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I agree with Greenpeace.. Nuke programs are dangerous for the region..
a 'Nuclear Free Middle East' is a good idea

Greenpeace slams Israel's nuclear program
Tal Rabinovsky
03.29.07, 19:05 / Israel News

Greenpeace campaign for denuclearized Middle East takes it from Teheran to Tel Aviv. Activists warn aging Dimona plant a disaster waiting to happen, issue report detailing Israel's nuclear capabilities

"Despite Israel's policy of nuclear ambiguity, international reports maintain that this country has developed nuclear facilities and one of them, the Nahal Sorek science reactor, is only 30 kilometers from Tel Aviv," said Yonatan Leibowitz, Greenpeace Mediterranean communications director, on Thursday as environmental activists rallied against nuclear power in the Middle East.

Speaking at a press conference on the beach with the Rainbow Warrior, Greenpeace's official flagship docked in the background, Leibowitz released a report detailing the potential dangers posed to the populations of Iran, Israel and Turkey by nuclear installations. In front of the Rainbow Warrior, a Zeppelin flew with a banner calling for a 'Nuclear Free Middle East' and, in Hebrew, 'Nuclear is dangerous for us all.'

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3382937,00.html

Iran clearly has no choice here, Israel is clearly a threat to Iran and to the peace of the Middle East, these nuclear facilities must be bombed immediately.

ZOMG!1

Why hasn't the UNSC made any resolution condemning thier Nuclear program and crippling them with strict economic sanctions?

Greenpeace is living in an unreal world -- That is to say, one where the nuclear cat can go back in the bag. Now is not the time to critiscise decades-old nuclear programs. Now is the time to find ways to prevent nuclear attacks (missile defense systems) and to prevent proliferation.

Not only is this complaint futile, it is ignoring a power that is gaining nuclear weapons, in favor of chiding a power that has had them for forever. IMO, back to harrassing whaling barges for Green Peace. They seem to be moderately effective at that.

Greenpeace is living in an unreal world -- That is to say, one where the nuclear cat can go back in the bag. Now is not the time to critiscise decades-old nuclear programs. Now is the time to find ways to prevent nuclear attacks (missile defense systems) and to prevent proliferation.

Not only is this complaint futile, it is ignoring a power that is gaining nuclear weapons, in favor of chiding a power that has had them for forever. IMO, back to harrassing whaling barges for Green Peace. They seem to be moderately effective at that.

Technically there isn't any proof Iran has or is developing Nuclear weapon capability.

Iran clearly has no choice here, Israel is clearly a threat to Iran and to the peace of the Middle East, these nuclear facilities must be bombed immediately.

they should be nuked! :eek:

Nuclear technology is not the solution to either national security or energy needs.

Bullshit. Iran, Israel, Saudi Arabia or anyone else in the world who wants clean, cheap, and safe power should be pursuing nuclear energy. The only problem I have is when they violate the NPT and develop nuclear weapons with their facilities, in which case any violator must be punished. Frankly, I don't care if Iran builds a billion reactors as long as they're civilian-grade facilities and no weapons research is done there. Nuclear is the only non-fossil solution to our baseline power needs in the short, and that's as true in the Middle East as it is in Europe or the US.

US and Israel: Nuclear profileration is bad! (*Build nuclear weapons faster*)

What's that? This obviously dangerous country, Israel, is full of Jews?

OH NOES1! THERE'S ONE LIVING IN MY STREETZ! HELL LIEK KILL UZ ALL!1

If we don't nuke them, then in 20 years we'll all be celebrating Hannukah and playing with Dreidels. And speaking Jewish, or something.

Now is not the time to critiscise decades-old nuclear programs.Even if the reactors are in bad conditions?

Technically there isn't any proof Iran has or is developing Nuclear weapon capability.

Other than the fact that they continue to expand their enrichment, the reports of nuclear material enriched far beyond the necessary 3.5% level, and their refusal to accept a Russian offer of properly enriched nuclear fuel?

Indeed. :rolleyes:

US and Israel: Nuclear profileration is bad! (*Build nuclear weapons faster*)
Though you ARE on my ignore list, I still have to point out.

Israel isn't mass producing Nuclear weapons they don't need too, they have enough to level all the Arab nations, (supposedly after all they never said they HAD any. They just said that they could or could not have them.)

US has gone to the missile defense program more or less.

Except Bush and his neutron bombs.

Even if the reactors are in bad conditions?

And one would trust Greenpeace alarmists on this subject, why? Remember, this is the group of "environmentalists" who insist on ignoring the one solution to the growing climate crisis.

If the reactors are in bad shape, they should be repaired. However, I do not, in any way, trust Greenpeace on the subject.

And one would trust Greenpeace alarmists on this subject, why? Remember, this is the group of "environmentalists" who insist on ignoring the one solution to the growing climate crisis.

If the reactors are in bad shape, they should be repaired. However, I do not, in any way, trust Greenpeace on the subject.Where does Israel put its nuclear waste?

Nah, Penetrator Bombs. Neutron Bombs was his daddy.

At least Greenpeace is consistent. They don't like nukes of any kind - which is why I don't support them, actually. We need nuclear power for power generation and nuclear medicine. And as Kinda Sensible People noted, the Nuclear Weapons cat is most assuredly out of the bag (I figure the NPT might last another ten years - if we're lucky).

Where does Israel put its nuclear waste?

Either they store it at sites in Israel or ship it out of the country to be stored somewhere else, like France does with the nuclear waste sold to Russia.

.. in 20 years we'll all be celebrating Hannukah and playing with Dreidels. And speaking Jewish, or something.Its all good..
as long as they dont force me to eat kosher.. :D

Where does Israel put its nuclear waste?

Apparently, the Dimona site, amongst others.

Where does Israel put its nuclear waste?I dont know.. Africa?
soem time ago Greenpeace said some people got cancer from Israeli waste dumped on a river... but I am not sure this was nuclear weapons waste.

I dont know.. Africa?
soem time ago Greenpeace said some people got cancer from Israeli waste dumped on a river... but I am not sure this was nuclear weapons waste.it doesn't have to be nuclear weapons waste, just nuclear waste is completely sufficient... :rolleyes:

Israel isn't mass producing Nuclear weapons they don't need too, they have enough to level all the Arab nations, (supposedly after all they never said they HAD any. They just said that they could or could not have them.).


Well thats reassuring, obviously....So its not the produce of the mass production thats the problem, its just the production itself?

I agree with Greenpeace.. Nuke programs are dangerous for the region..
a 'Nuclear Free Middle East' is a good idea



http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3382937,00.html

You know, if Satan appeared on National television and announced he was anti-Israel you'd support him. So pretty much nothing you ever say can be listened to. When was the last time you made a post that wasn't anti-semitic?

What's that? This obviously dangerous country, Israel, is full of Jews?

OH NOES1! THERE'S ONE LIVING IN MY STREETZ! HELL LIEK KILL UZ ALL!1

If we don't nuke them, then in 20 years we'll all be celebrating Hannukah and playing with Dreidels. And speaking Jewish, or something.

speaking Hebrew

speaking Hebrew

I was feigning ignorance. I know they speak Hebrew.

Hmm... I don't see Greenpeace slamming Pakistan's nuclear program. Or Iran's nuclear program...

Hmm... I don't see Greenpeace slamming Pakistan's nuclear program. Or Iran's nuclear program...

Sigh...

30 April 2003
Greenpeace today launched a unique web site, Zoom on Doom, mapping the geographical location of all known nuclear weapons facilities and storage sites around the world. Meanwhile citizen inspectors from Greenpeace conducted further surprise inspections of nuclear weapons states missions in Geneva, urging them to immediately disarm.
On Tuesday, Greenpeace conducted inspections at the US, French, Russian and Israeli missions. Today the inspectors, together with mock missiles visited the UK and China missions in Geneva - both official nuclear weapon states. They also visited the missions of India, Pakistan and North Korea, demanding these countries renounce their nuclear weapons programmes and join the Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT) as non- nuclear weapons states. The missiles requested they be eliminated as a step towards nuclear disarmament, the central goal of the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT). The NPT Preparatory Committee is meeting at the United Nations in Geneva until May 9.

Greenpeace's statement concerning Iran in March 2006:

No one can say for sure whether or not Iran has a nuclear weapons programme.

Which, if you are looking at it empirically, is absolutely true.

They then go on to say that if it were proven Iran had weapons or developing weapons capability:

Greenpeace would call on Iran to immediatly halt it's weapon programme and instead become a champion for peace. Nuclear weapons do not offer security, but increase tensions with the attendant risk of a conflict in which everyone will lose

Sigh...

Still no Iran, eh?

US and Israel: Nuclear profileration is bad! (*Build nuclear weapons faster*)

Except the US is not "build[ing] nuclear weapons faster".

Still no Iran, eh?

Look again.

Oh deary me! Run to the hills! Greenpeace are miffed with somebody!

Perhaps Amnesty International will enter the fray, in a metaphorical sense at any rate, next, then the prepotentates of the world will never know a night's sleep again.:rolleyes:

Still no Iran, eh?you need to take out your blinders. :D

Who the hell cares what Greenpeace thinks?

Who the hell cares what Greenpeace thinks?

thats about right these days... although Israel needs to catch something for it.

Except Bush and his neutron bombs.

Of course, we have to build new neutron bombs pretty fast. The stuff they use has like a half life of 8 years or so.

I agree with Greenpeace.. Nuke programs are dangerous for the region..
a 'Nuclear Free Middle East' is a good idea



http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3382937,00.html

Yes, a nuke-free Middle East IS a good idea, except for one tiny little problem: The Arab/Muslim nations in the Middle East want to destroy Israel and kill all Jews, and they will do it if Israel has no nuclear weapons to defend itself with. It seems to me that Greenpeace is anti-Semitic and anti-Israel, because it singles out Israel's nuclear program as opposed to, say, Iran's.

Iran clearly has no choice here, Israel is clearly a threat to Iran and to the peace of the Middle East, these nuclear facilities must be bombed immediately.

ISRAEL's nuclear facilities must be bombed immediately? But it's OK with you if Iran has nuclear facilities and nuke weapons programs?

If you ask me, I think it is the Arab nations and not Israel who are a threat to peace in the Middle East, because they WON'T LEAVE ISRAEL ALONE.

Or were you saying that BOTH nations' nuke facilities should be bombed? Because if THAT is what you mean, then that is more acceptable.

But if you support Iran having a nuclear weapons program, but are opposed to Israel having one, that is nothing but politically correct racism.

Hmm... I don't see Greenpeace slamming Pakistan's nuclear program. Or Iran's nuclear program...

You know, if Satan appeared on National television and announced he was anti-Israel you'd support him. So pretty much nothing you ever say can be listened to. When was the last time you made a post that wasn't anti-semitic?

I agree with both of you. I am not Jewish myself, but I support the Jews and their ONE HUNDRED PERCENT LEGAL AND LEGITIMATE Jewish State, Israel. There is entirely too much anti-Semitism in the world. The world in general needs to leave the Jews alone and STOP PERSECUTING THEM.

And IMNSVHO, Greenpeace, like the so-called "Palestinian" Authority, the United Nations, and most major news media outlets, are solidly anti-Semitic to an unreasonable and even borderline genocidal degree.

Yes, a nuke-free Middle East IS a good idea, except for one tiny little problem: The Arab/Muslim nations in the Middle East want to destroy Israel and kill all Jews, and they will do it if Israel has no nuclear weapons to defend itself with. It seems to me that Greenpeace is anti-Semitic and anti-Israel, because it singles out Israel's nuclear program as opposed to, say, Iran's.



ISRAEL's nuclear facilities must be bombed immediately? But it's OK with you if Iran has nuclear facilities and nuke weapons programs?

If you ask me, I think it is the Arab nations and not Israel who are a threat to peace in the Middle East, because they WON'T LEAVE ISRAEL ALONE.

Or were you saying that BOTH nations' nuke facilities should be bombed? Because if THAT is what you mean, then that is more acceptable.

But if you support Iran having a nuclear weapons program, but are opposed to Israel having one, that is nothing but politically correct racism.

Israel already has nukes. And if they didn't build them themselves, they bought or otherwise received them from someone (likely the US).

Greenpeace is anti-Semitic.ha-ha :D :D ;) :D

Where does Israel put its nuclear waste?

Most nations don't have any waste. The US up until the 1970s would reuse the uranium and had little or no waste. Then for some reason Carter stopped that practice and we have had a growing stockpile of nuclear waste ever since.

Don't ask me why Carter made that boneheaded move. I figure someone with nuclear experience would be more intelligent than that.

ha-ha :D :D ;) :D

There is no doubt that you are anti-semitic you Holocaust denying troll.

That goes for you too Adolf Prime.

There is no doube that you are anti-semitic you Holocaust denying troll.

That goes for you too Adolf Prime.you are running out of doube :D

you are running out of doube :D

If you ask around this forum, I'm pretty sure you will get the general consensus that people see you for the anti-semite you are. Your numerous posts claiming Jewish media conspiracies, Jewish conspiracies to get us into Iraq, and of course your Holocaust denial provide a plethora of evidence for everyone to look at.

Go back to reading the Protocols you troll.

There is no doubt that you are anti-semitic you Holocaust denying troll.

That goes for you too Adolf Prime.

I admit it, I lol'd, seriously though, it's funny because all pro-Israel people call their opponent anti-semites, they don't say 'I disagree with their opinion' or anything, it's just anyone who disagrees with Israel is immediately a Nazi. And that proves my point, because the Holocaust card is a frequent and used tool of the Zionists to distract attention from Israel's racial segregational laws and atrocious terrorism against the people of Palestine.

The world in general needs to leave the Jews alone and STOP PERSECUTING THEM.so now its not only Greenpeace.. but the whole world.. you are saying the whole world is antisemitic
:D :D

I admit it, I lol'd, seriously though, it's funny because all pro-Israel people call their opponent anti-semites, they don't say 'I disagree with their opinion' or anything, it's just anyone who disagrees with Israel is immediately a Nazi. And that proves my point, because the Holocaust card is a frequent and used tool of the Zionists to distract attention from Israel's racial segregational laws and atrocious terrorism against the people of Palestine.

There are plenty of critics of Israel on this forum. I don't call them anti-semites. I will call UB, you, OD, and Soviestan anti-semitic, but I have the posts to prove it.

You are nothing but a moron who denies the Holocaust and constantly uses debunked quotations to try to back up your feeble arguments.

BTW, in almost every Israel debate, it is you who brings up the Holocaust, not me. The only cases I bring up the Holocaust is when discussing motive for immigration. That can't be ignored because it is a fact that the European Jews who did make Aliyah in the 1930s and after the war did so either to escape persecution or because they couldn't live in a continent that had exterminated 2/3 of their people. That's one hell of a specter to live with.

The Zionists probably want to replace it with a military base, or a Synagogue that couples as a Bank too.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12338929&postcount=2

If it happened, where exactly did it happen? (referring to the Holocaust.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12493449&postcount=82

... the United Nations, and most major news media outlets, are solidly anti-Semitic to an unreasonable and even borderline genocidal degree.LOL..
antisemitic to a genocidal degree??
Why dont you pull the IDF.. and go straight to the "Holocaust degree":D.. or the Adolf degree :D :D

you are almost as entertaining as IDF.. you just need few more degrees ;)

Well for the first quote, I sure wish IDF you would stop quoting it. If you actually bothered to read the rest of the thread I admitted it was a joke, I wasn't actually serious.

For the second one, how exactly does that prove am anti-semitic? I was simply stating that if the Holocaust happened in Europe, the Palestinian people should not suffer for it.

Please IDF, you are verging upon foaming at the mouth denoucing everyone who disagrees with you as 'Nazi! Adolf!'...

So. What. Unless they are equally against Iran's potential nuclear capabilities, it means even less than nothing. And even if they DO take such a position, if Israel disregards U.S. opinion (as they have done so many many times in the past) with such reckless abandon, what chance does Greenpeace have of affecting Israeli foreign policy?

None.

I love how people attack the best buffer source of energy to get us off fossil fuels.

I love how people attack the best buffer source of energy to get us off fossil fuels.Corn? or is it Brazilian sugar canes?

Well for the first quote, I sure wish IDF you would stop quoting it. If you actually bothered to read the rest of the thread I admitted it was a joke, I wasn't actually serious.

For the second one, how exactly does that prove am anti-semitic? I was simply stating that if the Holocaust happened in Europe, the Palestinian people should not suffer for it.

Please IDF, you are verging upon foaming at the mouth denoucing everyone who disagrees with you as 'Nazi! Adolf!'...

You make this too easy. In just 5 minutes I pulled up these additional anti-semitic posts of you. Go back to reading the Protocols you Nazi troll.



Historical persecution is not an excuse for an ultranationalist group to annex territory and oppress a population using the 'Holocaust' and other perceived injustices as pretext.



http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12493428&postcount=78

IMO can Zionist supporter is a legitimate target for helping such an ethnic-ultranationalist demagogy in it's terrible deeds.

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12297251&postcount=116

Well when most Israel/Palestine stories have a pro-Israel slant on them, an 'exaggerated' source is the only way to get anywhere close to the reality of the story. The Pro-Israel lobby in the west after all does have alot of money.

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12222529&postcount=63

I stand by every one of those statements, and I have absolutely no idea how they add up to me being anti-semitic, just anti-Zionist. Your insistant on buzz words like 'holocaust denier','nazi' and 'anti-semite' are hiding the fact, as most Zionist use the holocaust, that Israeli foreign policy and actions are undefendable.

I stand by every one of those statements, and I have absolutely no idea how they add up to me being anti-semitic, just anti-Zionist. Your insistant on buzz words like 'holocaust denier','nazi' and 'anti-semite' are hiding the fact, as most Zionist use the holocaust, that Israeli foreign policy and actions are undefendable.

Your own posts speak for themselves.

You deny the Holocaust, say that if it did occur, it would be no more than a 'perceived injustice,' support mudering anyone who supports the idea that Israel should exist (that is the definition of a Zionist), and accuse the Jews of using their wealth to control the media.

You are nothing but a wannabe mass murderer and troll. You are a very sick person and should seek counseling.

Corn? or is it Brazilian sugar canes?
Only if you want to cut down the rain-forest and drive up the price of edible corn.
You make this too easy. In just 5 minutes I pulled up these additional anti-semitic posts of you. Go back to reading the Protocols you Nazi troll.
Didn't seem Naziesque to me. Especially considering that the biggest backers of Israel in the West aren't even Jewish.
I support the Jews and their ONE HUNDRED PERCENT LEGAL AND LEGITIMATE Jewish State, Israel.
Meh. Anything can be legal if you're the law.

Your own posts speak for themselves.

You deny the Holocaust, say that if it did occur, it would be no more than a 'perceived injustice,' support mudering anyone who supports the idea that Israel should exist (that is the definition of a Zionist), and accuse the Jews of using their wealth to control the media.

You are nothing but a wannabe mass murderer and troll. You are a very sick person and should seek counseling.
Do you really believe all that?
I mean shit, man. You're deluded.

I want to be a mass murderer because I am opposed to Israeli foreign policy? Thanks for the generalisations IDF.

That's no generalization. It's a space station.
[IMAGE/]The IDF has a space station? And somehow that image is familiar...

I want to be a mass murderer because I am opposed to Israeli foreign policy? Thanks for the generalisations IDF.

That's no generalization. It's a space station.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/death-star-1.jpg

Oceandrive question..

Do you visit any other message board sites? Because I know someone somewhere who's alot like you, except lamer.

The IDF has a space station?

Only one visible one. The rest are cloaked.
http://www.axesandalleys.com/Index/aa011/jerusalem%205.jpg

Only one visible one. The rest are cloaked.
[IMAGE/]Is that where their "god" and "angels" live? So that's what Leonard Nimoy referred to when he said he considered the Vulcans to be the Jews of space...

The UN isn't anti-semetic. It just, rightly so, calls on them when they violate UN resolutions, of which there are many such incidents. They do the same with many other countries. Burma, Sudan, Iraq, Iran, and even the United States sometimes, I'm sure.

The UN isn't anti-semetic. It just, rightly so, calls on them when they violate UN resolutions, of which there are many such incidents. They do the same with many other countries. Burma, Sudan, Iraq, Iran, and even the United States sometimes, I'm sure.Israel only likes UN resolutions when they are in Israels interest and when the "right" states vote for the "right" options...

Is that where their "god" and "angels" live? So that's what Leonard Nimoy referred to when he said he considered the Vulcans to be the Jews of space...


It was an attempt at humour, as I couldn't find a decent pic of the ships at the end of "History of the world". Any half arsed "Jew-bashing" slant put on it is entirely your own.

It was an attempt at humour, as I couldn't find a decent pic of the ships at the end of "History of the world". Any half arsed "Jew-bashing" slant put on it is entirely your own.And your attachment of an Israeli flag to the space station was not intended as a pun?

]Every country in the world [/B]only likes UN resolutions when they are in their interests and when the "right" states vote for the "right" options...
Fixed for accuracy.

Really, did you believe that some governments weren't selfish bastards? :p

Fixed for accuracy.

Really, did you believe that some governments weren't selfish bastards? :p
there are some UN votes where Israel and the US vote against the entire rest. I am not sure whether such a constellation exists for another country...
and especially since Israel owes its existence to a silly UN vote, it should demonstrate loyalty

And your attachment of an Israeli flag to the space station was not intended as a pun?

"Main Entry: 1pun
Pronunciation: 'p&n
Function: noun
Etymology: perhaps from Italian puntiglio fine point, quibble -- more at PUNCTILIO
: the usually humorous use of a word in such a way as to suggest two or more of its meanings or the meaning of another word similar in sound "
/http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/pun
Nope. And it was a pre-existing pic.

"Main Entry: 1pun
Pronunciation: 'p&n
Function: noun
Etymology: perhaps from Italian puntiglio fine point, quibble -- more at PUNCTILIO
: the usually humorous use of a word in such a way as to suggest two or more of its meanings or the meaning of another word similar in sound "
/http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/pun
Nope. And it was a pre-existing pic.Ok, I thought pun referred to any kind of ironic hint.

When isn't Greenpeace slamming something?

They slam every nuke program, this thread is pointless.

They slam every nuke program, this thread is pointless.

Even if it is just for power.

Didn't seem Naziesque to me. Especially considering that the biggest backers of Israel in the West aren't even Jewish.

I agree that the third one contrived (especially as pro-Israel lobbyists in the US do have a lot of money), but to call the Holocaust a "perceived injustice" and to condone the murder of anyone who supports Israel's existence? I'd say that's pretty anti-semetic.

I see lots of people suggesting Greenpeace bias for not being critical of Iran but of Israel but do not find similar critisism of USA for being critical of Iranian nuclear systems but not critical of Israel.

Secondly Greenpeace are clear if clear Iran developing Nuclear weapon capapbility will be critical.

Lots of us in the world are cynical about Whitehall and Whitehouse statements re weapons of mass distruction. When they proove that there were weapons of mass distruction in Iraq I will be more critical of individuals and organisations who who do not jump top agree the USA world vision.

as most Zionist use the holocaust

Rubbish. I've never used the Holocaust to justify Israel's existence, and I can't remember the last time I saw anyone (except the occasional first time poster armed with :mp5: s and :sniper: s) use it in a debate. Most of the time, if the Holocaust is brought up during a discussion about Israel, it's the anti-Zionists who bring it up as a strawman to attack.

I want to be a mass murderer because I am opposed to Israeli foreign policy? Thanks for the generalisations IDF.

You aren't just an intolerant fool, but an illiterate one too.

You stated very clearly in a post that every Zionist should be killed. By definition, a Zionist is a person who supports the very idea of Israel's existance. Most Zionists disagree with Israel's policies at one time or another. You don't make the distinction between fundies like the late Kahane and those who simply believe Israel has a right to exist as a country.

Any literate person can interpret your post as saying anyone who supports Israel's existance should be killed. Therefore you are supporting the idea of mass murder and genocide against the Jewish people.

There are plenty of Jews on the left to far-left (probably making up the majority of Jews) who disagree with Israeli policies but are still by definition Zionist. You are a sick individual who supports the killing of them for that belief.

You seriously aren't just an anti-semite, but a person who has no sense of reality and needs serious therapy.


EDIT:

The link to the post I'm referring to is this one:

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12297251&postcount=116

You seriously aren't just an anti-semite, but a person who has no sense of reality and needs serious therapy.


EDIT:

The link to the post I'm referring to is this one:

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12297251&postcount=116


You're generally right, but even if he supports killing zionists that makes him anti-zionist not anti-semitic or anti-Jewish. You throw anti-semite as a buzzword around a lot and to be honest it harms your argument a lot more than it helps it.

And this is why there are age requirements on Politics...

You're generally right, but even if he supports killing zionists that makes him anti-zionist not anti-semitic or anti-Jewish. You throw anti-semite as a buzzword around a lot and to be honest it harms your argument a lot more than it helps it.

I throw it around only with certain posters. I have the quotes to back it up.

OD is an anti-semite who claims everything is a Jewish controlled media conspiracy. (see Protocols, The International Jew, and Mein Kampf for other writings expressing that view) He also denies the Holocaust and believes that the US is in Iraq because of a vast Jewish conspiracy. Funny thing is the vast majority of Jews are left of center and are strongly against the Iraq War.

UB is an anti-semite who always tries to drag the Jews into everything. He makes bullshit posts about how the Jews have no culture and have been stealing culture from every group in the ancient world. Granted there are shared customs among other cultures, but that's because Judea was the crossroads of the world. He has also supported actions where terrorists blow up random civlians in a night club.

Adolf Prime is an anti-semite who denies the Holocaust, supports the killing of pretty much all the Jews. I don't really need to go too much into that. I think his own words are pretty damning.

OD is an anti-semite ..and I say you are the antisemite.. words are cheap.. and from your mouth they are so cheap its like a joke.
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OD claims everything is a Jewish controlled media conspiracy. I never ever said:"every media is controlled by Jews"
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OD denies the Holocaust.I think the holocaust happened.

OD believes that the US is in Iraq because of a vast Jewish conspiracy.I do? interesting.. I was not aware of that.
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OD ... (see Protocols, The International Jew, and Mein Kampf for other writings expressing that view) Protocols? The International Jew? mein Kampf?? I have not read them yet.. why the reference to me?

Your imagination is wildly creative.. You should consider a Job at the movie industry. :D :D ;) :D

Great idea! Let's deprive Israel of its teeth when it's surrounded by hostile nations that call for its destruction and that of its people. In case you didn't notice, Iran is being run by a nutjob whiose called for Israel's destruction and there have been quite a few suicide bombings in Israel over the years. If anyone needs the protection and can be trusted to use them (or not) wisely in that region it's Israel.

.. If anyone needs the protection ...Who does not need the Protection?
What Country is strong enough? the US?

.. and can be trusted to use them wisely in that region it's...
Using Nukes wisely?
interesting.
Can you give us one example of one nuke used wisely.. (and no.. Nagasaki and Hiroshima was NOT "wisely" use of nukes)

who does not need the Protection? what Country is strong enough? the US??

What

Using Nukes wisely?
interesting.
can you give us an example.. (and no.. Nagasaki and Hiroshima was NOT "wisely" use of nukes)

Hiroshima at least. Japan was not surrendering. It was either that or kill millions more in an invasion.

Japan was not surrendering.Germany had already surrendered.. It was just a matter of time.
Japan had to surrender.. sooner or later.

Germany had already surrendered.. It was just a matter of time.
Japan had to surrender.. sooner or later.

Did they? You have no clue as to the culture of Japan in the early to mid 20th century do you? No I can see that you don't.

Did they? You have no clue as to the culture of Japan in the early to mid 20th century do you? No I can see that you don't.I ve seen the same movies.. ;)
Most our knowledge of International history.. and the Cultures-of-the-World.. comes from Hollywood.

I ve seen the same movies.. ;)
Most our knowledge of International history.. and the Cultures-of-the-World.. comes from Hollywood.

I wasn't talking about movies :rolleyes:

Greenpeace is living in an unreal world -- That is to say, one where the nuclear cat can go back in the bag. Now is not the time to critiscise decades-old nuclear programs. Now is the time to find ways to prevent nuclear attacks (missile defense systems) and to prevent proliferation.

Not only is this complaint futile, it is ignoring a power that is gaining nuclear weapons, in favor of chiding a power that has had them for forever. IMO, back to harrassing whaling barges for Green Peace. They seem to be moderately effective at that.

Unless any missile defense system is placed under international control for the expressed purpose of making nuclear weapons no longer attractive for anyone, missile defense systems will promote more proliferation and a new arms race. If, say, the US develops a potent missile defense system, that will likely cause an attack by other nuclear powers before the US can fully implement it. The logic of the other country's leaders is "We can all die today, or just my country can die later." If a country has a missile shield, it gives them carte blanche ability to use nuclear weapons without fear of retaliation. I don't want to live in that world.

Where does Israel put its nuclear waste?

They feed it to Palestinians:cool:

Just so I cut throw the ending crap foaming from IDF's mouth, I would like to say that I only ever said that the Zionist settlers that are imperialistically colonising the West Bank against international law are legitimate military targets for the Palestinians. They are helping in, and perpetuating the oppression and occupation just as much as the IDF are.

Using Nukes wisely?
interesting.
Can you give us one example of one nuke used wisely.. (and no.. Nagasaki and Hiroshima was NOT "wisely" use of nukes)

Having the restraint not to use nuclear weapons is the wisest course of action. Given that Israel probably had the bomb/s before the Yom Kippur War and didn't use it I'd say that was a wise (non)-use of a nuke.

I do see what you mean though. :)