NationStates Jolt Archive

On this sunny and chilly (up here anyway) I thought I might ask if you believe in the physical resurrection, or a spiritual resurrection, or none at all.

Therefore, we say that the meaning of Christ's resurrection is as follows: the disciples were troubled and agitated after the martyrdom of Christ. The Reality of Christ, which signifies His teachings, His bounties, His perfections and His spiritual power, was hidden and concealed for two or three days after His martyrdom, and was not resplendent and manifest. No, rather it was lost, for the believers were few in number and were troubled and agitated. The Cause of Christ was like a lifeless body; and when after three days the disciples became assured and steadfast, and began to serve the Cause of Christ, and resolved to spread the divine teachings, putting His counsels into practice, and arising to serve Him, the Reality of Christ became resplendent and His bounty appeared; His religion found life; His teachings and His admonitions became evident and visible. In other words, the Cause of Christ was like a lifeless body until the life and the bounty of the Holy Spirit surrounded it.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, p. 104)

Came back as a vampire, clearly.

Only six people think I am an idiot, not bad.;)

Only six people think I am an idiot, not bad.;)

Correction, nine do and it'll get higher then lower then flat line then higher then flat line again by thread's end.

Is this the lineup to the breakfast buffet?

Therefore, we say that the meaning of Christ's resurrection is as follows: the disciples were troubled and agitated after the martyrdom of Christ. The Reality of Christ, which signifies His teachings, His bounties, His perfections and His spiritual power, was hidden and concealed for two or three days after His martyrdom, and was not resplendent and manifest. No, rather it was lost, for the believers were few in number and were troubled and agitated. The Cause of Christ was like a lifeless body; and when after three days the disciples became assured and steadfast, and began to serve the Cause of Christ, and resolved to spread the divine teachings, putting His counsels into practice, and arising to serve Him, the Reality of Christ became resplendent and His bounty appeared; His religion found life; His teachings and His admonitions became evident and visible. In other words, the Cause of Christ was like a lifeless body until the life and the bounty of the Holy Spirit surrounded it.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, p. 104)
This is good stuff. But this idea doesn't really necessitate resurrection save in a desire to permit the fulfilment of Jesus's predictions. We can equally state that the Reality of the Christ of the disciples, revealed entirely to them during his life, was never fully dead; it merely was bedridden while the shock and despair over the death of the physical Jesus still lingered in them. Certainly, it can be said to be a sort of recovery from near-fatal illness, but had the spirit been dead, the Disciples would not then have had the conviction (or even the required memory of his life and words) to carry out with its revival.

(And I didn't answer the poll. There's wisdom here, but I really don't think it's resurrection of either sort. The Body is still dust, while the spirit is much the same as it was prior to the physical death.)

Is this the lineup to the breakfast buffet?

Sorry my friend you came too late for breakfast. Would you care for some Easter turkey? EASTER TURKEY--yuck!!!!

Correction, nine do and it'll get higher then lower then flat line then higher then flat line again by thread's end.

Looks like you are correct in your assessment. Nice job.:)

This is good stuff. But this idea doesn't really necessitate resurrection save in a desire to permit the fulfilment of Jesus's predictions. We can equally state that the Reality of the Christ of the disciples, revealed entirely to them during his life, was never fully dead; it merely was bedridden while the shock and despair over the death of the physical Jesus still lingered in them. Certainly, it can be said to be a sort of recovery from near-fatal illness, but had the spirit been dead, the Disciples would not then have had the conviction (or even the required memory of his life and words) to carry out with its revival.

(And I didn't answer the poll. There's wisdom here, but I really don't think it's resurrection of either sort. The Body is still dust, while the spirit is much the same as it was prior to the physical death.)


The body is still dust, no doubt. The Spirit was lost before the disciples were reinvigorated and "born again"-- if you will.