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The Armenian Genocide is completely absent from just about every textbook in my pathetic American school. In all my years of education, the holocaust has rightly been prominent, yet Armenia has had maybe a good two minutes' explanation.

More food for all you conspiracy theorists; I know you're in there.

The Armenian Genocide is completely absent from just about every textbook in my pathetic American school. In all my years of education, the holocaust has rightly been prominent, yet Armenia has had maybe a good two minutes' explanation.

More food for all you conspiracy theorists; I know you're in there.

I blame the Jews.

...I'd thought this thread was going to be about massage technigues or maybe erogenous zones, or... or maybe both. Not the Armenian Genocide.

I blame the Jews.

You're talking to a Jew, so I hope that you jest.

I blame the Jews.

NO!

Its Ruffi's fault!

...I'd thought this thread was going to be about massage technigues or maybe erogenous zones, or... or maybe both. Not the Armenian Genocide.
Nobody expects the Armenian Genocide, it is like the Spanish Inquisition in a way.


And that way is the average Joe has no bloody idea what either is.

So what.. Bomb Ankara?


I still hate the turks since they kicked our ass at Gallipolli anyway.

Nobody expects it, and nobody acknowleges it either, it seems. It's a pity, really. My Armenian godfather doesn't know who his grandfather was because of a "relocation."

...I'd thought this thread was going to be about massage technigues or maybe erogenous zones, or... or maybe both. Not the Armenian Genocide.

or a post that simply said "...my dick."

The Armenian Genocide is completely absent from just about every textbook in my pathetic American school. In all my years of education, the holocaust has rightly been prominent, yet Armenia has had maybe a good two minutes' explanation.

More food for all you conspiracy theorists; I know you're in there.

I got the same problem in my school, so it's not just the American school-books (I'm from Belgium by the way).
And they don't talk about the Spanish civil war either, which I thought was something very important in the Interbellum.
Do you people learn(ed) about it?

Um, what? The 'Armenian Genocide' gets a hugely disproportionate amount of attention compared to the atrocities committed by the Western European nations, who are responsible for untold millions of death within their respective empires.

Worse yet, these days accounts of the Armenian Genocide are heavily politicised and used as a tool against the Republic of Turkey (which is no more responsible for the acts of the Ottoman Empire than Germany is for the Holy Roman Empire, or modern Egypt for the Pharaohs...)

Um, what? The 'Armenian Genocide' gets a hugely disproportionate amount of attention compared to the atrocities committed by the Western European nations, who are responsible for untold millions of death within their respective empires.

Worse yet, these days accounts of the Armenian Genocide are heavily politicised and used as a tool against the Republic of Turkey (which is no more responsible for the acts of the Ottoman Empire than Germany is for the Holy Roman Empire, or modern Egypt for the Pharaohs...)

He/She said it wasn't taught at school, not that it isn't in the news these days.

I read 'Armenian' as 'American' for a second, and thought you were referring to the massacring of the Indians. Does that ever get covered?

The Armenian genocide is something that gets very little coverage anywhere I have noticed, not just in the United States of America.

I personally found out about it through an unusual source, Diamanda Galas' Defixiones Will & Testament album, most people I know are unlikely to have heard about it at all.

I blame the Jews.

And the illuminati. And the pope. And Ruffy. But mostly the Jews.


It IS a conspiracy!:eek:

Come on, two genocides is too much for average person's antic. Besides, Armenians are nowhere as popular subject as Jews.


Oh, jews did it (tm) (http://jewsdidwtc.com), of course.

I blame the Jews.

No, no. UKC. No matter what the situtation, you always blame ruffy. Not the jews, not the illuminati, not the pope, but Ruffy.

I read 'Armenian' as 'American' for a second, and thought you were referring to the massacring of the Indians. Does that ever get covered?

Yeah, I thought so too. The Indian massacres do get covered, and the removal. I just covered it in History. King Andy was a real prince.

Maybe the Turks have control of the American education system! :eek:

why does the armenian genocide deserve more attention? do we need to turn world history class into "horrible things done by one group to another over the course of the centuries"?

do we need to turn world history class into "horrible things done by one group to another over the course of the centuries"?

But that's what world history is all about.

I'd say its because Turkey have yet to admit the act ever occurred and so if we go about teaching are kids about it we may have some friction

then again it could be that genocide isn't fun or even particularly relevant and that the only reason we learn about the holocaust is because it has good guys and justifies WWII

But that's what world history is all about.

NO
its about the OFFICIAL ways one nation did bad things to another nation in the form of WAR. if we had to cover every massacre we'd never have time for math class.

NO
its about the OFFICIAL ways one nation did bad things to another nation in the form of WAR. if we had to cover every massacre we'd never have time for math class.

one nation = one group

another nation = another

WAR = horrible things done

You're splitting hairs.

one nation = one group

another nation = another

WAR = horrible things done

You're splitting hairs.

i suppose i am

but really, if you think (by you i dont mean YOU) that you are going to learn everything you need to know about history in highschool you are wrong.

highschool history classes are about hitting the highlights so that if thats all you ever learn, you at least know who won world war 2 (although you do have to pay attention, many students dont seem to know the answer to that)

im quite surprised that the armenian genocide ever gets mentioned.

When I was in school the history classes I took where heavily centered around N America including Canada and Mexico, Europe and Africa. The rest such as Asia, S America and Australia were lightly gone over. Why is that? Well the majority of the kids in the district I was in was either White, Black or Hispanic. So it made sense in a way. I would suppose if the majority of the kids were Chinese or even Armenian then those areas would have been highlighted more.

When I was in school the history classes I took where heavily centered around N America including Canada and Mexico, Europe and Africa. The rest such as Asia, S America and Australia were lightly gone over. Why is that? Well the majority of the kids in the district I was in was either White, Black or Hispanic. So it made sense in a way. I would suppose if the majority of the kids were Chinese or even Armenian then those areas would have been highlighted more.

Really? We started the year off with North America and spent weeks on South America. We lightly covered Europe and we're now on Africa. Different schools (states), I guess.

Oh, yeah- I dug around the textbook for a mention of the genocide. None, and the only talk about the Holocaust is "hay a buncha Jews got killed."

The Armenian Genocide is completely absent from just about every textbook in my pathetic American school. In all my years of education, the holocaust has rightly been prominent, yet Armenia has had maybe a good two minutes' explanation.

More food for all you conspiracy theorists; I know you're in there.
Most genocides don't get a lot of attention. Theres only one that does. I wonder if there is a Rwanda genocide museum?

Most genocides don't get a lot of attention. Theres only one that does. I wonder if there is a Rwanda genocide museum?

I think there might be.

Sad to say, though I'm apparently not alone in this, that I didn't learn about it in school, either. I didn't know it had happened until I read Kurt Vonnegut's Bluebeard. I read up on it myself after that. You really can't expect the (American) school system to teach you anything, especially the text books. If you luck out you get a teacher who knows his/her subject and can point you in the right direction, but more often you just have to pick these things up as you go along. I'm not just talking about history, either. Watch the discovery channel, the history channel, etc, and read lots and lots of books (which you should do anyway). Then maybe you can make up for all the stuff they didn't bother to teach you in school. Damn sure know they left a lot out of my education.

Most genocides don't get a lot of attention. Theres only one that does. I wonder if there is a Rwanda genocide museum?

About that, I'm not sure. But I heard there was a hotel. :p [/bad joke]

as balls. Yes the armenian genocide was bad. So what? It was perpetrated in 1911, almost anyone who was there is now dead. The Armenians are just using any tool they can hit at turkey because the armenians are in dire economic straits. The rwandan genocide is far more relevnat cause those perpetrators are still alive. Armenians: shut up, that was a hundred years ago, okay, bad things happen, sorry. Lots of people been killed in history son.

true it does not get enough attention. It was nearly 100 years ago though. I think the biggest problem is the fact that turkey is not willing to admit to the genocide.
This does not mean that the turkish republic should apologise for what happened during the Ottoman Empire, but they should at least acknowledge the terrible calamity. If not for the sake of the of the countless Ottoman Armenians that died, then at least for Turkey. If they want to be treated like a serious nations then they need to act the part. Hell especially if they want to become part of the EU.

OP: we did'nt cover it at all in history at school

I read 'Armenian' as 'American' for a second, and thought you were referring to the massacring of the Indians. Does that ever get covered?

Not until extremely recently.