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From the Detroit News (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070407/AUTO01/704070338/1148) (found through StumbleUpon):


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Plug it in, fire it up, Mr. President
The Detroit News

Credit Ford Motor Co. CEO Alan Mulally with saving the leader of the free world from self-immolation.

Mulally told journalists at the New York auto show that he intervened to prevent President Bush from plugging an electrical cord into the hydrogen tank of Ford's hydrogen-electric plug-in hybrid at the White House last week. Ford wanted to give the Commander-in-Chief an actual demonstration of the innovative vehicle, so the automaker arranged for an electrical outlet to be installed on the South Lawn and ran a charging cord to the hybrid. However, as Mulally followed Bush out to the car, he noticed someone had left the cord lying at the rear of the vehicle, near the fuel tank.

"I just thought, 'Oh my goodness!' So, I started walking faster, and the President walked faster and he got to the cord before I did. I violated all the protocols. I touched the President. I grabbed his arm and I moved him up to the front," Mulally said. "I wanted the president to make sure he plugged into the electricity, not into the hydrogen This is all off the record, right?"

Note Cheney standing right behind Mulally.

What could have been... :p

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Bush and Cheney killed by a hydrogen-electric hybrid vehicle would have been such stunning and delicious irony. :p

Obviously more proof that the environmental lobby has murderous intentions towards Dear Leader.

And another chance for world improvement has been wasted...

If Ford wanted to give a demonstration of an electrical vehicle, why didn't they charge it up before they got there?

If he were trying to plug it into a pretzel, he could have been killed.

President Bush needs one of those cars to save the world environment.

heh!

Think what harm it could have done to the reputation of alternative fuels if Bush had been killed. I don't think there's any reason to doubt that the lack of explosion was a good thing.

Think what harm it could have done to the reputation of alternative fuels if Bush had been killed. I don't think there's any reason to doubt that the lack of explosion was a good thing.
Pfft.

They would have been utterly and completely worshipped by the vast majority of the world.

Pfft.

They would have been utterly and completely worshipped by the vast majority of the world.
You mean you don't already worship Ford? Traitor to capitalism! [/sarcasm]

I told my parents about this and my dad started a tirade about how this should have occurred and how Bush needs to be taken out by any means necessary and how if he had the opportunity to take Bush out he would do it without a thought. I tried to point out that by doing this he'd be no better than Bush regardless of the reasons but dad would have none of that.

...my dad can be such a fool...

Pfft.

They would have been utterly and completely worshipped by the vast majority of the world.

Ford: The Car That Killed the President.

We need to resort to... Plan B.

Ford: The Car That Killed the President.

That's just like him, you know. He got a taste of the Presidency and just wouldn't let it go, so now that he's dead he will haunt all Presidents from the grave.

Agerias: It's about 60 years too late for that.

ZOMG,I read the title as We were THIS close to having President Posi...


:eek:

*faints*

ZOMG,I read the title as We were THIS close to having President Posi...


:eek:

*faints*
Oh please...Posi would just laze around doing absolutely nothing, except maybe hand control of the government over to Canada.

No, what we'd need to fear is a President Eve Online, or a President Myrmidonesia.

I told my parents about this and my dad started a tirade about how this should have occurred and how Bush needs to be taken out by any means necessary and how if he had the opportunity to take Bush out he would do it without a thought. I tried to point out that by doing this he'd be no better than Bush regardless of the reasons but dad would have none of that.

...my dad can be such a fool...

Of course he'd be better than the president.

The same way that the President is better than Hitler. George Bush's concentration camps have only held a few thousand prisoners, Hitlers held millions.

Hitler killed 12 million of his prisoners. Bush only killed a few hundred.

Hitler's war killed millions of soldiers and innocent civilians. Bush's war has, so far, only killed a few hundred thousand.

Your dad would only have killed one person. That would make your dad several million times better than Hitler, and several hundred thousand times better than the president on the killing people score. And infinitly superior to both on the kidnapping and torturing innocent people score.

Of course he'd be better than the president.

The same way that the President is better than Hitler. George Bush's concentration camps have only held a few thousand prisoners, Hitlers held millions.

Hitler killed 12 million of his prisoners. Bush only killed a few hundred.

Hitler's war killed millions of soldiers and innocent civilians. Bush's war has, so far, only killed a few hundred thousand.

Your dad would only have killed one person. That would make your dad several million times better than Hitler, and several hundred thousand times better than the president on the killing people score. And infinitly superior to both on the kidnapping and torturing innocent people score.

Bullshit. He would have dropped to the same level. He would be no better because when it comes down to it he would be willing to use the exact same methods to achieve his ends. I do not care what anyone has done, I will NOT allow anyone to drop to the level of the person comitting the deed simply to stop that person. One does not abandon one's morals when they become inconvenient.

Oh please...Posi would just laze around doing absolutely nothing, except maybe hand control of the government over to Canada.

No, what we'd need to fear is a President Eve Online, or a President Myrmidonesia.

THAT'S NOT FUNNY! DON'T EVEN JOKE ABOUT SUCH A THING! :eek:

Bush and Cheney killed by a hydrogen-electric hybrid vehicle would have been such stunning and delicious irony. :p The Irony would kill people alone.

From the Detroit News (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070407/AUTO01/704070338/1148) (found through StumbleUpon):



Note Cheney standing right behind Mulally.

What could have been... :p

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Now that's an ignoble almost-death.

And another chance for world improvement has been wasted...

For once, I agree with you.

Oh please...Posi would just laze around doing absolutely nothing, except maybe hand control of the government over to Canada.

No, what we'd need to fear is a President Eve Online, or a President Myrmidonesia.
*Thunder rolls, en cue*

And no, it's not rolling a joint on top of a giant snooker cue...

It's all part of a conspiracy.

Bullshit. He would have dropped to the same level. He would be no better because when it comes down to it he would be willing to use the exact same methods to achieve his ends. I do not care what anyone has done, I will NOT allow anyone to drop to the level of the person comitting the deed simply to stop that person. One does not abandon one's morals when they become inconvenient.

That is a very myopic view. Fighting to defend the innocent has been seen as a morally virtuous act since the dawn of human reason. There is a difference between killing for your own ends and killing to end the violence caused by others.

And there's the simple math that you're overlooking. Killing 100 people is a hundred times worse than killing one person.

I tried to point out that by doing this he'd be no better than Bush

your dad has caused one of the greatest humanitarian crises of the past couple decades and installed all of the machinery of a dictatorship? impressive.

ZOMG,I read the title as We were THIS close to having President Posi...


:eek:

*faints*

I would be a fair and corrupt President.



WHO WANTS TO BE MY MINISTER OF DEFENSE?

Oh please...Posi would just laze around doing absolutely nothing, except maybe hand control of the government over to Canada.

No, what we'd need to fear is a President Eve Online, or a President Myrmidonesia.

I'd outsource most of my work to other NSers. Though, I do have a few pieces of legislation that I would ram through congress.

Damn?

Oooh. And Minister of Defense... *gets ideas of knocking Old Jersey off the map*

I would be a fair and corrupt President.



WHO WANTS TO BE MY MINISTER OF DEFENSE?

ME ME ME! The my kill bots will have something to d....Imean my rflower growing robots will spread peace around the world.

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Damn?

Oooh. And Minister of Defense... *gets ideas of knocking Old Jersey off the map*Posi happens to respect Jersey's contribution to his Union.
ME ME ME! The my kill bots will have something to d....Imean my rflower growing robots will spread peace around the world.

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>>Posi's not into kill bots.

Or flower bots for that matter.

Posi happens to respect Jersey's contribution to his Union.
Posi's not into kill bots.

Or flower bots for that matter.

How about money making bots?

How about money making bots?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

Fine I'll just run against you! *runs*

Too late for the Darwin award.

That is a very myopic view. Fighting to defend the innocent has been seen as a morally virtuous act since the dawn of human reason. There is a difference between killing for your own ends and killing to end the violence caused by others.

And there's the simple math that you're overlooking. Killing 100 people is a hundred times worse than killing one person.
Again, bullshit. It's murder, regardless of the reason, regardless of the means, the method, or what you are trying to defend, it is stooping to that level. Perhaps you see that as a fair suspension of morality; I do not.

your dad has caused one of the greatest humanitarian crises of the past couple decades and installed all of the machinery of a dictatorship? impressive.
Oh would you quit with the hyperbole? Seriously. You knew exactly what I meant.

Again, bullshit. It's murder, regardless of the reason, regardless of the means, the method, or what you are trying to defend, it is stooping to that level. <snip>

That's true. It is murder, and it is wrong to do. And here's the kicker: The assasain and his family would be tortured and killed. The murder of a President can be quite unifying in this country. And I have no doubt that the DoD people would find a way to link the assasain to {Oil nation}. And we'd have another war.


Personally, I'd rather someone invent, and administer to the President and VP, a drug that causes a two year coma.

Dude...is Cheney bracing himself, or giggling?

It's murder

Is all killing murder?

Oh please...Posi would just laze around doing absolutely nothing, except maybe hand control of the government over to Canada.

No, what we'd need to fear is a President Eve Online, or a President Myrmidonesia.

WARNING: DO NOT HIGHLIGHT IF YOU ARE FAINT OF HEART.

Supreme Leader Lunatic Goofballs

NOR THIS ONE

Supreme Commander Il Ruffino

NOR THIS ONE

President Ifreann

FOR GOD'S SAKE, NOT THIS ONE:

Supreme High Commander and Leader Means to an End

On the bright side of things, at least we don't have a woman president.

That is a very myopic view. Fighting to defend the innocent has been seen as a morally virtuous act since the dawn of human reason. There is a difference between killing for your own ends and killing to end the violence caused by others.

And there's the simple math that you're overlooking. Killing 100 people is a hundred times worse than killing one person.

Regardless, making Bush into a martyr wouldn't be good.

WARNING: DO NOT HIGHLIGHT IF YOU ARE FAINT OF HEART.

Supreme Leader Lunatic Goofballs :eek:

NOR THIS ONE

Supreme Commander Il Ruffino
:eek::eek:
NOR THIS ONE

President Ifreann
:eek::eek::eek:

FOR GOD'S SAKE, NOT THIS ONE:

Supreme High Commander and Leader Means to an End *dies*

I told my parents about this and my dad started a tirade about how this should have occurred and how Bush needs to be taken out by any means necessary and how if he had the opportunity to take Bush out he would do it without a thought. I tried to point out that by doing this he'd be no better than Bush regardless of the reasons but dad would have none of that.

...my dad can be such a fool...

You should remind your dad that threatening to kill the President of the United States (even if he's not serious) is a felony, and that the Secret Service doesn't have a sense of humor about such things.

WARNING: DO NOT HIGHLIGHT IF YOU ARE FAINT OF HEART.

Supreme Leader Lunatic Goofballs

NOR THIS ONE

Supreme Commander Il Ruffino

NOR THIS ONE

President Ifreann

FOR GOD'S SAKE, NOT THIS ONE:

Supreme High Commander and Leader Means to an End

If you are at all left of my economics (which basically means everybody), then you should not highlight this.

King Greill

And I think I would much more like to have the car gut the legislative branch than the executive branch. I do not like a lot of Bush's policies, but I have a dislike for Pelosi on a personal level.

King Greill

I, personally, would be the hangman after the Revolution. ;)

(Not really, of course.)

Is all killing murder?

No. Only unlawful killing is murder.

No. Only unlawful killing is murder.

So the law dictates the moral difference between killing and murder?

I, personally, would be the hangman after the Revolution. ;)

I hope you're better than Mary, Queen of Scots' executioner.

I hope you're better than Mary, Queen of Scots' executioner.

Mercy is bourgeois.

The blood of the workers cries for vengeance.

So the law dictates the moral difference between killing and murder?

Pretty much.

Pretty much.

So if the law said that killing anyone with brown hair was legal, would it be morally acceptable?

King Greill

My ideal government would be far more logical and efficient than any monarchy. There's too much room for irrationality, inefficiency and nepotism in government by an inherited monarch.

So if the law said that killing anyone with brown hair was legal, would it be morally acceptable?

It's not about moral acceptance. It's about legal definition.

It's not about moral acceptance. It's about legal definition.

I assumed that Kyronea was speaking of "murder" in moral terms - his moral absolutist stance on the question would indicate such.

I assumed that Kyronea was speaking of "murder" in moral terms - his moral absolutist stance on the question would indicate such.

It's still a definitional issue. Murder is by definition the unlawful and intentional killing of another person. Even if the moral concensus of a society was the randomly gunning people down in the streets was ok, if the law called it murder, it'd be murder.

Murder is by definition the unlawful and intentional killing of another person.

So it would be false to call, say, the Holocaust an incident of mass murder?

"I just thought, 'Oh my goodness!' So, I started walking faster, and the President walked faster and he got to the cord before I did. I violated all the protocols. I touched the President. I grabbed his arm and I moved him up to the front," Mulally said. "I wanted the president to make sure he plugged into the electricity, not into the hydrogen This is all off the record, right?"

I'm calling bullshit on this one.

Why would a hydrogen tank have a socket that would fit an electrical cable?

The whole scenario makes no sense at all.

I think what we are witnessing here is the publicity machine in operation regardless of the cost to coherent thinking.

So it would be false to call, say, the Holocaust an incident of mass murder?

It was an incident of mass killing of human beings undertaken by the state. Not calling it murder doesn't decrease the severity of it, nor does it trivilialize the lives lost. But if you're going to use the word, use it correctly.

Again, bullshit. It's murder, regardless of the reason, regardless of the means, the method, or what you are trying to defend, it is stooping to that level. Perhaps you see that as a fair suspension of morality; I do not.

Yes it's a murder, but that's my point. It's a murder, not several hundred thousand murders. It took Batman from the end of the Golden Age until the 80's Frank Miller treatment before he grew up enough to even consider that murder might be necessary.

Are soldiers murderers? Are police officers who shoot back in firefights murderers? Are surgeons who keep a brain dead body functioning long enough to keep the organs viable for transplant and then turn off the respirator murderers?

If you'd answer yes to all these questions, then I'd have to say you have a fuzzy concept of bullshit.

Regardless, making Bush into a martyr wouldn't be good.

If he was murdered, yes, martyring him wouldn't be good.

If he finally died after his umpteenth episode of getting snatched from the jaws of Darwinism (perhaps this explains why he believes in intelligent design) then he'd be well and truly gone.

My ideal government would be far more logical and efficient than any monarchy. There's too much room for irrationality, inefficiency and nepotism in government by an inherited monarch.

Good luck finding a rational, efficient government that doesn't whore itself out to certain groups. Tell the Easter Bunny I said hi while you're at it.

Mercy is bourgeois.

The blood of the workers cries for vengeance.

I thought the blood of the workers cries for American Idol and nachos?

So it would be false to call, say, the Holocaust an incident of mass murder?

Once Hitler's regime was subject to the laws of the international community, the act became murder.

I'm calling bullshit on this one.

Why would a hydrogen tank have a socket that would fit an electrical cable?

The whole scenario makes no sense at all.

I think what we are witnessing here is the publicity machine in operation regardless of the cost to coherent thinking.

I wondered the same thing, but it's just way to funny to worry about that.

Bush and Cheney killed by a hydrogen-electric hybrid vehicle would have been such stunning and delicious irony. :p

The Onion would fold...they'd never be able to make up a better headline. :p

so close to a ded shrubz!:headbang:

:upyours: ford! :upyours:

If he was murdered, yes, martyring him wouldn't be good.

If he finally died after his umpteenth episode of getting snatched from the jaws of Darwinism (perhaps this explains why he believes in intelligent design) then he'd be well and truly gone.

Well, he is the best evidence against Darwinism to date. After showing that he can survive the deadly predator Pretzelus saltedinus, it proves that "survival of the fittest" is not true.

Well, he is the best evidence against Darwinism to date. After showing that he can survive the deadly predator Pretzelus saltedinus, it proves that "survival of the fittest" is not true.

G W Bush would a dead-beat white trash alcoholic if it wasn't for his rich family bailing him out overtime he stuffed up.

If he was murdered, yes, martyring him wouldn't be good.

If he finally died after his umpteenth episode of getting snatched from the jaws of Darwinism (perhaps this explains why he believes in intelligent design) then he'd be well and truly gone.

Well, yes, an accident would work nicely (if still a tad "martyrizing"). Of course, Cheney would have to go as well.

Well, yes, an accident would work nicely (if still a tad "martyrizing"). Of course, Cheney would have to go as well.

What if it was something like drowning in a bowl of Jello, or maybe he'll cut his neck shaving himself.

Or what if he mistook laxatives for vitamin pills...and shit himself to death? How do you make a martyr out of that?

If Ford wanted to give a demonstration of an electrical vehicle, why didn't they charge it up before they got there?

So they could also demonstrate the charging procedure? Kind of an important part, dontcha think?

What if it was something like drowning in a bowl of Jello, or maybe he'll cut his neck shaving himself.

Or what if he mistook laxatives for vitamin pills...and shit himself to death? How do you make a martyr out of that?

Obviously it was terrorist Jello and Sadaamite shit(hehe).

:D

Bush and Cheney killed by a hydrogen-electric hybrid vehicle would have been such stunning and delicious irony. :p
As much as I dislike those dweebs, I certainly could not in good conscience wish any harm to them. However, the potential for an immensely ironic ending to the moronic duo certainly would have been stunning.