tough it out, live with it. Be proud of it. Display your hairyness and revel in it. Throw it in people's faces. If they can't deal, that's their problem. It's YOUR BODY YOUR CHOICE.
Smunkeeville
09-04-2007, 18:35
I'm still confused as to why accepting one's partner and also having personal aesthetic preferences are mutually exclusive.

it's not. I just think that if you are going to place restrictions on stuff, you should be willing to go along.......(that didn't make sense did it)

let's try it this way... if anything on me get's plucked, waxed, shaved, etc. it's because I wanted it done. I don't want anyone to tell me what on my body they find acceptable, and so I extend that to hubby. If he wants his back hair, there isn't a darn thing I am going to say otherwise. "Learn to love it" that's what I say.
Ashmoria
09-04-2007, 18:36
its perfectly fine to have hair whereever hair grows naturally. anyone who would reject you for your hair isnt worth your time anyway.

it is also perfectly fine to remove whatever hair you are inclined to remove. its your time and effort. anyone who would reject you for your choice in hair removal is also not worth your time.

personally i would find it ODD to remove your eyebrows and eyelashes in a quest for hairlessness.
The Infinite Dunes
09-04-2007, 18:40
palms. Cause then everyone will know what you've been doing.

gotta feel sorry for this guy:
http://freaks.davezilla.com/images/American_SunBear1.jpg
that's just waayyyyy too much hair.Or too little. The guy is going bald. A lot of hair in the worst place and not enough in the best place.
Soviet Haaregrad
09-04-2007, 18:42
That's too bad. I hate emo music. I hate emo kids. My hat of emo know no limit. I also consider emo style to be a little... dirtier. I am vain and clean.

I suggest some real emo, like Orchid or Saetia. Then you can join me in burning a scenekid to death to protest MTV raping the name of the genre. ;)

/hijack

Anyways, body hair is gross. Lower leg hair, lower arm hair and trimmed armpit hair are all acceptable on guys. I've known a few girls with so little leg hair that it wouldn't matter if they shaved their legs or not (sorry ladies, armpit hair of any sort is gross on you...).
Sarkhaan
09-04-2007, 18:45
it's not. I just think that if you are going to place restrictions on stuff, you should be willing to go along.......(that didn't make sense did it)

let's try it this way... if anything on me get's plucked, waxed, shaved, etc. it's because I wanted it done. I don't want anyone to tell me what on my body they find acceptable, and so I extend that to hubby. If he wants his back hair, there isn't a darn thing I am going to say otherwise. "Learn to love it" that's what I say.

I'm not so sure that Bottle is suggesting that she wouldn't love someone who was hairy...just that physical attraction would be less and, as a result, the desire for physical contact would be less (as she stated, she hates hairballs. And I don't blame her)

I personally agree. I'll be attracted to my partner on an emotional level regardless of appearance. However, physical attraction is still a factor. I don't expect or demand that my partner changes how they look to suit my desires, but if they do, I will be more physically attracted, and our sex life will be better. If they got to the point where I was physically repulsed by them (not sure what that would take exactly, but just as a hypothetical), sex life will suffer. Sure, they're still a great person, but I'm not going to pretend that physical appearance is a relevant factor in sex drive.

did any of that make sense? Probably not. But alas, I am a bit tired.
Natovski Romanov
09-04-2007, 18:48
Laser hair removal? Fuck that!

You're a man, you're hairy. It comes with the job. I hate this metrosexual culture thing where suddenly, men have to be hairless like women.

Tough it out, live with it. Be proud of it. Display your hairyness and revel in it. Throw it in people's faces. If they can't deal, that's their problem. It's YOUR BODY YOUR CHOICE.

I'd have to agree. Men are supposed to be hairy, why ruin a good thing?
Smunkeeville
09-04-2007, 18:50
I'm not so sure that Bottle is suggesting that she wouldn't love someone who was hairy...just that physical attraction would be less and, as a result, the desire for physical contact would be less (as she stated, she hates hairballs. And I don't blame her)

I personally agree. I'll be attracted to my partner on an emotional level regardless of appearance. However, physical attraction is still a factor. I don't expect or demand that my partner changes how they look to suit my desires, but if they do, I will be more physically attracted, and our sex life will be better. If they got to the point where I was physically repulsed by them (not sure what that would take exactly, but just as a hypothetical), sex life will suffer. Sure, they're still a great person, but I'm not going to pretend that physical appearance is a relevant factor in sex drive.

did any of that make sense? Probably not. But alas, I am a bit tired.
it makes sense, I just don't know how much the physical appearance actually does matter to me. I am more interested in whether or not he has recently showered......you know? haha.
Ashmoria
09-04-2007, 18:57
it makes sense, I just don't know how much the physical appearance actually does matter to me. I am more interested in whether or not he has recently showered......you know? haha.

if a long term relationship is dependant on a certain physical appearance, its doomed. people change. people look like crap at certain times of the day. people age. there are so many worse possibilities out there than "back hair".

needing to have control over your partners hair decisions is perhaps a level of obsessive need to control that is unhealthy. we cant expect to run every aspect of our partner's life. choosing or rejecting an otherwise great man for his level of hairiness is a bit much. there just arent that many really good partners out there for any particular person. (unless one is extremely attractive, i suppose, ive never been in that position)
Smunkeeville
09-04-2007, 19:05
if a long term relationship is dependant on a certain physical appearance, its doomed. people change. people look like crap at certain times of the day. people age. there are so many worse possibilities out there than "back hair".

needing to have control over your partners hair decisions is perhaps a level of obsessive need to control that is unhealthy. we cant expect to run every aspect of our partner's life. choosing or rejecting an otherwise great man for his level of hairiness is a bit much. there just arent that many really good partners out there for any particular person. (unless one is extremely attractive, i suppose, ive never been in that position)

I find my husband extremely attractive, because he shows respect for me, and is considerate of my feelings, and is fun to be around. I am pretty sure that he isn't what most people would find "physically attractive" which is lucky for me, because he was available when I found him. He has a number of physical attributes that I enjoy, one of them being his back hair, it's soft, and it reminds me that I love him no matter what, and he loves me no matter what, even when I gained weight having kids, and when my body isn't the same after two of them, and even loves me when I dye my hair all colors of the rainbow, and paint my toenails purple. He loves me because I do what I want, and I want to be with him. [/mush]
Ashmoria
09-04-2007, 19:08
I find my husband extremely attractive, because he shows respect for me, and is considerate of my feelings, and is fun to be around. I am pretty sure that he isn't what most people would find "physically attractive" which is lucky for me, because he was available when I found him. He has a number of physical attributes that I enjoy, one of them being his back hair, it's soft, and it reminds me that I love him no matter what, and he loves me no matter what, even when I gained weight having kids, and when my body isn't the same after two of them, and even loves me when I dye my hair all colors of the rainbow, and paint my toenails purple. He loves me because I do what I want, and I want to be with him. [/mush]

which is as it should be.
Szanth
09-04-2007, 19:30
If the results of the poll are anything to go by, then apparently body hair is ftl no matter where it is.
The Infinite Dunes
09-04-2007, 19:39
If the results of the poll are anything to go by, then apparently body hair is ftl no matter where it is.No, face, chest and pubic hair is surviving quite well.
Poliwanacraca
09-04-2007, 19:55
It is certainly "okay" to have hair any- and everywhere (although, as has been pointed out, things like tooth hair would certainly be a bit odd :p ). That said, my theoretical physically-ideal-for-me man would probably not have much in the way of back, neck, or butt hair, as I don't find those very attractive. However, I've dated guys who were amply endowed with all of the above, and I certainly never thought "Ew, too much back hair" when I was with them, although I have thought that about guys with identical amounts of back hair in whom I was not romantically interested. Funny how that works. :)

(Heck, I nearly married a guy with what can only be described as "Austin Powers" chest hair. It looked utterly and completely ridiculous, but given that it was attached to someone I was in love with, I found it quite cute. Said fellow was also not at all lacking in hair in any of the places I mentioned above. He asked me once if he should remove his back hair, and I answered, "Well, dear, you're probably never going to receive compliments on your sexy, sexy back hair, but you'll also never receive complaints, at least not from me.")
The Infinite Dunes
09-04-2007, 22:11
It is certainly "okay" to have hair any- and everywhere (although, as has been pointed out, things like tooth hair would certainly be a bit odd :p ). That said, my theoretical physically-ideal-for-me man would probably not have much in the way of back, neck, or butt hair, as I don't find those very attractive. However, I've dated guys who were amply endowed with all of the above, and I certainly never thought "Ew, too much back hair" when I was with them, although I have thought that about guys with identical amounts of back hair in whom I was not romantically interested. Funny how that works. :)

(Heck, I nearly married a guy with what can only be described as "Austin Powers" chest hair. It looked utterly and completely ridiculous, but given that it was attached to someone I was in love with, I found it quite cute. Said fellow was also not at all lacking in hair in any of the places I mentioned above. He asked me once if he should remove his back hair, and I answered, "Well, dear, you're probably never going to receive compliments on your sexy, sexy back hair, but you'll also never receive complaints, at least not from me.")Marry? I always had the impression that you not of the age of someone who would consider marriage (but was of marrigable age)... but then I thought the same of Smunk. Was I ever surprised when I learnt how old she is.
Similization
09-04-2007, 22:51
The best places to be furry, is where ever you think it's suitable to be furry. You'll never be more attractive to others than you are to yourself, because physical beauty has a hell of a lot to do with things like body language and self confidence.

If you want to know how to prune/preen to score the stud/chick/toaster of your dreams, look like you want to look.

The only real exceptions is body hair others might choke on. Trim or get rid of that entirely.
The Infinite Dunes
09-04-2007, 23:16
The best places to be furry, is where ever you think it's suitable to be furry. You'll never be more attractive to others than you are to yourself, because physical beauty has a hell of a lot to do with things like body language and self confidence.

If you want to know how to prune/preen to score the stud/chick/toaster of your dreams, look like you want to look.

The only real exceptions is body hair others might choke on. Trim or get rid of that entirely.The best place to be furry is Furnet. :p
strange strange people
Poliwanacraca
09-04-2007, 23:18
Marry? I always had the impression that you not of the age of someone who would consider marriage (but was of marrigable age)... but then I thought the same of Smunk. Was I ever surprised when I learnt how old she is.

Heh. If I recall correctly, Smunkee and I are fairly close to the same age; I vaguely remember being surprised by her age some time in the past, as I had actually assumed her to be significantly my elder. (I'm always getting people's ages wrong on this forum, though - I seem to be quite excellent at identifying genders, and ridiculously bad at distinguishing 15-year-olds from 50-year-olds. :p )
Mikesburg
09-04-2007, 23:30
I'm a natural furball, which is fine by me. Why? Well it gives me options. If I feel like being Austin Powers, then I display my thick carpet of chest hair proudly. If not, well I shave my head on a semi-regular basis anyway, and the hair on my chest and stomach (and other places) often goes as well.

If a woman is really concerned about body hair, it can be removed. I really don't care. However, if she likes it, and I don't have it, I can't exactly grow it at will now can I? Nope.

One area which I almost always shave, and have for almost a decade now, is my armpits. Some people may find it strange, but shaving your armpits reduces body odour, as the sweat glands combine with the hair in there to trap bacteria. Shaving your armpits won't completely remove b.o., but it vastly reduces it. If sweating is a big part of what you do everyday, it helps.
Russian Reversal
09-04-2007, 23:35
I'm a natural furball, which is fine by me. Why? Well it gives me options. If I feel like being Austin Powers, then I display my thick carpet of chest hair proudly. If not, well I shave my head on a semi-regular basis anyway, and the hair on my chest and stomach (and other places) often goes as well.

Have you ever actually shaved your chest? It itches like hell! Also, apparently the abrasions caused by shaving can increase your susceptibility to some illnesses.

One area which I almost always shave, and have for almost a decade now, is my armpits. Some people may find it strange, but shaving your armpits reduces body odour, as the sweat glands combine with the hair in there to trap bacteria. Shaving your armpits won't completely remove b.o., but it vastly reduces it. If sweating is a big part of what you do everyday, it helps.

That's exactly why I do it.

By the way, I'm not getting laser hair reduction to impress anyone else. I'm going to get it because I'm almost neurotic about my body hair. It bothers the hell out of me. The only reason I am going to *keep* my chest, arm, and leg hair is because my girlfriend likes it.
Space Bitches
09-04-2007, 23:37
Wow, I hope that none of you people ever see me, because of the things I've been hearing
The Infinite Dunes
10-04-2007, 00:23
Is this amount of hair okay?
http://www.addamsfamily.com/addams/itt01.jpg
Lunatic Goofballs
10-04-2007, 00:25
Is this amount of hair okay?
http://www.addamsfamily.com/addams/itt01.jpg

I never noticed how phallic Cousin It looks. :)
Poliwanacraca
10-04-2007, 00:26
Is this amount of hair okay?
http://www.addamsfamily.com/addams/itt01.jpg

I was Cousin Itt for Halloween once! Easiest costume ever. :)
The Scandinvans
10-04-2007, 00:27
Yeah, I have gentically little hair save in my pants.
The blessed Chris
10-04-2007, 00:30
Firstly, what the fuck is scalp hair?

Secondly, I'm not a huge fan of hair anywhere other than legs, arms and pubic areas.
Arinola
10-04-2007, 00:30
but then I thought the same of Smunk. Was I ever surprised when I learnt how old she is.

Same....I was shocked!
Smunkeeville
10-04-2007, 00:37
Same....I was shocked!

what's up with that anyway? :confused:
The Infinite Dunes
10-04-2007, 00:40
Firstly, what the fuck is scalp hair?

Secondly, I'm not a huge fan of hair anywhere other than legs, arms and pubic areas.I presume one knows what the scalp is? If not, then this is a handy little site http://dictionary.reference.com/

You'll find that scalp accurately describes the hair I am talking about, and cannot in anyway be subject to sexual innuendo. I got fed up of all the 'hur hur's whenever I used to say 'head hair' or 'the hair on your head'.
The blessed Chris
10-04-2007, 00:41
I presume one knows what the scalp is? If not, then this is a handy little site http://dictionary.reference.com/

You'll find that scalp accurately describes the hair I am talking about, and cannot in anyway be subject to sexual innuendo. I got fed up of all the 'hur hur's whenever I used to say 'head hair' or 'the hair on your head'.

Oh right.....:D

In regard to "scalp hair", I myself sport any number of stupid fringes and straightened coifs.;)
The Infinite Dunes
10-04-2007, 00:42
what's up with that anyway? :confused:Nothing, it's just that I expected you to at least be in your thirties if you had a husband and two kids.

My mum was 28 when I was born (the first child), and she's considered quite a young mum. That's why I had that presumption.
Arinola
10-04-2007, 00:46
what's up with that anyway? :confused:

I just thought you were a bit older. Suppose it's the fact you have a hubby and kids.

For the record, I have never, ever seen a picture of you, so I was going purely on impression here. Other people have no excuse. :p
Smunkeeville
10-04-2007, 00:47
Nothing, it's just that I expected you to at least be in your thirties if you had a husband and two kids.

My mum was 28 when I was born (the first child), and she's considered quite a young mum. That's why I had that presumption.

most people online assume me to be about 15 years older than I am.

IRL I look pretty young, so I get confused for a teen mom a lot in public. I even get rude remarks. :(

I got pulled over once because the officer thought I was too young to drive, I was 22 at the time.
Smunkeeville
10-04-2007, 00:53
I just thought you were a bit older. Suppose it's the fact you have a hubby and kids.

For the record, I have never, ever seen a picture of you, so I was going purely on impression here. Other people have no excuse. :p

Ritilina or whatever has seen a pic of me and he said I looked "much older" than I claimed......:mad: I swear I don't.

*ponders posting a pic*
Poliwanacraca
10-04-2007, 00:55
most people online assume me to be about 15 years older than I am.

IRL I look pretty young, so I get confused for a teen mom a lot in public. I even get rude remarks. :(

I got pulled over once because the officer thought I was too young to drive, I was 22 at the time.

Heh. I know the feeling - as I mentioned, I'm around your own age, and I just recently got carded at an R movie. I went there with a group of friends, all of whom were at least two years younger than me, and none of whom got carded. On top of that, when I helped TA some labs for a high school class last year, one parent mistook me not just for a student, but for a middle school student who had apparently wandered into the AP Biology class randomly. :p

On the bright side, I figure I'll love it when I'm forty-five and everyone thinks I'm thirty!
The Infinite Dunes
10-04-2007, 00:55
most people online assume me to be about 15 years older than I am.

IRL I look pretty young, so I get confused for a teen mom a lot in public. I even get rude remarks. :(

I got pulled over once because the officer thought I was too young to drive, I was 22 at the time.Suckage...

But when your kids go to school you will be far and away the coolest mum of all. Though your kids will then promptly hate you for that because they won't have much to rebel against if their friends keep insisting you're cool. :)
Smunkeeville
10-04-2007, 01:00
Heh. I know the feeling - as I mentioned, I'm around your own age, and I just recently got carded at an R movie. I went there with a group of friends, all of whom were at least two years younger than me, and none of whom got carded. On top of that, when I helped TA some labs for a high school class last year, one parent mistook me not just for a student, but for a middle school student who had apparently wandered into the AP Biology class randomly. :p

On the bright side, I figure I'll love it when I'm forty-five and everyone thinks I'm thirty!
I got mistaken for a 15 year old not too long ago......I don't know what they were thinking. Don't think they didn't get a huge guilt trip from me though, teen mother or not, you just don't talk to people like that, esp. strangers.
Poliwanacraca
10-04-2007, 01:04
I got mistaken for a 15 year old not too long ago......I don't know what they were thinking. Don't think they didn't get a huge guilt trip from me though, teen mother or not, you just don't talk to people like that, esp. strangers.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who makes rude remarks to strangers most definitely deserves a huge guilt trip. (Well, unless the rude remark is something on the order of "Hey, stop punching that baby repeatedly in the face, you repulsive baby-puncher!" I'm okay with remarks like that, obviously.)
Utracia
10-04-2007, 01:06
http://www.fugly.com/ornot/fugly/images/upload/hairy_man_copy.jpg

Enough said.
The Atlantian islands
10-04-2007, 01:08
http://www.fugly.com/ornot/fugly/images/upload/hairy_man_copy.jpg

Enough said.
How is that even possible?
Lunatic Goofballs
10-04-2007, 01:11
How is that even possible?

Daily Rogaine baths. *nod*
Smunkeeville
10-04-2007, 01:19
How is that even possible?

maybe he has that wolf man disease?
Utracia
10-04-2007, 01:23
Daily Rogaine baths. *nod*

Heh, I bet he clogs up the shower drain every day. :p
Futuris
10-04-2007, 01:25
I would think that butt hair is a nuisance...
Dobbsworld
10-04-2007, 01:39
It is not okay to have eyebrow-like hair growing out the flesh atop of one's nose. Well, it's not fair, anyway.
Mikesburg
10-04-2007, 02:13
Have you ever actually shaved your chest? It itches like hell! Also, apparently the abrasions caused by shaving can increase your susceptibility to some illnesses.

I've shaved hair off my chest lots of times. Never made me feel itchy. And for the life of me, I can't imagine why you would suddenly be susceptible to disease for shaving your chest hair. I'm generally a really healthy guy. Haven't keeled over from some chest-hair flu bug.
Europa Maxima
10-04-2007, 02:38
Butt, back, shoulders, monobrow. I don't like beards either. Anywhere else and I will find it sexy (especially chest, stomach and pubic hair). I like rather hirsute guys. I am not overly hairy myself, at least not my upper body, and what hair I do have is rather fine - but I would have any hair in the regions I mentioned removed if I saw it in excess.
Sel Appa
10-04-2007, 02:39
Anywhere but Face, chest, and "down below".
Pie and Beer
10-04-2007, 02:39
in my pint.
Russian Reversal
10-04-2007, 03:59
...for the life of me, I can't imagine why you would suddenly be susceptible to disease for shaving your chest hair...

http://www.ergogenics.org/mrsa.html
Mikesburg
10-04-2007, 04:27
http://www.ergogenics.org/mrsa.html

I'll take my chances. I'm not going to worry about every potential infection I may get.
Ex Libris Morte
10-04-2007, 04:57
Personally I find all hair except for that on the scalp to be repulsive. And even that sometimes. Too much hair? Disgusting. Too little hair? Is it possible? The world may never know.
Trollgaard
10-04-2007, 05:02
I think its ok to have hair pretty much anywhere. I'm not a fan of unibrows, however. I am growing out long hair and a beard. I don't have much hair on my back, but my arms and legs are fairly hairy, and always have been. I even have hair on my feet, not just the toes! I plan on being prepared for the next ice age!
Europa Maxima
10-04-2007, 08:52
I'll take my chances. I'm not going to worry about every potential infection I may get.
Laser treatment and photolysis are far less dangerous, less painful and relatively permanent. They're somewhat expensive, but if you're serious about reducing your body hair (they can simply reduce it if you do not want it all removed), they are better value than shaving/waxing.
Christmahanikwanzikah
10-04-2007, 08:53
Why isn't "Feet" on the poll?
:p
Seangoli
10-04-2007, 09:11
Have you ever actually shaved your chest? It itches like hell! Also, apparently the abrasions caused by shaving can increase your susceptibility to some illnesses.


Any man who shaves anything but his face is no man at all. You are effectively turned into a prepubescent boy. Most of the time, the ones who do this seem to attain the personality of prepubescent boys, as well.

Unless you are a swimmer, of course. That's a different story.


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As for me, I have course black hair on my chest and stomach, hair on my legs, ass, and lower back. I'm not a hairy man beast, but any definition, but instead a sleak Italian God.

:D
Seangoli
10-04-2007, 09:12
Why isn't "Feet" on the poll?
:p

True story here, a high school friend of mine has hobbit feet. Hair all the way up his foot, not just the little bit on the toes. All the way up. Rather odd.
Russian Reversal
10-04-2007, 11:00
Laser treatment and photolysis are far less dangerous, less painful and relatively permanent. They're somewhat expensive, but if you're serious about reducing your body hair (they can simply reduce it if you do not want it all removed), they are better value than shaving/waxing.

I noticed that. I am worried about there being too stark a contrast between where the treament has been done, and where it hasn't. So I think I'll probably ask them to do less treatment, or less thourough treatment where the arms meet the shoulders.
Europa Maxima
10-04-2007, 11:28
I noticed that. I am worried about there being too stark a contrast between where the treament has been done, and where it hasn't. So I think I'll probably ask them to do less treatment, or less thourough treatment where the arms meet the shoulders.
Are you darker- or fairer-haired? Usually these treatments are far more intensive on the former (although techniques have been developed to be just as effective on the latter), but can still be used to simply achieve a reduction rather than wholesale removal. Personally, I don't mind some body hair on myself or on another guy* (I find most fully smooth guys unappealing, to say the least) - I would, however, if I had it in excess.

*Sort of like this (http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8555/5173821551321895i3tt7.jpg).
Soviet Haaregrad
10-04-2007, 12:09
True story here, a high school friend of mine has hobbit feet. Hair all the way up his foot, not just the little bit on the toes. All the way up. Rather odd.

I got hobbit feet, they disgust me. :(
Gartref
10-04-2007, 12:19
On my priest's advice, I have started shaving my palms.
Peepelonia
10-04-2007, 12:29
It's not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not ok for a man to have hair on his pubic area.

Huh!?!


That's like madness gone mad. No hair in the public area? But it's the pubic area, surly it's quite normal to have hair there?
Bottle
10-04-2007, 12:44
If a woman is really concerned about body hair, it can be removed. I really don't care. However, if she likes it, and I don't have it, I can't exactly grow it at will now can I? Nope.

That is a very sensible position to take. :D


One area which I almost always shave, and have for almost a decade now, is my armpits. Some people may find it strange, but shaving your armpits reduces body odour, as the sweat glands combine with the hair in there to trap bacteria. Shaving your armpits won't completely remove b.o., but it vastly reduces it. If sweating is a big part of what you do everyday, it helps.
I don't mind a little armpit hair, but I've seen so many guys who have armpit hair so long that it sticks out when they put their arms at their sides. Seriously, dudes, trim. It looks like you've got Buckwheat in a headlock.
THE LOST PLANET
10-04-2007, 12:51
I don't mind a little armpit hair, but I've seen so many guys who have armpit hair so long that it sticks out when they put their arms at their sides. Seriously, dudes, trim. It looks like you've got Buckwheat in a headlock.Damn you Bottle, not while I'm on lunch break. I just passed green tea through my nose...


I myself am lucky enough to only have serious hair on my head, my pubes and my armpits (I can't even grow a real beard)... I keep all three neatly trimmed...
The_pantless_hero
10-04-2007, 13:05
The only place I am conveniently losing hair is my head.
Genetics: 3. Me: 0
Bottle
10-04-2007, 13:06
Damn you Bottle, not while I'm on lunch break. I just passed green tea through my nose...

I guarantee that within a year or two this will become the new health fad. "Bathe your sinuses in healthful anti-oxidants like EGCG! Promote nasal wellness with a healing blend of ancient Chinese herbs, while savoring the soothing aromas!"
Russian Reversal
10-04-2007, 16:30
Are you darker- or fairer-haired? Usually these treatments are far more intensive on the former (although techniques have been developed to be just as effective on the latter), but can still be used to simply achieve a reduction rather than wholesale removal. Personally, I don't mind some body hair on myself or on another guy* (I find most fully smooth guys unappealing, to say the least) - I would, however, if I had it in excess.

*Sort of like this (http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8555/5173821551321895i3tt7.jpg).

Light skinned, dark haired.
Europa Maxima
10-04-2007, 21:12
Light skinned, dark haired.
Then it should be fairly easy to have it removed.
Mikesburg
10-04-2007, 21:25
That is a very sensible position to take. :D.

Well, I'm a big fan of sensible positions. Although, I'm not afraid to try out the insensible ones from time to time.

I don't mind a little armpit hair, but I've seen so many guys who have armpit hair so long that it sticks out when they put their arms at their sides. Seriously, dudes, trim. It looks like you've got Buckwheat in a headlock.

Yup. If you can braid it, it's time to shave it.
Lich King Azrael
10-04-2007, 22:11
It is not good to have hair anywhere but on the top chunk of your head.
Harlesburg
11-04-2007, 13:54
True story here, a high school friend of mine has hobbit feet. Hair all the way up his foot, not just the little bit on the toes. All the way up. Rather odd.
I was watching the 'Footy Show' once and someone sent in a photo of a man more hair than skin, damn greeks...

Also seen a picture of a hairy back guy with a heart shaved into it.
Scary...