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Question about the US flag

Global Avthority
31-03-2007, 01:51
Why is it red, white and blue? Why are these colours also shared by the UK, France, Russia and a number of other countries?
Novus-America
31-03-2007, 01:56
Red for the blood that was shed, white for the bandages, and blue to represent the sky. The design (colors aside) can be debated till doomsday. Some say it was influenced by the flag of the Dutch East Indies Company.
Todsboro
31-03-2007, 01:57
Why do I have the feeling that you have a history report due?

The colors have no meaning when it comes to the flag. The colors come from the Seal of the United States; those colors were, in fact, chosen for a reason.

That's all the homework that I'm going to do for you. :p
Celtlund
31-03-2007, 01:58
Why do I have the feeling that you have a history report due?

The colors have no meaning when it comes to the flag. The colors come from the Seal of the United States; those colors were, in fact, chosen for a reason.

That's all the homework that I'm going to do for you. :p

You mean they still teach histor in school? :eek: From some of the threads on NS you'd never guess that. :(
Johnny B Goode
31-03-2007, 02:01
You mean they still teach histor in school? :eek: From some of the threads on NS you'd never guess that. :(

I have a pretty tough US History class.
Marrakech II
31-03-2007, 02:04
Someone actually asked me when the war of 1812 started. I thought it was a joke but the guy was damn serious. I wondered if crying would have been appropriate in that instance. :(

A swift kick in the ass may have been.
Utracia
31-03-2007, 02:05
You mean they still teach histor in school? :eek: From some of the threads on NS you'd never guess that. :(

Someone actually asked me when the war of 1812 started. I thought it was a joke but the guy was damn serious. I wondered if crying would have been appropriate in that instance. :(
Global Avthority
31-03-2007, 02:06
Why do I have the feeling that you have a history report due?

The colors have no meaning when it comes to the flag. The colors come from the Seal of the United States; those colors were, in fact, chosen for a reason.

That's all the homework that I'm going to do for you. :p
I have no need to know this. I'm not American. I was just wondering why its flag shared the colours of most other imperialist nations.
Celtlund
31-03-2007, 02:07
I have a pretty tough US History class.

Middle school history isn't tough. Just wait till you get to be a college junior. :eek:
Todsboro
31-03-2007, 02:08
I have no need to know this. I'm not American. I was just wondering why its flag shared the colours of most other imperialist nations.

Oh, well, in that case, the answer is quite simple.

You can get those colors in bulk at 'Empires R Us'. That's how we all ended up with the same color scheme.
The Infinite Dunes
31-03-2007, 02:14
I can't find out why the French and the British flags use red, blue and white. I know the Union Jack is red, blue and white due to its constituient flags, but why do those flags use they colours they use?
Darknovae
31-03-2007, 02:16
I have no need to know this. I'm not American. I was just wondering why its flag shared the colours of most other imperialist nations.

Because it was t3h s3xii back then, that's why.

Actuallly there's a bunch of symbolism to it, that is probably shared by all the other imperialist nations.

Which may bring me back to my original statement.

Dude, I wonder if someday people would get sick of putting red, white and blue on their flags and start making them pink and yellow or something...
Forsakia
31-03-2007, 02:19
I can't find out why the French and the British flags use red, blue and white. I know the Union Jack is red, blue and white due to its constituient flags, but why do those flags use they colours they use?

Primary colours that were easier to get hold of?
Bodies Without Organs
31-03-2007, 02:25
Someone actually asked me when the war of 1812 started.

How long did the Hundred Years War last?
Where was the battle of Hastings fought?
Why is the battle of the Boyne remembered on the 12th of July?
Todsboro
31-03-2007, 02:31
How long did the Hundred Years War last?

Damned Trick Questions. It lasted 116 years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years'_War).
Bodies Without Organs
31-03-2007, 02:33
Damned Trick Questions. It lasted 116 years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years'_War).

Aye, and what about the other two?

Some questions are only apparently stupid.
Global Avthority
31-03-2007, 02:38
I can't find out why the French and the British flags use red, blue and white.
The French colours stand for liberty, equality and fraternity. In that order.
Celtlund
31-03-2007, 02:38
Some questions are only apparently stupid.

As in, "Where did the Battle of Bunker Hill take place during the revolutionay war?"
Todsboro
31-03-2007, 02:43
Aye, and what about the other two?

Some questions are only apparently stupid.


Sorry, but I'm not aware of any other two. I am aware that it wasn't 'one' war; what other 'Hundred Year's Wars' are there?
Bodies Without Organs
31-03-2007, 02:44
Sorry, but I'm not aware of any other two. I am aware that it wasn't 'one' war; what other 'Hundred Year's Wars' are there?

Other two questions, not 'other two Hundred Years Wars'.
Bodies Without Organs
31-03-2007, 02:45
As in, "Where did the Battle of Bunker Hill take place during the revolutionay war?"

Where did Woodstock happen?
Sel Appa
31-03-2007, 02:49
According to the book, "Our Flag" published by the House of Representatives, "The colors red, white, and blue did not have meanings for The Stars and Stripes when it was adopted in 1777." It goes on to say, on page 41 (page 47 of the PDF version)[9] that the colors of the Great Seal of the United States, when it was adopted in 1782, were defined thus: "White signifies Purity and Innocence; Red, Hardiness and Valor; Blue signifies Vigilance, Perseverance and Justice."

I'd say it was based on the UK flag since they had started with a striped falg with a union jack in the union...

ONE TO GO!
Todsboro
31-03-2007, 02:50
Other two questions, not 'other two Hundred Years Wars'.


Ah...I see. I was misunderstanding.

Well, the battle of Hastings wasn't quite in Hastings either. I admittedly know little or nothing about Boyne.
Todsboro
31-03-2007, 02:51
Where did Woodstock happen?

Heh. On a Farm. I got that one.
The Infinite Dunes
31-03-2007, 02:59
The French colours stand for liberty, equality and fraternity. In that order.I think that tie was added later. Someone realised that the phrase 'Liberté, égalité, fraternité', and that there were three colours on the French flag and connected the dots. I seem to be reading something about the blue and the red being the colours of Paris and the white representing the Monarchy. This was back in the days before the loped off Louis' head, and thought that monarchy could be framed and held in check by parliamentarian government ie. Paris.

In some places I read that one blue stands for the aristocracy and red for the citizens of France and together they keep the monarchy in check.

Meh.
Bodies Without Organs
31-03-2007, 03:01
Ah...I see. I was misunderstanding.

Well, the battle of Hastings wasn't quite in Hastings either. I admittedly know little or nothing about Boyne.

Ah. The Battle of the Boyne is remembered on the 12th of July because it was fought on the 1st of July.
Todsboro
31-03-2007, 03:04
Ah. The Battle of the Boyne is remembered on the 12th of July because it was fought on the 1st of July.

Yeah, I just read about it. I'm rather surprised that I didn't recall anything, given how "Orange" my Irish grandmother was.

Damn Gregorian Calender. :p
Nadkor
31-03-2007, 04:52
How long did the Hundred Years War last?

116 years

Where was the battle of Hastings fought?

Battle

Why is the battle of the Boyne remembered on the 12th of July?

Because people are fools; the 12th originally commemorated the Battle of Aughrim (12/07/1691).

Also because under the new calendar the Boyne occurred on 12/07/1690.

I prefer the "people are fools" reason.
Novus-America
31-03-2007, 05:00
As in, "Where did the Battle of Bunker Hill take place during the revolutionay war?"

Breed's Hill
Slaughterhouse five
31-03-2007, 05:32
look at the washington coat of arms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_George_Washington). (george washington was the first US president for those of you that skipped us history 101)

there is alot of symbolism in the US flag. and what it is a display of how much symbolic reference can we cram onto a piece of fabric and make it look good.
Johnny B Goode
31-03-2007, 15:13
Middle school history isn't tough. Just wait till you get to be a college junior. :eek:

Relatively speaking, of course.
Katganistan
31-03-2007, 15:24
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States
Aliquantus
31-03-2007, 15:35
Some say it was influenced by the flag of the Dutch East Indies Company.
You mean the British East India Company? The British East India Company was founded in 1600, the Dutch East India Company was founded in 1602.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Flag_of_the_British_East_India_Company_%281801%29.svg/800px-Flag_of_the_British_East_India_Company_%281801%29.svg.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Flag_of_the_British_East_India_Company_%281801%29.svg/800px-Flag_of_the_British_East_India_Company_%281801%29.svg.png
Bodies Without Organs
01-04-2007, 04:41
I prefer the "people are fools" reason.

Ah, yes, but that is what makes us people so interesting.