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Ok, now I had a job, I was hired by a community college to schedule students with their advisor, anyways, I was fired from this job about a week after I got hired, and the reason why, was that they stated people could not understand me. Anyways, I am skeptical about this because I know I have a speech problem and I do try to compensate for it and to make sure that people could understand me. Anyways, I want to see what y'all think. Here is a small recording of my speech, and me seeing Ol' Mc. Donald.

http://files.filefront.com//;7173282;/

What you say?

I'm apparently unable to download it, sorry.

You have mentioned this several times before, though, in regards to teaching jobs you didn't get because of your speech impediment.
It's not exactly likely that all these different people are somehow conspiring against you to keep you out of a teaching job, is it?
Don't you think they just might have a point? You don't hear yourself like other people do, and of course you (and your friends and family) know what you're saying, but usually people who are unused to how somebody talks are obviously less attuned to the way they talk.

Just saying.

Eh, your speech impediment is quite noticeable, however, it is hardly impossible to understand. Infact, I'm surprised you got fired for this. I'd be surprised there isn't a law or something regarding instances like this, as they knew(I assume-Who hires someone without an interview?) this before they hired you.

Odd. Very odd.

I understood you perfectly, especially the last part "If you don't, then too bad" :D

Eh, your speech impediment is quite noticeable, however, it is hardly impossible to understand. Infact, I'm surprised you got fired for this. I'd be surprised there isn't a law or something regarding instances like this, as they knew(I assume-Who hires someone without an interview?) this before they hired you.

Odd. Very odd.

They knew I had a speech impediment, the Cabarrus County School knew I had a speech impediment, even Pfeiffer University knows that I have it.

It is a little hard to understand the majority of the song, but I can make out what you're saying. But that could be partly because I know what song you are singing.

*shrugs*

Respond to my post with a voice recording only, and we'll see if I can make it out as much as I did the singing.

Ok, now I had a job, I was hired by a community college to schedule students with their advisor, anyways, I was fired from this job about a week after I got hired, and the reason why, was that they stated people could not understand me. Anyways, I am skeptical about this because I know I have a speech problem and I do try to compensate for it and to make sure that people could understand me. Anyways, I want to see what y'all think. Here is a small recording of my speech, and me seeing Ol' Mc. Donald.

http://files.filefront.com//;7173282;/
It's definitely noticeable, but it's pretty easy for me to understand you nevertheless, and I'm someone who can often find it hard to understand what ANYONE says, let alone those with speech impediments.

Frankly you ought to sue them for firing you on this basis...your speech impediment is not enough to truly be impossible to understand. I think they were just discriminating against you.

Though, I do have a tip: find a job where you don't have to talk all that much.

Listening carefully I could make it out. Though to be honest, it wasn't easy.

The impediment is apparent, but you're not at all that hard to understand. I can see why you were fired, though, and that's because people fucking suck. You shouldn't let it, or WYTYG and Soviestan (see previous sentence) for that matter, discourage you. Look into the legal matters of this because laws against firing people with disabilities should come into play.

Ok, to make sure that this isn't some kind of fluke because I happen to be singing a popular song. This is me talking as I am flying my aircraft at an uncontrolled field.

http://files.filefront.com//;7173591;/

I worked with a lady who was a kindergarten teacher who was deaf, for all intents and purposes. Her manner of speech was slightly more difficult to understand than yours, but it's something you get used to. Like accents. Could someone be fired for having a thick accent? Oh, it's possible. But would you want to work in a place like that anyway?

Fuck them. I understood you just fine, and it wouldn't take a regular person very long to adjust to the way you talk.

They knew I had a speech impediment, the Cabarrus County School knew I had a speech impediment, even Pfeiffer University knows that I have it.

Well, then,you may want to look into whether you can sue. Are you difficult to understand? Yes, a bit. But not nearly to a level that would necessarily be detrimental to performance. I found everything you said in your clip rather simple to understand what you meant, really.

Hell, I find it harder to understand some heavy accents(Even ones that are originally English), and they don't get fired because of it(Not saying they should, here, just pointing this out-I have no problem with foreigners and immigrants).

Sorry dude, I wouldnt hire you.

You clearly have a problem, and if you cant fix it, you wont be able to do everything you want.

Teaching with this voice? No way. Kids/students hardly listen or respect their teachers as it is, with this kind of speach they wont listen or respect you at all. Not even kids.

Wrong, and despicable.

It's not awful, and they are wrong to judge you for it. I understood what you said perfectly. (If you don't believe me I will transcribe, but I really don't want to go thru the effort of writing: "A moo moo here, and a moo moo there". &c.)

So anyways, the bottom line is you are capable of doing the job, so you should probably sue under the disabilities act.

But don't wait for any NS lawyers to take your case, because they won't.

I struggled to understand it I did get the gist "Romeo-3-4-5, 3 miles out" and such

I can however understand why you got fired :( (teach at a deaf school? *shrug*)

Sorry dude, I wouldnt hire you.

You clearly have a problem, and if you cant fix it, you wont be able to do everything you want.

Teaching with this voice? No way. Kids/students hardly listen or respect their teachers as it is, with this kind of speach they wont listen or respect you at all. Not even kids.

It's community college. If they haven't got it by then, they never will, and should be thrown on the scrapheap.

Alright, here's what I have:

*Something I don't understand(Mostly due to crappy speakers)*3663 Romeo, and Ten Miles out, imbound to land on Runway 35.

Repeats, mostly(The last time, is it "And final, runway 35?"

I love you! Marry me and have my children! That's exactly what I said! Also the part was "Wilgrove Traffic, Cherokee...."

Ok, to make sure that this isn't some kind of fluke because I happen to be singing a popular song. This is me talking as I am flying my aircraft at an uncontrolled field.

http://files.filefront.com//;7173591;/

Alright, here's what I have:

*Something I don't understand(Mostly due to crappy speakers)*3663 Romeo, and Ten Miles out, imbound to land on Runway 35.

Repeats, mostly(The last time, is it "And final, runway 35?"

Teaching with this voice? No way. Kids/students hardly listen or respect their teachers as it is, with this kind of speach they wont listen or respect you at all. Not even kids.

What a load of unadulterated crap.

since we heard wilgrove talk. I am making a video of my singin and stripping/dancing to i'm too sexy! :D

Sorry dude, I wouldnt hire you.

You clearly have a problem, and if you cant fix it, you wont be able to do everything you want.

Teaching with this voice? No way. Kids/students hardly listen or respect their teachers as it is, with this kind of speach they wont listen or respect you at all. Not even kids.

Problem is, they hired him knowing full well his impediment.

What a load of unadulterated crap.

It makes me feel dirty to agree with you, but there it is.

Lets never speak of this thread again.

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But don't wait for any NS lawyers to take your case, because they won't.

:p

It makes me feel dirty to agree with you, but there it is.

Lets never speak of this thread again.

Doesn't it feel delicious to agree with me? You should be dirty more often, it'll do you good.

I love you! Marry me and have my children! That's exactly what I said! Also the part was "Wilgrove Traffic, Cherokee...."

I thought I made out "Wilgrove" at the beginning, but wasn't sure.

And it'd be rather difficult for me to have your children, as I don't have the right equipment. Gene splicing, however, is not out of the question.

Really, I didn't even have to pay much attention to what you said(I replayed it a couple times, just to make sure I got the right words down-which is due to poor memory, mostly. I often forget exactly what people said). Although your impediment is rather extreme, it shouldn't be to terribly difficult for people to understand what you mean, if they pay attention. The only reason I can see why people wouldn't is that they just aren't paying attention to you.

I thought I made out "Wilgrove" at the beginning, but wasn't sure.

And it'd be rather difficult for me to have your children, as I don't have the right equipment. Gene splicing, however, is not out of the question.

Really, I didn't even have to pay much attention to what you said(I replayed it a couple times, just to make sure I got the right words down-which is due to poor memory, mostly. I often forget exactly what people said). Although your impediment is rather extreme, it shouldn't be to terribly difficult for people to understand what you mean, if they pay attention. The only reason I can see why people wouldn't is that they just aren't paying attention to you.

What funny is that I wrote down everything I said, and I repeated myself twice to make sure that they understood. I know I have a speech problem and I tried to compensate for that by other means.

I understood you quite well.

*hops in briefly* (I really have to stop this)

I agree with Fass. (really should stop that too, but I can't)

anyway, I assume (because of prior conversations) that your speech issue is mostly mechanical (meaning speech therapy wouldn't help much?)

I don't think you should be barred from a job because of something you have no control over, unless you really can't overcome it enough to work.

I could understand you, but (no offense intended) I work a lot with really small children who don't exactly speak clearly.

If speech therapy is an option that you think might work (even if it's only learning to work around your physical barriers) you might consider it. I am not sure outside of teaching what kinds of jobs you can expect to find with your degree.... but you could do something aside from your degree (although I know that's not the popular option)

(did I have enough parenthesis in that post?)

*fades away*

What a load of unadulterated crap.

Hear, hear!

What funny is that I wrote down everything I said, and I repeated myself twice to make sure that they understood. I know I have a speech problem and I tried to compensate for that by other means.

Isn't that normal? I figured it would be(I've never been on a small airplane), as it makes sense for anyone to do to make sure that they would make sure that they know what is meant.

Doesn't it feel delicious to agree with me? You should be dirty more often, it'll do you good.

Hmm, I doubt that. I like my sparkly clean feeling.

The main point here is that the poor kid was totally fucked over. And, as usual most people are missing the point.

I understood you quite well.

I myself have a speech impediment, because I stutter. It started around 3rd-4th gradish, and got worse from there. Speech therapy helped a bit I guess, but not much.

My world domination dreams were thus shattered...

i was just stopping by to check out some other stuff, and i fell upon this thread, and having reviewed it, i have this to say about it:

1 - your voice is absolutely horrible and horrific;

2 - whoever told you that they couldn't understand you was lying to you, because while it was horrible, it was all comprehensible nonetheless. i think they fired you just because they didn't like your voice - quite honestly, if they didn't like your voice, they shouldn't have hired you.

sorry if this comes out as brash, but i felt that brash honesty would be better than gilded lies at this point. here's what you should do though:

1 - ask for an interview with them - try to get make it recorded.

2 - once at an interview, ask them if they can understand you what you're saying.

3 - play them a tape of something that you've said and ask them if they can understand it.

4 - if they don't understand you, there's a problem with their ears and you should ask them to get their hearing checked; otherwise, if they give any response to you, they are lying.


Even if your words for the recording were rehearsed, that's not the most incomprehensible thing I've ever heard [thank God it isn't!], so while it is unfortunate that you are following the career of a oral-intensive lifestyle, people should be able to hear you.

It's somewhat difficult to understand you given only a short recording, but I don't think an average person would have trouble after getting used to your voice. Might want to review that employment contract and get a legal consultation.

But don't wait for any NS lawyers to take your case, because they won't.

I expect they might, if they had experience in the area. My experience doing immigration appeals isn't too applicable here. ;)

I'm not going to try, because I can understand most people. Seriously. One time I saw this interview with a former meth addict and they gave him subtitles, but I could understand him quite clearly...

I don't know what's up with that.

Problem is, they hired him knowing full well his impediment.

If students were the ones complaining, then it makes sense that they'd find someone that stopped them doing so. It's not a direct slight to Wilgrove.

I'm not going to try, because I can understand most people. Seriously. One time I saw this interview with a former meth addict and they gave him subtitles, but I could understand him quite clearly...

I don't know what's up with that.

That's pretty common, and I think the bar is being raised each year for what constitutes understandable English. I've noticed some pretty clear-spoken people getting the subtitle treatment too.

That's pretty common, and I think the bar is being raised each year for what constitutes understandable English. I've noticed some pretty clear-spoken people getting the subtitle treatment too.

"Hey, how come he doesn't need subtitles?" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTQF3Y_hE6U)

"Hey, how come he doesn't need subtitles?" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTQF3Y_hE6U)

I recognized that just from the link title. I didn't watch it, but I know exactly what it is, and it's extremely pythonesque.

"Are those subtitles?"

It is extremely noticable, so I could see how being who were less than patient and less then considerate could find it difficult. That said, you cannot be blamed because some people are cocks

I recognized that just from the link title. I didn't watch it, but I know exactly what it is, and it's extremely pythonesque.

"Are those subtitles?"

It IS pythonesque isn't it! Fantastically so, I love it, every time:)

I understood what you said just fine. They knew you had a speech impediment when you took the job. I am not a fan of lawyers but you may have a case here of good old fashion discrimination.

I am not a fan of lawyers but

That's what you people always say. Hate us until you need us. Sheesh.

I will be talking to my lawyer on Monday to see what he thinks.

Give 'em Hell!

What were we talking about again?

That's what you people always say. Hate us until you need us. Sheesh.

Well I will put it this way. I love my lawyer. I hate every other one out there.

Well I will put it this way. I love my lawyer. I hate every other one out there.

Gee, thanks.

Anyways, I want to see what y'all think.

I needed to focus to understand you, but understand I did.
However, I am uncertain if I could keep up that level of concentration for the full duration of a lecture, especially if I'd also need to take in the information presented itself. This may be the problem some students had...

Then again, they never fired my Russian prof whose monotonous voice was far more tiring than yours.

I can understand you moderatly well...cell phone would be much more difficult as mine is a piece of shit.

However, I was listening closely on purpose, and have the time to actually focus on it. When I'm setting up my advising appointment, I don't always have that kind of time or effort.

If students complained that much, then I don't know that you can fault the school...did anyone say anything to you while you were working?