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I've been threatened with a lawsuit. By my teacher. Interested yet?

So I go to a Tech school. Half the year we learn stuff that people learn in normal high schools, and half the year we learn stuff about our trade. During the shop half of the year, we are required to go to a period of either Math or English a day. Now, before I begin my tale, I would like to note that these teachers that teach shop math and English are there for a reason, and that's because they aren't good enough to teach a real class. Moving on.

So last Thursday, I had English. We were doing some silly reports, and we had laptops, so no one was really paying attention. Not that we are being a bad and disruptive class, just we aren't really paying attention to what we are supposed to be doing. My teacher told me that my partner and I did not have to do this certain section of our project the day before, because of the nature of what we were researching and stuff. So she's looking through our stuff, after we claimed that we finished, and she told us that we still needed to do that. I told her, very politely, that she told us the day before we didnt have to. She said she didn't, and I must have misunderstood her. I told her, again politely, that she was wrong. So now she's yelling. I'm still being polite. My classmate next to me is covertly video taping the situation for future lulz. After about 3 times of her screaming at me, I said, "Well, if you're saying this today, and yesterday you said something else, then you must have been lying." So now she flips out. I get a detention, she pulls me out in the hall, blah blah blah. Lets skip forward to today.

Early today, the kid who was video taping was called down to the office. Somehow, no one is sure exactly how, the teacher found out about him taping the situation. She claimed that "he showed the whole school", and it was an invasion of her privacy. Hold it right there. First of all, no, he isn't supposed to have a video camera in school. But he certainly didn't show the whole school the video, in fact, he mearly showed people like me, who were there anyways, and then deleted it. Any guesses on his punishment? No? Ok.

1 day in school suspension (today), video camera taken away, and the possibility of 10 days OUT OF SCHOOL suspension, and A POSSIBLE LAWSUIT, FOR VIOLATION OF PRIVACY.
This is the first lawsuit threatened.

I found out, and the whole class is basically fed up with this teachers bs. I told my classmate I would take care of it.

I went up to her room to ask about my detention today, and on the way out I said,
"Oh, by the way, Good luck with the lawsuit!"

Now, I'm in detention. Shes screaming at me. Loud. She said "Its not your buisiness!", and the like. I politely disagreed with her, TRIED stating my opinions (not like I could, she kept cutting me off), and got this statement thrown at me:
"WHAT YOU DID IS HARRASMENT! I'M SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING SUEING YOU FOR HARRASMENT!"

Ooo, is that another lawsuit threat?
(A note: All quotes are probably incorrect in exact wording, but are correct in what they convey and/or spirit)


tl;dr?
My teacher is a hoe, and has threatened to sue me and my friend for stupid, stupid things.

So, NSG, if I DO get thrown a lawsuit, my friend too, what do I do? My parents think it's hilarious, as do I, but what if it really happens?

Move to Tiajuana, Mexico :)

I've been suspended for being in a film my friend took while we were on school grounds. But seriously the whole "I'm going to sue argument" is childish. Just tell her to grow some skin.

You will do what everyone who is sued does. You should consult a lawyer, if you get the nice little love note from the court summoning you. If you do not recieve one, then do not worry, sit back and enjoy life.

On a side note, do not confront her anymore. At best she still has total control of your grades. It may not sound like much, but do you want to be stuck with her for another year if she fails you?

If she wins ANYTHING at all, I shall weep for the demise of your justice system.

What she's doing is utter, utter bullshit. Great, your friend filmed it, and showed a few people. For starters, it's not an invasion of privacy, because she's in a public area. People can see her....are they invading her privacy too?

Harassment? Bugger off. You made a sly little joke. Detention? Maybe. That would be justified. Lawsuit? She's crazy. If she takes you to court, she'll lose. Simple as that.

If she sues, just wait until her laughably weak case falls apart and then countersue the bitch for legal costs (plus some additional compensation for lulz).

You mean lawlsuits?

She probably won't take you to court. Most likely she was trying to scare you into submission.

And if she does find the time, effort, and finances to take you to court, just sit there and smile and let her make a fool of herself in front of the judge, at her own expense. :D

Oops. I posted with my puppet. :p (Yangol)

I'd sue her back for a traumatic experience, saying that the lawsuit threat, plus her harassment made you very ill, and you have to see a counselor now. Teach that bitch a lesson.

SNIP
On a side note, do not confront her anymore. At best she still has total control of your grades. It may not sound like much, but do you want to be stuck with her for another year if she fails you?

Heh, her grades don't count. At all. Pretty sweet deal.
But I will be trying harder not to confront her any more. It's pretty hard though, she tries to say some pretty stupid stuff. The week before she claimed that if I have a myspace (not that I post drugs on it, just have one in my name), I won't get a job until I get rid of it. Lol.

sounds like that teacher needs to get a quiet little desk job in a basement somewhere where people/kids/the world/life can't upset her in any way.

honestly i don't think she has a case from what you've said here (not that i have any legal knowledge, just that, if there was a case i would choke on my beer). if you have any suspicion that this might go further i would recommend seeking out a lawyer. i don't know where you're from so it might be different there but when i needed a lawyer last year i was able to get free representation. that was for a criminal, rather than a civil suit though.

The week before she claimed that if I have a myspace (not that I post drugs on it, just have one in my name), I won't get a job until I get rid of it. Lol.

Lolz. She's a bitch. Ignore her.

Heh, her grades don't count. At all. Pretty sweet deal.
But I will be trying harder not to confront her any more. It's pretty hard though, she tries to say some pretty stupid stuff. The week before she claimed that if I have a myspace (not that I post drugs on it, just have one in my name), I won't get a job until I get rid of it. Lol.

Oh well. In my experience why create strife when it is not needed. You will not be in her class much longer, so I am glad to hear that you will try to make it as tranquil as possible. Just remember if your teacher says anything that you find "stupid", just to laugh to yourself. It is better than starting WWIII, and even if you win you to gain absolutely nothing.

Heh, her grades don't count. At all. Pretty sweet deal.
But I will be trying harder not to confront her any more. It's pretty hard though, she tries to say some pretty stupid stuff. The week before she claimed that if I have a myspace (not that I post drugs on it, just have one in my name), I won't get a job until I get rid of it. Lol.

how do you post drugs on a myspace page?:eek:

this sounds interesting...

Soon, video cameras will be required in all classrooms. You're just ahead of the curve ;)

how do you post drugs on a myspace page?:eek:

this sounds interesting...

IDozer.








:p

IDozer.








:p

as in Opium? heh! i just learned of it. i love free downloads. was looking for Serenity earlier but the torrent i tried didn't work and the site i normally use didn't have it.

I just say get Lunatic Goofballs to teach her a lesson as he really knows how to make a point.

as in Opium? heh! i just learned of it. i love free downloads. was looking for Serenity earlier but the torrent i tried didn't work and the site i normally use didn't have it.

Idozer is pretty sweet, it works too! I tried the free trial, it was pretty good. I'm thinking of obtaining it soon.


Also, a note about my OP.
The teacher threatened a lawsuit to the first kid of $500. So me and him are bringing in monopoly $500's tomorrow. It will be guaranteed lulz, and possible detentions. I don't even care though, because this situation has put me in a position to create lulz for at least the rest of the year.

Also, a note about my OP.
The teacher threatened a lawsuit to the first kid of $500. So me and him are bringing in monopoly $500's tomorrow.

Please, please do this. If you do, I'll marry you.

I've been threatened with a lawsuit. By my teacher. Interested yet?

So I go to a Tech school. Half the year we learn stuff that people learn in normal high schools, and half the year we learn stuff about our trade. During the shop half of the year, we are required to go to a period of either Math or English a day. Now, before I begin my tale, I would like to note that these teachers that teach shop math and English are there for a reason, and that's because they aren't good enough to teach a real class. Moving on.

So last Thursday, I had English. We were doing some silly reports, and we had laptops, so no one was really paying attention. Not that we are being a bad and disruptive class, just we aren't really paying attention to what we are supposed to be doing. My teacher told me that my partner and I did not have to do this certain section of our project the day before, because of the nature of what we were researching and stuff. So she's looking through our stuff, after we claimed that we finished, and she told us that we still needed to do that. I told her, very politely, that she told us the day before we didnt have to. She said she didn't, and I must have misunderstood her. I told her, again politely, that she was wrong. So now she's yelling. I'm still being polite. My classmate next to me is covertly video taping the situation for future lulz. After about 3 times of her screaming at me, I said, "Well, if you're saying this today, and yesterday you said something else, then you must have been lying." So now she flips out. I get a detention, she pulls me out in the hall, blah blah blah. Lets skip forward to today.

Early today, the kid who was video taping was called down to the office. Somehow, no one is sure exactly how, the teacher found out about him taping the situation. She claimed that "he showed the whole school", and it was an invasion of her privacy. Hold it right there. First of all, no, he isn't supposed to have a video camera in school. But he certainly didn't show the whole school the video, in fact, he mearly showed people like me, who were there anyways, and then deleted it. Any guesses on his punishment? No? Ok.

1 day in school suspension (today), video camera taken away, and the possibility of 10 days OUT OF SCHOOL suspension, and A POSSIBLE LAWSUIT, FOR VIOLATION OF PRIVACY.
This is the first lawsuit threatened.

I found out, and the whole class is basically fed up with this teachers bs. I told my classmate I would take care of it.

I went up to her room to ask about my detention today, and on the way out I said,
"Oh, by the way, Good luck with the lawsuit!"

Now, I'm in detention. Shes screaming at me. Loud. She said "Its not your buisiness!", and the like. I politely disagreed with her, TRIED stating my opinions (not like I could, she kept cutting me off), and got this statement thrown at me:
"WHAT YOU DID IS HARRASMENT! I'M SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING SUEING YOU FOR HARRASMENT!"

Ooo, is that another lawsuit threat?
(A note: All quotes are probably incorrect in exact wording, but are correct in what they convey and/or spirit)


tl;dr?
My teacher is a hoe, and has threatened to sue me and my friend for stupid, stupid things.

So, NSG, if I DO get thrown a lawsuit, my friend too, what do I do? My parents think it's hilarious, as do I, but what if it really happens?

She's an idiot.

The teacher threatened a lawsuit to the first kid of $500. So me and him are bringing in monopoly $500's tomorrow. It will be guaranteed lulz, and possible detentions. I don't even care though, because this situation has put me in a position to create lulz for at least the rest of the year.

Obviously, the only way to settle this is in Internet Court.

Push her to take you to court. Seeing the evidence, and plus the support of your whole class, she will just make a fool of herself. She can't win. Plus it'll create more lulz for the rest of the year

Push her to take you to court. Seeing the evidence, and plus the support of your whole class, she will just make a fool of herself. She can't win. Plus it'll create more lulz for the rest of the year

except that unless you or your parents are made of money, pushing the issue to court can be very expensive.

except that unless you or your parents are made of money, pushing the issue to court can be very expensive.

countersue for legal costs

except that unless you or your parents are made of money, pushing the issue to court can be very expensive.

The other kids parent's are pretty rich, but I doubt it would get there even if I tried. What lawyer would take a case like that?

The other kids parent's are pretty rich, but I doubt it would get there even if I tried. What lawyer would take a case like that?

One that bills hourly. :D

*cue circus music*

Try to get this one on MTV's High School Stories. Sounds like a killer :p

I love idiocy like this.

ya know what, bonus points if you dress like a lawyer and/or judge and walk into class like that tomorrow.

*cue circus music*

Try to get this one on MTV's High School Stories. Sounds like a killer :p

I love idiocy like this.

ya know what, bonus points if you dress like a lawyer and/or judge and walk into class like that tomorrow.

I wish I could, but I don't have the class for a couple weeks.

I wish I could, but I don't have the class for a couple weeks.

So then do it when you go back! Where there's a will, there's a way!

Sacrifice her to our god!

Sacrifice her to our god!

???
Myrth?

Students should not be taping or recording teachers. Your friend deserves a much longer suspension than the one he got. If I recorded a student and showed it round my staffroom, I would be fired and investigated.

She sounds like a bad teacher, but is that any reason to make her life more difficult than it already is? You think that humiliating her in front of students who already don't respect her or have the common decency to treat her as a human being somehow makes you a better person? Behaviour like this is bullying if it is student-on-student. Why is it okay when it is done to a teacher?

If I were that kid my response would be, roughly, "Go ahead. Sue me. I've always wanted to see an entire school district's budget wasted on something pointless. Go ahead."

If I were that kid my response would be, roughly, "Go ahead. Sue me. I've always wanted to see an entire school district's budget wasted on something pointless. Go ahead."

Try the entire state of Connecticut. Tech schools are state schools.
How much fun would that be?

Students should not be taping or recording teachers.
What if a teacher is beating a kid? Should the kid be suspended for taping the teacher? Should we consider jail time for such a delinquent?

Your friend deserves a much longer suspension than the one he got. If I recorded a student and showed it round my staffroom, I would be fired and investigated.

Damn right you would. As it should be.


She sounds like a bad teacher, but is that any reason to make her life more difficult than it already is?

Yes.


who already don't respect her

A great problem with people in America today is adults don't think they have to earn the respect of people. They expect to have it already. This is bullshit.

have the common decency to treat her as a human being

Doesn't sound like they should.

Behaviour like this is bullying if it is student-on-student. Why is it okay when it is done to a teacher?

Because the teacher's a stupid, arrogant bitch. Like a great deal of them, unfortunately.

Try the entire state of Connecticut. Tech schools are state schools.
How much fun would that be?

They'd lose if they have a jury (Do they have juries in lawsuits? Only some of the time, right?) with even an ounce of common sense.

But it certainly would be more drawn out, so not as much fun, no.

They'd lose if they have a jury (Do they have juries in lawsuits? Only some of the time, right?) with even an ounce of common sense.

But it certainly would be more drawn out, so not as much fun, no.

In cases over 20 dollars, I believe.

And with your response to Akai, I agree completly. Especially this:

A great problem with people in America today is adults don't think they have to earn the respect of people. They expect to have it already. This is bullshit.
This teacher quit giving my class respect long ago. I showed her a lack of respect after minutes of her yelling at me. And even then, all I did was call her on her bullshit.

Should an adult have an expectation of privacy while in a position of authority over children?

I don't think so.

There is a difference between a teacher taping a student and a student taping a teacher.

Personally, I think ever class should be taped so that if there is a question about disciplinary action there is hard evidence. It's not right for things to always be student's word vs. teacher's word.

Should an adult have an expectation of privacy while in a position of authority over children?

I don't think so.

There is a difference between a teacher taping a student and a student taping a teacher.

Personally, I think ever class should be taped so that if there is a question about disciplinary action there is hard evidence. It's not right for things to always be student's word vs. teacher's word.

Especially, given the reluctance of many to admit to a mistake, school districts tend not to want to admit they were wrong, and therefore tend to value the teacher's word more than the kid's word. Why is it when it's younger kid vs. older kid, it's assumed the older kid is lying, but when it's teacher vs. student, it's assumed the kid is lying?

What if a teacher is beating a kid? Should the kid be suspended for taping the teacher? Should we consider jail time for such a delinquent?

What if the kid edits the recording or video to make it sound like the teacher is acting inappropriately? It has happened you know. Happened to me. A delightful young man screamed at me that I was a "fucking ****" among other lovely phrases, while recording the thing on video. He then edited the tape to make it sound like I was refusing to provide him help or assistance on a project, edited out all the abuse and then presented it to the deputy principal. Fortunately, that particular class liked me and was willing to report what actually happened.


Damn right you would. As it should be.

What if a kid is beating me? Threatening me? That happens far more routinely than a teacher threatening or beating a kid. Should I be fired for recording them then?



Yes.

Why? Why does it mean that an arrogant, snot-nosed little brat who thinks he knows how the world works should make her life harder than it already is? What happened to compassion and understanding?




A great problem with people in America today is adults don't think they have to earn the respect of people. They expect to have it already. This is bullshit.

I can't speak for America, but in Australia the problem is that kids think that they don't have to earn the respect of people. They expect to have it already. This is bullshit.



Doesn't sound like they should.

Why not? She's a human being, and maybe if they treated her with some respect, they might get it in return.



Because the teacher's a stupid, arrogant bitch. Like a great deal of them, unfortunately.

Funny, we say the same thing about many of our students.

Life on the other side of the desk is hard. Maybe some of you people ought to remember that.

Should an adult have an expectation of privacy while in a position of authority over children?

I don't think so.

There is a difference between a teacher taping a student and a student taping a teacher.

Personally, I think ever class should be taped so that if there is a question about disciplinary action there is hard evidence. It's not right for things to always be student's word vs. teacher's word.

I agree completely. Then I wouldn't have to write long reports justifying my actions when some little brat threatens to throw a desk at me because I asked him to leave the room rather than sexually harassing one of the girls. I wouldn't have to write about what I should have done better so as not to upset the poor little boy. It would be there for the world to see.

In cases over 20 dollars, I believe.

And with your response to Akai, I agree completly. Especially this:


This teacher quit giving my class respect long ago. I showed her a lack of respect after minutes of her yelling at me. And even then, all I did was call her on her bullshit.

I'm not trying to defend this particular teacher. I think she was an idiot. But to react the way you did, is no better than her.

What if the kid edits the recording or video to make it sound like the teacher is acting inappropriately? It has happened you know. Happened to me. A delightful young man screamed at me that I was a "fucking ****" among other lovely phrases, while recording the thing on video. He then edited the tape to make it sound like I was refusing to provide him help or assistance on a project, edited out all the abuse and then presented it to the deputy principal. Fortunately, that particular class liked me and was willing to report what actually happened.




What if a kid is beating me? Threatening me? That happens far more routinely than a teacher threatening or beating a kid. Should I be fired for recording them then?





Why? Why does it mean that an arrogant, snot-nosed little brat who thinks he knows how the world works should make her life harder than it already is? What happened to compassion and understanding?






I can't speak for America, but in Australia the problem is that kids think that they don't have to earn the respect of people. They expect to have it already. This is bullshit.




Why not? She's a human being, and maybe if they treated her with some respect, they might get it in return.




Funny, we say the same thing about many of our students.

Life on the other side of the desk is hard. Maybe some of you people ought to remember that.

You have a distorted view of this due to working as a teacher. You are unable to consider this situation rationally.

Akai, I agree with you that the delinquents can be tough to deal with, but let me assure you that schools like mine are almost completly devoid of them. In the tech school district here, you don't get suspended for a huge amount of time if you're acting up terribly, you get sent back to your sending school. That, and the fact that shop punishments (aka work) are far worse than detentions or suspensions, basically weeds out all the 'bad apples' as you teachers would call them by the end of freshman year.

My mother was a high school teacher, and I understand what teachers go through. But let me assure you, the lack of respect given by this teacher far exceeded any lack of respect we ever gave her.

Plus, the kid was recording her yelling at me for personal lulz. He wasn't planning on putting it on youtube, or to get her in trouble. Hell, he deleted it right after he showed me!

Plus, the kid was recording her yelling at me for personal lulz. He wasn't planning on putting it on youtube or anything. Hell, he deleted it right after he showed me!

Which is really a shame, given what the teacher is doing now.

You have a distorted view of this due to working as a teacher. You are unable to consider this situation rationally.

I am simply trying to present a different side to this situation. I think the teacher acted completely unprofessionally. But teachers are human, and whether they are good, bad, or indifferent, they do not deserve to be humiliated in the manner in which they are. Students always have justifications for their actions, often they are right. But that doesn't mean that they should act in the manner in which they did.

Which is really a shame, given what the teacher is doing now.

He probably could have saved himself from the next day of ISS he's getting tommrow, as well as the potential OSS's.

Luckily for us, the administration at my school is perhaps the best administration you could possibly ask for. They don't act on personal bias, they don't blindly follow the rules, they simply do what's right in the situation given.

Example: Another kid that day got in trouble for saying 'boobs'. The vice principal told him he still had to serve the detention, but agreed it was wrong, and proceeded to tell a funny story about how he talks about other womens boobs in front of his wife for laughs.

Akai, I agree with you that the delinquents can be tough to deal with, but let me assure you that schools like mine are almost completly devoid of them. In the tech school district here, you don't get suspended for a huge amount of time if you're acting up terribly, you get sent back to your sending school. That, and the fact that shop punishments (aka work) are far worse than detentions or suspensions, basically weeds out all the 'bad apples' as you teachers would call them by the end of freshman year.

My mother was a high school teacher, and I understand what teachers go through. But let me assure you, the lack of respect given by this teacher far exceeded any lack of respect we ever gave her.

Plus, the kid was recording her yelling at me for personal lulz. He wasn't planning on putting it on youtube, or to get her in trouble. Hell, he deleted it right after he showed me!

I'm not trying to defend this teacher. She acted completely unprofessionally, and inappropriately, and should have expected what was coming. But that doesn't mean she deserved it, or that you and your friends should have sunk to her level. That's all I'm saying.

On the other, I don't really care why he was recording her. As long as she was doing it in front of witnesses and was not doing anything illegal, your friend should not have recorded her. How would you feel if your mother was recorded by a student for "personal lulz" as you call it?

I'm not trying to defend this teacher. She acted completely unprofessionally, and inappropriately, and should have expected what was coming. But that doesn't mean she deserved it, or that you and your friends should have sunk to her level. That's all I'm saying.

On the other, I don't really care why he was recording her. As long as she was doing it in front of witnesses and was not doing anything illegal, your friend should not have recorded her. How would you feel if your mother was recorded by a student for "personal lulz" as you call it?

I'd ask what she was doing to deserve it. But then again, thats me, with the utter lack of values.
Actually, the teacher used the same argument on me today. It is the best argument against what he was doing, but I suppose I'm the wrong person to use it on.
I'm not arguing that he shouldn't have gotten in trouble at all though. While I disagree with this for obvious reasons, you aren't allowed to use electronics in school. And video taping in school is probably a bad idea too. What I do disagree with is the lawsuit possibility, as well as 10 days OSS. That's usually reserved for vandalism and big fights.

On the other, I don't really care why he was recording her. As long as she was doing it in front of witnesses and was not doing anything illegal, your friend should not have recorded her.

If she was doing it in front of witnesses and wasn't doing anything illegal, why is she worried about kids recording her?


I know this sounds like big brother, but teachers should be monitored.

If she was doing it in front of witnesses and wasn't doing anything illegal, why is she worried about kids recording her?I can't speak for this teacher in particular, but I don't like the idea of kids recording me when I am teaching. I don't want to end up on their myspace, or on youtube. I also don't want the situation which happened to me last year to happen again. Kids are very tech-savvy.



I know this sounds like big brother, but teachers should be monitored.

So should students.

I'd ask what she was doing to deserve it. But then again, thats me, with the utter lack of values.
Actually, the teacher used the same argument on me today. It is the best argument against what he was doing, but I suppose I'm the wrong person to use it on.
I'm not arguing that he shouldn't have gotten in trouble at all though. While I disagree with this for obvious reasons, you aren't allowed to use electronics in school. And video taping in school is probably a bad idea too. What I do disagree with is the lawsuit possibility, as well as 10 days OSS. That's usually reserved for vandalism and big fights.

The lawsuit part I disagree with. But I think the 10 days is reasonable, if a little light. In my school, depending on circumstances, kids would get 15 days.

Kids should have every right to record their teachers, especially when their teachers are out of line. Guess what, the kids aren't in the position of authority. If a teacher is out of line, a child should not be punished for gathering and distributing proof of their misbehaviour. The same is true of police and government officials.

A classroom is a public place. You have no right to privacy in a public place.

I've been threatened with a lawsuit. By my teacher. Interested yet?

So I go to a Tech school. Half the year we learn stuff that people learn in normal high schools, and half the year we learn stuff about our trade. During the shop half of the year, we are required to go to a period of either Math or English a day. Now, before I begin my tale, I would like to note that these teachers that teach shop math and English are there for a reason, and that's because they aren't good enough to teach a real class. Moving on.

So last Thursday, I had English. We were doing some silly reports, and we had laptops, so no one was really paying attention. Not that we are being a bad and disruptive class, just we aren't really paying attention to what we are supposed to be doing. My teacher told me that my partner and I did not have to do this certain section of our project the day before, because of the nature of what we were researching and stuff. So she's looking through our stuff, after we claimed that we finished, and she told us that we still needed to do that. I told her, very politely, that she told us the day before we didnt have to. She said she didn't, and I must have misunderstood her. I told her, again politely, that she was wrong. So now she's yelling. I'm still being polite. My classmate next to me is covertly video taping the situation for future lulz. After about 3 times of her screaming at me, I said, "Well, if you're saying this today, and yesterday you said something else, then you must have been lying." So now she flips out. I get a detention, she pulls me out in the hall, blah blah blah. Lets skip forward to today.

Early today, the kid who was video taping was called down to the office. Somehow, no one is sure exactly how, the teacher found out about him taping the situation. She claimed that "he showed the whole school", and it was an invasion of her privacy. Hold it right there. First of all, no, he isn't supposed to have a video camera in school. But he certainly didn't show the whole school the video, in fact, he mearly showed people like me, who were there anyways, and then deleted it. Any guesses on his punishment? No? Ok.

1 day in school suspension (today), video camera taken away, and the possibility of 10 days OUT OF SCHOOL suspension, and A POSSIBLE LAWSUIT, FOR VIOLATION OF PRIVACY.
This is the first lawsuit threatened.

I found out, and the whole class is basically fed up with this teachers bs. I told my classmate I would take care of it.

I went up to her room to ask about my detention today, and on the way out I said,
"Oh, by the way, Good luck with the lawsuit!"

Now, I'm in detention. Shes screaming at me. Loud. She said "Its not your buisiness!", and the like. I politely disagreed with her, TRIED stating my opinions (not like I could, she kept cutting me off), and got this statement thrown at me:
"WHAT YOU DID IS HARRASMENT! I'M SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING SUEING YOU FOR HARRASMENT!"

Ooo, is that another lawsuit threat?
(A note: All quotes are probably incorrect in exact wording, but are correct in what they convey and/or spirit)


tl;dr?
My teacher is a hoe, and has threatened to sue me and my friend for stupid, stupid things.

So, NSG, if I DO get thrown a lawsuit, my friend too, what do I do? My parents think it's hilarious, as do I, but what if it really happens?

I can only imagine this happening at a fundy school...

If she was doing it in front of witnesses and wasn't doing anything illegal, why is she worried about kids recording her?


I know this sounds like big brother, but teachers should be monitored.

EVERYONE should be monitored so that NO ONE gets out of line.....

I can only imagine this happening at a fundy school...

I can assure you that a state school is almost as far as you can possibly get from a 'fundy school'.

I can assure you that a state school is almost as far as you can possibly get from a 'fundy school'.

I am shocked.:eek: Things are pretty tight on teachers where I live, she would have been fired early on, the liberal school board rules the staff with an iron fist. This is the first time I heard of a non-fundy teacher twisting the law for her own benefit. :eek:

Kids should have every right to record their teachers, especially when their teachers are out of line. Guess what, the kids aren't in the position of authority. If a teacher is out of line, a child should not be punished for gathering and distributing proof of their misbehaviour. The same is true of police and government officials.

A classroom is a public place. You have no right to privacy in a public place.

Define out of line. And do I have the same right to collect evidence when a student tells me that I make kids in the class really wet, or threatens me with a desk or something similar?

I have no issue with teachers being recorded in the classroom. Mainly because I would like evidence to shove up the arse of little Joan or Tommy's parents when they tell me their child would never behave like that. But guess what? Students aren't trustworthy, they aren't honest, and they aren't impartial observers. Students have manipulated recordings and video from their cell phones or video cams to make the teacher look bad. See my personal experience.

Students and teachers should both be recorded. However, students should not be allowed to record teachers themselves, because there is no guarantee that the student will record all events appropriately or present the evidence in an unbiased way.

I am shocked.:eek: Things are pretty tight on teachers where I live, she would have been fired early on, the liberal school board rules the staff with an iron fist. This is the first time I heard of a non-fundy teacher twisting the law for her own benefit. :eek:

You don't even try to be serious anymore, do you? :p

You don't even try to be serious anymore, do you? :p

:D

UNITIHU, if you want I can make a game with gamemaker making fun of her, it can be a platform shooter where you have to ovoid the oily 'words' she shoots at you and the lawsuit ninja stars she has. ;)

Lawls detention

So should students.

On school grounds, sure. To a point. Locker searches are fine. Emptying out a kid's backpack is not. The locker's school property, but the backpack is not. Teachers should be monitored much more than students.

Define out of line. And do I have the same right to collect evidence when a student tells me that I make kids in the class really wet, or threatens me with a desk or something similar?

I have no issue with teachers being recorded in the classroom. Mainly because I would like evidence to shove up the arse of little Joan or Tommy's parents when they tell me their child would never behave like that. But guess what? Students aren't trustworthy, they aren't honest, and they aren't impartial observers.

Bam. Like I said, you are unable to discuss this rationally. I have tried to avoid coming right out and saying most teachers are stupid, pigheaded, bullies who only become teachers so they could finally have some power. You sound like one of those teachers to me. And narcissistic, by the sounds of the first thing I highlighted.

On this note anything said in a classroom on our campus (as SHOULD be) is to be considered public property and therefore have no expectation of privacy

Classes can be monitored for quality and learning materials (meaning students may audio or video tape any lecture as long as it does not interfere with the presentation of class (at least without prior approval that is such as through the learning disabilities department)

Bam. Like I said, you are unable to discuss this rationally. I have tried to avoid coming right out and saying most teachers are stupid, pigheaded, bullies who only become teachers so they could finally have some power. You sound like one of those teachers to me. And narcissistic, by the sounds of the first thing I highlighted.

Well to be fair outside of general level courses I find college level teachers to be a joy to work with for the most part (probably why I am a part time one)... I find many that absolutely love what they do and love the subject they teach (at least in anything decently high level)

Below that and tech collages ... sometimes different story

Well to be fair outside of general level courses I find college level teachers to be a joy to work with for the most part (probably why I am a part time one)... I find many that absolutely love what they do and love the subject they teach (at least in anything decently high level)

Below that and tech collages ... sometimes different story

Teachers who are understanding and love what they teach are some of the best people on earth.

The teachers tend to get better as you get older, I think.

Well to be fair outside of general level courses I find college level teachers to be a joy to work with for the most part (probably why I am a part time one)... I find many that absolutely love what they do and love the subject they teach (at least in anything decently high level)

Below that and tech collages ... sometimes different story

It's pretty true to say that the people stuck teaching the low-level uni classes are either crotchety old adjuncts who are disliked by the rest of the department, or young adjuncts/associate professors who are still learning the ropes.

The latter get better. The former get tenure.

It's pretty true to say that the people stuck teaching the low-level uni classes are either crotchety old adjuncts who are disliked by the rest of the department, or young adjuncts/associate professors who are still learning the ropes.

The latter get better. The former get tenure.

Thank god the department I started for allowed me (an ajunct) to teach graduate levels

My power is in my technical skills and understanding, and they used me to my full advantage and I love it

Countersue her into a sex slave. :D

Teachers always abuse their power and students have very few rights...I should be a maverick teacher...

Countersue her into a sex slave. :D

Teachers always abuse their power and students have very few rights...I should be a maverick teacher...

I hardly call tech college profs "Teachers"

I was browsing through job listings for the area today and north henipin tech college had a professor position open

BS was OPTIONAL (thats right you do not even have to have graduated college to teach at a "college") No teaching experience was required and no degree of any sort

I not trying to badmouth throes without degrees but you would figure teachers at that level should either have some teaching education or some higher education in the field they are planning to teach.

You have a distorted view of this due to working as a teacher. You are unable to consider this situation rationally.

Wouldn't the same be true of you as you've been a student?

My take after reading the thread is that we don't have the teacher's side of this story and even the student's side make him sound like he should live in detention. If you're having a problem with your teacher you should take it to school authorities. Speaking to authorities this way puts you in a bad position.

Everyone else is encouraging a child to behave in a manner that most certainly could jepoardize his/her future. It's irresponsible and absurd. IF this story is being reported accurately, at the very least, everyone involved is in the wrong. Everyone.

U, it sounds like you're behaving childishly and that's by your own description. You can choose to rise above so you really do have the high ground or play the part of the fool. However, when you play the fool expect to be treated like one.

Bam. Like I said, you are unable to discuss this rationally. I have tried to avoid coming right out and saying most teachers are stupid, pigheaded, bullies who only become teachers so they could finally have some power. You sound like one of those teachers to me. And narcissistic, by the sounds of the first thing I highlighted.

You haven't avoided it all. You've said that all along. Pretending you're being rational while you are painting with an equally broad brush to the one your crying against is less than honest, don't you think?

Stop trying to pretend you've got the high ground here while you press a student to behave in a manner not appropriate and you press another poster for behaving, well, identical to you.

"Well, if you're saying this today, and yesterday you said something else, then you must have been lying."

Your teacher is a jerk and an incompetent to boot, but this was a very stupid thing to say. Next time, a "you must have forgotten" could be a better idea.

She claimed that "he showed the whole school", and it was an invasion of her privacy.
Privacy? You aren't supposed to enjoy your "privacy" when you're in a crowded school class, are you? "Privacy" is for "private" businesses.


1 day in school suspension (today), video camera taken away, and the possibility of 10 days OUT OF SCHOOL suspension, and A POSSIBLE LAWSUIT, FOR VIOLATION OF PRIVACY.
I wonder who'll be the moronic lawyer that's willing to take up the plaintiff's side in this idiotic lawsuit.


I went up to her room to ask about my detention today, and on the way out I said, "Oh, by the way, Good luck with the lawsuit!"
Again, you relish in attrition, don't you? Grow out of it. If she's an idiot, why waste time with her?


Now, I'm in detention. Shes screaming at me. Loud. She said "Its not your buisiness!", and the like. I politely disagreed with her, TRIED stating my opinions (not like I could, she kept cutting me off), and got this statement thrown at me:
"WHAT YOU DID IS HARRASMENT! I'M SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING SUEING YOU FOR HARRASMENT!"
Don't answer. She's clearly too stupid, and stupid people don't deserve answers, or debating with them.

So, NSG, if I DO get thrown a lawsuit, my friend too, what do I do? My parents think it's hilarious, as do I, but what if it really happens?
You win. You get a lot of money and the head of the teacher on a silver plate.

HAHA
Update!

Today I was told by the school police officer and the principal that I could be charged with criminal conspiracy, as well as the other kid, if it was 'discovered' that we planned taping the class before hand. This situation is getting crazier and crazier by the day.

I would like to note that I won't be doing anything else to this teacher at all. She could claim the internet causes AIDS, and I wouldn't argue with her.

I would like to note that I won't be doing anything else to this teacher at all. She could claim the internet causes AIDS, and I wouldn't argue with her.

That is a wise choice in a series of terribly stupid choices.

That is a wise choice in a series of terribly stupid choices.

A series, eh? I suppose in a technical sense, a series could be one or two, aye? But I digress, I wanna know this series. For future reference, of course.

I've been threatened with a lawsuit. By my teacher. Interested yet?

So I go to a Tech school. Half the year we learn stuff that people learn in normal high schools, and half the year we learn stuff about our trade. During the shop half of the year, we are required to go to a period of either Math or English a day. Now, before I begin my tale, I would like to note that these teachers that teach shop math and English are there for a reason, and that's because they aren't good enough to teach a real class. Moving on.

So last Thursday, I had English. We were doing some silly reports, and we had laptops, so no one was really paying attention. Not that we are being a bad and disruptive class, just we aren't really paying attention to what we are supposed to be doing. My teacher told me that my partner and I did not have to do this certain section of our project the day before, because of the nature of what we were researching and stuff. So she's looking through our stuff, after we claimed that we finished, and she told us that we still needed to do that. I told her, very politely, that she told us the day before we didnt have to. She said she didn't, and I must have misunderstood her. I told her, again politely, that she was wrong. So now she's yelling. I'm still being polite. My classmate next to me is covertly video taping the situation for future lulz. After about 3 times of her screaming at me, I said, "Well, if you're saying this today, and yesterday you said something else, then you must have been lying." So now she flips out. I get a detention, she pulls me out in the hall, blah blah blah. Lets skip forward to today.

Early today, the kid who was video taping was called down to the office. Somehow, no one is sure exactly how, the teacher found out about him taping the situation. She claimed that "he showed the whole school", and it was an invasion of her privacy. Hold it right there. First of all, no, he isn't supposed to have a video camera in school. But he certainly didn't show the whole school the video, in fact, he mearly showed people like me, who were there anyways, and then deleted it. Any guesses on his punishment? No? Ok.

1 day in school suspension (today), video camera taken away, and the possibility of 10 days OUT OF SCHOOL suspension, and A POSSIBLE LAWSUIT, FOR VIOLATION OF PRIVACY.
This is the first lawsuit threatened.

I found out, and the whole class is basically fed up with this teachers bs. I told my classmate I would take care of it.

I went up to her room to ask about my detention today, and on the way out I said,
"Oh, by the way, Good luck with the lawsuit!"

Now, I'm in detention. Shes screaming at me. Loud. She said "Its not your buisiness!", and the like. I politely disagreed with her, TRIED stating my opinions (not like I could, she kept cutting me off), and got this statement thrown at me:
"WHAT YOU DID IS HARRASMENT! I'M SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING SUEING YOU FOR HARRASMENT!"

Ooo, is that another lawsuit threat?
(A note: All quotes are probably incorrect in exact wording, but are correct in what they convey and/or spirit)


tl;dr?
My teacher is a hoe, and has threatened to sue me and my friend for stupid, stupid things.

So, NSG, if I DO get thrown a lawsuit, my friend too, what do I do? My parents think it's hilarious, as do I, but what if it really happens?

is this a private school or a public school cause the invasion of privacy issue depends on that

is this a private school or a public school cause the invasion of privacy issue depends on that

Public in the strictest sense. It's run by the state. Lets put it this way, every single item in the entire school bigger than a screwdriver has a barcode on it, so the state can keep track of it.

A series, eh? I suppose in a technical sense, a series could be one or two, aye? But I digress, I wanna know this series. For future reference, of course.

Well, let's see. Taunting the teacher, talking back to the teacher, taunting the teacher, rinse and repeat.

I've been threatened with a lawsuit. By my teacher. Interested yet?

So I go to a Tech school. Half the year we learn stuff that people learn in normal high schools, and half the year we learn stuff about our trade. During the shop half of the year, we are required to go to a period of either Math or English a day. Now, before I begin my tale, I would like to note that these teachers that teach shop math and English are there for a reason, and that's because they aren't good enough to teach a real class. Moving on.

So last Thursday, I had English. We were doing some silly reports, and we had laptops, so no one was really paying attention. Not that we are being a bad and disruptive class, just we aren't really paying attention to what we are supposed to be doing. My teacher told me that my partner and I did not have to do this certain section of our project the day before, because of the nature of what we were researching and stuff. So she's looking through our stuff, after we claimed that we finished, and she told us that we still needed to do that. I told her, very politely, that she told us the day before we didnt have to. She said she didn't, and I must have misunderstood her. I told her, again politely, that she was wrong. So now she's yelling. I'm still being polite. My classmate next to me is covertly video taping the situation for future lulz. After about 3 times of her screaming at me, I said, "Well, if you're saying this today, and yesterday you said something else, then you must have been lying." So now she flips out. I get a detention, she pulls me out in the hall, blah blah blah. Lets skip forward to today.

Early today, the kid who was video taping was called down to the office. Somehow, no one is sure exactly how, the teacher found out about him taping the situation. She claimed that "he showed the whole school", and it was an invasion of her privacy. Hold it right there. First of all, no, he isn't supposed to have a video camera in school. But he certainly didn't show the whole school the video, in fact, he mearly showed people like me, who were there anyways, and then deleted it. Any guesses on his punishment? No? Ok.

1 day in school suspension (today), video camera taken away, and the possibility of 10 days OUT OF SCHOOL suspension, and A POSSIBLE LAWSUIT, FOR VIOLATION OF PRIVACY.
This is the first lawsuit threatened.

I found out, and the whole class is basically fed up with this teachers bs. I told my classmate I would take care of it.

I went up to her room to ask about my detention today, and on the way out I said,
"Oh, by the way, Good luck with the lawsuit!"

Now, I'm in detention. Shes screaming at me. Loud. She said "Its not your buisiness!", and the like. I politely disagreed with her, TRIED stating my opinions (not like I could, she kept cutting me off), and got this statement thrown at me:
"WHAT YOU DID IS HARRASMENT! I'M SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING SUEING YOU FOR HARRASMENT!"

Ooo, is that another lawsuit threat?
(A note: All quotes are probably incorrect in exact wording, but are correct in what they convey and/or spirit)


tl;dr?
My teacher is a hoe, and has threatened to sue me and my friend for stupid, stupid things.

So, NSG, if I DO get thrown a lawsuit, my friend too, what do I do? My parents think it's hilarious, as do I, but what if it really happens?

She'll lose. He was part of the conversation, therefore he has a right to record it, with or without the teacher's knowledge. He can still be punished for having the camera, but that's it. 9th grade political science FTW.

Bam. Like I said, you are unable to discuss this rationally. I have tried to avoid coming right out and saying most teachers are stupid, pigheaded, bullies who only become teachers so they could finally have some power. You sound like one of those teachers to me.


No I am simply trying to present what teachers have to deal with. I am one of the only teachers who goes to the defence of students who misbehave badly in school. I am one of the few teachers who is willing to work with the kids that noone else wants to because I enjoy it. But unlike so many of the people on this board, I am not naive about students. Just like teachers are not shining paragons of virtue, neither are students. They do lie, they do manipulate situations, they are dishonest. Not most of them, but a small minority. And I do get annoyed at parents who when I explain their child's behaviour to them, tell me to my face that I am lying, that their child would never behave in that way, their child doesn't even know what those words mean. Were it on tape, I could prove to those parents that their children are in full control of those vernacular elements.


And narcissistic, by the sounds of the first thing I highlighted.
And by the way, learn to read. I am not narcissistic. I was quoting a male student who shouted that out to me in front of a class, my first week at my first school. When I called his name on the roll, before you accuse me of doing something to cause it, like the principal, deputy, and my Head of Department. I spent a lunchhour with these people, explaining why this situation had occurred; was I wearing inappropriate clothing, had I said something to make the student think that was ok, did I make a suggestive comment in any way, or a comment that could be misconstrued as suggestive.

Being a teacher in no way makes me more irrational than a student. All it means is that I have different experiences that mean I have a different perspective on things.

Were I to say that all students are arseholes who don't deserve my time, and who are disgusting, delinquent little animals, because of a few bad experiences, then I would be irrational. All I am doing is presenting my experiences, and my take on the situation.

HAHA
Update!

Today I was told by the school police officer and the principal that I could be charged with criminal conspiracy, as well as the other kid, if it was 'discovered' that we planned taping the class before hand. This situation is getting crazier and crazier by the day.

I would like to note that I won't be doing anything else to this teacher at all. She could claim the internet causes AIDS, and I wouldn't argue with her.

Meh just leave her to it. She can't win.