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Charge them both, I say. She's a bitch who tried to get out of trouble by blaming another. He has an itchy trigger finger and acts before thinking.
They're both at fault.

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/wife-charged-after-husband-shoots-lover/20070330232509990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

She should've fessed up to it and not cry "rape". She deserves the charge, but so did he because he did pull the trigger. I agree, they are both at fault.

You can just notch it up as another one of the many innocent gun victims.

You can just notch it up as another one of the many innocent gun victims.

He was the victim of two idiots whose brains reside in their groins (and, incidentally, his brain was somewhere south of his belt, too, but he didn't deserve to be shot for it). The gun was just the tool. If mush for brains hadn't had a gun, he'd have used something else.

He was the victim of two idiots whose brains reside in their groins (and, incidentally, his brain was somewhere south of his belt, too, but he didn't deserve to be shot for it). The gun was just the tool. If mush for brains hadn't had a gun, he'd have used something else.Probably. But quite a lot fewer people die when the firearm's out of the equation. I't probably the combination of humans being fairly tough to kill, and guns being extremely well designed for killing people easily and very, very quickly. It's the ideal tool for turning the emotional guy who would've settled for cracking your rips, into your executioner.

Not that I have any sort of problem with people owning guns. At least not as long as I can live sufficiently far away from the nutters. Same goes for people adding diamond cutters to their custom dual-wield chainsaws, raising nuclear armed hogs & other excessive sillyness doomed to fail.

They both fucked up. Crying rape to get out of things is just not acceptable, but neither is vigilante justice. I say charge them both, but a slap on the wrist for the guy who thought he was defending his wife.

The gun was just the tool. If mush for brains hadn't had a gun, he'd have used something else.

Yes; his fists, presumably, which would have led to a black eye rather than death.

He was the victim of two idiots whose brains reside in their groins (and, incidentally, his brain was somewhere south of his belt, too, but he didn't deserve to be shot for it). The gun was just the tool. If mush for brains hadn't had a gun, he'd have used something else.

I'd like the chances of the other guy still being alive a lot better if the first guy didn't have a gun.

Yes; his fists, presumably, which would have led to a black eye rather than death.

It's not terribly difficult to kill a man with your hands, you know. Especially when you are emotionally charged, to the point of being enraged beyond capacity to rationally think.

Honestly, if you believed your wife/girlfriend were being raped, I highly doubt you would be in a rational mindset. It wasn't merely a case of having an itchy trigger finger, he was likely not thinking rationally(Momentary insanity). And before you go all "Bah, I would have acted differently!", remember that some people whom would never lay a hand on another, pushed to a certain degree in such an intensely emotional situation, could, well, lose his mind to be blunt.

The wife, however, should be charged. Her actions led directly to his death.

Yes; his fists, presumably, which would have led to a black eye rather than death.or his car. remember he'd just arrived home. so what then... running down someone is better than shooting them?

It's not terribly difficult to kill a man with your hands, you know. Especially when you are emotionally charged, to the point of being enraged beyond capacity to rationally think.

Honestly, if you believed your wife/girlfriend were being raped, I highly doubt you would be in a rational mindset. It wasn't merely a case of having an itchy trigger finger, he was likely not thinking rationally(Momentary insanity). And before you go all "Bah, I would have acted differently!", remember that some people whom would never lay a hand on another, pushed to a certain degree in such an intensely emotional situation, could, well, lose his mind to be blunt.

The wife, however, should be charged. Her actions led directly to his death. yep. given the situation, (a woman falsely crying rape... wasn't that discounted here as never will happen in one of the Rape Debate theads? *shrugs*) the Hubby did have the excuse of Temp Insanity since he saw his wife with another man and she was crying "rape".

nope. this time, I agree with the Judge/Jury. His actions which lead to Devin LaSalle's death was a direct result of Tracy's lie.

or his car. remember he'd just arrived home. so what then... running down someone is better than shooting them?

Of course. Much easier to cover up as an accident.

Hard to blame the guy. Your wife tells you a guy was raping her, you would run the bastard down and shoot his ass. Clearly the woman is culpable in his death for her false claim. Much more than the man. The woman though should receive much more jail time than her husband, if he should even serve any.

She should've fessed up to it and not cry "rape". She deserves the charge, but so did he because he did pull the trigger. I agree, they are both at fault.

I disagree. I think if someone is raping your wife and you kill them that's certainly justifiable homicide. You have not only a right, but an obligation to defend his family.

If she said that her lover was her rapist and the guy got away, then the husband hunted him down and killed him... That's another story. That's a revenge killing, and that's murder. But he thought, based on his wife's word, that he was killing the guy while he was raping his wife.

They both fucked up. Crying rape to get out of things is just not acceptable, but neither is vigilante justice...

"Hello police? There's a man here raping my wife.
Well, it's hard to tell. He's lying down. On top of my wife. But I'd say he's about 5'9".
Oh, about hundred eighty pounds, mid thirties African American male.
Sorry, he says he's 195 lbs and only 28 years old.
Well, not on his back. Let me see. Ah, yes. A tattoo of a tribal symbol on his chest.
OK. Thank you.
Honey, they'll be here in about 20 minutes to stop him raping you. I guess you're busy, should I start dinner?"

Charge them both, I say. She's a bitch who tried to get out of trouble by blaming another. He has an itchy trigger finger and acts before thinking.
They're both at fault.

Yup. Both.

"Hello police? There's a man here raping my wife.
Well, it's hard to tell. He's lying down. On top of my wife. But I'd say he's about 5'9".
Oh, about hundred eighty pounds, mid thirties African American male.
Sorry, he says he's 195 lbs and only 28 years old.
Well, not on his back. Let me see. Ah, yes. A tattoo of a tribal symbol on his chest.
OK. Thank you.
Honey, they'll be here in about 20 minutes to stop him raping you. I guess you're busy, should I start dinner?"

[joke time]
three men were talking about the definition of Cold blooded.

one man: if a man comes home, finds his wife in bed with her lover, and he just turns around and walks out. That's cold blooded.

Second Man: no... if a man comes home and catches his wife having sex with her lover and he says "don't mind me, please continue." that's cold blooded.

The third man says: The definition of Cold blooded is if a man comes home and catches his wife having sex with her lover and he says "don't mind me, please continue." and the other man DOES. that's cold blooded.

I disagree. I think if someone is raping your wife and you kill them that's certainly justifiable homicide. You have not only a right, but an obligation to defend his family.

If she said that her lover was her rapist and the guy got away, then the husband hunted him down and killed him... That's another story. That's a revenge killing, and that's murder. But he thought, based on his wife's word, that he was killing the guy while he was raping his wife.

That depends:
When Tracy Roberson cried that she was being raped, LaSalle tried to drive away and her husband drew the gun he happened to be carrying and fired several shots at the truck, authorities said.

Now, if she was still in the truck it stands to reason that the husband thought his wife was being abducted by a rapist. His shooting was justified in this case IMO.

If she wasn't he was in essence shooting a fleeing man in the back.

If one reasonably believes his wife is being raped I think lethal force is appropriate. I do not think he acted inappropriately.