NationStates Jolt Archive

Well, I'm bored.

I would have to say I hate Mugabe the most, due to the fact that he's been a dictator hiding under the guise of an elected leader for so long, and that he had an opposition leader beaten recently.

Poll en route.

Kim Jong-Il. His cruelty, sadism, and utter disregard for human life are pretty much unrivaled anywhere in the world right now. I'd honestly say he's worse than Saddam could have ever been.

*Gets pen and paper to count Pres. Bush tallies in this poorly disguised 'bash Bush/America' thread*

Kim Jong-Il. His cruelty, sadism, and utter disregard for human life are pretty much unrivaled anywhere in the world right now. I'd honestly say he's worse than Saddam could have ever been.

Wow, I completely forgot about him, I'm so dumb today.

I have to say, Bush is definitely up there. He's not the brightest crayon in the box, so to speak, so why he is the U.S president I don't know.

Umar Hassan Ahmad al-Bashir

Bush

At least none of the people in the poll have committed genocide, allowed slavery, and promoted mass rape. How could anyone not vote for al-Bashir?

At least none of the people in the poll have committed genocide, allowed slavery, and promoted mass rape. How could anyone not vote for al-Bashir?

I think Kim has done two of those three (slavery and mass rape).

Well, I'm bored.

I would have to say I hate Mugabe the most, due to the fact that he's been a dictator hiding under the guise of an elected leader for so long, and that he had an opposition leader beaten recently.

Poll en route.

The guy in China. He's a fat old bastard.

Pope Benedict XVI

I voted Musharraf, but I think if i could, i'd change my vote to Islom Karimov. That's one bastard. Also, that guy DCD mentioned is a pretty horrible lad as well.

Of the above, George W. Bush and Robert Mugabe.

Of the rest, I oppose all of them but Chávez, but for Bush and Mugabe I have a particular dislike.

At least none of the people in the poll have committed genocide, allowed slavery, and promoted mass rape. How could anyone not vote for al-Bashir?

Probably because the media don't focus enough on him, unfortunately. His lack of anti-Western rhetoric, compared to Kim, Ahmadinejad and others, makes him less 'interesting' to commercial media.

Of the above, George W. Bush and Robert Mugabe.

Of the rest, I oppose all of them but Chávez, but for Bush and Mugabe I have a particular dislike.

Why do you not oppose Chavez? He is borderline dictator. I mean, do you really hate freedom? :p

At least none of the people in the poll have committed genocide, allowed slavery, and promoted mass rape. How could anyone not vote for al-Bashir?

Possibly because Darfur hasn't been in the news this week, and the name isn't as prolific in the news as the others either...

He is borderline dictator.

No, he isn't, whatever the US media says.

Why do you not oppose Chavez? He is borderline dictator. I mean, do you really hate freedom? :p

"Borderline" would be the key word there...

No, he isn't, whatever the US media says.


and what of him silencing (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6215815.stm) opposing media outlets?

and what of him silencing (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6215815.stm) opposing media outlets?

Strange way of "opposing" they have.

Generally supporting the overthrow fo a democratically-elected leader isn't a very good idea.

Strange way of "opposing" they have.

Generally supporting the overthrow fo a democratically-elected leader isn't a very good idea.

I'm sure you'd say the same thing if Bush were to close down a media outlet.

:rolleyes:

I'm sure you'd say the same thing if Bush were to close down a media outlet.

If CNN supported a coup against Bush, and after Bush returned to power he ordered it closed, I would of course oppose the move... because I probably would have supported the coup, too.

But it wouldn't make him a dictator. Not even "borderline."

Bush. He got the U.S. into two wars at the same time, only one of which was semi-justified.

Yay! First Post!

If, shortly after the 2004 elections, a major broadcasting company had a guy that put forward the idea of forcibly removing Bush from office and it was shut down, I can guarantee that all center-left people here would cry bloody murder.

Chavez is a tyrant who wants to be president-for-life. He's already supporting a change to his constitution that would remove term limits.

Strange way of "opposing" they have.

Generally supporting the overthrow fo a democratically-elected leader isn't a very good idea.

Oh come off it. If Bush did a fraction of the bullshit things Chavez has, you'd be shitting jagged glass. Criticizing America does not make up for being an authoritarian megalomaniac.

Of the above, George W. Bush and Robert Mugabe.

Of the rest, I oppose all of them but Chávez, but for Bush and Mugabe I have a particular dislike.
Seriously? Bush's crimes don't even need to be detailed, and Mugabe talks like an African Hitler, but
At least none of the people in the poll have committed genocide, allowed slavery, and promoted mass rape. How could anyone not vote for al-Bashir?
or Kim Jong-Il for that matter? Bush and Mugabe really pale in comparison.

If, shortly after the 2004 elections, a major broadcasting company had a guy that put forward the idea of forcibly removing Bush from office and it was shut down, I can guarantee that all center-left people here would cry bloody murder.

Chavez is a tyrant who wants to be president-for-life. He's already supporting a change to his constitution that would remove term limits.

...yet keep elections. Remember, those changes might not even have been possible if the opposition parties hadn't been so clever that they had decided to boycott the election.

Bush. Followed closely by Pervez Musharraf, Mubarak, and the entire Turkish Gov.

the entire Turkish Gov.

Why?

put forward the idea of forcibly removing Bush from office

Apples and oranges.

There was an actual coup against Chávez. And an actual attempt to overthrow his government with an oil strike.

Chavez is a tyrant who wants to be president-for-life.

If the people keep electing him....

He's already supporting a change to his constitution that would remove term limits.

Yeah, so?

Oh come off it. If Bush did a fraction of the bullshit things Chavez has, you'd be shitting jagged glass.

Indeed. Because he's Bush.

Chávez is Chávez. They're different people, with different policies, trying to accomplish different things, and enduring very different political circumstances.

Bush and Mugabe really pale in comparison.

"Of the above."

They're different people, with different policies, trying to accomplish different things, and enduring very different political circumstances.

His policies are exactly the reason why you like Chavez. If he were pro-capitalist and the rebels pro-Marxist, you'd wish the coup had succeeded.

If he were pro-capitalist and the rebels pro-Marxist, you'd wish the coup had succeeded.

Not necessarily. It would depend on the level of popular support for the rebels and the leader they intended to remove.

Well, I'm bored.

I would have to say I hate Mugabe the most, due to the fact that he's been a dictator hiding under the guise of an elected leader for so long, and that he had an opposition leader beaten recently.

Poll en route.

i am no fan of gwb..for sure.

but imanutjob,putin the killer of anyone that opposes him,mugabe the thug...are not even in the same ballpark as bush...now cheney?

talk about reacting with emotion rather then reason,i am astounded that bush is the top pick...shit that twit doesnt even call the shots....the other despicable assholes on the poll do!

This is another thinly disguised bash Bush thread, but whatever...

I hate Chavez the most, followed by Putin and Ahmadinejad.

In no particular order:

George W. Bush: Dumbfuck

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: Closet Psychopath

Hugo Chavez: One of those "Haw Haw! Look at me!" kind of pricks.

Kim Jong-Ill: Do I really need to explain this?

Vlademir Putin: Really brings back the good ol' days of the Cold War, eh?

Kim Jong-Il. He and his dad are worse than Big Brother. Big Brother opposed rape.

+1 for the anti-Bush crowd. I also greatly dislike 'Lil Kim.

Vladimir Putin isn't horrible but he's becoming a real pain for the western world.

Otmar Hasler, gods damn him and all that he touches.

Hoppa;12497385']Vladimir Putin isn't horrible but he's becoming a real pain for the western world.
Isn't horrible? If a journalist criticizes him, then said journalist turns up dead within a fews days.

Your poll is sexist.

Kim Jong-Il. His cruelty, sadism, and utter disregard for human life are pretty much unrivaled anywhere in the world right now. I'd honestly say he's worse than Saddam could have ever been.

He's has a huge movie collection though! Surely he gets points for that.

I hate Hugo Chavez.

For me, it's a toss-up between Kim and Bashir.

I voted Vlad. Sure he may not be as outright evil as some of the others, but he has Russia, a country quite capable of fucking up its neighbours.

I voted Vlad. Sure he may not be as outright evil as some of the others, but he has Russia, a country quite capable of fucking up its neighbours.

And us.

And us.
While Bush is made of dumb, he doesn't hold a candle to anyone in the ebil department.

While Bush is made of dumb, he doesn't hold a candle to anyone in the ebil department.

Agreed.

Why?

The country is 99% Muslim yet the whole government surpresses Islam at ever turn. They've done things like ban political groups "too Islamic" and even banned the Hijab. Something fard for women in Islam.

he doesn't hold a candle to anyone in the ebil department.

How many people does he have to kill before he does?

The country is 99% Muslim yet the whole government surpresses Islam at ever turn.

No, they suppress attempts to Islamize politics.

How many people does he have to kill before he does?

Bush isn't evil. Remember, God Himself tells him what to do. ;)

Bush isn't evil. Remember, God Himself tells him what to do. ;)

Osama Bin Laden says the same.

And the death toll of his actions is but a fraction of Bush's.

No, they suppress attempts to Islamize politics.

And thats wrong. They deny their people from practicing their faith fully. I can not respect that.

Osama Bin Laden says the same.

And the death toll of his actions is but a fraction of Bush's.

I was joking. :p

Bush isn't evil, though. He's too stupid for it.

And thats wrong. They deny their people from practicing their faith fully. I can not respect that.

When you mix religion with politics, you get people like the Ayatollah Khomeini and George W. Bush.

Well, I'm bored.

I would have to say I hate Mugabe the most, due to the fact that he's been a dictator hiding under the guise of an elected leader for so long, and that he had an opposition leader beaten recently.

Poll en route.

That Bastard. He deserves to be shot.

Rhodesia was such a sweeter name for a country anyways.

And thats wrong. They deny their people from practicing their faith fully. I can not respect that.

Does this apply to any faith, or just to yours?

How many people does he have to kill before he does?
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Why do you not oppose Chavez? He is borderline dictator. I mean, do you really hate freedom? :pWe've living in what was a one party nation for the past 6 years...

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Then he exceeded his quota back in October '01.

We've living in what was a one party nation for the past 6 years...

Much longer than that, I'm afraid.

While Bush is made of dumb, he doesn't hold a candle to anyone in the ebil department.

Bush isdumb,but the evil in Bush comes from Cheney.Is Cheney a separate category than bush or are they in same?

But really now,the one I should hate the most is Kim,but I don't ,its bush/cheney.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is definitely up there but I'm going with Putin for this one.

I voted for "Other Guy"

Cheney.

I voted for "Other Guy"

Cheney.

yep.and what was with that hunting "accident"?dont ou wear safetey orange when you hunt?How did Cheney mistake a man wearing bright orange for a deer?

Does this apply to any faith, or just to yours?

If the country is 99% one faith, than yes they should. Such is the case in Turkey yet the Gov. acts as if its 99% non-Muslim. Thats wrong.