NationStates Jolt Archive


Welcome Back, Soviet Union

Nuevo Italia
01-04-2007, 17:55
I knew this would happen when the Russians elected an ex-soviet secret service officer. It's only a matter of time before he brushes off parliament (who does that remind you of?). Thoughts?


Linky (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17876775/)
Neo Kervoskia
01-04-2007, 17:56
Yay!
Ifreann
01-04-2007, 17:58
In Soviet Russia, Soviet Union re-forms you!
Imperial isa
01-04-2007, 18:00
dose that mean a new cold war
Pyotr
01-04-2007, 18:01
Not ideologically, but as far as status of political freedoms? yes.
Mikesburg
01-04-2007, 18:01
Anyone who thought Russia was going to become a slavic Athens should think again. Russians love powerful leaders, and ones who get the job done. On a personal level, Russians are much more free to do what they like, and can leave the country if they so wish.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's ugly. But Russian Strongmen have always been near and dear to the hearts of Russia.
Nuevo Italia
01-04-2007, 18:05
Until he puts back communist principles. I personally believe he's still part-commie, but that's just me.
New Genoa
01-04-2007, 18:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY0r1WQPHIk&mode=related&search=
Dobbsworld
01-04-2007, 18:15
It's okay, the US has already met them halfway.
Johnny B Goode
01-04-2007, 18:16
I knew this would happen when the Russians elected an ex-soviet secret service officer. It's only a matter of time before he brushes off parliament (who does that remind you of?). Thoughts?


Linky (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17876775/)

I hope this doesn't mean Cold War II. The way the Russians worship him, it's like Stalin.
Zarakon
01-04-2007, 18:18
I hope this doesn't mean Cold War II. The way the Russians worship him, it's like Stalin.

So they don't worship him at all? In fact, they fucking despise him? Because that's what it would be if he were "like Stalin".
Cannot think of a name
01-04-2007, 18:20
Welcome back,
Your dreams were your ticket out.

Welcome back,
To that same old place that you laughed about.

Well the names have all changed since you hung around,
But those dreams have remained and they're turned around.

Who'd have thought they'd lead ya (Who'd have thought they'd lead ya)
Here where we need ya (Here where we need ya)

Yeah we tease him a lot cause we've hot him on the spot, welcome back,
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
[NS::::]Olmedreca
01-04-2007, 18:23
Stalin is still suprizingly popular in Russia.
Zarakon
01-04-2007, 18:58
Olmedreca;12499507']Stalin is still suprizingly popular in Russia.

Among who? Masochists?
Pyotr
01-04-2007, 19:05
Among who? Masochists?

You'd be surprised how long it takes to eradicate an image that was entrenched by propaganda as much as Stalin's was.
Nationalian
01-04-2007, 19:12
Putin has been great for Russia so far. During his time in office the economy has improved rapidly and Russia has come back on feet again. I am concerned about his undemocratic tendencies but he has been much better than the American puppet Jeltsin who practically ruined the country. And I don't take it seriously when american media or american politicians attack someone for being undemocratic.
New Genoa
01-04-2007, 19:32
Putin has been great for Russia so far. During his time in office the economy has improved rapidly and Russia has come back on feet again. I am concerned about his undemocratic tendencies but he has been much better than the American puppet Jeltsin who practically ruined the country. And I don't take it seriously when american media or american politicians attack someone for being undemocratic.

What about someone like Kim Jong Il? Would you take it seriously then?
The PeoplesFreedom
01-04-2007, 19:33
Well, I think since Russia has known dictators for 50 years now, why stop? As long as they don't start sending people to the gulag... I guess.
Nadkor
01-04-2007, 20:20
Well, I think since Russia has known dictators for 50 years now, why stop? As long as they don't start sending people to the gulag... I guess.

Only 50 years?
Vetalia
01-04-2007, 20:20
Maybe I can get a job at Gosplan...I'm sure they could use economists in drafting the next 5-year plan.
Nuevo Italia
01-04-2007, 20:29
I always did want to have the US blow billions on a SDI. Maybe one day, Putin may make it happen.
Johnny B Goode
01-04-2007, 20:30
So they don't worship him at all? In fact, they fucking despise him? Because that's what it would be if he were "like Stalin".

Damn, I need to brush up on history. Stalin had his cult following, though.
Northern Borders
01-04-2007, 20:31
Oh yes, they also issued a report saying they have already stablished a space base in Mars, and found a new type of species which they will geneticaly engenier to become perfect alien soldiers.

The future of mankind is doomed.
Arinola
01-04-2007, 20:31
Well, I think since Russia has known dictators for 50 years now, why stop? As long as they don't start sending people to the gulag... I guess.

More like, since the Tzars?
Arinola
01-04-2007, 20:36
Oh yes, they also issued a report saying they have already stablished a space base in Mars, and found a new type of species which they will geneticaly engenier to become perfect alien soldiers.

The future of mankind is doomed.

Source please?
Nationalian
01-04-2007, 20:39
What about someone like Kim Jong Il? Would you take it seriously then?

Yes, but not because USA claims it but because I've seen other information about it.
Londim
01-04-2007, 20:48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY0r1WQPHIk&mode=related&search=

Thats excactly what I thought of.....

But yeah I've heard the Cold War was horrible, I only caught the final year of it.
New Stalinberg
01-04-2007, 20:52
So they don't worship him at all? In fact, they fucking despise him? Because that's what it would be if he were "like Stalin".

I have a friend who lived in Russia for two years, and he told me Stalin is still seen as a hero.

After all, he did defeat the Nazis and made Russia the "super" power it is today.
Londim
01-04-2007, 21:22
Trading Ban in Russia (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6515293.stm)

Russia has banned all foreigners from working as retailers in its shops and markets under a new law which came into force on Sunday.
Up to 20,000 non-Russians currently work in Moscow markets alone in a tradition going back to Soviet times.

President Vladimir Putin said earlier that the interests of Russian citizens were at stake.

Migrant groups have condemned the law, passed after ethnic violence last year, as unfair and unworkable.

While foreigners will not be allowed to sell directly they still have the right to work in markets as loaders, cleaners, wholesalers or managers, according to an official from the Russian Federal Migration Service, Vyacheslav Postavnin.

The law was introduced after a number of incidents, but chiefly unrest in the northern town of Kondopoga where two local men were killed in a brawl with ethnic Chechens.

Price rise fears

This law has changed the face of retail in Russia, the BBC's James Rodgers reports from Moscow.

Markets provided jobs for people from poorer countries if they were willing to work long hours, often for low pay,

But that is now is illegal. Anyone working in a shop or on a stall has to hold Russian citizenship.

Officials responsible for enforcing the law say they are not planning any major operations to coincide with the new deadline.

They believe market administrators will make sure the law is observed.

Russian media reports have warned of price rises as a consequence of the new law but the authorities insist that any increases are due to inflation.

Migration clampdown

The new law is the latest in a series on immigration.

On 15 January, migrants from CIS member-states coming to Russia under a visa-free regime were banned from selling alcohol and pharmaceuticals.

Ahead of 1 April, the number of foreigners working in Russian markets was reduced to 40% of the workforce.

Mr Postavnin said the new legislation was aimed at combating the shadow economy.

"People have really begun to emerge from the shadow - it's very good," he told Russian news agency Itar-Tass.
Sel Appa
01-04-2007, 21:47
It's not Soviet. It's called a dictatorship.
The South Islands
01-04-2007, 22:15
I miss the Soviet Union. I do so hope it comes back in one form or another.
Hydesland
01-04-2007, 22:34
This is highly inaccurate.