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I just wondered how fundamentalist you are regarding to your religion or your weltanschauung or philosophy. I do not mean to insult religion here. There can be fundamentalist atheists as well and I think I am rather fundamentalist regarding open source :)

poll coming.

I just wondered how fundamentalist you are regarding to your religion or your weltanschauung or philosophy. I do not mean to insult religion here. There can be fundamentalist atheists as well and I think I am rather fundamentalist regarding open source :)

poll coming.

I am going to start bashing people who put Myrth on a poll with a staff.

...hehehe...bash a poll with a pole...

Anyway, to answer the question: I am firmly convinced that there is no God and all religions are false, so I suppose you could toss me in the absolute truth catagory.

my religion is drinking, my church is the pub, my altar is the bartop, my prophets are the bartenders, my gods are the many coloured taps and optics, the afterlife is a sea of booze. i take this very seriously, i suppose one could call me a fundamentalist.

Aren't all athiests fundementalist?

Trilby63;12524118']Aren't all athiests fundementalist?
I would not think so... there are people who can tolerate religion.

I would not think so... there are people who can tolerate religion.

...just not a lot of them? You know, atheist religion-tolerators?

Trilby63;12524118']Aren't all athiests fundementalist?Kind of, although the only fundamental teaching they adhere to is that god is a lie. Which is rather not a belief, but a conclusion.

Reply to make a sig-story.

I would not think so... there are people who can tolerate religion.

What's that got to do with anything?


All I mean is that the lack of belief in god is fundamantal to being an athiest and as all athiests follow this fundamental they are all fundamentalists..

I just wondered how fundamentalist you are regarding to your religion or your weltanschauung or philosophy. I do not mean to insult religion here. There can be fundamentalist atheists as well and I think I am rather fundamentalist regarding open source :)

poll coming.

Other: there is only one truth, but it is impossible to know precisely - the best we can do is to make more and more accurate models of the universe using the scientific method.

my religion is drinking, my church is the pub, my altar is the bartop, my prophets are the bartenders, my gods are the many coloured taps and optics, the afterlife is a sea of booze. i take this very seriously, i suppose one could call me a fundamentalist.

If I still drank I'd take buy you a beer. Would a cup of coffee be ok?

Kind of, although the only fundamental teaching they adhere to is that god is a lie. Which is rather not a belief, but a conclusion.

I wouldn't say god is a lie...I mean, I sincerely think they believe what they're saying. The only fundamental bit in atheism is there is no god.

Atheism, the systematic rejection of religious institution, belief, and practice; and the belief or conclusion that there is unequivocally no higher power, requires one fundamental principle - absolute acceptance of the nonexistence of God. Anything less then that absolute, is no longer Atheist. Some have more "fundamentals" then that, but the one is necessary. By nature, Atheism precludes ALL other possibilities, and leaves room for no doubt or exceptions. The possibility of a higher power completely undermines the only fundamental Atheists need, thus placing them squarely in the "Absolute Truth" category of fundamentalism.

It's strange how few actually stick to their guns, so to speak, and actually follow through on building a world view completely devoid of a God. Most are content to just not like the fellow very much.

As long as your beliefs don't get in the way of my goals, I don't really care what you think.

I wouldn't say god is a lie...I mean, I sincerely think they believe what they're saying....Does belief make the issue of belief exist?

im not a fundametalist by any streach

Does belief make the issue of belief exist?

But that doesn't mean they're lying...it just means you think they're wrong...

I just wondered how fundamentalist you are regarding to your religion or your weltanschauung or philosophy. I do not mean to insult religion here. There can be fundamentalist atheists as well and I think I am rather fundamentalist regarding open source :)

poll coming.

Not that much at all; I'm very much an agnostic.

Ilaer

I'm fundamentally opposed to bigots and idiots. Although I'll forgive idiots, but not bigots. On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the most fundamental in this regard, I'd say I'm a 9.5. Because sometimes I'm tired.

If I still drank I'd take buy you a beer. Would a cup of coffee be ok?

does it have whisky in it? my religion doesn't allow me to consume non-alcoholic beverages on a sunday.

I'm certainly not the most liberal with my faith, but there's a lot that doesn't make me a fundamentialist either.

I am a born-again, fundamentalist agnostic. I believe in the literal interpretation of facts and that some truths (if, indeed, they are truths) are unknowable.

I think I am fundamentalist by definition, it's not that I am not open to other opinion, but it would have to be really good to change my mind. I feel that I believe what I do because I find it to be true.......it's not something that is going to change without a lot of convincing....not that I don't put some critical thought into it from time to time, just to make sure.

I go with the flow.

I honestly don't think I am at all. I know my opinions and views on most issues, but I'm usually open to new ideas and opposing arguments. I've shifted position on a few issues over the years after hearing particularly compelling arguments in favour of an idea I may originally been opposed to, or against the opinion I originally held. So I don't think I'm particularly fundamentalist in that regard, but, then again, there are some issues I know I will never change my opinion on.

Voted for absolute truth.

VFT!

But that doesn't mean they're lying...it just means you think they're wrong...this has nothing to do with me. and believing in god still does not make him exist. faith is futile.

I don't really have a consistent philosophy to be fundamentalist about, but I don't think "the truth can be found in most places." In fact, I tend to think the vast majority of humans and by association human ideas are wrong.

I'm fundamentalist about a lot of people being wrong, though I wouldn't say I'm positively 100% right. How's that?

I do not believe anything that cannot be proven. This would make me a fundamentalist-realist.

i do have a certain absolute blind faith in the existence of ignorance.

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I just wondered how fundamentalist you are regarding to your religion or your weltanschauung or philosophy.

I merely assume that I'm right until I find (or I am given) proof/serious hint that I'm wrong. In that case, I change my mind, and resume thinking that I'm right.

D'uh.

Trilby63;12524118']Aren't all athiests fundementalist?

Fundamentalism is the belief that one's religious texts are literally true as opposed to figuratively true. Fundamentalists may believe that they are metaphorically true, but not believe that they are literally true.

i.e. They may see the story of Christ as that of a person who is very satisfied with life and has no need of material wealth because they have learned to concern themselves with larger issues which cannot be threatened by the death of any one person. Including themselves. They just don't believe that by drinking wine that has been turned into his blood will let you live in a magic box in the sky (the Bible says that heaven is a cube, and gives specific measurements.)

This makes atheists the opposite of fundamentalists even more than it makes them the opposite of theists.

I don't really have a consistent philosophy to be fundamentalist about, but I don't think "the truth can be found in most places." In fact, I tend to think the vast majority of humans and by association human ideas are wrong.

I'm fundamentalist about a lot of people being wrong, though I wouldn't say I'm positively 100% right. How's that?

The truth can be found among liars. It's like atonal jazz. You have to listen to the truth they're not telling.

Like when I read a Wall Street Journal or New York Post editorial I can be pretty sure that the opposite of what they say is a good idea. Even when it looks like they make sense, a little digging almost always reveals that the editorial is full of it.

It's like that puzzle with the two towns. One is full of liars, the other is full of people who tell the truth. On the way there, you come to a fork in the road with a guy coming the other way. If you want to get to the town full of truth-tellers, how do you know if you can trust the guy to direct you to the right one? If he's from the liars' town he will be sure to misdirect you.
Answer, ask the guy which town he comes from. Even if he comes from the town of liars, he will direct you to the correct town.

I believe that the Torah is the word of G-d, though some of it (ie the creation account) He wrote in metaphors.

my religion is drinking, my church is the pub, my altar is the bartop, my prophets are the bartenders, my gods are the many coloured taps and optics, the afterlife is a sea of booze.

I've found the Lord!!! :D

I do believe in my religion as much as I believe in anything. By which I mean, for all I know, I'm just a brain in a vat, and everyone I've ever met is simply a sensory construct created by a mad scientist.

In a world where there can be no concrete empirical truth, how can one be fundamentally sure of anything?

I'm like the use of weltanschauung. :)

I'll tell you my beliefs!

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I for one, do not believe I have all the answers or that my beliefs or lack of beliefs are anything special. I truly do not know if there is a supream being or not or if the secrets of the universe can be devulged though empirical evidence so I just pick and choose what I believe in. So no, I really couldn't call myself a fundamentalist.

Why is there a dollar sign next to the middle ground option?? :confused: