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If I explain what the "Picnic" thin is about then someone might steal all my ideas related to this... so anyway, what do you think of these menu options? P.S. Seasonings available: salt, vinegar, pepper, mayonnaise, ketchup.

The Outdoor Picnic (for 4): 8 full-size veg mayonnaise sandwiches, 4 packets of crisps, large bar of plain chocolate, 4 cups of juice, 8 mini apple pies with custard

The Mini Outdoor Picnic (for 2): 4 full-size veg mayonnaise sandwiches, 2 packets of crisps, 2 cups of juice, 4 mini apple pies with custard

The BBQ Picnic for one: Meat-style soya burger in small bun, large fries, slice of chocolate cake or lemon cake

The Sea Breeze Picnic (for 2): 4 fishless “fishcakes” with a parsley sauce, two large portions of traditional chips, two large portions of garden peas, and 2 cups of juice

The Garden Picnic (for 1): 2 slightly spicy vegetable burgers in a small bun, and baby carrots, broccoli, & cauliflower in a vegetable gravy, two mini apple pies with soya cream, and juice

The Dessert Picnic: Slice of chocolate cake or lemon cake (with choice of custard or soya cream), six mini apple pies (with soya cream or custard), slice of apple crumble, and up to four drinks

whats in the veg-mayo sandwiches?

the fishless fishcakes sound horrible. soy cant pass as anything but itself.

otherwise it seems fine. depending on your purpose. (why 2 sandwiches and 2 desserts per person?)

Those sound discusting. I don't see why anyone would want to be a vegetarian, meat tastes so good!

I'd replace the soy- burger with Quorn. It tastes better and doesn't have the unpleasant (for some) side effects.

Quorn is the best stuff on earth. I could actually consider being vegetarian because of the stuff.

Oh, and you might want some vegan options.

Edit: here's a linky for quorn (http://www.quorn.com/).

Mayonnaise sandwiches? Never head of that concept.

The dessert looks delicious, especially with the custard.

Fishcakes look a mite bit questionable.

The burgers, especially the spicy ones, might be alright.

I'd replace the soy- burger with Quorn. It tastes better and doesn't have the unpleasant (for some) side effects.

Quorn is the best stuff on earth. I could actually consider being vegetarian because of the stuff.

Oh, and you might want some vegan options.

Edit: here's a linky for quorn (http://www.quorn.com/).

i have never known anyone who ate quorn. what did you have that was made from it? do you have a recommendation of a first product to try to see if i like it?

i have never known anyone who ate quorn. what did you have that was made from it? do you have a recommendation of a first product to try to see if i like it?

I've had a variety of their products. I've used their hamburger substitute for ghetto tacos. I have the Quorn Turkey Log every year with Thanksgiving. Their chicken nuggets can't be beat IMO. I think they taste just as good as the real thing.

I would start with the chicken nuggets if you like chicken. The cool thing is they not only have the taste (not exact, but not bad/wrong/distracting), they also have the right texture. Texture is very important in meat substitutes.

The best Vegetarian menu option is Vegetarian in a light butter sauce with a dry white wine. Oh, wait, you mean this is about food to serve TO Vegetarians? :p

Anything that attempts to simulate meat is quite often awful. There is so much food around that doesn't have meat in and tastes great. So I've never seen the point in meat alternatives. Just one example is to have a turkish-themed meal with dolma, falafel, hummus 'greek-style' salad with sundried tomatoes, feta cheese and rocket. You could have tirimisu as dessert and yoghurt drink, or juice for a drink. Maybe you could even throw in some fruit like fresh figs or something.

not being vegetarian

Anything that attempts to simulate meat is quite often awful. There is so much food around that doesn't have meat in and tastes great. So I've never seen the point in meat alternatives. Just one example is to have a turkish-themed meal with dolma, falafel, hummus 'greek-style' salad with sundried tomatoes, feta cheese and rocket. You could have tirimisu as dessert and yoghurt drink, or juice for a drink. Maybe you could even throw in some fruit like fresh figs or something.

Tofurkey tastes like ass. Quorn's actually good even by my carniverous standards.

Those sound discusting. I don't see why anyone would want to be a vegetarian, meat tastes so good!

1) Religious Reasons

2) Cultural Reasons

3) Not enjoying the taste of meat

4) Understanding that there are other ways to gain protein other than eating something that was fed it's parents before being run through a slaughterhouse, cut up, and then cooked in its own juices.

There's probably a few more reasons, but those are the main ones.

If vegetarians want to eat stuff that looks like meat, they should eat some god damn meat. Otherwise, stop fucking around and eat vegetable plates that are vegetable plates, not faux "meat".

Understanding that there are other ways to gain protein other than eating something that was fed it's parents before being run through a slaughterhouse, cut up, and then cooked in its own juices.
Except there arn't reliably unless you plan to have an Ant Sandwhich.

If you have veggie sandwiches, I'd say do the mayo on the side. I love a lot of veggie food, but I HATE mayonnaise, and I've met a few others who feel the same way too. There's nothing like getting to a function and finding out that all the sandwiches already have mayo, and all I can eat is the sides. Yuck.

Except there arn't reliably unless you plan to have an Ant Sandwhich.

What? :confused:

If vegetarians want to eat stuff that looks like meat, they should eat some god damn meat. Otherwise, stop fucking around and eat vegetable plates that are vegetable plates, not faux "meat".


Except there arn't reliably unless you plan to have an Ant Sandwhich.

I may be wrong, but I've read that mixing legumes with grains tends to give you all the amino acids you need. It's a complete protein or something.

Anyway, I'd rather get my protein from meat.

I'd replace the soy- burger with Quorn. It tastes better and doesn't have the unpleasant (for some) side effects.

Quorn is the best stuff on earth. I could actually consider being vegetarian because of the stuff.

Oh, and you might want some vegan options.

Edit: here's a linky for quorn (http://www.quorn.com/).

I doubt I'll reply to all cus of how slow forum is being, but the options are actually all vegan, but since vegan is TECHNICALLY a form of vegetarian and veganism is less-understood than vegetarianism, I thought it would be a good idea to call it a vegetarian place. And since the food is all vegan, can't use Quron (there's egg in EVERY Quorn product)

I may be wrong, but I've read that mixing legumes with grains tends to give you all the amino acids you need. It's a complete protein or something.

Anyway, I'd rather get my protein from meat.

Lemme put it this way: I'm a vegetarian. I can probably bench your weight. I don't need to eat meat.

1) Religious Reasons

2) Cultural Reasons

3) Not enjoying the taste of meat

4) Understanding that there are other ways to gain protein other than eating something that was fed it's parents before being run through a slaughterhouse, cut up, and then cooked in its own juices.

There's probably a few more reasons, but those are the main ones.

MY meat was not fed its parents ... dont know bout yours

I doubt I'll reply to all cus of how slow forum is being, but the options are actually all vegan, but since vegan is TECHNICALLY a form of vegetarian and veganism is less-understood than vegetarianism, I thought it would be a good idea to call it a vegetarian place. And since the food is all vegan, can't use Quron (there's egg in EVERY Quorn product)

It's not all vegan. Mayonaise is not vegan.

And I know Quorn isn't vegan, I never said it was. I live in the vegan captial of earth (almost, eugene is more vegan), so I'm well versed in the difference between vegan, vegetarian, raw, and macro diets.

sounds like it needs more beans and pulses and cheese. moar proteen.

and what's a 'veg mayonnaise sandwich'?

It's not all vegan. Mayonaise is not vegan.

And I know Quorn isn't vegan, I never said it was. I live in the vegan captial of earth (almost, eugene is more vegan), so I'm well versed in the difference between vegan, vegetarian, raw, and macro diets.

I haven't specifically mentioned why each thing is vegan, but for everything I've put I've ensured there's a vegan version available. The mayonnaise used would be Plamil egg-free mayonnase, which is vegan and is approved by the Vegan Society. I've been vegan for over two years now so I'm well-versed in what is and isn't vegan (and, except where not possible such as basic frozen veg, I only buy products which state "vegan" on them)

I haven't specifically mentioned why each thing is vegan, but for everything I've put I've ensured there's a vegan version available. The mayonnaise used would be Plamil egg-free mayonnase, which is vegan and is approved by the Vegan Society. I've been vegan for over two years now so I'm well-versed in what is and isn't vegan (and, except where not possible such as basic frozen veg, I only buy products which state "vegan" on them)

Ah. I didn't know there was vegan friendly mayo.

I offered the Quorn because the title said vegetiarian, I didn't know you were going for vegan specific.

Sorry for over analyzing.

Lemme put it this way: I'm a vegetarian. I can probably bench your weight. I don't need to eat meat.

Looks like you need something to help with that penis envy though.

1) Religious Reasons

2) Cultural Reasons

3) Not enjoying the taste of meat

4) Understanding that there are other ways to gain protein other than eating something that was fed it's parents before being run through a slaughterhouse, cut up, and then cooked in its own juices.

There's probably a few more reasons, but those are the main ones.
There's also the sustainability reason... it takes fewer resources to eat a vegetarian diet than an omnivorous one.

And the health one...

I haven't specifically mentioned why each thing is vegan, but for everything I've put I've ensured there's a vegan version available. The mayonnaise used would be Plamil egg-free mayonnase, which is vegan and is approved by the Vegan Society. I've been vegan for over two years now so I'm well-versed in what is and isn't vegan (and, except where not possible such as basic frozen veg, I only buy products which state "vegan" on them)Vegan? Ewww... veganism sucks to high hell.

No butter, no milk, no egg, no cheese, no yoghurt and no cream.

And custard. Real custard needs both eggs and milk. Even if you go for Bird's custard then you still require the milk, and I have never tasted a decent milk substitute in my life. And cake, that needs butter, egg and milk. I had a vegan cake once where they used margarine, gluten and water instead. It was awful.

But, meh, your choice.

1) Religious Reasons

2) Cultural Reasons

3) Not enjoying the taste of meat

4) Understanding that there are other ways to gain protein other than eating something that was fed it's parents before being run through a slaughterhouse, cut up, and then cooked in its own juices.

There's probably a few more reasons, but those are the main ones.

5) Meat causes an upset stomach

6) A small sacrifice as part of a ritual to increase self control. Think Lent but permanent.

7) Health concerns

8) General pickiness about food

9) Previously mentioned 'sustainability'/biomass reasons.

I'm in categories 3-9. I eat fish often and eggs rarely. I eat corned beef once a year as a cultural thing (I'm Irish), but I am considering cutting that too. I don't really enjoy it that much, and it upsets my digestive system for about 3 days.

As for the menu options, consider why people are vegetarian. Some people are vegetarian because they are concerned (OCD) about the cleanliness of the food they eat.
Things like mayonnaise, candy, pie, crisps(chips?) have an unclean fatty clogging feel to them.

Some people are vegetarian because they simply do not like the taste or idea of meat. For those people, imitation meat is gross.

I would suggest making the fresh fruits and vegetables, and maybe some bread and cheese the mainstay of any vegetarian meal.

I've had a variety of their products. I've used their hamburger substitute for ghetto tacos. I have the Quorn Turkey Log every year with Thanksgiving. Their chicken nuggets can't be beat IMO. I think they taste just as good as the real thing.

I would start with the chicken nuggets if you like chicken. The cool thing is they not only have the taste (not exact, but not bad/wrong/distracting), they also have the right texture. Texture is very important in meat substitutes.
The Quorn turkey is crap. It's far too dry, has a dodgy texture, and unlike some other meat-subs doesn't taste like what it's replacing.

Cauldron do a good range of meat-subs - their Cumberland-style sausages are frankly fantastic (a meat-eating friend of mine did a taste test with them and a real Cumberland sausage...and admitted defeat - he couldn't tell the difference).

Quorn mince is ok, if a bit flaky. There's a company called Vegi-Deli that do good meat-subs as well. However, whoever it was said that fishless fishcakes are wrong is correct. It would appear that no one can make an edible fishless fishcake.

Anything that attempts to simulate meat is quite often awful. There is so much food around that doesn't have meat in and tastes great. So I've never seen the point in meat alternatives. Just one example is to have a turkish-themed meal with dolma, falafel, hummus 'greek-style' salad with sundried tomatoes, feta cheese and rocket. You could have tirimisu as dessert and yoghurt drink, or juice for a drink. Maybe you could even throw in some fruit like fresh figs or something.
Exactly. Meat-subs are ok once in a while but you don't want to live on them. If you can't get a varied vegetarian diet without meat-subs, then you're doing something wrong.