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No; not on this forum, silly.

It's a political forum and, obviously, tempers will get quite flared in such a place, but nevertheless I don't feel it excuses his behaviour.

This is the worst example of his behaviour, but there are plenty of other occasions when he has resorted to insults and accusations.

On this occasion I was partially at fault; I over-reacted to his first post and from there it went downhill, but I still feel that his reaction was a bit out of line.

The entire thing is reproduced here with imperfect formatting but perfect replication of text; if you would read it and tell me who you think is at fault then I would be grateful. At the end I would also like some advice on how to deal with it; I really can't put up with his abuse but I don't want to leave the forums. :(

Worst Queen in British history. Handed Britain over on a platter, without even a whimper of protest.

I pray her grandchildren have more spine, because I doubt her son does.

Mod


What exactly do you expect her to do?!
Do you know anything of a democracy? Do you even understand the consequences if a monarch intervened?
Do you even know what you mean by handing over Britain on a platter?

Prove that you understand what you say, and then you'll have the right to complain!
Until then, shut up. At the moment your statement has no reasonable ground in fact.

Me

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What exactly do you expect her to do?!


What I do. Do something. ANYTHING!

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Do you know anything of a democracy?

Are you a retard?

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Do you even understand the consequences if a monarch intervened?

Nothing but good.

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Do you even know what you mean by handing over Britain on a platter?

That answers the first question for me, thanks.

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Prove that you understand what you say, and then you'll have the right to complain!

Who the f*** do you think you are? The Queen? Laughing

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Until then, shut up. At the moment your statement has no reasonable ground in fact.


My statement is 100% based on fact, unlike your nonsense. The Queen has presided over a series of governments lying to her subjects, handing over power under the veil of these lies and actually signing up to them.

She has failed in her corination oath in every way. She had remained silent as traitor after traitor has deceived and conived in giving MY country away.

Oh and by the way, telling a mod to shut up isn't the smartest thing to do, take that as a warning.

Mod

And suggesting that I am, in your words, 'a retard', is ok?
My, my. Now your true personality really begins to show, does it not?

And you still have not answered my questions, nor proven why my statements are nonsense.

Me

If you ask those retarded questions, what else I am supposed to think?

I'm not even going to dignify such idiocy with a propper reply.

Mod

Or is it because you are unable to answer?
Accusing other members of idiocy and implying that they are 'a retard' is not exactly the expected behaviour of a mod, and, indeed, could well be used to show that the one who did these things is an idiot!

If I get another warning so soon, then fine. Banning me would be completely out of proportion, as I have maintained proper conduct for the vast majority of my time at this forum.
As long as I can speak, I will continue to voice my opinion. As you will do with yours.
The difference is that I seem to be more mature, if somewhat passionate about certain subjects.

Me

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Or is it because you are unable to answer?


No. It's a bit like the reaction I give to a tramp, p****d out of his head, rambling incoherantly. I could try and answer his questions, put I choose not to, due the stench of beer and p*** + the fact it would acheive nothing, because he wouldn't be able to comprehend anyway.

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Accusing other members of idiocy and implying that they are 'a retard' is not exactly the expected behaviour of a mod, and, indeed, could well be used to show that the one who did these things is an idiot!


On the other hand they could be the spot on observations and response to a jumped up little arsehole who thinks he can come on a forum and start throwing his insignificant weight around, just becuase his love of the Queen has been offended.

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If I get another warning so soon, then fine. Banning me would be completely out of proportion, as I have maintained proper conduct for the vast majority of my time at this forum.

Now you think you can make the rules up around here. What mind boggling arrogance. Just telling me to shut up because you don't agree with my view on the Queen was enough to get you banned. Your lucky I'm a tolerant guy. You asked a retarded, yes retarded questions implying I don't undertand what I am saying deserved a ban too. Again you lucked out.

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As long as I can speak, I will continue to voice my opinion.

If your opinion is telling others to shut up and questioning their intelligence, don't expect to last much longer around here son.

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The difference is that I seem to be more mature, if somewhat passionate about certain subjects


The difference is you are an arrogant little oik, who doesn't realise that telloing people to shut up and questioning their intelligence isn't going to get them very far.

Mod

Any help would be gratefully accepted. I really can't put up with it much longer. :(

Ilaer

You're both being daft. There.

you have a civilized exchange of ideas, be polite, support you position, and don't expect to come to a common agreement.

at least thats what i'd do

Even Mods have superiors, the "greater gods" if you will. Speak to the Admins (and if they find his behavior innaproppriate and unmodlike) they will cast him from Olympus (or in this case the server) like Zeus did to Kratos in "God of War II".

I would also make certain to examine my own behavior before I go to them. I am not accusing you of anything, but it would look bad for you if you go to them, and you have any *ahem* "self-incriminating evidence".

No; not on this forum, silly.

It's a political forum and, obviously, tempers will get quite flared in such a place, but nevertheless I don't feel it excuses his behaviour.

This is the worst example of his behaviour, but there are plenty of other occasions when he has resorted to insults and accusations.

On this occasion I was partially at fault; I over-reacted to his first post and from there it went downhill, but I still feel that his reaction was a bit out of line.

The entire thing is reproduced here with imperfect formatting but perfect replication of text; if you would read it and tell me who you think is at fault then I would be grateful. At the end I would also like some advice on how to deal with it; I really can't put up with his abuse but I don't want to leave the forums. :(

Any help would be gratefully accepted. I really can't put up with it much longer. :(

Ilaer

Wow.

That makes even the, uh, grumpiest of our mods positively seem like angels.

Whoda thunk it.


I think your only options are
1) bite your tongue, ignore him as much as possible and try to stay away from him as much as possible so you don't give him another chance to talk to you at all.
2) leave the forums.

Personally (not knowing how long this has been going on or how frequent it is) I would try the former for a bit, fail, and then do the latter.

You're both being daft. There.

Yeah; I figured that. :(

you have a civilized exchange of ideas, be polite, support you position, and don't expect to come to a common agreement.

at least thats what i'd do

Even when one is civil towards him he will resort to insults.
My post was a rubbish example for this, though.

Ilaer

Quit the forum.

Clearly he's the worst kind of a mod - one on a power trip.

Furthermore, if he can actually justifiably ban you under the TOS for telling him to shut up and for 'asking retarded questions implying I don't understand what I'm talking about', then it's not really a forum you should spend any time on anyway. How are you meant to have a proper debate if you can't do that?

stop the needless bitching?

Do those forums have somebody higher up to appeal to, such as an owner?

Even Mods have superiors, the "greater gods" if you will. Speak to the Admins (and if they find his behavior innaproppriate and unmodlike) they will cast him from Olympus (or in this case the server) like Zeus did to Kratos in "God of War II".

I would also make certain to examine my own behavior before I go to them. I am not accusing you of anything, but it would look bad for you if you go to them, and you have any *ahem* "self-incriminating evidence".

This is the only scenario I can think of in which I have been partially to blame, and thus I posted it in order for a fairer view.
You could accuse me and I would accept it. I'm not perfect; no-one is.
And why should I hide 'self-incriminating' evidence? Surely if I did and the Admin found it nonetheless then I would be in rather major trouble?

Also, the Admin agrees with him. That option is thus destroyed.

Wow.

That makes even the, uh, grumpiest of our mods positively seem like angels.

Whoda thunk it.


I think your only options are
1) bite your tongue, ignore him as much as possible and try to stay away from him as much as possible so you don't give him another chance to talk to you at all.
2) leave the forums.

Personally (not knowing how long this has been going on or how frequent it is) I would try the former for a bit, fail, and then do the latter.

The first is what I've been trying to do, with no successful results, and as for the second option: I like the forum in general; there are some decent mods and several people there whom I rather like talking to and for whom I have the greatest respect.
It's like NSG but less random.

Ilaer

stop the needless bitching?

Which I have done.

Ilaer

Furthermore, if he can actually justifiably ban you under the TOS for telling him to shut up and for 'asking retarded questions implying I don't understand what I'm talking about', then it's not really a forum you should spend any time on anyway. How are you meant to have a proper debate if you can't do that?
That's what irked me most, the "Oh and by the way, telling a mod to shut up isn't the smartest thing to do, take that as a warning."
The fuck?

Here, our moderators debate as ordinary posters and moderate as moderators, some even use different puppets solely for debates.

Anything else is just fucked up.

Calling each other stupid was a bad idea. Try and reason with him without further insulting him, and maybe he'll stop insulting you. If he doesn't, I would get help from admin that have power over the mod. That way, you can say that you tried to be "nice" and just talk about the subject while he was being an ass.

Bah, who needs the headache?

Hell with 'em.

You're both being daft. There.

I would have said douchebags, but hear hear.

I would have said douchebags, but hear hear.

You're both being daft. There.Oh please, I would have liked to hear what you two, of all people, would have said to a mod who talked to you like that over something like this.

Which I have done.

Ilaer

then you should be fine.

either they allow mods to abuse regular members or they dont.

if they do, you are shit out of luck. go about your business and if you get banned for it, so be it. dont change your behavior just so you can stay on a particular forum. its not like you are a disagreeable person. if they cant take a bit of criticism now and then, fuck them--force them to ban you.

if they dont, you can complain. dont complain until you really have something to complain about. a few threats from a mod are best ignored unless he follows through on them.

You're both being daft. There.

QFTruthery

Oh please, I would have liked to hear what you two, of all people, would have said to a mod who talked to you like that over something like this.

They do have a point.
On that thread my behaviour was not exactly at its most civilized, as you can see from my posts shown (all my posts in that thread; I boycotted it afterwards).

Ilaer

What did you expect from a bloody monarchist?

What did you expect from a bloody monarchist?

Who is that directed at?
I'm the monarchist in the discussion/debate/argument/flaming row.
He says that he used to be but is now against the monarchy.

Ilaer

Who is that directed at?
I'm the monarchist in the discussion/debate/argument/flaming row.
He says that he used to be but is now against the monarchy.

Ilaer

My apologies, but to my American (proverbial) ears this sounded like an argument about the desirability and utility of a figurehead monarch actually intervening in the functions of the British government. You seem to be on the more rational and realistic side f it, and the other fellow actually seems to believe in kings, queens and unicorns.

My apologies, but to my American (proverbial) ears this sounded like an argument about the desirability and utility of a figurehead monarch actually intervening in the functions of the British government. You seem to be on the more rational and realistic side f it, and the other fellow actually seems to believe in kings, queens and unicorns.

I thank you for the compliment in that (the 'rational' bit).
It is a debate mainly about what you stated, now that I think about it; I never actually considered that at the time.

Ilaer

You were being rude, but that does not excuse that mod's behaviour. I would read the forum rules and see if you were violating any rules. If you weren't, then see if it possible to appeal to the admins. I would also check if what the mod was doing counts as flaming in your forum's rules as well.

I'll also back you up in your argument too.

You were being rude, but that does not excuse that mod's behaviour. I would read the forum rules and see if you were violating any rules. If you weren't, then see if it possible to appeal to the admins. I would also check if what the mod was doing counts as flaming in your forum's rules as well.

I'll also back you up in your argument too.

Thank you.

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Ilaer

The problem with actual monarchy is that when a monarch wields that sort of power, he (or she in this case) is generally the one selling the country to the interests that the monarch represents. IMHO there is no salvation from on high. The Caudillo may ride in on a white horse, but he inevitably rides away on a pale horse. No sort of ruler can save a people from the ills of the state.

Yeah, you were both being hotheaded, but the mod actually pulled rank. This is in my opinion (as a former mod on other forums) inexcusable and counterproductive.

My two cents:

The mod is a muppet. One who doesn't begin to understand constitutional monarchy, yet still feels the need to argue about it. He lost the argument, and made a dick of himself into the bargain.

If telling idiots to shut up is unreasonable, then it's a form of unreasonableness which I'm frequently guilty of myself.

Thank you.

The forum rules, for anyone who's interested (the only place I could find them was on the registration page):


Ilaer
It's bad that they don't give you any more information - the info the mods have given us here is quite extensive. If I'm honest, I'll say that you both violated the rules then, and the mod then pulled rank. IMHO that's not behaviour I'd expect from a mod. Since there's no more information, I'd keep on the forum but avoid this git again in future. If S/he does anything again like this in the future, I'd consider finding an email address for another mod or admin. (Because you're using their personal email, I wouldn't do this first time.) Tell them what happened, admit you were wrong on that occasion too, but politely object to the way you were dealt with unprofessionally.

Just remember you always have the helpful mods on NS to look to as a role model. Where is Tactical Grace these days?

It's bad that they don't give you any more information - the info the mods have given us here is quite extensive. If I'm honest, I'll say that you both violated the rules then, and the mod then pulled rank. IMHO that's not behaviour I'd expect from a mod. Since there's no more information, I'd keep on the forum but avoid this git again in future. If S/he does anything again like this in the future, I'd consider finding an email address for another mod or admin. (Because you're using their personal email, I wouldn't do this first time.) Tell them what happened, admit you were wrong on that occasion too, but politely object to the way you were dealt with unprofessionally.

Just remember you always have the helpful mods on NS to look to as a role model. Where is Tactical Grace these days?

It is more than a bit lacking in detail, I agree.
I also agree that I violated the rules in this thread; much of what I posted was written on pure adrenaline, something which I've tried to avoid since, although it happened once recently on this very forum.
One reason that I don't really want to report anything to any of the other mods or the admin is because I have no idea about their process of doing things; if they discuss it between themselves then it's not too good, is it?
Thank you for the advice, though.
As with all the advice on this thread I am very much grateful for it.

Ilaer

much of what I posted was written on pure adrenaline,

Big mistake - when in doubt, take a five minute break. Still, I think the mod should have had the experience and/or maturity to tell you to chill out without resorting to open abuse. Otherwise, why is he or she a mod?

Big mistake - when in doubt, take a five minute break. Still, I think the mod should have had the experience and/or maturity to tell you to chill out without resorting to open abuse. Otherwise, why is he or she a mod?

By virtue of being one of the oldest and most prolific posters.
I realise now that it was a mistake; sadly, one does not think rationally when in such a state.

Ilaer

Introduce the mod to NSG...he'll have a nervous breakdown.

By virtue of being one of the oldest and most prolific posters.

Heh, bit like when the grownup tells you to respect your elders. Apparently, because their date of birth is before yours, it stands to reason that they must be in the right. Most uncool.

Heh, bit like when the grownup tells you to respect your elders. Apparently, because their date of birth is before yours, it stands to reason that they must be in the right. Most uncool.

As I like to say: one does not demand respect, one earns it.

Ilaer

No; not on this forum, silly.

It's a political forum and, obviously, tempers will get quite flared in such a place, but nevertheless I don't feel it excuses his behaviour.

This is the worst example of his behaviour, but there are plenty of other occasions when he has resorted to insults and accusations.

On this occasion I was partially at fault; I over-reacted to his first post and from there it went downhill, but I still feel that his reaction was a bit out of line.

The entire thing is reproduced here with imperfect formatting but perfect replication of text; if you would read it and tell me who you think is at fault then I would be grateful. At the end I would also like some advice on how to deal with it; I really can't put up with his abuse but I don't want to leave the forums. :(

Any help would be gratefully accepted. I really can't put up with it much longer. :(

Ilaer

This guy's a pathetic piece of shit. How'd he get to be a mod?

This guy's a pathetic piece of shit. How'd he get to be a mod?


Same way George Bush got to be President.

Just remember you always have the helpful mods on NS to look to as a role model. Where is Tactical Grace these days?
He left. Although I believe he's coming to the meet-up on Saturday.

By virtue of being one of the oldest and most prolific posters.
*imagines what NS would be like if mods were chosen like that*

*imagines Kanabia as a mod*

:eek: :eek: :eek:

j/k...Kanabia would probably be quite a good mod, if maybe a bit lazy...;)

What a ****...should not be a mod. It is obvious that he is piss ignorant and unintelligent.

What a ****...should not be a mod. It is obvious that he is piss ignorant and unintelligent.

Well, he does have some grounds for his reaction, as I was not exactly very polite myself.

Ilaer

Well, he does have some grounds for his reaction, as I was not exactly very polite myself.

Ilaer

Monarchists and patriots don't deserve the time of day ;)

Monarchists and patriots don't deserve the time of day ;)

Why, thank you very much! :D

Oh, and in response to all of you: I've decided to take a brief period of rest from those forums. The personal abuse is getting quite high again and, though I have been and continue to be as calm and civil as I can since that thread, I'm unsure as to whether or not I'd be able to keep it up, bearing in mind that now some other members have joined in on the personal attacks on me in particular.
Sadly, such a thing is all too common on that forum.

Ilaer

Also TG me the link. I'm now interested and have to see this for myself. May even sign up and help you against those ebil mods.

Also TG me the link. I'm now interested and have to see this for myself. May even sign up and help you against those ebil mods.

I'm a bit doubtful as to how wise this move would be; it's one of the reasons that I purposely didn't post the forum's name or any of the member's names.
To put it frankly, I'm actually quite afraid of this mod. I mean that literally. I love those forums as a good place to go for a debate and chat with some of the nicer members, but if that mod finds out that I'm asking for help in dealing with him then I don't think I'd even be in his bad books any more.
I wouldn't be in any books at all.

Ilaer

Same way George Bush got to be President.

That's one way of looking at it.

To put it frankly, I'm actually quite afraid of this mod. I mean that literally. I love those forums as a good place to go for a debate and chat with some of the nicer members, but if that mod finds out that I'm asking for help in dealing with him then I don't think I'd even be in his bad books any more.
I wouldn't be in any books at all.


Don't let some arsewipe determine your actions.
That's free advice - my life got a hell of a lot simpler a couple of years ago when I decided I'd start operating a strict 'zero tolerance of arsewipes' policy.

Okay, he may get you banned from the forum. But hey, if you're living in fear of that happening anyway, the forum is going to lost value for you in no time.

Don't let some arsewipe determine your actions.
That's free advice - my life got a hell of a lot simpler a couple of years ago when I decided I'd start operating a strict 'zero tolerance of arsewipes' policy.

Okay, he may get you banned from the forum. But hey, if you're living in fear of that happening anyway, the forum is going to lost value for you in no time.

That is a good point.
But then my pristine record on forums (apart from one deleted thread here and one warning there) will be destroyed. :)

Ilaer

I'd say if the issue can't be resolved by talking to the admins, simply completely ignore anything he says. Better yet, put him on ignore, if possible. It couldn't possibly be a breach of rules to not pay attention to the mods bullshit.

I'd say if the issue can't be resolved by talking to the admins, simply completely ignore anything he says. Better yet, put him on ignore, if possible. It couldn't possibly be a breach of rules to not pay attention to the mods bullshit.

Forums are a dime a dozen. I was once a regular participant on an NDE forum, and someone actually started their own (free) forum hosting as a response to some perceived controlling behaviour by one of the mods.

That particular poster was a prolific and popular one, though, so many of the original forum's participants ended up having accounts on both. :cool:

Moderators on well-run forums have extensive rules that aren't always visible to regular posters. In the case of NationStates, we've got several thousand words on demeanor and acceptable behavior that we are expected to follow or have our modly powers stripped. We're also blessed with three open-minded admins (Max, [violet], and SalusaSecundus) who are adamant about allowing speech that may not fit the standard demographic, as long as it fits within our fairly broad guidelines of acceptable behavior.

I'm an admin on one other forum, and the owner is a kindred spirit to Max and Co. It's a bit more free-wheeling and adult than this one, but the same principles apply. We've got an extensive hidden ruleset that's far more restrictive than most players would believe. That's the way good forums handle this.

In your case, you're missing those key figures that provide the ethical core for the mods. I've always ended up abandoning those sort of places, regardless of how interesting the discussions were. If I had good friends (or opponents) there, I'd invite them to wherever I headed next. Ultimately, all such powertrippers are doomed to failure, kings only of their solo domains. Kinda like a NS Hermit, now that I think about it.

It's time to move on.

I'm an admin on one other forum, and the owner is a kindred spirit to Max and Co. It's a bit more free-wheeling and adult than this one, but the same principles apply. We've got an extensive hidden ruleset that's far more restrictive than most players would believe. That's the way good forums handle this.

Would it be a conflict of interest to name that other forum? I am sometimes frustrated by the (admittedly loose) restrictions of NSG :eek:

Moderators on well-run forums have extensive rules that aren't always visible to regular posters. In the case of NationStates, we've got several thousand words on demeanor and acceptable behavior that we are expected to follow or have our modly powers stripped. We're also blessed with three open-minded admins (Max, [violet], and SalusaSecundus) who are adamant about allowing speech that may not fit the standard demographic, as long as it fits within our fairly broad guidelines of acceptable behavior.

I'm an admin on one other forum, and the owner is a kindred spirit to Max and Co. It's a bit more free-wheeling and adult than this one, but the same principles apply. We've got an extensive hidden ruleset that's far more restrictive than most players would believe. That's the way good forums handle this.

In your case, you're missing those key figures that provide the ethical core for the mods. I've always ended up abandoning those sort of places, regardless of how interesting the discussions were. If I had good friends (or opponents) there, I'd invite them to wherever I headed next. Ultimately, all such powertrippers are doomed to failure, kings only of their solo domains. Kinda like a NS Hermit, now that I think about it.

It's time to move on.

AHA! So [violet] is NOT Max Barry!

*coughs*
Well, it is something like the first real confirmation (that I've heard of).

Ilaer

I suppose you're right though. I might leave that forum at some point soon if it carries on, then.
I just don't want to.

I'm addicted to forums.

Ilaer

I suppose you're right though. I might leave that forum at some point soon if it carries on, then.
I just don't want to.

I'm addicted to forums.

Ilaer

I'm sorry, I can't helpt it, but it's a peeve of mine...

I deliberately have sigs turned off so I don't have to see the repetitious crap we all put into them. But I don't have the choice to avoid the repetition of your poster name at the end of everything you post.

Is it really necessary? We truly already know who you are.

Just consider it please, thanks, etc.

I'm sorry, I can't helpt it, but it's a peeve of mine...

I deliberately have sigs turned off so I don't have to see the repetitious crap we all put into them. But I don't have the choice to avoid the repetition of your poster name at the end of everything you post.

Is it really necessary? We truly already know who you are.

Just consider it please, thanks, etc.

I told him it was masturbatory! He didn't believe me :(

I'm sorry, I can't helpt it, but it's a peeve of mine...

I deliberately have sigs turned off so I don't have to see the repetitious crap we all put into them. But I don't have the choice to avoid the repetition of your poster name at the end of everything you post.

Is it really necessary? We truly already know who you are.

Just consider it please, thanks, etc.

He could be Max.

I'm sorry, I can't helpt it, but it's a peeve of mine...

I deliberately have sigs turned off so I don't have to see the repetitious crap we all put into them. But I don't have the choice to avoid the repetition of your poster name at the end of everything you post.

Is it really necessary? We truly already know who you are.

Just consider it please, thanks, etc.

Speaking of sigs:

Ilaer, yours is gonna die!! It's way >8 lines :)

1) Grow up.

2) Grow a thicker skin.

3) Stop posting on the forum run by those mods if you don't like the way they run it.

Speaking of sigs:

Ilaer, yours is gonna die!! It's way >8 lines :)

Argh! I could've sworn it was less when I typed it...

1) Grow up.

2) Grow a thicker skin.

3) Stop posting on the forum run by those mods if you don't like the way they run it.

1. How do I need to grow up? Have I not admitted that I was in the wrong as well?
2. It's easy enough to say that. Difficult to do.
3. A bad moderator does not a bad forum make.

Ilaer

I'm sorry, I can't helpt it, but it's a peeve of mine...

I deliberately have sigs turned off so I don't have to see the repetitious crap we all put into them. But I don't have the choice to avoid the repetition of your poster name at the end of everything you post.

Is it really necessary? We truly already know who you are.

Just consider it please, thanks, etc.

Do I really have to? It's a tradition of mine...
I'll try it on this post.

I told him it was masturbatory! He didn't believe me :(

Perhaps because I don't get sexual pleasure from it?

He could be Max.

If I were Max then surely my sig wouldn't be in danger? :D
I changed it anyway to avoid having it changed for me.

Do I really have to? It's a tradition of mine...
I'll try it on this post.



Perhaps because I don't get sexual pleasure from it?



If I were Max then surely my sig wouldn't be in danger? :D
I changed it anyway to avoid having it changed for me.... Good boy! *throws you a bone* :)

Nice to see the name has disapeared from the bottom of your posts.

But yeah... whilst the mod is a crap mod, your weren't exactly the paragon of the ideal forum poster. My advice, lead him into posting abuse at you by just using a well reasoned, but persistant argument, and then take that to the admins.

... Good boy! *throws you a bone* :)

Nice to see the name has disapeared from the bottom of your posts.

But yeah... whilst the mod is a crap mod, your weren't exactly the paragon of the ideal forum poster. My advice, lead him into posting abuse at you by just using a well reasoned, but persistant argument, and then take that to the admins.

As I have admitted many a time, I was also to blame.
As I said earlier, though, this moderator resorts to personal abuse even when one is civil towards him and, despite complaints having already been made by some other posters, the admin has done nothing.

It's going to take a while to get used to not signing my posts...

As I have admitted many a time, I was also to blame.
As I said earlier, though, this moderator resorts to personal abuse even when one is civil towards him and, despite complaints having already been made by some other posters, the admin has done nothing.

It's going to take a while to get used to not signing my posts...Create a new forum and message all the people you like on the forum to where the new forum is then. Otherwise spend more time in NSG you heathen.

Create a new forum and message all the people you like on the forum to where the new forum is then. Otherwise spend more time in NSG you heathen.

I might do that actually...
Hey, NSG is open as a Firefox tab from the very moment I open Firefox to the moment I close it. I'm considering setting it as a homepage, and I refresh at least every five minutes anyway. :D

I might do that actually...
Hey, NSG is open as a Firefox tab from the very moment I open Firefox to the moment I close it. I'm considering setting it as a homepage, and I refresh at least every five minutes anyway. :D

Just make sure to remember to sign into your nation every now and again, or you might find yourself unexpectedly banned. :p

Just make sure to remember to sign into your nation every now and again, or you might find yourself unexpectedly banned. :p

Gah...
That's the one thing I always forget.

Who cares about NationStates when you have NationStates General? :D

Gah...
That's the one thing I always forget.

Who cares about NationStates when you have NationStates General? :DFor comparing figurative cock sizes... duh. 8 billion play things and counting. :)

That's what irked me most, the "Oh and by the way, telling a mod to shut up isn't the smartest thing to do, take that as a warning."
The fuck?

Here, our moderators debate as ordinary posters and moderate as moderators, some even use different puppets solely for debates.

Anything else is just fucked up.
Oh i seem to recall Stephistan doing that once.
That or i just made Libel
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