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April 2, 2007

by Jim Brown, OneNewsNow.com

The head of a national, Texas-based pro-family group says a recent hostage drill at a New Jersey high school, which portrayed conservative Christians as terrorists, is reflective of a dangerous philosophy that has become prevalent in many parts of America, where it is having negative effects on education.

A local paper reports that a drill at Burlington Township High School in New Jersey involved police portraying mock gunmen, described as "members of a right-wing fundamentalist group called the 'New Crusaders' who don't believe in the separation of church and state." The fake gunmen were said to have been "seeking justice because the daughter of one [member] had been expelled for praying before class."

Historian and constitutional expert David Barton is president of WallBuilders, a national pro-family organization that distributes historical, legal, and statistical information and helps citizens become active in their local schools and communities. He says the stereotyping used in the high school's drill is an accurate indicator of what is being taught in public schools in the Northeast region of the country.

"It's been interesting to see the indoctrination that goes on," Barton notes, "where we've had in the same region, even federal courts up in that same area, say it's okay to start teaching second graders about homosexuality and homosexual 'marriage.'"

Also, the author and historian observes, the common thinking prevalent in this region is "that, by the way, we do not have to notify parents that we're going to indoctrinate kids because this is such an important societal value that all citizens need it." But in fact, he asserts, such liberal indoctrination of students in religious and moral areas of thought has been shown to lead to some undesirable outcomes.

"There is now a study that has been done by the University of Connecticut that shows that kids who have gone through that type of education actually know less academically than when they enter [school], and they're calling that phenomenon 'negative learning,'" Barton points out. "So that kind of indoctrination or philosophy is having an adverse effect academically," he says.

Nevertheless, the WallBuilders founder observes, liberal attitudes like the one that informs the Burlington Township High School drill are "fairly reflective of the philosophy that has really inculcated that part of the country. He says many schools, local officials, and members of Congress from the Northeast share a strong hostility toward traditional values.

The "separation of church and state" phrase invoked in the school hostage drill, Barton asserts, was rarely used by America's founding fathers and is currently construed by many liberals to mean almost exactly the opposite of what it originally meant, protecting churches from the government.

This was brought to my attention by a friend of mine, and I thought it was interesting how I hadn't heard anything about it on any of the news stations I watch/listen to, or in any of the papers I read. Maybe it's because I'm not in Jersey. :P

Here's another linky in the NY Post. (http://www.nypost.com/seven/04042007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/schools_prep_for_wrong_threat_opedcolumnists_michelle_malkin.htm?page=0)

Kind of an interesting story, eh? The plot thickens as PC becomes the norm and having opinions contrary to popular vote becomes an outrage.

Thoughts?

'Schools drill for terrorist attacks by Christian "wackos", not Muslim extremists.'



This was brought to my attention by a friend of mine, and I thought it was interesting how I hadn't heard anything about it on any of the news stations I watch/listen to, or in any of the papers I read. Maybe it's because I'm not in Jersey. :P

Here's another linky in the NY Post. (http://www.nypost.com/seven/04042007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/schools_prep_for_wrong_threat_opedcolumnists_michelle_malkin.htm?page=0)

Kind of an interesting story, eh? The plot thickens as PC becomes the norm and having opinions contrary to popular vote becomes an outrage.

Thoughts?

It's a non-story.

Homegrown terrorism is more likely to be 'Christian' than Islamic... because there are more Christians here (for one), and because 'Christians' have been behind the bulk of 'homegrown' acts that could be considered terror.

If you are gonna drill, you might as well drill for bombs-in-abortion clinics left by white anglo-saxon protestants. It just makes sense to drill most for the most likely outcomes.

Why should the terrorist gunmen fit any profile or stereotype? Hell, why should they be terrorists and not just another Columbine situation?

I don't see why the religion of the guy with a gun to your kid's head really matters.

Why should the terrorist gunmen fit any profile or stereotype? Hell, why should they be terrorists and not just another Columbine situation?

No reason... except another would-be martyr complaining about how the poor Christian minority is suffering...

He'll get some support for a while... feel all vengeful and strong like a good little crusader. Maybe he'll get something banned. Then he'll fade away, and leave yet another blackmark against the Christian name. Sad really.

not all terrorists are muslims.

Why did the school choose this over a generic hostage situation scenario anyway?

Since, after all, there's soooo much more crazy muslims in America then crazy christians...

Why did the school choose this over a generic hostage situation scenario anyway?

Because generic doesn't train you to react to realism.

A good fire drill should be one that has an idea of what is 'burning' and 'where', so that the exercise can be useful in dealing with information like blocked exit routes.

A seige scenario should, similarly, have a 'what' and 'why'... even if it is only for realism.

Since, after all, there's soooo much more crazy muslims in America then crazy christians...

Of course. All foreigners are crazy.

Christian wackos, Muslim extremists, what's the difference?

not all terrorists are muslims.

Vicious hippie leftist liberal-media propaganda, tbh.

At face value, they're trying to prepare students for something that could be a real threat. Bravo on that.

But unfortunately the motive here isn't to do that. It's to teach kids that, as they say in the vernacular, "Christians are teh ebils!!1" They're hiding behind a veil of legitimacy by claiming it's more likely than any other type of terrorist attack. That may be true, but the motive remains the same.

By your idiot logic, and it is generous to call it even that, any sort of firearm training against paper targets is useless, because there is a chance that when using a gun to defend your life, the enemy wont be made out of paper.

The important thing is that they are training, the least-important thing is what religion the baddies are pretending to be.

If the day ever comes that those people have to respond to a real emergency, they will not be thinking "buh buh buh buh buh buh I only trained against de christian terrists!" as the OP seems to think.

The threat is crazy people terrorizing the school, their religion is incidental. They are preparing for the right threat.

Get a grip.

'Schools drill for terrorist attacks by Christian "wackos", not Muslim extremists.'



This was brought to my attention by a friend of mine, and I thought it was interesting how I hadn't heard anything about it on any of the news stations I watch/listen to, or in any of the papers I read. Maybe it's because I'm not in Jersey. :P

Here's another linky in the NY Post. (http://www.nypost.com/seven/04042007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/schools_prep_for_wrong_threat_opedcolumnists_michelle_malkin.htm?page=0)

Kind of an interesting story, eh? The plot thickens as PC becomes the norm and having opinions contrary to popular vote becomes an outrage.

Thoughts?

I'm not sure they're so wrong, but I'm not suggesting that all Christians are terrorists.

I don't see why the religion of the guy with a gun to your kid's head really matters.

Quoted for mighty truth.

Like liberals have never been terrorists. :rolleyes:

They're as tribalistic, powerhungry and warmongering as right wingers are. Both twist laws for their agenda, both force their views on others, both want absolute power and seek to destroy all opposition, both brainwash, and both oppress certain peoples that they hate.

I solemnly swear that the dem regime will be worse if not equally bad to the GOP regime. The left will ban the right to certain religions and certain ideas.

Like liberals have never been terrorists. :rolleyes:

They're as tribalistic, powerhungry and warmongering as right wingers are. Both twist laws for their agenda, both force their views on others, both want absolute power and seek to destroy all opposition, both brainwash, and both oppress certain peoples that they hate.

I solemnly swear that the dem regime will be worse if not equally bad to the GOP regime. The left will ban the right to certain religions and certain ideas.
Waitwaitwait...Im AGREEING with SL?
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I solemnly swear that the dem regime will be worse if not equally bad to the GOP regime. The left will ban the right to certain religions and certain ideas.

On illegal drugs or off RX ones? I still can't decide.

More of the usual "brain damage prevents me from thinking before posting" swill.

A local paper reports that a drill at Burlington Township High School in New Jersey involved police portraying mock gunmen, described as "members of a right-wing fundamentalist group called the 'New Crusaders' who don't believe in the separation of church and state." The fake gunmen were said to have been "seeking justice because the daughter of one [member] had been expelled for praying before class.

I think it's also telling that their given motive was something that would be the grounds for the biggest lawsuit the school had ever seen. Seriously, the school isn't even allowed to DO that.

I think it's also telling that their given motive was something that would be the grounds for the biggest lawsuit the school had ever seen. Seriously, the school isn't even allowed to DO that.

A little more research would have shown that the School District does allow for prayer in schools, namely voluntarily joining in prayer circles, joining the school Bible club and other religion oriented thingys. The premise behind the drill was not a real one.

Are all news days in US this slow?

This happened two weeks ago? Maybe? Not entirely sure, but I believe from the school districts web site that it was the 22nd of March. Not really news, as it wasn't really on TV, and was listed in very few newspapers. Those papers it was printed in were more like responses to what actually happened days prior. Not really breaking news, no.

A little more research would have shown that the School District does allow for prayer in schools, namely voluntarily joining in prayer circles, joining the school Bible club and other religion oriented thingys. The premise behind the drill was not a real one.

Um, that's what I just said. They chose a premise for their imaginary terrorists that could not occur.

A little more research would have shown that the School District does allow for prayer in schools, namely voluntarily joining in prayer circles, joining the school Bible club and other religion oriented thingys. The premise behind the drill was not a real one.

is there also an atheism club there?

Are all news days in US this slow?

Fuck no. Quite often the news day is jam packed with updates on Anna Nicole Smith's dead body.

is there also an atheism club there?

Probably not. At least, I don't seem to recall a formal one at my school.

I think it's also telling that their given motive was something that would be the grounds for the biggest lawsuit the school had ever seen. Seriously, the school isn't even allowed to DO that.

Um, that's what I just said. They chose a premise for their imaginary terrorists that could not occur.

Sorry, your first response was kind of cryptic, and even after reading it several times, I'm still not sure exactly what you were saying.

Fuck no. Quite often the news day is jam packed with updates on Anna Nicole Smith's dead body.

When the hell are they going to let that drop, anyway? I'd never even heard of Anna Nicole Smith before everyone started going absolutely nuts over the fact that she died.

Ex Libris Morte: Terrorists can come in any flavour. Usually they are extremists in one fashion or another and they can use any religion or philosphy to support their goals. In this country due to the vast majority of Christians a Christian terrorist attacking a school is far more likely than a Muslim terorrist. This does not make Christianity nor Islam evil or otherwise bad in any way, as they are merely used as justification for the actions, nothing more.

When the hell are they going to let that drop, anyway? I'd never even heard of Anna Nicole Smith before everyone started going absolutely nuts over the fact that she died.

Ex Libris Morte: Terrorists can come in any flavour. Usually they are extremists in one fashion or another and they can use any religion or philosphy to support their goals. In this country due to the vast majority of Christians a Christian terrorist attacking a school is far more likely than a Muslim terorrist. This does not make Christianity nor Islam evil or otherwise bad in any way, as they are merely used as justification for the actions, nothing more.

So why use a group of Christians as opposed to a fictional terrorist group? Like say Vikings, or Martians, instead of trying to inflame the Christian public in/at/around the school district. That's what I'd like to know.

Sorry, your first response was kind of cryptic, and even after reading it several times, I'm still not sure exactly what you were saying.

I'm just curious why they would give the "terrorists" a motive that is only regarded as POSSIBLE by the most hard core of "persecuted" Christian fundamentalists as opposed to a motive related to something the school is actually allowed to do. Something about their choice of a reason that Christian Terrorists might strike the school just strikes me as odd . . .

It's been mentioned before, but David Barton- the main person quoted in the article- is making a big deal out of a minor, really hypothetical situation. So the school chose to make the "terrorists" in their drill "Christian extremists". It's just an example, I doubt the school is trying to make a statement about the Christian right with their actions (at least not directly). In fact, I applaud the school for using someone other than Muslims to portray terrorists- given that is the current stereotype, at least the students at the school are going to learn that Muslims are not the only group capable of producing terrorists.

Is it also worth noting that New Jersey voted Democrat in 2004 and Texas went Republican? Hmmnnnn...

I also wish to bring this up. This really caught my eye:

In fact, he asserts, such liberal indoctrination of students in religious and moral areas of thought has been shown to lead to some undesirable outcomes.

"There is now a study that has been done by the University of Connecticut that shows that kids who have gone through that type of education actually know less academically than when they enter [school], and they're calling that phenomenon 'negative learning,'" Barton points out. "So that kind of indoctrination or philosophy is having an adverse effect academically," he says.

Teaching kids about things like homosexuality makes them dumber? Now *that's* a stretch. Since when does learning a new fact lower someone's intelligence? It's like saying that if someone convinces me to think differently on a certain matter (whatever that may be) I've automatically become dumber, which I don't- I won't *lose* intelligence. Barton may have a point in that indoctrination provides a hinderance in a child's education (which should allow the child to eventually become an adult capable of thinking for themselves), but that includes indoctrination of any kind- "liberal" or "conservative", not just on one kind or the other.

So why use a group of Christians as opposed to a fictional terrorist group? Like say Vikings, or Martians, instead of trying to inflame the Christian public in/at/around the school district. That's what I'd like to know.

As I said, a Christian terrorist attack is far more likely, and as such should be what is drilled on. That's why a school in the mountains of Colorado drills for avalanches but not, say, hurricanes or tornadoes, because neither one is likely to hit in the mountains of Colorado. Similiarly, an Islamic terrorist attack is not all that likely on a New Jersey school, but a Christian one is much more so.

Stop being offended because it was Christian terrorists who were drilled for. You shouldn't be. You should be offended by the Christian terrorists that actually exist.

is there also an atheism club there?

Honestly, there tend not to be enough atheists in any given high school to form an atheist club. And many tend to want to keep their beliefs to themselves, fearing persecution from their peers.

Honestly, there tend not to be enough atheists in any given high school to form an atheist club. And many tend to want to keep their beliefs to themselves, fearing persecution from their peers.

It's rather idiotic, isn't it? We try to pride ourselves on treating people equally but when someone professes a lack of belief in some sky fairy or another people get really upset. It's so stupid.

By the way, your signature is a lot longer than eight lines.

As I said, a Christian terrorist attack is far more likely, and as such should be what is drilled on. That's why a school in the mountains of Colorado drills for avalanches but not, say, hurricanes or tornadoes, because neither one is likely to hit in the mountains of Colorado. Similiarly, an Islamic terrorist attack is not all that likely on a New Jersey school, but a Christian one is much more so.

Stop being offended because it was Christian terrorists who were drilled for. You shouldn't be. You should be offended by the Christian terrorists that actually exist.

I am not offended by the article, the history behind it, and not by the reaction to it. Don't think it's because I think that Muslims are overly persecuted and deserve a break, but because I am not a Christian.

I'm just asking how often a Christian terrorist group does anything except holes up in a fortified building collecting guns and food and make strange rules about sex and the leader of the cult? I said it. Christian terrorist groups are cults. Wako happened because of a Christian terrorist group, not because of Christian terrorists taking a school full of children hostage.

I know very well that the sources of information for this particular incident are not fair or balanced, they were the best I could find that said anything about the incident at all.

I'm pretty decent at reading objectively from subjective commentary on history, so I'm certain that most of what Barton says is crap, but my reason for starting the thread was to find out other's reactions to this, mostly because I was concerned about the reality of a situation like this actually occurring.

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Bomb threats I can understand, but armed terrorist groups? Other than the school's populace, I would say the chances are very slim in the U.S.

It's rather idiotic, isn't it? We try to pride ourselves on treating people equally but when someone professes a lack of belief in some sky fairy or another people get really upset. It's so stupid.

By the way, your signature is a lot longer than eight lines.

Damn. Didn't realize there was a restriction. Guess I'll have to cut it down/compact it.

I am not offended by the article, the history behind it, and not by the reaction to it. Don't think it's because I think that Muslims are overly persecuted and deserve a break, but because I am not a Christian.

I'm just asking how often a Christian terrorist group does anything except holes up in a fortified building collecting guns and food and make strange rules about sex and the leader of the cult? I said it. Christian terrorist groups are cults. Wako happened because of a Christian terrorist group, not because of Christian terrorists taking a school full of children hostage.

I know very well that the sources of information for this particular incident are not fair or balanced, they were the best I could find that said anything about the incident at all.

I'm pretty decent at reading objectively from subjective commentary on history, so I'm certain that most of what Barton says is crap, but my reason for starting the thread was to find out other's reactions to this, mostly because I was concerned about the reality of a situation like this actually occurring.

Bomb threats I can understand, but armed terrorist groups? Other than the school's populace, I would say the chances are very slim.
Forgive me for the assumption...usually around here if someone complains about this it's because they either feel Christianity is being persecuted or that Christianity is too "nobel" or something like that for Christian terrorists to ever exist.

Frankly I agree with you on the true likelihood of the situation...but I am not the one deciding what drills to run. If it were up to me, though...I wouldn't run those drills.

Of course then Murphy's Law kicks in and the school is captured and held by Christian terrorists just to spite all of us.

Forgive me for the assumption...usually around here if someone complains about this it's because they either feel Christianity is being persecuted or that Christianity is too "nobel" or something like that for Christian terrorists to ever exist.

Frankly I agree with you on the true likelihood of the situation...but I am not the one deciding what drills to run. If it were up to me, though...I wouldn't run those drills.

Of course then Murphy's Law kicks in and the school is captured and held by Christian terrorists just to spite all of us.

I actually heard several distasteful reasons for why it wouldn't be a group of Christian terrorists, and the reasoning behind those reasons was appalling at best, not to mention the blatant anti-Islam tendency that seems to occur quite frequently in the fundamentalist side of Christianity.

An irony from the Christian God? Sending His terrorists to attack the school who were preparing for such an event? That sounds like pure irony coated irony with ironic filling.

I am not offended by the article, the history behind it, and not by the reaction to it. Don't think it's because I think that Muslims are overly persecuted and deserve a break, but because I am not a Christian.

I'm just asking how often a Christian terrorist group does anything except holes up in a fortified building collecting guns and food and make strange rules about sex and the leader of the cult? I said it. Christian terrorist groups are cults. Wako happened because of a Christian terrorist group, not because of Christian terrorists taking a school full of children hostage.

I know very well that the sources of information for this particular incident are not fair or balanced, they were the best I could find that said anything about the incident at all.

I'm pretty decent at reading objectively from subjective commentary on history, so I'm certain that most of what Barton says is crap, but my reason for starting the thread was to find out other's reactions to this, mostly because I was concerned about the reality of a situation like this actually occurring.

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Bomb threats I can understand, but armed terrorist groups? Other than the school's populace, I would say the chances are very slim in the U.S.

Well, the original post simply had the article, and I decided to comment on it, including the part of the indoctrination. Now, for what you're asking- whether or not Christian terrorists could do something like that- I'm going to join the chorus and say "yes". You're right in saying that it's not likely- but how likely is a terrorist strike, of any kind? Considering the multitude of Christian fundamentalist groups in the U.S. alone there's got to be at least three or four of them that *would* consider something like this- they just need the appropriate catalyst. Let's say a group does sue the school because, say, they wouldn't allow a teacher to have a cross on his desk- and let's say the group loses. If they believe so strongly about their position they just might pull something like this off. Terrorism usually occus when the terrorists feel there is no other option- Osama bin Laden's actions are a prime example, albeit extreme, as well as the actions of the Chechen rebels against the Russians- and one day, the events might be lined up in just that way for a Christian extremist group. Unlikely, yes, but it's not more unlikely than a Muslim attack either.

So why use a group of Christians as opposed to a fictional terrorist group? Like say Vikings, or Martians, instead of trying to inflame the Christian public in/at/around the school district. That's what I'd like to know.

What do you have against Vikings and Martians? They never killed anybody! ...well, not recently anyway. :p

'Schools drill for terrorist attacks by Christian "wackos", not Muslim extremists.'



This was brought to my attention by a friend of mine, and I thought it was interesting how I hadn't heard anything about it on any of the news stations I watch/listen to, or in any of the papers I read. Maybe it's because I'm not in Jersey. :P

Here's another linky in the NY Post. (http://www.nypost.com/seven/04042007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/schools_prep_for_wrong_threat_opedcolumnists_michelle_malkin.htm?page=0)

Kind of an interesting story, eh? The plot thickens as PC becomes the norm and having opinions contrary to popular vote becomes an outrage.

Thoughts?

Why would it make any difference what kind of extremist terrorists they prepared for?

Schools drill for terrorist attacks by Christian "wackos", not Muslim extremists

sounds like the more rational and probable threat to me!

as most real terrorists are home grown and if this is the u.s., christer wackos are far more abundunt localy then any other excuse for fanatacism there.

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So why use a group of Christians as opposed to a fictional terrorist group? Like say Vikings, or Martians, instead of trying to inflame the Christian public in/at/around the school district. That's what I'd like to know.

Because people would spend half the exercise giggling at the idea of being attacked by one of those two groups?

So why use a group of Christians as opposed to a fictional terrorist group? Like say Vikings, or Martians, instead of trying to inflame the Christian public in/at/around the school district. That's what I'd like to know.

Why would that inflame anyone? Or do you assume that the "Christian public" would identify with the fictional attackers?

not all terrorists are muslims.

Just most of them.

Just most of them.

Cause you know most muslims that intimately, right?

Cause you know most muslims that intimately, right?

I know Wikipedia that intimately.

Just most of them.

:rolleyes:

I know Wikipedia that intimately.

And Wikipedia knows most Muslims that intimately, then?

I know Wikipedia that intimately.

Care to point to the page where it's shown the most muslims are terrorrists, for us unenlighted ones?

Care to point to the page where it's shown the most muslims are terrorrists, for us unenlighted ones?

Give him a few minutes to edit it first.

Fuck no. Quite often the news day is jam packed with updates on Anna Nicole Smith's dead body.

Well, according to my School's April Fool's paper, my school's President(Dean of Students, if you will) is the father of her child.

*whistles and wanders off*

Just most of them.
What the fuck are you on about?

Count the muslim population of the world, then prove that more than 75% (that would be "most of them") are terrorists. Come on, you're just making a complete ass of yourself with such blanket statements.

I know Wikipedia that intimately.

What the fuck are you on about?

Ah, I get it, you only know muslims from what you've read on Wikipedia. May I suggest reading up on the subject instead of portraying your lack of knowledge?

Seems a fairly likely scenario to me - right-wing Christians taking over a school and blowing up the science labs and the library to 'protect' children from being taught about evolution.

Here is a more balanced article by a New Jersey newspaper:

http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070404/NEWS01/704040375/1006/news01

Like liberals have never been terrorists. :rolleyes:

They're as tribalistic, powerhungry and warmongering as right wingers are. Both twist laws for their agenda, both force their views on others, both want absolute power and seek to destroy all opposition, both brainwash, and both oppress certain peoples that they hate.

I solemnly swear that the dem regime will be worse if not equally bad to the GOP regime. The left will ban the right to certain religions and certain ideas.

I don't understand your (ab)use of the word 'liberal', I think. This little diatribe seems to make as much sense as bitching about anarchist governments or atheistic prayertime.

Why should the terrorist gunmen fit any profile or stereotype? Hell, why should they be terrorists and not just another Columbine situation?

It's interesting to note that the companies that provide burglar alarm services (ADP, Slomins) who have TV adverts will AVOID having any of the "burglars" in the commercial be anything except white males.

Apparently, they don't want to offend any minorities, with depictions of criminal activity by ANY minority.

So why use a group of Christians as opposed to a fictional terrorist group? Like say Vikings, or Martians, instead of trying to inflame the Christian public in/at/around the school district. That's what I'd like to know.

Because historically, homegrown terrorism in this country hasn't been martians or vikings. Or Muslims. It's been people that are 'Christian'... although whether their actions would measure up to a christlike model is a matter of opinion.

Just most of them.

non muslim terrorists have killed a lot more people in this country than muslim terrorists per person.

When you look at how many people were killed in Oklahoma City bombings versus 9/11 and the amount of conspirators involved in each, Oklahoma City resulted in more deaths per terrorist than 9/11.

It's interesting to note that the companies that provide burglar alarm services (ADP, Slomins) who have TV adverts will AVOID having any of the "burglars" in the commercial be anything except white males.

Apparently, they don't want to offend any minorities, with depictions of criminal activity by ANY minority.

who comits more robbery in this country?

who comits more robbery in this country?

who commits more murders?

Black on black violence accounts for more than half of all murders in the US.

Mostly in front of, or in their own homes.

Wouldn't you want to sell alarms to them?

Would it make a credible commercial to have "whitey" breaking into a black man's house to kill him?

Nope - not even close. 94 percent of blacks are murdered by blacks.

Muslim terrorists just get all the press.

Nah, it's just that Christians can't fly airliners well enough to get them off the ground...

Just most of them.

Muslim terrorists just get all the press.

'Schools drill for terrorist attacks by Christian "wackos", not Muslim extremists.'



This was brought to my attention by a friend of mine, and I thought it was interesting how I hadn't heard anything about it on any of the news stations I watch/listen to, or in any of the papers I read. Maybe it's because I'm not in Jersey. :P

Here's another linky in the NY Post. (http://www.nypost.com/seven/04042007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/schools_prep_for_wrong_threat_opedcolumnists_michelle_malkin.htm?page=0)

Kind of an interesting story, eh? The plot thickens as PC becomes the norm and having opinions contrary to popular vote becomes an outrage.

Thoughts?

We know the real threat is from the wacko BATF against the Christian groups.

And Wikipedia knows most Muslims that intimately, then?

It is absolutely amazing how someone can read a post that implies most terrorists are Muslim, yet interpret it as most Muslims are terrorists. Are you having one of those dyslexic days?

who commits more murders?

Black on black violence accounts for more than half of all murders in the US.

Mostly in front of, or in their own homes.

Wouldn't you want to sell alarms to them?

Would it make a credible commercial to have "whitey" breaking into a black man's house to kill him?

Nope - not even close. 94 percent of blacks are murdered by blacks.

What does murders have to do with his question?

What does murders have to do with his question?

We're talking about crime - and a lot of the commercials for the alarm companies imply that the break-in will occur while your wife and kids are alone at home, and that there will be the threat of bodily harm.

So mere burglary isn't a valid selection. Let's talk about murder and actual violence.

i find it rather comical.

they can have their seperation between church and state all they want. but come round to reelection its the people they may of offended that decide if they get to stay where they are (sherif, school board, other county and state officials)

oh well

Awesome. That school has balls.

Honestly, there tend not to be enough atheists in any given high school to form an atheist club. And many tend to want to keep their beliefs to themselves, fearing persecution from their peers.

Come to New York -- there certainly ARE enough students for an Atheism club -- but it would seem pointless.

Muslim Student's club -- discuss religious and cultural matters.
Christian CLub -- discuss religious and cultural matters.
Atheism club -- isn't that pretty much everyone else? ;)

Come to New York -- there certainly ARE enough students for an Atheism club -- but it would seem pointless.

Muslim Student's club -- discuss religious and cultural matters.
Christian CLub -- discuss religious and cultural matters.
Atheism club -- isn't that pretty much everyone else? ;)

Atheism Club: Discuss music and trade Magic: The Gathering cards. :)

Atheism Club: Discuss music and trade Magic: The Gathering cards. :)

Depends on whether or not I can convince someone that my Cloudscraper is worth his/her BoP.

Almost was able to get that trade through one time... so very close...

I hardly see this as PC, I see this as realistic. Religiously motivated violence is much more likely to come from Christians in your country.

Also, realising that someone who is religiously motivated is going to react differently to the situation than just a random nutjob is...well, relevant I'd think.