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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6517155.stm


Granted just a magazine poll, but still nice to see Star Wars put in it's place, and Firefly put in it's.

Whut?

You dun messed up, dude.

Great use of copy+paste. :p

Most humorous mispasting I've seen in a while..

that appears to be a link to a brand new paedo poster.

Your link = *Snipped post made by a DOS* Bye bye :)

I mean, Star Wars has got to be more entertaining than that, eh? :p

Thought I'd give a link to the story (I assume) this thread is about:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6517155.stm

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Thought I'd give a link to the story (I assume) this thread is about:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6517155.stm

1. Serenity
2. Star Wars (pictured)
3. Blade Runner
4. Planet of the Apes
5. The Matrix
6. Alien
7. Forbidden Planet
8. 2001: A Space Odyssey
9. The Terminator
10. Back to the Future


Hmmm... As George Lucas fucked up Star Wars with the new trilogy, the glory of the original one has diminished somewhat... And Firefly and Serenity was fantastic...

But still, I have to say that Star Wars remains, in my mind, the greatest Sci Fi movie ever, with Serenity being a strong runner up.

I'm happy because I love them both :)

I'm missing Aliens on the list, and Planet of the Apes can go take in an off-Broadway show.

Which Planet of the Apes, though? If the remake made the list, then the entire list is complete shite.

http://www.p0stwh0res.com/images/pwned3.jpg

I busted a gut when I saw that. :D

As for the OP:



Granted just a magazine poll, but still nice to see Star Wars put in it's place, and Firefly put in it's.

Echuta! :p

You Lando, you.....

Hmmm... As George Lucas fucked up Star Wars with the new trilogy, the glory of the original one has diminished somewhat... And Firefly and Serenity was fantastic...

But still, I have to say that Star Wars remains, in my mind, the greatest Sci Fi movie ever, with Serenity being a strong runner up.

I'm happy because I love them both :)

I'm missing Aliens on the list, and Planet of the Apes can go take in an off-Broadway show.
I hate every ape I see, from Chimpan-A to chimpan-z
Oh you'll never make a monkey out of-

Oh my God! I was wrong!
It was Earth all along!
Oh you finally made a monkey
Yes we finally made a monkey
We/you finally made a monkey out of me!!!!!!!!!!

Which Planet of the Apes, though? If the remake made the list, then the entire list is complete shite.
Ain't that the truth.

I hate every ape I see, from Chimpan-A to chimpan-z
Oh you'll never make a monkey out of-

Oh my God! I was wrong!
It was Earth all along!
Oh you finally made a monkey
Yes we finally made a monkey
We/you finally made a monkey out of me!!!!!!!!!!
:D

Ain't that the truth.
Amen!

Hmmm... As George Lucas fucked up Star Wars with the new trilogy, the glory of the original one has diminished somewhat... And Firefly and Serenity was fantastic...

But still, I have to say that Star Wars remains, in my mind, the greatest Sci Fi movie ever, with Serenity being a strong runner up.

I'm happy because I love them both :)

I'm missing Aliens on the list, and Planet of the Apes can go take in an off-Broadway show.

you can't take the sky from me :p

why is The Matrix on the list

i thought serenity was supposed to be shit? don't know anything about it but i'm sure that was the impression i got at the time.

star wars is still probably the best i've seen, cuz it wasn't afraid to be humourous. so much scifi seems to take itself ridiculously seriously.

why is The Matrix on the list

Because the first Matrix actually is a very good movie - as opposed to Matrix part 2 and 3. Especially the third...

*Shivers*
*Vomits*

i thought serenity was supposed to be shit? don't know anything about it but i'm sure that was the impression i got at the time.

star wars is still probably the best i've seen, cuz it wasn't afraid to be humourous. so much scifi seems to take itself ridiculously seriously.

Really? I was having the opposite problem, that sci fi was to reliant on the nod and the wink, the action movie one liner joke cracking that went right before each overblown special effects sequence. In that respect Firefly/Serenity fits in just fine. It's why I can't watch Stargate.

Which is not to say that I don't like a little humor or sci fi that doesn't take itself too seriously, my favorite author is Stanislaw Lem in that respect, but it seems the Star Trek formula of 'cowboys in outerspace' seems to be what I run into more often than not, and part of why I LOVE Battlestar Galactica.

What Star Wars did, and then probably over did, was put effects in every frame so that it wasn't so much special as it was the world that the characters lived in.

The only one's I have seen out of them are Star Wars, Terminator, Matrix, Planet of the Apes and Back to the Future. I recon the first three are on there own plane of existence for there pure brilliance. But the matrix is just slightly better than the others because it actually makes you think, whereas the others are just about spaceships, guns and explosions. :)

I’m still waiting for a film of Farscape, one the best Sc-Fi's ever.

Because the first Matrix actually is a very good movie - as opposed to Matrix part 2 and 3. Especially the third...

*Shivers*
*Vomits*

only saw it once an don't recall much of it

I busted a gut when I saw that. :D

I thought it appropriate. ;)

I wish Firefly hadn't been cancelled. :(

I wish Firefly hadn't been cancelled. :(

an thanks to the movie if they did bring it back it be hard to get use to the new people on the crew

Didn't even bother with Star trek on the poll I see. :D

Didn't even bother with Star trek on the poll I see. :D

And rightly so ;)

an thanks to the movie if they did bring it back it be hard to get use to the new people on the crew

Yep, but i'd rather have the movie than nothing.

But here's hoping for a different series set in the same universe one day. You never know.

Yep, but i'd rather have the movie than nothing.

But here's hoping for a different series set in the same universe one day. You never know.

i hope so i just love to see someone get thrown out a window thats not a window

Didn't even bother with Star trek on the poll I see. :D
Didn't the last one of those have Picard punching his clone (because everyone will have a clone in the future) in the face?
Still, you've got to respect a franchise that can spawn 9 box-office successes.

I doubt its credibility. And the BBC poll begs to differ.

i thought serenity was supposed to be shit? don't know anything about it but i'm sure that was the impression i got at the time.

star wars is still probably the best i've seen, cuz it wasn't afraid to be humourous. so much scifi seems to take itself ridiculously seriously.

Serenity/Firefly works if you are not expecting it to be Star Wars. If you like good scripting, good acting and a nicely directed and produced product, you might like Firefly. If you can watch a series, and get a smile on your face because the 'surprise' in the last episode has had a number of clues throughout the season, you might like Firefly. If you liked "Red Dwarf", you might like Firefly.

It's a clever product. It looks great (sometimes it looks terrible, but it's supposed to... like realism added by camera-shake on an entirely CGI shot). If it has a failing, I'm inclined to believe it is, a lot of Americans didn't like the idea we might be partners with China in our future.

Didn't the last one of those have Picard punching his clone (because everyone will have a clone in the future) in the face?
Still, you've got to respect a franchise that can spawn 9 box-office successes.

I think everyone dreams about being able to punch their duplicate. I know I do. :p

I suspect a well organised nerd campaign. The star wars nerds have grown complacent.

Serenity/Firefly works if you are not expecting it to be Star Wars. If you like good scripting, good acting and a nicely directed and produced product, you might like Firefly. If you can watch a series, and get a smile on your face because the 'surprise' in the last episode has had a number of clues throughout the season, you might like Firefly. If you liked "Red Dwarf", you might like Firefly.

It's a clever product. It looks great (sometimes it looks terrible, but it's supposed to... like realism added by camera-shake on an entirely CGI shot). If it has a failing, I'm inclined to believe it is, a lot of Americans didn't like the idea we might be partners with China in our future.

ha Red Dwarf sometime back they were talking of making a movie of it

ha Red Dwarf sometime back they were talking of making a movie of it

They've talked about it, on and off, for years.

The thing that I'd hate, is for it to get the go ahead... and have none of the actual cast.. just another hollywood remake mistake.

They've talked about it, on and off, for years.

The thing that I'd hate, is for it to get the go ahead... and have none of the actual cast.. just another hollywood remake mistake.

that would be shit if that happens

Didn't even bother with Star trek on the poll I see. :D

Enterprise and the last couple films have killed that franchise. We used to be able to look forward to the even numbered movies! Then they give us Nemesis! Ugh.

Enterprise and the last couple films have killed that franchise. We used to be able to look forward to the even numbered movies! Then they give us Nemesis! Ugh.

I can't argue with that. Nemesis was awful.

I suspect a well organised nerd campaign. The star wars nerds have grown complacent.
Grown disillusioned may be more like it...

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Grown disillusioned may be more like it...

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5308/motivator8872668di5.jpg

Yes, if there is any lifeform that needs to be wiped out it is the Gungans. Worse than those damn Rodians. Oh and Weequays as well.

All I have to say is Shiny :)

Yes, if there is any lifeform that needs to be wiped out it is the Gungans. Worse than those damn Rodians. Oh and Weequays as well.


I prefer Rodians to the bloody Jawas.

I prefer Rodians to the bloody Jawas.

I forgot about Jawas! As C-3PO would say "Disgusting creatures!"

Jawa's are much better than Rodians, on principle that I have to disagree with Cluichstan on Scifi :) Honestly though, the jawa's are like desert creatures that sound like ewoks, and one of the few things that can one shot R2, how could one not like them better

Star Wars > *. Period. :gundge:

Jawa's are much better than Rodians, on principle that I have to disagree with Cluichstan on Scifi :) Honestly though, the jawa's are like desert creatures that sound like ewoks, and one of the few things that can one shot R2, how could one not like them better

Ewoks are far worse than Rodians, too.

Yes, if there is any lifeform that needs to be wiped out it is the Gungans. Worse than those damn Rodians. Oh and Weequays as well.

If you play SWG, you get a Legacy Quest to wipe out bands of gungans. It is most satisfying. :D

And Weequays are great if only for their Force Pikes. :P

Oh come on, the ewoks took down a legion of the empire's best troops with minimum losses, how can anyone hate the teddy bears :)

Oh come on, the ewoks took down a legion of the empire's best troops with minimum losses, how can anyone hate the teddy bears :)

Because watching them is like watching a bunch of Stone Age Teddy Ruxpins.

Because watching them is like watching a bunch of Stone Age Teddy Ruxpins.

Ok you got me there, you win :) But for a bad troll attempt, which I admit I am not good at.

Mal > Han Solo :)
River > Leah
Operative > Vader

Ok I am done

just something i find when i was lookingf for some other thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58otOtFA3Iw

Ok you got me there, you win :) But for a bad troll attempt, which I admit I am not good at.

Mal > Han Solo :)
River > Leah
Operative > Vader

Ok I am done

Nothing beats Leia in the gold bikini. Nothing. Nice try, though. :fluffle:

Nothing beats Leia in the gold bikini. Nothing. Nice try, though. :fluffle:

Besides which, Kaylee>River anyways.

Nothing beats Leia in the gold bikini. Nothing. Nice try, though. :fluffle:

QFT! :D

R - lyeh;12504585']Besides which, Kaylee>River anyways.

Inara > Kaylee > River > Leah in a golde in Bikini :)

Inara > Kaylee > River > Leah in a golde in Bikini :)

Ok, maybe Inara could pull off (no pun intended :p) the gold bikini. But not River. Leia still pwns.

Ok, maybe Inara could pull off (no pun intended :p) the gold bikini. But not River. Leia still pwns.

Leia the ice queen, or Inara the professional companion? The BISEXUAL companion.

Leia the ice queen, or Inara the professional companion? The BISEXUAL companion.

Some people like attitude. ;)

wtf is serenity? sounds lame

wtf is serenity? sounds lame

It is the movie based off the show firefly. If you have not seen either, I would highly suggest that you check it out. It is a great series, although short lived. The movie is also fantastic.

Inara > Kaylee > River > Leah in a golde in Bikini :)

Kaylee > Inara > Leia > River.

:)

I'm glad to see Forbidden Planet on the list - it's a great story, despite the 50s SFX, awful acting and cringingly-outdated social mores.

I liked SW when I was a kid, but the Lucas just cannot help his damn self when it comes to cutesey characters.

No Aliens? That was a lot better than Planet of the Apes...

It doesn't surprise me that Serenity won. Plenty of teenage girls probably got a kick out of Buffy in space.

Star Wars > *. Period. :gundge:
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now it's correct!

How DARE you say SW is better than Back to the Future or 2001?

Hmmm... As George Lucas fucked up Star Wars with the new trilogy, the glory of the original one has diminished somewhat...

But still, I have to say that Star Wars remains, in my mind, the greatest Sci Fi movie ever, with Serenity being a strong runner up.


I'm still thinking that Star Wars isn't sci-fi. It is space opera.

And yes, Lucas fucked up totally with the new trilogy. It is soooo sucky and its characters are totally two-dimensional ("Hey Anakin, join me and become an evil Sith!" "Why, Mr.Palpatine?" "Because you will be more powerful!" "Oh, ok! I'll be starting with killing kids, is that evil enough?"). Plus, it's got an even more stupid replacement for the Ewoks (one solution: extermination!).

I'm somewhat surprised that Hitch-Hiker's wasn't ranked.

The poll is unfair because there is no movie with the title of "Star Wars". There are movies titled "The Phantom Menace", "Attack of the Clones", "Revenge of the Sith", "A New Hope", "The Empire Strikes Back", and "Return of the Jedi", but no movie goes by the name of "Star Wars". Thus, all votes cast for "Star Wars" are votes for a movie that does not exist.

The poll is also distorted by a lack of James Cameron movies. If Terminator 2 had been on the list, it would have pwned all of the others.

The poll is unfair because there is no movie with the title of "Star Wars". There are movies titled "The Phantom Menace", "Attack of the Clones", "Revenge of the Sith", "A New Hope", "The Empire Strikes Back", and "Return of the Jedi", but no movie goes by the name of "Star Wars". Thus, all votes cast for "Star Wars" are votes for a movie that does not exist.
Wrong! As any true Star Wars fan would know, A New Hope was originally released under the title "Star Wars". 'Episode IV: A New Hope' was added after the release of The Empire Strikes Back.

As far as I can work out, all the movies on the list are either stand-alones, or the first made in series. Hence no Aliens or Terminator 2. Alien was far scarier than any of the sequels anyway. Suspense > Gross out.

Coupla things...

1. This cant be such a great movie...Ive never heard of it.

2. You cant compare a film like "A New Hope", or "Empire Strikes Back" to this film, becuase this film hasnt done anything that hasnt been done before.

"ANH" did.

In some cases they invented technologies that are still used today, and filming techniques. "Serenity" has not...and will not.

This is like comparing Oasis to the Beatles.
That is to say....there is no comparison.

Now that I have heard of it, I'll go watch it and see if its any good.

The poll is unfair because there is no movie with the title of "Star Wars". There are movies titled "The Phantom Menace", "Attack of the Clones", "Revenge of the Sith", "A New Hope", "The Empire Strikes Back", and "Return of the Jedi", but no movie goes by the name of "Star Wars". Thus, all votes cast for "Star Wars" are votes for a movie that does not exist.

The poll is also distorted by a lack of James Cameron movies. If Terminator 2 had been on the list, it would have pwned all of the others.

More importantly....T2?

That movie sucked.

What do you get when you have a terminator that isnt allowed to terminate?
A lame movie.

Coupla things...

1. This cant be such a great movie...Ive never heard of it.

2. You cant compare a film like "A New Hope", or "Empire Strikes Back" to this film, becuase this film hasnt done anything that hasnt been done before.

"ANH" did.

In some cases they invented technologies that are still used today, and filming techniques. "Serenity" has not...and will not.

This is like comparing Oasis to the Beatles.
That is to say....there is no comparison.

Now that I have heard of it, I'll go watch it and see if its any good.

Originality=/=quality

Alien was far scarier than any of the sequels anyway. Suspense > Gross out.

Some of us tend to be of the opinion that plot, characters, writing, etc. are more important than being "scary".

Coupla things...

1. This cant be such a great movie...Ive never heard of it.


There are many great movies that you've never heard of.

More importantly....T2?

That movie sucked.

You suck.

They missed a lot of good movies on that list, to be honest. Star Wars did not have spectacular writing, but it did have groundbreaking special effects. The Empire Strikes Back was good because Lucas left the script and direction to other people. Besides, the series is an homage to the old Flash Gordon-style serials anyway.

Of the ones on the list, I would have to put 2001 on top because of all of the factors listed: good script, good acting and, for the time, good special effects. Serenity was good, but 2001 was better.

Coupla things...

1. This cant be such a great movie...Ive never heard of it.

2. You cant compare a film like "A New Hope", or "Empire Strikes Back" to this film, becuase this film hasnt done anything that hasnt been done before.

"ANH" did.

In some cases they invented technologies that are still used today, and filming techniques. "Serenity" has not...and will not.

This is like comparing Oasis to the Beatles.
That is to say....there is no comparison.

Now that I have heard of it, I'll go watch it and see if its any good.

you have to see the show (or at least be familiar with it: watch the pilot, at least) to understand a lot of what is going on.

they do provide some introduction for those who have not seen it, but whedon said it best when he said that the movie was like a double length episode (with a much higher budget)

There are many great movies that you've never heard of.

Great sci-fi movies that Ive never heard of?
Not many in the english language, friend.

Wich is not to say that Im the be-all end all authority when it comes to film, but lets just say, I see more movies than most people.
In fact, its a hobby of mine not just to watch movies, but find certain movies
from certain genres.
Obscure ones.

Suffice to say, if I havent heard of it, its becuase theres been no buzz generated about it, and that could be for a number of reasons, but usually, its becuase its an average run-of-the-mill sci-fi flick.
I'll have to watch it, and let decide.



You suck.

Very mature, Skippy.
Did I insult your favorite movie fanboy?
Too bad...it was a lame sequel to a good movie, that made the same mistake Return of the Jedi did. It catered to the "cute".
We see Arnie, reprising his role as a Terminator, only to watch Little Eddie Furlong order him not to kill anything.

The only likable character was Hamilton, and even she couldnt carry this film alone. Aside from the special effects (the liqui-borg) not much to see here folks.
Almost as bad as the third installment.

Sarah Connor will fuck you up.

you have to see the show (or at least be familiar with it: watch the pilot, at least) to understand a lot of what is going on.

they do provide some introduction for those who have not seen it, but whedon said it best when he said that the movie was like a double length episode (with a much higher budget)

So, its like "Twin Peaks: Firewalk with Me", then?

As in you should know a bit about it, before you watch it?

So, its like "Twin Peaks: Firewalk with Me", then?

As in you should know a bit about it, before you watch it?

never heard of it, but yes: a passing familiarity with the show/cast is a prerequisite.

it's be like going into a star trek movie with no clue what the federation is

Sarah Connor will fuck you up.

Like I said...the only likable character.

Like I said...the only likable character.

If Sarah Connor got into a fight with Ellen Ripley, who do you think would win?

Like I said...the only likable character.

indeed.

I had a debate with a friend the other day: who was better: sarah connor or ripley (from alien)

I told him that if she wasn't such a pansy in the first movie, connor would have won it by far

If Sarah Connor got into a fight with Ellen Ripley, who do you think would win?

And finally the thread devolves into "My favourite fictional character would totally beat your favourite fictional character up".

If Sarah Connor got into a fight with Ellen Ripley, who do you think would win?

Are we talking about Ripley from Alien 4, or just 1&2?
If so...Connor kicks her pilot ass.

If were talkin 4...Ripley eats Connor....literally.

Are we talking about Ripley from Alien 4, or just 1&2?
If so...Connor kicks her pilot ass.

If were talkin 4...Ripley eats Connor....literally.

all but four she would kick Ripley's ass

It doesn't surprise me that Serenity won. Plenty of teenage girls probably got a kick out of Buffy in space.

You know, it was mostly teenage boys that watched Buffy, for obvious reasons... ;)

Coupla things...

1. This cant be such a great movie...Ive never heard of it.

2. You cant compare a film like "A New Hope", or "Empire Strikes Back" to this film, becuase this film hasnt done anything that hasnt been done before.

"ANH" did.

In some cases they invented technologies that are still used today, and filming techniques. "Serenity" has not...and will not.

This is like comparing Oasis to the Beatles.
That is to say....there is no comparison.

Now that I have heard of it, I'll go watch it and see if its any good.

Watch the series Firefly first - the movie will make more sense if you do so. It's only 13 episodes (I think).

Having bought and watched Serenity recently I thought it was pretty average really, so this poll result mystifies me.

Having bought and watched Serenity recently I thought it was pretty average really, so this poll result mystifies me.

Have you seen Firefly yet? If not then I highly suggest you buy or rent the series, and watch it. Then go back and watch Serenity. Your experience will be much more enjoyable.

i went to watch Serenity last night only to find some SOB stolen the discs :mad:

Have you seen Firefly yet? If not then I highly suggest you buy or rent the series, and watch it. Then go back and watch Serenity. Your experience will be much more enjoyable.

Not yet as it hasn't been on British TV - if I see the series I will get it.

Not yet as it hasn't been on British TV - if I see the series I will get it.

The complete series got released on DVD not long ago. It's how I got into it.

Alien was far scarier than any of the sequels anyway. Suspense > Gross out.

QFT.

You know, it was mostly teenage boys that watched Buffy, for obvious reasons... ;)

Not true. Though the obvious reasons may have been there (I wasn't a teenager when it was on, but Willow and Faith? *drool* ), it's strongest demographic was females under 25.