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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/04/02/britain.spying.reut/index.html

People are very paranoid now, thoughts on this?

I don't live in Briton, and my primary social environment is a horribly repressed high school in central Texas, but I will say that, in my observations of others, given the opportunity, a person will cheat on their boyfriend/girlfriend nine out of ten times.

On another note, Alfred Kinsey discovered in the god-damned fifties that most men cheat on their wives at some point. I guess now it's just easier to find out where hubby really goes on bowling night, and people take advantage of that.

I'm very trusting of my partner. I only check on her using the tracker device implanted in her arm. I would never read her text messages.

On another note, Alfred Kinsey discovered in the god-damned fifties that most men cheat on their wives at some point. I guess now it's just easier to find out where hubby really goes on bowling night, and people take advantage of that.
It probably doesn't help that current research indicates women are now just as likely to cheat as men. By age 40, about 1 in 2 people will have cheated on their partner at least one time.

Monogamy sucks. Open relationships are far less stressful.

I'm very trusting of my partner. I only check on her using the tracker device implanted in her arm. I would never read her text messages.

Trusting relationships are great. Thanks to the latest sedatives, restraints and subdermal trackers I know I can trust my partner.

Anyone reading my SMSs will be dumped. I do not keep this a secret. It's almost as bad as lying.

And for people other than romantic partners, I make it clear that my right to privacy is more important to me than their right to life.

I do not like being spied on.

Anyone reading my SMSs will be dumped. I do not keep this a secret. It's almost as bad as lying.

And for people other than romantic partners, I make it clear that my right to privacy is more important to me than their right to life.

I do not like being spied on.

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*turns off listening devices*

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*turns off listening devices*

Good boy. *Pats*
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... never checked my partners' texts, ever. Or anything, at all.

Seems a bit intrusive and rude, to be perfectly honest.

And anyway - at least half of the people of Britain don't do anything untoward, according to the survey. Could always take it that way.

Anyone reading my SMSs will be dumped. I do not keep this a secret. It's almost as bad as lying.

And for people other than romantic partners, I make it clear that my right to privacy is more important to me than their right to life.

I do not like being spied on.

i'm to busy spying on other things to spy on you

And anyway - at least half of the people of Britain don't do anything untoward, according to the survey. Could always take it that way.

Nope, read again - 53% of those surveyed admit to reading text messages. 42% of of those surveyed read their partner's email. There's nothing to say how much of those two groups overlap, either, and there are plenty of other activities mentioned...

Hell, in my age group (25 to 34) it's 77% reading text messages alone...

To be fair this is not entirely surprising. It's become far too acceptable to do such things these days because we more paranoid. And I agree that open relationships are far less stressful. It my experience there is more
trust inthat kind of reationship because you know exactly what each other is doing and there's a level of openness that you don't always get in a manogamous relationship. I also believe that some people will take a friendly flirt far too seriously and I think people are more jealous these days. Though that is only my personal opinion.

I'm glad to not do any of those, though Facebook provides some privacy issues...

Nope, read again - 53% of those surveyed admit to reading text messages. 42% of of those surveyed read their partner's email. There's nothing to say how much of those two groups overlap, either, and there are plenty of other activities mentioned...

Hell, in my age group (25 to 34) it's 77% reading text messages alone...




Ahh it's that lies, damdable lies, and statistics again innit?

You can make figures proove whatever you want your point to be. You need to asked fuller questions to get to the truth, for example.


How big was the survey? How many men and women? What age groups? What jobs do they do?

Out of this 53% how many are young teenage girls? How many are teenage boys/ How many have been married before?

Ahh it's that lies, damdable lies, and statistics again innit?

You can prove statistics to prove anything. 33% of people know that.

that's pretty creepy. yet another thing to make dating seem like something i don't want to do.

Monogamy sucks. Open relationships are far less stressful.

QFT

You can prove statistics to prove anything. 33% of people know that.

Statistics prove nothing, and cannot be proven themselves. 90% of mathematicians know that! ;p

They may, however, demonstrate things.

The third is the old-fashioned one of rummaging through a partner's pockets, (39 percent), a technique popular with women.

Just leave some cash in them, and your secrets will be safe :p

I trust my fiancee not to do anything so I don't look at his E-mail, don't check his text messages, and never question him when he says he's going somewhere. I just trust him.

Monogamy sucks. Open relationships are far less stressful.
But if most people are cheating on each other, than doesn't that mean they're already living in open relationships?

I don't know about you guys, but I couldn't put up with an SO that watches me constantly. It'd just be creepy.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/04/02/britain.spying.reut/index.html

People are very paranoid now, thoughts on this?

They didn't see show the Fave 5 ad in Britain, did they? That might have scared them.

But if most people are cheating on each other, than doesn't that mean they're already living in open relationships?

Open relationships doesn't mean cheating. They know their partner is having sex with others and they agree/allow to it occuring.

meh.

My girlfriend has access to my email accounts, mobile, bank account whenever she wants.

hell i've given her my mobile on countless occasions to use when she goes out because she forgot to charge hers. Yesterday I gave her my credit card to use because there's been a problem with hers and she's waiting on a new one that she picking up on monday.

meh.

My girlfriend has access to my email accounts, mobile, bank account whenever she wants.

hell i've given her my mobile on countless occasions to use when she goes out because she forgot to charge hers. Yesterday I gave her my credit card to use because there's been a problem with hers and she's waiting on a new one that she picking up on monday.

That's very, very trusting.

I would also suggest that it's quite foolish. Not the mobile, maybe, but bank accounts and credit cards? You're leaving yourself wide open to being screwed over there.

To be fair this is not entirely surprising. It's become far too acceptable to do such things these days because we more paranoid. And I agree that open relationships are far less stressful. It my experience there is more
trust inthat kind of reationship because you know exactly what each other is doing and there's a level of openness that you don't always get in a manogamous relationship. I also believe that some people will take a friendly flirt far too seriously and I think people are more jealous these days. Though that is only my personal opinion.

heh yeah it's like the mobile phone has somehow re-wrtitten common curtesy and privacy.

I was down my brothers last night playing cards, when my sister-in-law just picked up my phone, she didn't ask, just picked it up and with a mumbled, 'I'm just looking at your pics' my privacy was overlooked and abused, just like that.

The worst of it though was when I said 'Oi cheeky cow, what are you doin'?' she really didn't think she was doing anything wrong.

I explained to her that nowadays, you mobile phone contains, your written corspondance, your private contact details for you friends etc.., private pics.

It's like sopmebody in your house, rooting not only through you email, paper post, photo albums, movies, but your little black book too. Now would you allow that?, Not me!

That's very, very trusting.

I would also suggest that it's quite foolish. Not the mobile, maybe, but bank accounts and credit cards? You're leaving yourself wide open to being screwed over there.

Heh yeah, but he obviously trust his girlfriend, and thats right, right?

I wouldn't see the point in going so far as reading my partner's texts or diary or whatever. If you look at it rationally, it's no use whatsoever. Even if you do find some discriminating things there, how on earth would you confront them? You'd have to admit to spying on them, making you just as guilty as your partner.

Personally, I prefer an open relationship anyway, so there's no need whatsoever to spy on my BF. :)

Heh yeah, but he obviously trust his girlfriend, and thats right, right?

But is it wise to bestow that much trust in anyone?

I trust my girlfriend as much as - probably more than - anybody. But I haven't told (wouldn't tell) her any of my passwords, PIN numbers, given her my debit card... Why would I want to do these things? It doesn't benefit anyone; if she needs something, I can buy it and have it delivered to her. Why would she need, or want, to look at my bank account?

And why would I want to look at hers? Why would I want her debit card? Once she did tell me one of her passwords; I gave her a stern "never tell anyone one of your passwords, ever" lecture, and made her change it.

But is it wise to bestow that much trust in anyone?

I trust my girlfriend as much as - probably more than - anybody. But I haven't told (wouldn't tell) her any of my passwords, PIN numbers, given her my debit card... Why would I want to do these things? It doesn't benefit anyone; if she needs something, I can buy it and have it delivered to her. Why would she need, or want, to look at my bank account?

And why would I want to look at hers? Why would I want her debit card? Once she did tell me one of her passwords; I gave her a stern "never tell anyone one of your passwords, ever" lecture, and made her change it.

Heheh well then I guess you have trust issues too huh? Then again one look at ya nick and I guess I can see that!

Heheh well then I guess you have trust issues too huh? Then again one look at ya nick and I guess I can see that!

Trust issues? Maybe...
The name was just something silly I came up with when making a nation - I didn't even realise there was a forum at the time. It's quite ironic, really; I don't suffer from depression and I'm certainly not compulsive ;)

Open relationships doesn't mean cheating. They know their partner is having sex with others and they agree/allow to it occuring.
If two wrongs don't make a right, I don't want to be right.

My wife and I knoe wach other's ATM PINs, e-mail passwords, etc. We don't check each other's text messages mainly for the fact that we never send them...there is no sense of privacy between us. None needed. I don't screw around behind her back, and frankly, even if she did, I probably wouldn't care. I might make her get checked for diseases, but that's about it.

I wouldn't see the point in going so far as reading my partner's texts or diary or whatever. If you look at it rationally, it's no use whatsoever. Even if you do find some discriminating things there, how on earth would you confront them? You'd have to admit to spying on them, making you just as guilty as your partner.

Personally, I prefer an open relationship anyway, so there's no need whatsoever to spy on my BF. :)

there is ALWAYS need to keep at least minimal track of your boyfriend. especially if you have intwined your lives in any way.

live together? what if he is planning to run off with a woman he met in this open relationship and leave you to pay rent that you cant afford? what if he has started sleeping with MEN and might be exposing you to HIV?

there are just a host of things that people get into trouble with and drag their loved ones into. a little "heads up" goes a long way.

live together? what if he is planning to run off with a woman he met in this open relationship and leave you to pay rent that you cant afford? what if he has started sleeping with MEN and might be exposing you to HIV?


is that a joke. your just as likely to get HIV from a woman as you are a man.
its not a gay plague you know.:rolleyes:

is that a joke. your just as likely to get HIV from a woman as you are a man.
its not a gay plague you know.:rolleyes:

whatever

whatever

a well rounded and mature reply, but seriously look at africa where hiv is a really big problem. 98% of the the people who contract hiv through penetretive sex do so through hetrosexual means. in fact many gay men understand the risks of HIV much more than non- gays. so really you have less to worry about from a partners gay affair than a hetro one.

go on please tell me im wrong;)

That's very, very trusting.

I would also suggest that it's quite foolish. Not the mobile, maybe, but bank accounts and credit cards? You're leaving yourself wide open to being screwed over there.

we've been together 4 years. Have bought a place together. and have a 5 month old daughter.

Screw me over? she could run away with my daughter, or kill me in my sleep or any of a million other things.

I only trust her because I know i can. and anyway, if she wanted to get access to my bank account you can get you hands on a nifty keyboard-letter tracker. She would be able to get most of my codes whenever i check my account on-line.

go on please tell me im wrong;)
Unprotected anal sex has a higher risk of transmission than regular "vanilla"-sex because of the risk of rectal bleeding (or something like that).

a well rounded and mature reply, but seriously look at africa where hiv is a really big problem. 98% of the the people who contract hiv through penetretive sex do so through hetrosexual means. in fact many gay men understand the risks of HIV much more than non- gays. so really you have less to worry about from a partners gay affair than a hetro one.

go on please tell me im wrong;)

i believe you can take my "whatever" as in indication that i am uninterested in discussing HIV politics in a thread about trust.

Unprotected anal sex has a higher risk of transmission than regular "vanilla"-sex because of the risk of rectal bleeding (or something like that).


true. but as i said most homosexual men use protection. they are very good at knowing the risks and protect themselves. hetrosexual couples however are far more lax on this aspect. plus it would depend on whether he was a giver or a taker, him being circumsised could help and most importantly not all gay couples partake in anal sex. i know a fair group of gay men that wont.

so my case stands if you have a male partener that has a gay affair he is far less likely to contract hiv than if it were a hetro affair.

we've been together 4 years. Have bought a place together. and have a 5 month old daughter.

Screw me over? she could run away with my daughter, or kill me in my sleep or any of a million other things.

Wow, that is a lot of trust... I'm not at all convinced I'd ever buy a house with anyone, without significant legal paperwork to protect both parties from the other.

Funnily enough, the things you list would be the least of my worries :D

I only trust her because I know i can. and anyway, if she wanted to get access to my bank account you can get you hands on a nifty keyboard-letter tracker. She would be able to get most of my codes whenever i check my account on-line.

Yeah, I get very upset when people use my computer without permission. I don't seriously think they would do anything malicious (or even look through all the crap I'm protective of), but I prefer to know they can't. If anyone else did use it regularly we'd have seperate accounts, and they certainly wouldn't get admin. And I'd have to keep my eyes out for keyloggers, of course ;)

Hey, just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not out to get you (or your money, more likely)... <.< >.>